IHJZ/ Real Housewives of Orange County / Watch What Happens Live / The Celebrity Apprentice Finale / Mob Wives

Thanks to Boston02127 for the great photo!  Love it!What a big night on television.  The Celebrity Apprentice Finale was long and parts were rather boring but I was happy with the winner which I will let Quincy announce in her blog.

The Real Housewives of Orange County is winding down and I’m pretty happy about that, we heard that the reunion was 10-hours of filming and that all the ladies cried at one point but there is a whole lot of vicious feelings of hatred between these women.

I find it hard to believe that Peggy and Alexis were ever real friends.  Another example of how a reality show ruins a relationship I suppose but I don’t think Alexis lost out on anything here, Peggy is a straight up bitch!  I haven’t liked Peggy from the beginning and she’s only gotten worse.  The woman can’t go 5-minutes without talking about Alexis.

Peggy came onto the show with an agenda and it was to jump on what she thought was the “I hate Alexis” bandwagon, like Jill Zarin Peggy had a plan.  Peggy read all of the negative things posted on the internet and believed that viewers hated Alexis.  Peggy believed that if she fanned the flames and took up against Alexis, she would become popular.  Just like most of Jill’s plans, Peggy’s plan backfired in her face too!  Peggy is coming off as jealous and a complete idiot.  She spends her husband’s birthday dinner talking about Alexis and Jim Bellino. Peggy and Tamra were rude and overly critical of Alexis’ fashion show.

Peggy’s breasts are so huge they’re ugly and vulgar and maybe Tamra’s “cooch” falls out of her outfits but this is what is in style now and this is what thousands of women wear Tamra, maybe she forgot we’ve seen more than we’d like to of Tamra Barney. Peggy shared with us tonight her portfolio that was either her new modeling stills or a gift for her husband, again, more of Peggy than I’d ever want to see.  She has no business criticizing anyone else.

It amazes me how really sheltered and behind the times the Orange County Housewives are, they have no clue about fine dining and obviously don’t know anything about the latest fashion trends.  If the Orange County Housewives show survives another season let’s hope Bravo has the sense to lose this cast and start over.

Alexis planned and pulled off a fashion show and honestly, I liked the clothes.  I don’t think they were anything over the top special but they were cute for the most part.  That said, I think she’s kidding herself that people will buy her clothing.  She didn’t show us anything original or anything we haven’t seen before.

Watching Alexis discuss the menu for her luncheon was embarrassing, just like Peggy a few weeks before, these ladies have no idea how to choose a menu and how to refrain from insulting a chef.  Another example of how sheltered and just plain stupid they both are.

When Vicki fails to show up at the fashion show Alexis is insulted and Gretchen tells us that she’s not surprised that Vicki wouldn’t show up since she was probably working.  I think that Gretchen would have been better to just keep her mouth shut and she did come off as pretty cold and unfeeling. Gretchen had the benefit of being allowed to explain her behavior later on Watch What Happens Live.  Gretchen explained that Vicki had this issue (reported bleeding from her anus) a few months prior and did nothing about it.  The day of Alexis’ fashion show is the day Vicki decides to have her problem checked out, it is questionable. Tamra gets the text message from Vicki telling her she’s in the hospital and the following chain of events lead me to believe that it wasn’t as serious as Tamra made it out to be.

First of all Tamra stayed at the party, she continued to drink and eat while texting with Vicki.  The fact that Vicki was texting was pretty telling as well, who does that?  If Vicki didn’t have a family member with her, she would have text to her family members and if her family was already with her, wouldn’t she have them call or text Tamra?  I think the final straw was the photo that Vicki texted to Tamra of her IV, who does that?  Was she trying to prove that she was really in the hospital?  If her condition was serious why would she feel the need to prove anything?

Tamra mentioned “surgery” but in fact Vicki had a “procedure” where they stuck a tube up her butt to find the bleeding and took care of it.

I still think that Gretchen should have kept quiet because now she  looks like the bad guy but I’m going to join her, I think Gretchen was right.  Vicki was creating more drama than necessary and Tamra’s stone faces that she made just added to the unnecessary drama of it all.   In the end Vicki was just fine.

Vicki has become quite a good actress over the past six-years of The Real Housewives of Orange County.  Her speech to Tamra about her marriage was a great acting job but I think that she is the source of the majority of the tension between her and Donn.  She has been brutal to him over the years, we’ve seen it so many times and if she does it on screen, just imagine what she does while the camera’s aren’t rolling.I think that Vicki is cold to Donn and I believe that her blaming Donn for lack of affection is unfair, why would he want to be affectionate with a cold bitch like her who puts him down all the time?  Vicki revealing that it had been two years since they had sex contradicts her comments about their trip to Turks and Caicos where she claimed to have good sex with her husband while there for their vow renewal ceremony.  That was just one year ago.

I hope that Donn finds a wonderful woman who treats him well and shows him respect. I think the least couples should expect from their spouses is to be respectful especially in public and in particular for the Gunvalson’s in front of the cameras.

Gretchen and Slade’s conversation was a bit surprising, I am glad that Gretchen feels comfortable enough to discuss their very sensitive problems and on television no less.  Slade wasn’t shocked by anything Gretchen said about their future being questionable due to his child support issues.  Gretchen is smart about this, she didn’t jump into a marriage and have children right away just because she happens to love Slade, as she said, that may not be enough.

Slade has a very large balance due on his child support and his side of the story is that the monthly amount that he was supposed to pay was set by the courts when he was making a whole lot of money.  Now that he’s lost his high paying job and seems to be refusing to get any job the debt is piling up very quickly.  Personally, I believe that this is the reason why Slade refuses to get a job, if he does he knows that his paycheck will be immediately pegged and they will begin to deduct a large chunk of his pay to go toward his debt.

Slade’s industry is the mortgage/title industry for home purchases and it hasn’t died, in fact with so many people restructuring their loans and refinancing homes, I would bet Slade could find a job fairly easily.  If he is going to try to insist on making the same amount of money that he used to make, therein lies the problem.  Slade makes the excuse that he can’t find a job but I don’t think he’s actively looking, he doesn’t want to work and he doesn’t want his pay to be garnished.

Like many men who have lost their jobs or have had to take lower paying jobs, Slade needs to go back into court and ask the judge to modify his child support amount but you can’t go to the judge and ask that you pay absolutely nothing because you have no job at all.  Get a job Slade!  If he really wants to marry Gretchen he should do things right.  Instead reports are that Slade has moved out of Gretchen’s home.  Watch What Happens…

Watch What Happens Live was extremely dull.  Once Gretchen explained her behavior on the show it made more sense.   Gretchen told us about Vicki’s problem a few months back and she told us about all the text photos of the IV in Vicki’s arm.

It was a bit confusing when they discussed why Gretchen couldn’t sing her song because she didn’t have the rights to it.  Maybe we’ll get better clarification on that later. Gretchen seemed to want to tell one story and Andy another.

Kara clearly doesn’t watch the Housewives and whenever they have a guest who doesn’t watch the shows it is a bit awkward.  Andy knows that viewers want to hear them talk about Housewives and Kara acted like she was above watching the drama. I wasn’t a fan of Kara’s on American Idol and maybe that wasn’t her fault.  She was brought in as the fourth judge which I think most people agreed was one too many.  American Idol knew that Paula’s time on the show was questionable and they wanted to introduce a new judge in anticipation of Paula’s departure.  It simply didn’t work.

Kara is a talented songwriter and some people should just remain behind the scenes, in my opinion.

Celebrity Apprentice Finale 2011 by Quincy IL

The 2011 Celebrity Apprentice competition raised over $3,000,000 for the charities of the 16 celebrity apprentice contestants.

Marlee Matlin and John Rich met as project managers once again to design two campaigns for a new product with an old twist called, “Retro 7 up.”  Marlee was to design a can, create a commercial starring Jeffrey Holder, and have a life performance with the Harlem Globetrotters for a 1970s theme.  John was to design a can, create a commercial starring Twisted Sister and have a life performance with Def Leppard  for a 1980s theme.

Last week Meat Loaf of Marlee’s team was on the phone dealing with Jeffrey Holder’s lawyers and the standard release forms for Celebrity Apprentice. He was screaming and going to throw his phone.  John Rich was fighting with the manager of Def Leppard over the use of a kick drum.  Both teams eventually worked out their issues in time for the performances.

We watch a photo shoot of John Rich holding his guitar. Lil John is there trying to help John succeed and relax a little.

Jeffrey Holder arrives in the white suit and white hat that he wore for the commercials in the 1970’s. He does his work perfectly and sounds just like he did in the 1970s.  Twisted Sister also performs in the commercial.  This was filmed and shown to us last week.

We watch the celebrities that have been fired arrive for the live performance as the show goes back and forth with the preparation of the commercials and the events featuring the Harlem Globetrotters and Def Leppard.

Mr. Trump talks to the fired celebrities and asks their opinions of their experience with the competition.  Nene Leakes was there also.  Earlier she had walked off the show and was fired as she drove away in a cab. David Cassidy is asked about Richard Hatch who was in jail at the time of filming for not paying taxes.  David feels vindication as he felt Richard took the low road and belonged on a cold slab.  David said that Mr. Trump did the right thing when David was the first to be fired.

Lisa Rinna blamed Star Jones for her firing and she would not respond to a question about that person (Star Jones.)   Gary Bussey ramble and Mr. Trump called him “a piece of work.”  Meat Loaf got emotional, but he is friends with John Rich.  Lil John enjoyed working with good people, but he would never do this again.

We return to watch the teams plan the events with balloons, tables and signs. Star organizes her event and tells us that she has had parties for over 300 in her home and she had a wedding that we might have heard about.  The wedding was more successful than the marriage.

Friends of John Rich bring him large checks made out to St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital. His total was $300,000 so he collected over $1,000,000 for his kids.

Marlee kicks in and begins to prepare for the arrival and show by the Harlem Globetrotters. Everything is falling into place and the team feels great about their event. Mr. Trump had his grandchildren in the stands for a performance by the Harlem Globetrotters.  He loved being greeted by Marlee and felt the event was great.

John showed his video, but introduced Def Leppard when they had not arrived.  He performed and talked to the audience to fill in the time, but this was an error.  No one greeted Mr. Trump or the executives from 7 up which was another error. Def Leppard performed well and the audience had a great time listening to their songs.  This band had has sold 65,000,000 cds/records.

The executives from 7 up loved the commercials and would hire both Marlee and John.

Men's Project Manager

We return to the fired celebrities to discuss Nene Leakes and see video of her comments on the other stars especially, Star Jones. Nene stands by her statements and has no regrets.  Star Jones notes that Nene attacked every Black woman on the show. Nene warns her to not make this racial.  La Toya agrees with Nene that Star was manipulative. Mr. Trump says that someday Nene and Star with be friends and have lunch, but Star says, “When pigs fly.”

In the board room, they discuss the accomplishments of Marlee and John Rich. Marlee has faced adversity throughout her life and people have told her that she would fail.  She rejected that then and she will never give up. She thanks he husband and four children for letting her have this opportunity.

John Rich explains that he raised an additional $300,000 dollars.  Marlee is upset because she would have raised money too if she had known that was allowed.

We see videos of Marlee with kids receiving hearing aids in Africa and hearing sounds for the first time in their lives. We also go with John to St. Jude and see children with deadly diseases smiling and having a chance at life because of this hospital and the donations that it receives.

John Rich performs a song called, “For the Children,” while Marlee signs.  Then children from the New York School of the Deaf also sign with the music.  In the end, there is silence as the entire audience waves both of their hands.

Finally, Mr. Trump says there is no loser.  Mr. Trump tells John Rich that he is the winner of Celebrity Apprentice 2011.  They drop confetti and the entire audience cheers.

The End.  Mr. Trump has announced that there will be another season.


Mob Wives by Quincy IL

Scenes of Staten Island are shown to us in the opening credits as we watch the day go into night and we see the moon in a black sky. Drita Davanzo arrives at the home of Carla Facciolo to discuss her verbal war with Karen Gavano over Lee, Drita’s husband and Karen’s boyfriend of 7 years. Drita does not like Karen bashing Lee in Lee’s home where Lee’s daughters may hear her comments. Carla agrees that the issue of Lee dating Drita shortly after he broke up with Karen is ancient history and is unworthy of discussion. Drita states that her friendship with Karen can never be as it once was.

Karen goes to Renee Graziano’s home for dinner and a discussion of the Lee issue between Karen and Drita.   Renee admonished Karen for failing to demand an apology. Karen states that she failed to get her point across.  Karen asks, “Do I trust Drita? No.” Karen does not believe that Drita will apologize and reestablish a friendship.

Drita is home and she receives a phone call from a federal prison. It is Lee her husband.  Drita and Lee are playful on the phone as she tells him that she is going to tattoo herself with the symbol of the eveil eye. Lee suggests placing it on the back of her neck so it can watch over her because he is in prison.  Lee liked the pictures of the house and the girls, but wants photos of Drita.  Drita asks, “Who will take my picture?”  Lee wants her to wear red lingerie.  Drita is worried that the guards will look and send them back to her as it happened once. Lee said to cover up certain parts.  She will have photos taken in a swim suit.

Carla and Renee meet the next morning in a coffee and pastry shop.  Carla tells Renee that Karen doesn’t like Lee.  Renee says that she doesn’t like Lee.  Carla shares that Karen insulted Drita in her home about her relationship.  Renee doesn’t like what Carla says and she brings up Carla’s boyfriend who they discussed before. Carla states that she has a great relationship with her boyfriend and the best comment that Renee can make is no comment.  Renee plans to have a Sunday night dinner part to get it all out on the table. In an interview Renee asks herself, “Is this a good idea?” Then she answers, “I doubt it.”

Nikole, a connected friend of Renee arrives to discuss a business plan that Renee has decided to try after thinking about it for 26 years. Renee was always a letter writer and she has between 5,000 and 6,000 letters to friends and family that she calls, “Jail Mail.”  She wants to use INC, but instead of “Incorporated,” she means “Incarcerated.” Renee think that non- writers like Nikole will sign up so cards will be sent to their loved ones in prison on special occasions.

Renee decided to do this now because Junior her ex-husband is going back to jail. He was arrested while on parole for gambling.

Drita’s bedroom is covered with designer clothes and shoes as she decided what to take to her photo shoot.  Her little girl is there and she tries on sparkly/expensive pants and $900 shoes.  Her daughter says Drita has a lot of clothes and Drita says that Lee buys them because he feels guilty that he is in prison. Giselle, the three year old, does not know her father.

Renee invites Drita for Sunday dinner during a phone call. Renee does not share that Karen is coming. Drita asks if children are invited. They are not.

Carla and Karen speak in interviews and both state that Renee should not get involved in other people’s business.

Renee goes to two web designers and requests a web site called, “Jail Mail, INC.”  She wants it to be black and white and to have jail doors that open. You enter and see the heads of prisoners waiting for mail. The designers are enthusiastic.

Drita goes to a photo session to make sexy photos. She gets hair and makeup done.  She wears a black dress, sits in a red chair, sits on a staircase, and poses in a fur coat while wearing a white bikini.  Drita feels good about having photos taken because Lee will love the photos.   The photographer compliments Drita and says she could be a model.

Renee tells Nikole about a text message from Carla’s boyfriend threatening her.  He said that Renee should not talk about him.

Drita suspects that Karen is coming to the dinner and she says that Karen better not talk about Lee.

Drita and Carla arrive for Sunday dinner. Drita shows a huge evil eye tattoo on the back of her neck under her hair and Renee touches it. Drita does not flinch although she just got the tattoo. Drita is smoking a cigarette in Renee’s dining room when she asks who the extra table setting is for.  Renee says it is a surprise.

Renee, Carla and Drita sit at the table and quickly Renee brings up Carla’s boyfriend.  Karen is on the street and hears women screaming as she approaches the house. Karen takes her place at the table as the fight between Renee and Carla explodes.  Karen said that he touched her rear and she did not like it or consider it respectful.  Carla said he is playful when drunk and as long as he does it in front of her it is OK.  Renee says that is it disrespectful and they argue.  Carla claims that Renee is jealous and all hell breaks loose.  Carla’s boyfriend is called a “groper.”

Carla says that Renee is jealous so Renee gets up and goes to Carla who also gets up. They attack each other and end up on the floor.  At times, the group of 4 women moves so quickly that we see the cameramen who are filming the conflict.  The women fling themselves and obscenities at each other. Drita seems calm, but she is upset and wants to fight. She takes her shoes off.  Drita says she would like to punch the screaming out of everyone.

Next week: Cage fight

Jill Zarin met Drita Davanzo and later tweeter Drita asking her to lunch.

“Can you say “The Real Mob Wives of New York City?”

We cover a lot of reality series on this blog and sometimes I forget that these multiple “realities” can overlap! Such was the case in New York City last night when break out Mob Wives star Drita D’Avanzo showed up for the amNew York party celebrating the addition of RHONYC‘s Kelly Killoren Bensimon and photographer Patrick McMullan to their staff.

Drita appeared to be a bit of a good sport as she posed with Kelly’s cast mate Jill Zarin, who seemed to think it was funny to aim a finger gun at her.”


Drita has stated that the feds took everything when Lee, her husband was arrested and she has lived in 11 houses since she was married.  She does not appear to have a job. Lee, Drita’s husband known for violence,  is in prison.  She has no relationship with her parents, but her mother does babysit for her. She goes out to clubs at night and wears $900 shoes and wears fur coats.  After much discussion, commenters on the board could not understand where the money for Drita’s lifestyle is coming from.  Lee is in prison for bank robbery. Perhaps, Jill Zarin will ask Drita this question when they lunch soon.

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560 Responses to IHJZ/ Real Housewives of Orange County / Watch What Happens Live / The Celebrity Apprentice Finale / Mob Wives

  1. boston02127 says:

    Great recaps. Thx Quincy. I watched Mob Wives last night but not C.A. I think there’s something very wrong with Renee. She’s such an angry person. Isn’t her ex-husband remarried?

    • kotagirl29 says:

      I don’t watch CA, but I am really into Mob Wives. I would think Shill would be terrified of all the ladies on Mob Wives. After last night’s episode it is pretty clear none of them are afraid to spit venom in each other’s faces and then get physical immediately after. LuMann should run for the hills when it comes to those women.

    • HD says:

      How funny that Alexis is on that list when she just released her “line.” LOL!

    • NMhousewife says:

      I agree with their worst dressed, but if you go to the link for best dressed both Luann and Kelly made it on that list….surprising.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        they must have paid for it cause LULU cant dress to save her life she is so tacky looking

  2. HD says:

    Thanks for the recap, Q. I missed both shows. Is it just me or does Jill always have to insert herself into the lives of other reality women? Sit down somewhere!

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      Hi Hannah~
      Good morning all~
      Those poor people who just got hit with storms..so sorry.
      Hope everyone here is safe today.

      • boston02127 says:

        @BaaBee Loves Kitties–I’m watching the news and they’re showing the tornado damage in Joplin, Missouri. It’s
        devastating, God Bless them.

        • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

          I know boston~have been watching since 5 am. I feel the same way. How are you doing?

        • Kansas Girl says:

          I’ve been following on Facebook. Joplin Tornado Info is run by some people from Tuscaloosa (sp?). They are 4 weeks into dealing with this kind of devastation and are doing a good job coordinating info and fielding requests. Local people are also involved. Lots of interesting and useful links.

      • Christine says:

        The weather in this country this year tears your heart out. These poor people have lost everything. Somehow designer dresses, shoes and purses are just plain stupid when some of these folks are grateful just to find a photo album and to have each other.

    • quincyil says:

      A long time ago, the board discusssed Kelly and celebrities. The concensus was that Kelly is a name dropper and that raises her standing in the community of celebrities. I think Jill does the same. She collects names and uses them for increasing her own standing.

      I guess Jill doesn’t fear making fun of Drita as Bobby provides security for Jill. Of course, Lee knows people who knows people and he might not like that photo of Jill holding up a pretend gun to Drita.

      • HD says:

        Good morning, Everyone!

        I heard/saw the devastation in Missouri. It looks like giants just came through and walked all over the city. I cannot believe it. Mother Nature truly is a force of her own. My heart goes out to the families that have lost loved ones. This weather has been like something I have never witnessed before.

        • quincyil says:

          We were on the edge of that storm and after it passed we had an all yellow sky. We went outside and kept wondering why the entire sky was bright yellow.

          • Christine says:

            quincy, luckily I have never experienced a tornado (so far, knock on wood), but according to the folks at the Weather Channel, the sky looks greenish-yellow when one is imminent.

            • kbinldo says:

              also greenish-purple. I’ve seen that before.

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              they are getting them in places they never have before
              like downtown philly a few weeks ago at LUNCH HOUR no less
              i didnt hear too much about that one

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Q, Being a name dropper really raises standing in the community of celebrities? I thought that name dropping was frowned upon. I just watched Adam Levine tease Celo about name dropping on the Voice. Also, why would any real celebrity want to be associated with these women?

  3. LynnNChicago says:

    The blog has been updated with RHOOC and WWHL…thanks Quincy for the great blogs on Celebrity Apprentice and Mob Wives.

    I was really happy that John Rich won CA! I think he really deserved it, he worked hard and remained focused throughout the season. After learning more about Marlee Matlin’s charity I still feel that St. Jude’s Children’s Hospital was more deserving of the money. I appreciate what Marlee is doing but saving children’s lives has to “Trump” helping people to hear, but Marlee did great sending over a million dollars to her charity as well.

    I have to catch up on Mob Wives, thank goodness for Video on Demand! 🙂
    Have a great day everyone!

    • TEB2350 says:

      I think Marlee did a better job on the last task, but I’m kinda happy the $250,000 winnings will stay in the United States and go to St. Judes. I think Marlee’s charity is good- don’t get me wrong.
      She probably should have won b/c she did a better job but I’m OK with John Rich winning.

      • JKW says:

        If they went on their performance of the last 7-up task then Marlee should have won. John Rich screwed up with Def Leopard and Marlees event was perfect. I really liked John Rich and his charity but that really wasn’t fair. Trump even said it wasn’t about donations. He is so inconsistent in his actions that the show is a joke. Whether John Richs charity was better or not…Marlee performed the task with no problems. He might as well just choose the best charity at the beginning of the show and award them the money.

        • Cynth says:

          I don’t think it was just the charity. Although John Rich messed up, he picked up and handled it himself. I thought he won the overall task. Both the can & the commercial were miles better than Marlees. The only thing sticking out for her was that her event went smoothly. But that just isn’t enough for me. Also, I think Mark Mcgrath said it best that Marlee had a good week (when she raised the mil) but John Rich has had a good season. I do think he deserved the win, hands down.

          • JKW says:

            If they were doing it money wise then John Rich should have won. Why even do the event at the end ? I liked Marlees commercial…esp using Jeffrey Holder. I remember him in the commercials. They could have called the winner and skipped the last hour. Who cares about Nene and Star getting together for lunch.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      i have no idea who he is but i agree st judes was the better charity

  4. Kukulet says:

    The only question I would have for the OC reunion is: what exactly is it that Vicki does that requires her to be in the office until midnight and beyond every night? I mean, c’mon. She sells insurance. It’s not like she is cold calling people or babysitting clients at midnight-and she can’t possibly have that much paperwork every day. I admire a good work ethic, but this woman needs to shut her yap and stop insinuating that she works so much harder than anyone else on the planet.

    I wish Donn Gunvalson all the best-and I hope he hooks up with Jeana Keough. 😉


    Alexis…holy oy.

    Slade…get a job and ask for reduction in your child support. See, this is the kind of guy that personifies “deadbeat dad”. It doesn’t matter what kind of job you WANT, Slade. You have kids to support. Suck it up and sling some hash if you have to. And please please please disappear from our televisions.

    • HD says:

      That’s what I don’t get about Slade. A judge will of course reduce his child support if he had a regular 9-5 job. You can only give what you can give. By sitting at home doing nothing he is just making it worse.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        HD, ITA.

        I agree with what Lynn said above: “Personally, I believe that this is the reason why Slade refuses to get a job, if he does he knows that his paycheck will be immediately pegged and they will begin to deduct a large chunk of his pay to go toward his debt.”

        BUT he has to start paying toward the debt some time. It is never going to go away. So why not start paying NOW? Especially since Gretchen appears to be paying his basic living expenses. What a dumb a**!

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        well he does have that consulting job but he said on teh show some of the clients are leaving

    • Maryla says:

      Slade should do just that. Sling hash. I think seeing him with some kind of a job — any kind of a job — would help him to rehabilitate his image in the eyes of viewers, Gretchen and maybe even his mother, who clearly recognized that he was just a lazy mooch. If he gets a regular job, he may have his wages garnished, but he’s living for free off of Gretchen now. At least a job would allow him to put SOME money towards his debt. But like all of these low-lifes, they just give up and amass as much debt as humanly possible and then shoot for a write-off like the Giudices. I guess they figure, I’m under water to the tune of $140K. Might as well make it several million.

      Sure, some people hit a bump in the road, or live on the margins, but the way they manage to amass significant debt is sickening to people who work hard and live paycheck-to-paycheck, going without health insurance and vacations and meals just to keep their head above water. Is it that hard to just live within your means?

      • Kukulet says:

        I agree with you…and it’s just sickening, especially in Slade’s case.

        I’ve got kids. I WANT to support them. Even when times are tough, my first priority is keeping my kids sheltered, clothed, and fed, and I’ll willingly do whatever it takes to accomplish that.

        Slade, on the other hand, has been repeatedly ordered to support his kids. This wasn’t just a basic court order to establish child support fees. He welched and welched again. To top that off, he doesn’t seem to have any desire to ensure that his children are provided for, much less that his younger son gets desperately needed medical care.

        It’s despicable.

    • kotagirl29 says:

      Vicki said last night that she’s stays at work so late to avoid Donn.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      “what exactly is it that Vicki does that requires her to be in the office until midnight and beyond every night? ”
      well besides avoiding her hubby im guessing this si when she sleeps with the younger men in her employ

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      “Slade…get a job and ask for reduction in your child support. See, this is the kind of guy that personifies “deadbeat dad”. It doesn’t matter what kind of job you WANT, Slade. You have kids to support. Suck it up and sling some hash if you have to. And please please please disappear from our televisions.”

      i just have toask this and please dont take offense but when exactly is the last time you tried to find a job
      because as of right now its rough out there
      and im not just talking about a nice pay regualar 09-5 job i mean any job at all
      I have friends who have worked for corps for over 20 years that got layed off just so they couldnt get thier pensions and try to find something else and couldnt even get hired at Mickey d’s
      it really is that bad out there

      i really feel for all teh kids just getting outta school who have to face this now

  5. Suzieq says:

    I knew it!! I almost posted last night but was too lazy to type it in. I knew I would wake up this morning and read this blog and see a positive spin on Gretchen!! Lol (I do understand it’s ur blog and ur opinion though). 🙂
    I just disagree. I think Gretchen can do no wrong in ur eyes.
    I have had problems with kidney stones my entire life. About every 2-3 months the awful pain would hit me and I would try hard to just try to get through the pain without having to go to the ER. A lot of times I could do it….and then I could go another month or 2….but then it would come back and I would be in so much pain that I would finally go to ER. And my body did not decide to start having pain around my schedule. It didn’t check my calendar and make sure I didn’t have any social events at 2:00 before it started hurting……
    Also after going to the ER and getting a room it still takes FOREVER to see a doctor and then to get action, so I also used to text and call my friends and family to let them know where I was and gave updates if what was going on.
    I don’t know about anyone else, but bleeding from butt and having tube stuck up it to make it stop does not seem Luke a walk in the park to me……:(
    Again, just my opinions and enjoy ur blog and realize that it’s okay to disagree with someone else’s opinion. 🙂

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Absolutely, I’m glad to read other opinions, truly! I don’t think Gretchen is perfect by any means but I don’t think she is mean or vicious deep down the way some of the other housewives are. I don’t think she sets out to hurt anyone on purpose. I could be wrong…

      • Suzieq says:

        I think that she does but is just more sneaky about it…..
        I’ve been in the hospital and have had more surgeries than I can count. I’d like to go ahead and send out a memo:
        DO NOT come to the hospital to see me!! Now if I know I might die or suspect I may die…then go ahead and visit me. Otherwise leave me alone unless u r my husband. I feel like shit and am in a lot of pain or I just want to sleep. I look like crap. If u come visit me then I’m obligated to have a convo with u….I DO not want to try to have a convo with u at this time. I will try to send out mass texts to let everyone know how I’m doing or have my husband send them.
        I completely agree and believe Vicki from the show last night as everything that happened is what has happened to me several times.

        • plainviewsue says:

          I totally agree with you SusieQ and felt Gretchen was absolutely wretched, and her reasoning on WWHL was ridiculous. I used to like Gretchen, but this season I think she has come off terrible, and this incident was the icing of the cake. Who questions someone who is at the hospital for anything??

          I’m also in the minority when it comes to RHOOC. I guess because it was the first one, I feel a kind of kindred to the show! Yes, Vicki is hard to take and she is so high-maintenence I cannot imagine being married to her! But I don’t hate her as much as a lot of others do, and last night when she spoke with Tamra, I really felt for her.

          As for Alexis’ dress line, whatever.

        • alicia says:

          Agree ! I took care of my friend during hip replacement
          surgery and she had co-workers calling and wanting to visit her the next day ! I politely told them no, she wanted her privacy at this time. When I was in the hospital for three weeks I had my mom put a “No visitors” sign on the door the first ten days.

        • If you had it like this says:

          I’m glad other people found Gretchen’s behavior and remarks to be out of line and kind of reprehensible. Who is she to say that just because she had symptoms in the last month she should have gone to the Dr. I just find Gretchen so disgusting and fake and I think her true character has been leaking out this season. There’s only so long she can keep up that phony, sweet girl facade. She showed very little remorse on WWHL and really wouldn’t take responsibility. Just seemed kind of angry that she got called out about it. I still think she thinks she’s beyond reproach in the eyes of the fans.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            ITA. I thought it was ridiculous that Gretchen compared Vicki being in the hospital to her fiance being in the hospital. She said something like why should she care when nobody cared about what she went through when Jeff was in the hospital. She’s a spoiled brat.

            • PJ says:

              Not defending Gretchen, but these women showed her not one ounce of sympathy while Jeff was sick. I think many would feel the same as Gretchen did. I find it very difficult to have any sympathy for Vicki., Tammy Sue or anyone else on this show for that matter.

              • ihearttalavera says:

                You’re right, but Gretchen was new to the show and they did not know Jeff. I agree, they still should have shown her sympathy but I think they found it hard to do since she was cheating and partying while Jeff was in the hospital. I can see why that made it hard for them to try to comfort her. G and A have been around Vicki for quite awhile now. While there is no love lost, I would think they would at least express some concern that she is sick enough to be treated in the hospital.

                Lynn said “In the end Vicki was fine.” I thought that was a pretty funny play on words, but luckily most people who go into the hospital do end up being fine, but that doesn’t mean as humans we shouldn’t express concern while they are sick.

                • PJ says:

                  The thing that bothered me was that they went after Gretchen so ferociously that I found it shocking. If Gretchen cheated or not it was between Gretchen and Jeff, it wasn’t up to Vicki and Tammy Sue to out Gretchen. The way they went after her was more like jealously than wanting to bring out the truth. Those are the things that make Vicki and Tammy Sue people that I have no sympathy for. Jenna on the other hand was a kinder person and she saw Gretchen and Jeff together and felt it was a real relationship. Had Tammy Sue and Vicki treated me the way they treated Gretchen I would have cut them out of my life completely. I just don’t think Gretchen would ever have treated anyone the way those women treated her. I don’t know but this is just my opinion. I think Tammy Sue and Vicki are vicious.

                  • ihearttalavera says:

                    I think they can all be pretty vicious. I do agree they seemed jealous and threatened of Gretchen’s looks and youth in the first season. I also think Tamra was in a bad place with her marriage at that time, and took it out on Gretchen. I don’t agree Gretchen won’t act the same way in ten years. Or even now if there was a younger, hotter housewife. I love that we can respectfully share our different opinions on this blog. Thanks for engaging!

                    • PJ says:

                      Who knows what anyone will do in ten years. We have a choice to get bitter or get better with these bad experiences. But at the time it happened I doubt that Gretchen would have acted like that to them.

                  • If you had it like this says:

                    I think they are all vicious at this point, including Gretchen. I will say that it was probably hard to fake sympathy for Gretchen when they found out that Gretchen was having a relationship, not just an affair, with another man and the relationship with Jeff seemed like it was just for the show. And the fact that the poor man was dying with cancer made it all the worse. But who knows? Maybe Jeff had an agreement with Gretchen and he knew. I had read that their relationship was all for show, and “the show”. There are lots of things about Gretchen and that sordid tale online, and it has nothing to do with Tammy Sue.

                    • ihearttalavera says:

                      I think there is a lot more going on with G than we see, and that could be why the women were so vicious toward her the first season. I’m curious about all of the lawsuits.

                    • PJ says:

                      I agree Gretchen is a wild child, not so much a child now. But I don’t think anyone but Gretchen and Jeff know the truth of their relationship.

                  • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                    PJ I Agree 100 %

                • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                  oh please they didnt know that was going on THEN
                  face it Icky & Trampy are disgusting lowlifes
                  they only live to make fun of others to feel better about themselfs

                  i wonder how long it will be before they are bumping uglies LOL

                  • If you had it like this says:

                    Yeah, they did find out about it during filming. Tammy and Vicki may be icky but Gretchen is no angel.

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              But what she said was true wasnt
              no one cared about her OR Jeff when he was going thru cancer in the hospital
              ICKY & TRAMPY spent thier days making fun of her and calling her a gold digger
              on camera
              did they think she would never see it
              I could care less what Icky goes thru

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            it wasnt just one month
            Icky had complained non stop for 2 months of being in constant pain
            and why would she show remorse for a woman that insults her every chance she gets
            personally i wouldnt care if icky were in worse shape as i find her to be the most vile and loathsome of anyone on all the shows next to JZ
            if that makes me an evil bitch then so be it
            as for gretchen if she pretended to care then i can see her being called a phony
            but she didnt pretend she said just how she felt
            you dont have to agree with her but that doesnt make her fake

        • CJAddictedNow says:

          Susieq, I agree! I too have had many trips to the emergency room and numerous surgeries. And like Vicke, mine was for the same sort of bleeding which started it all. I wanted to smack Gretchen across the room, and not because I am a Vickie fan. (Tamra was awful too with her drama. Don’t ANY of these women on any of these shows know how to behave?
          It seems none of them ever show a drop of empathy unless it is for the camera. Perhaps the woman who wrote all the psych reviews of these women is correct. BTW, you don’t live in Arkansas do you? I used to know a Susieq there.

          • Suzieq says:

            I’m in Texas…but have lots of family in hot springs which leads to me having lots of customers in Arkansas (I make hair bows and website is called Suzie q bows).

      • PJ says:

        I think she has just been treated so badly by these women that she’s had it with them, but deep down I think Gretchen is not a mean person.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          I think it’s mean when she calls Slade Tubba Wubba after he asked her not to do it. 😦

          • PJ says:

            That’s true. I feel bad for Gretchen with Slade. She may love him but he’s not husband material. Perhaps she calls him those names because she knows it’s never going to work and she’s separating herself emotionally. I’ve watched my friends go through that, their husbands or boyfriends acting just like that before they left the relationship, finding fault with them. It’s a sign of a relationship that in trouble.

            • ihearttalavera says:

              It is sad. If she were ten years younger, she could stay with him longer but her clock is ticking and she knows she needs to move on. It will be hard to make a clean break until she meets someone else. Breakups just suck. However, she should not ruin his self esteem by calling him names while she’s in the process of breaking up. If it were him calling her names, we would all be enraged.

            • ihearttalavera says:

              Your other comment about becoming “bitter or better” immediately made me think of a WWHL game. I can totally see Andy showing RHW pics and asking people to say if they are BITTER OR BETTER? this season. If we see it on in the next few weeks, we’ll know Andy reads this blog!

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          PJ you should seek her out on Twitter she is one of the sweetest people i have ever met online

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        you arent wrong she doesnt have a mean bone in her body

    • klmh says:

      I too, was taken aback by Lynn’s assessment of Gretchen’s behavior and remarks concerning Vicki’s hospitalization. Rectal bleeding is not something to take likely and adding pain into the mixture should be considered a medical emergency, or it would be to me.
      Seriously, if anyone here experiences pain with blood or tar stools, please have it checked out. Colon or anal cancer can spread quickly and the signs and symptoms may not present themselves until they are in the advanced stages. I lost an acquaintance lately that was diagnosed with colon cancer and within 2 months she was gone. There was nothing they could do for her. She was 59 years old without symptoms until diagnosed.

      • klmh says:

        oops, lightly, not likely

        • Kukulet says:

          For me, it depends on the situation. I wouldn’t visit a friend in the hospital in the days following a surgery, because I feel the same way-I don’t like people visiting me in the hospital.

          BUT if I had a close friend who was taken to the hospital in an emergency situation, I’d definitely be anxious, and if I were very close to the person, I’d head to the hospital if they needed me to.

          I understand where Lynn is coming from. On the show last night, it looked like Vicki played it out like an emergency situation. That could have been editing, but Vicki could have equally been melodramatic about the whole incident, for all we know. And it did look like Tamra was being nonchalant about an emergency, since that seems to be the way Vicki chose to play it.

          I also understand Gretchen’s comment about Vicki blowing off going to the doctor earlier. If Vicki had that type of bleeding a few months previous, she should have gone to the doctor then. I’m not defending Gretchen, but I can see why she (and Lynn) would be baffled as to why Vicki would overlook an alarming, uncommon symptom which would send most of us straight to the doctor,

          • ihearttalavera says:

            Maybe I’m confused. My understanding was that she had bleeding a few months back. It started again and so she went to the hospital. Even if she did bleed for a few months and ignore it, it could have been that it was worse that day or she felt sick. I honestly don’t think she planned it to detract from Gay Bashing Barbie’s “fashion” show. Really Vicki thinks about herself too much to plan something like that around someone else. JMO.

            • kotagirl29 says:

              Here is an excerpt from Vicki’s blog:

              “I’ll do my best to explain the timeline of how everything unfolded on the day of Alexis’ dress luncheon. I was getting ready to leave work and head over to the restaurant to see Alexis’ dresses line, and I decided to go to ladies room prior to leaving. Not to get to into too many details, when I looked down the entire toilet was filled with blood. It looked like someone was shot, and it was as if a blood valve had been turned on. It scared me, and I ran to tell Heidi and Danielle what was happening, and they immediately called Briana. I sat down with towels collecting my blood and waited for Briana to come pick me up. She immediately drove me to the emergency room and they started an IV right away. They said I had lost a lot of blood and probably would need a procedure in the morning to find out the source and the extent of the bleed.”

              She goes on to say that Tamra offered to come to the hospital, but Vicki told her to wait.

              • ihearttalavera says:

                Thanks for posting her blog. I believe her.

                • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                  it could be true but she still is guilting of the pocket gay comments and to me she will always be trash

          • HD says:

            I missed it last night as I had a phone call at that moment from the fashion show on. It would seem to me for Vicki to actually go to the hospital, workaholic-never-stop-for-a-moment Vicki, it must have been serious. It probably got to a point that she had to go. Because Gretchen didn’t fully know the extent she probably would have done well to just be quiet, look pretty and watch the fashion show. You can’t plan when you are going to bleed uncontrollably from your bottom. Yeah, let’s add that to our schedules.

          • klmh says:

            I think part of the problem was Gretchen’s and Tamra’s relationship. Im not sure, but I would imagine if Satan walked into the room and Tamra acknowledged it, Gretchen would find fault with her discussing it, and visa versa. They both grate on each other and nothing will change that.
            I am simply stating that if Vicki was in pain, beside the excessive bleeding she had, due to ulcers and diverticulitis, which hurts like hell by the way, she should and did go to the ER. The bleeding had to be frightening in itself. (This was mentioned in her blog that I read a few minutes ago.) I don’t think anyone here has the right to judge her actions in a situation that could have been life threatening.
            I have no opinion of visitors to those in the hospital. It the patient’s preference.
            One last thing and Im going to get hit by this, but I think that questioning this situation because you don’t like someone on a reality TV show is asinine. It is her health and Im glad she received help.

            • Kukulet says:

              I don’t think questioning the situation is asinine. I think deciding the situation is definitely one thing or the other on the basis of a few edited moments on television is asinine.

              • klmh says:

                Exactly. Take your health seriously
                and don’t judge someone else’s health concerns negatively because you don’t care for someone on a reality television show. Thats exactly what I said in my comment.

            • Suzieq says:

              About the Satan comment: every time tamra finds fault with Gretchen, she is called out on this blog and called trash though….

              • klmh says:

                And Im one that agrees that word fits her to a T. T. for Tamara… She’s a pretty honest person and I wouldn’t be surprised if she didn’t refer to herself as trash. She is what she is, jmo.

              • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                because she is trash

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      I thought Gretchen’s reaction was out of line. Gretchen does not get along with Vicki so she had know idea how serious or not serious Vicki’s condition could be. Depending on Vicki’s other symptoms (which could have been stress related) it could have seemed worse than it was tough ANY bleeding from the rectum should NOT be ignored. Also, Gretchen was pretty judgmental when it came to Tamra staying. It could have been that Vicki told Tamra not to come to the hospital.

      If Vicki was having any kind of scope, which actually is considered a surgery in the medical and insurance field, she has to take stuff to make sure her system is cleaned out. I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t want a crowd when I’m crapping my brains out. To have the scope, everything has to be cleared out.

      Though Vicki taking a picture of her IV was weird it could have been taken because Tamra told Vicki that Gretchen and Alexis did not believe she was in the hospital. There are times where I think the producers/editors conveniently leave things on the cutting room floor.

    • historykc says:

      I could not agree more. Lynn, I love your blog but lately I feel like my opinions must be out-of-sync with blogland! I thought what Gretchen said was despicable, dirty and ignorant! Don’t get me started on her calling the situation “ironic.” She IS moronic. I honestly have never been a Tamra or Vicki fan, but ever since Alexis and Gretchen teamed up I am actually feeling sorry for those two. They may not be perfect, but they are a hell of a lot more respectable than those Alexis and Gretchen. Also, Peggy doesn’t bother me! I feel bad for not agreeing with the consensus but I couldn’t stomach Gretchen’s responses on WWHL and don’t get me started on Alexis’ insecurities, holier-than-thou attitude and stupidity.

      • Cynth says:

        I feel the opposite. I never hated Tamra or Vicki, but the two of them together make me sick. Peggy has only added to the hate. Gretchen and Alexi are stupid, but vicious? I don’t get that from them. They’re not listening in on bathroom doors and laughing hysterically at a dinner table.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        i could never feel sorry for Icky & Trampy
        that would be like feeling sorry for Hitlet & Bin Laden

  6. VAgirl says:

    Thanks for the recaps Quincy and Lynn. Lynn, ALL the housewives on OC are shallow, vain, and egotistical. Why you give Gretchen a pass for her bad behavior I don’t know. And even though Kara doesn’t watch the housewives shows (probably because she’s working on writing hit songs), she wasn’t all PC about her opinions of what she did see and hear about the housewives on WWHL and I give her props for that.

    • Kats2 says:

      I liked Kara on WWHL she was a lot more interesting than any OC HW Andy has had on the show.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        I didn’t like that she wouldn’t play his game – even though he said he had shown her the full clips earlier.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          I think she did play his game. I think she honestly couldn’t tell because the audio was so poor and she seems like a perfectionist – not wanting to give her professional opinion flippantly.

          The other thing is she doesn’t seem like a super girly girl. So if you came in to this nonsense totally blind sitting next to a girl showing NO empathy for someone who is in the hospital with a bleeding anus, and all the fighting, it really would seem totally ridiculous. Well, because it is. I thought her reactions were pretty funny.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        i find her repulsive and teh reason that i stopped watching idol

  7. Kats2 says:

    I really dislike this whole franchise. Please just go away all of you OC HW’s.

    I’m glad the new girl is trashing Alexis and Jim every chance she gets. I can’t stand the holy fake Bellino’s. And any female who allows her husband to treat her like a 50’s house slave and blame it on Jesus is gutter trash to me.

    There is nothing about Alexis that is positive – nothing.

    Can’t stand Gretchen, she has the worst taste and no style and no personality. I get she has a makeup line but you don’t have to wear every ounce of it all at once. Who is going to buy her makeup and handbags? She has 107,163 twitter followers that’s nothing. Who would want to buy it, wouldn’t you want to save a little more and get a real designer bag?

    Slade is lazy. Slade said it himself on the show that he was a VP bringing home a big paycheck before, the industry changed and no one will pay that salary now. Slade thinks someone is going to make him an exec again? NOT. Get over yourself loser and go to work. As Lynn points out there is plenty of work to get in that field but your not going to be an exec and will have to work to make money.

    Slade and Gretchen belong together and deserve each other.

    Why does Gretchen and Alexis care so much about Tamara and Vicki, why put so much energy into every little thing they do or don’t do? My answer – because they are boring and have nothing else to offer on this show, that’s why.

    Say what you will about Vicki she works and we learned last night that with her misery at home she threw herself at her work even more. So that explains why she is at the office so late, she was running away from her marriage and spending time at a job she loves. I think they both tried and it didn’t work, go be happy. While I know Jeanna the pig would take Don or any ex who looked at her, I hope Don moves away. Go find a woman on that river you hang out on. I wish them both luck.

    Tamara and Gretchen have so much in common they can’t even see it. Hate them both.

    • Vavoline Jackson Johnson says:

      well, I work too an there ain’t no body fawnin over me! The reason Vickie is miserable is cause she is a miserable human being…no mo, no less

      • Kats2 says:

        She’s odd and awkward for sure, but being in a bad relationship can really make things worst. I don’t think she is a miserable person all the time. Pain the arse and makes a bad situation worst for sure.

      • lovemamaearth says:

        I agree!! And she seems shocked that Donn is FINALLY treating HER like she’s treated him for a long as we’ve seen the show. Karma’s a bitch.

    • Eve says:

      Vicki is also dating an insurance person now. ….could be the reason for the long nights “at work”. Terrible that she blamed Donn for not wanting to be home.

    • If you had it like this says:

      Agree with everything you said.

  8. NJBev says:

    FYI- The RHONY are about to be on the Today Show–
    sorry if this a repeat

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Why did the have to let Kelly speak…Alex should have been the only one to say anything!

      • I agree with you, Alex should have been the only one to speak. NBC must have decided who was going to speak before their segment. I don’t know why they chose Kelly. At the end of the segment, Jill and LuAnn tried to speak and they were talking over each other. I couldn’t understand what they were saying.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          I noticed that Jill and Luanne were trying to add their 2 cents but nobody cared…

      • Nancy says:

        How did Kelly get on the housewives? Really did they come to her or did KooKoo call them?
        Re: Alexis…did she finish High School? Why does Bravo have the need to hire these “women”? It insults me!

    • Kats2 says:

      Can’t watch please recap if anything good happens.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        They were only on for a few seconds to talk about a Times Square walk that is happening today…all of them except Ramona were there and only Alex and dimwitted Kelly spoke about the walk.

      • NJBev says:

        Can you believe I missed it!!
        The phone rang and when I got back to TV it was over.
        I hope the rest of the day goes better.

  9. WindyCityWondering says:

    IMO – none of the OC cast is naive or sheltered. They live in a little universe of their own creation. They are not worldly, cultured or interested in anything except their looks and acquiring symbols of their created status. Watching these vapid, vane, over the hill vixens is very difficult.

  10. Amy says:

    Wow!!!!! I am going to have a hard time choosing a winner for my mini blog entry! Lol

  11. TLM says:

    The arrogance of Gretchen to actually say Vicki was going into a hospital on purpose and at the moment of Alexis’ collezione de crap at a glorified Red Lobster restaurant to rain on Alexis’ parade. Yeah, I’m sure the surgery was all just a stunt too, right Gretchen? That Vicki really fooled all the medical staff and surgeons too, I guess. Wow, that Vicki must be pretty clever!

    What a heartless, soulless ghoul Gretchen is. This is someone who took care of a man with cancer for three years? Well, she did go to Bass Lake after all to jump around in her bikini while Jeff was in the hospital. Damn those dramatic cancer patients trying to ruining her 4th of July! I bet Jeff just got sick to rain on her parade, too! This is the same genius who actually accused Tamra of GETTING A DIVORCE AS A PUBLICITY STUNT — um, really?? I may not like Tamra, but that accusation was just insane, and I’m believing Tamra more every day. I could not believe Gretchen sitting there giggling and rolling her eyes that Vicki was in the hospital. This wasn’t like Camille sending Kyle a mean text just when she knew Kyle would be at a luncheon. This was someone hemorrhaging in a hospital when you happened to be at one of your dumb events. Way to make it all about you & Alexis, Gretchen!!

    And Alexis, the good Christian? Where was the compassion from the woman who lives on Jesus Lane? I suppose if these two heard Vicki got in a car crash, they would accuse her of being “dramatic” as well and doing it on purpose. Saint Alexis was bothered that Tamra was ON THE PHONE trying to find out about Vicki in the hospital because it was during her fashion show. Gee, I’m so sorry Alexis. I’m glad your priorities are in the right place, like your amateur-hour She by Sheree redux and stamping out all mace jokes at spa parties. You know — the REAL crises in this world. And you, Alexis, are NEVER overly dramatic or attention-getting. You never, ever steal the spotlight from others. You never, for example, cry at a dinner party, lie about why your husband wasn’t there, run away to the bathroom and hide, forcing all the dinner guests to look for you, come back to the party and make a speech while crying about how your “best friend” isn’t there, and then act like a drunk girl at a frat party.

    Stick a fork in this show – it’s done. Gretchen is a disgusting pig, Alexis is vacant, Peggy is a poser who looks like a female impersonator, Tamra & Eddie are boring and irritating, Vicki is sad and Jeana is a fucking idiot who pats abusive men on the head, including her own son. I may tune in to the last show just to see Tamra kick her ass, and then I never want to see any of them again.

  12. Vavoline Jackson Johnson says:

    The Lawd his-self need to tell Miz Tamra that pullin her hair back like dat dont flatter that giant fo-head o hers. That said, there is no reason at all to bring them uh-hum, ladies back again.

  13. IndianaHousewife says:

    Good morning. I saw this on the last blog, http://absurdtosublime.net/2011/05/13/vicki-gunvalson-frees-donn-has-new-man/ (Thanks AdGirl).

    Is it just me or is this the guy that Vicki & Tamara met when they were on vacation and Tamara was doing the body shots? Looks very close to me.

    • sally says:

      I agree…the don look a like right?

      • IndianaHousewife says:

        Thats what I am thinking. Would be interesting if someone knew the timing of the filming, etc.

      • Kats2 says:

        Balding white dude is all I see, like shooting fish in a barrel.

    • Kats2 says:

      Thank you for the link.

      I think Vicki like everyone else deserves to be happy. The problem with many of the women on these HW shows is that they really are not happy people and we watch their horrible behavior and unhappiness play out on this show because of it.

      • IndianaHousewife says:

        I agree, I have been divorced and it is not fun. I would much prefer to watch people who are truly happy with their lives. I really do not need to know all the “yucky” stuff. However that said I continue to read and look for all of the dirt:)

      • nathania says:

        not only not happy but not capable of being happy.

        her comment, “i get a lot of respect at work, but not when I am at home” is very telling.

        she wants don to treat her like a boss? knowing she won’t respect him if he does? I’d hate to be in his shoes…

    • ihearttalavera says:

      She looks very happy.

  14. NMhousewife says:

    I am back and forth with my feelings on vick’s marital issues. She is a horrible human being but you never can tell what is going on with a marriage even if it looks great from the outside. I was pleasantly surprised to hear we are at the end as it has been miserable. I don’t even look forward to Sundays anymore since The Amazing Race is done and I find Mob Wives ridiculous. I would have more respect for Gretchen if she had owned up to her horrible comments. I can understand thinking that with someone you cannot stand but should never have said out loud. Tamara did try to cause extra drama and should have just left if she was that concerned. I think most of us would have with a good friend. Peggy and her nebbish hubby Micah are SO trying to “keep up with the Jones’es” and I agree that it was so obvious she came to the show with the intent to suck up to the mean girls and throw over Alexis. Alexis is ridiculous but I find her harmless whereas the other girls I find almost as evil as Jill and Luanne…almost.

    • justanothermary says:

      I think Vicki reads too many self-help books and tries to make others comply with them (the love languages, the “all four tires” reference, etc. etc.). The problem is she reads the books and sees how others should change, but not how she can apply the advice to herself. You don’t just ask God to fix something then do nothing to change and expect miracles. You have to at least lay the proper ground work to make miracles happen. God helps those who help themselves. JMHO

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ITA – Vicki is very good on seeing what is wrong and needs changing in other people but none of it really applies to herself. She is a hard working and caring human being and there has to be someone out there that is worthy of her wonderful self!

  15. BostonGirl says:

    I would like to feel something for Vicky but she is the rudest most awful of them all. She obviously cares for no one but herself and maybe her two kids. She treats her husband like dirt and then pretends she’s devastated over the break up. How is that possible? Remember when she went to Europe with her mother? Horrible. Her comment last night, calling the man serving wine a Mexican. Why does she love her work? It’s so obvious that she just loves being the boss, having complete control over her employees and humiliating them at her whim! She is so ugly inside. Good luck Donn, hope you find a loving spouse.

    • Eve from CT says:

      I agree…Bravo helped her by showing some scenes where Donn said something snarky. I think most of the time Donn is treated poorly. Vicki is rich now and she was a boytoy like Tamra. She is a poor actress. I think her tears were not genuine.

  16. justanothermary says:

    You know I love ya Lynn, but I think you really screwed the pooch where Gretchen is concerned. The whole gold digging with Jeff while screwing that Jay guy was too much. Now she is simply being a vile as the rest of them in OC. Wasn’t it just a couple weeks ago she agreed to quit calling Slimey “Tubba Wubba”, and wasn’t she right back at it last night? Who the Hell is she to put ANYONE down, especially when she turns around and tries to convince us how much she loves him. She is getting something from Slimey she can’t get elsewhere, although I can’t for the life of me figure out what it is (no I don’t buy the “he’s great in bed bit”).

    • IndianaHousewife says:

      In my opinion she is with Slade to stay relevant and talked about. She knows the other women do not like him and will talk about him. This gives her the perfect opportunities to react to their comments. Also I would guess that if they are talking about Slade, then they are not talking about Jay and her court issues.

      • justanothermary says:

        Good point! That’s probably exactly what she gets from Slimey.

      • Kats2 says:

        Could be, but there are so many great people who are in relationships with people I just don’t get. . . Love is blind. . . .

        My theory all along has been that Gretchen is/was jealous of Jo and Gretchen is one of those people who like the feel of that win over someone else. So a little extra something in it that Gretchen took Slade from Jo. Some women I will never understand.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Slade is the underdog or should we just say the dog – that gets Gretchen talked about.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      “screwed the pooch” HA!

      Can you imagine how she treats him off camera if this is what she does on national television? Yikes.

  17. kbinldo says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Trump state that he was going to do something “different” before he named the winner? I really thought he was going to name both John AND Marlee as co-winners. Regardless of what he said, he ended up not doing anything differently. Oh well. It was a very close race & could have gone either way.

    • NYCer says:

      I think what he did differently was just to name the winner. In all other apprentice finales he fires the 2nd place finisher, and “hires” the winner. In this one, I thought he said he respected them both so he was going to do something different (not fire Marlee).

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Trump can’t just hire a “celebrity” because they have their career and are not looking to be a Trump flunky.

    • quincyil says:

      He did. I thought that he usually went with the person who brought in the most money, but he didn’t say that. I hate it when there are no rules.

      • kbinldo says:

        Well, he didn’t do that when he “hired” Joan Rivers & fired the poker champion (the one who was on RHOBH). Joan sucked throughout the competition, & didn’t pull in as much $ as the poker champion, but Trump “hired” her anyway.

        At least if he had picked Marlee, I would have been happy too. She & John both did a lot to raise money for their charities & unlike a few of the other celebs, never lost sight of why they were there in the first place.

  18. NYCer says:

    I thought when Andy Cohen was talking to Gretchen about why she didn’t sing, he was implying that she/Slade were asking for too much money. When a show uses a song, you have to pay. I think they played hardball and Andy just said forget it. I can’t imagine #WWHL has a big budget. And Slade (IMO) seems to be filling Gretchen’s head with the wrong advice.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I agree with the posters on the previous blog – she was too embarrassed to sing in front of Kara. Whether you like her or not, she is a respected professional in the music business.

      Gretchen could have sang any song that Bravo did not have copyright issues with but instead she chose to use that lame excuse why she couldn’t sing that one particular song. I don’t think her singing was too bad, but I’m sure it’s not on Kara’s level.

      • NYCer says:

        Andy says this in his blog today:
        To answer your questions about what happened to Gretchen’s performance, sadly she doesn’t have promotional rights to perform her own song, which seems unusual and didn’t become clear until the weekend. We tried to come up with another performance, but it was not to be. In any case, it was good having her on after what I thought was a really powerful episode of O.C. My heart was breaking for Vicki and Donn last night. That was some really sad stuff happening.


        I wonder who has the rights? Whoever it was didn’t give her clearance and that, I suspect, is about wanting more money.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          I wonder if it’s Jo – Slade’s ex! The whole thing makes no sense.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            The fact that Gretchen wouldn’t say who has the rights leads me to believe it is Slade and it is all about money.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            She signed a deal that didn’t give her promotional rights to sing her own song? LOL…and who is her ‘manager’ Slade? What a ringing enforcement.

        • If you had it like this says:

          Gretchen is a master of smoke and mirrors. She’s already proven she has no problem lying as has been shown with her affair with Jay while she was with Jeff on the show. I’m sure she’s lying about whatever the reason is she didn’t sing.

        • Adgirl says:

          But Andy -Gretchen said that wasn’t the case on WWHL. She said she decided she wanted to sing a “different” song. She had the rights to her own song, but strangely she didn’t want to sing it.

          • MKValle says:

            Gretchen tweeted this last night:

            GretchenRossi Gretchen Rossi
            Technical difficulties on WWHL, so don’t think I’m performing now 😦 I’m sooo bummed! Had the cutest performance planned!

        • nathania says:

          she refused to perform.

          That’s what I gather. Andy was inches away from accusing her of lying, right on the show.

          I think what is is is that performances on WWHL are almost universally panned. She probably wants to release a studio version first or something, put it on her website if she hasn’t already. For whatever reason she does not want to sing it live right now.

  19. Stella says:

    There is a blog on Bravo called Kelly Bensimon has her eye on Steven Tyler and this is what it says:
    Kelly Bensimon didn’t turn to Bryant Park during Fashion Week for inspiration for her jewelry designs — she apparently turned to American Idol.

    The Real Housewives of New York City star tells HollywoodLife.com that her new jewelry line was inspired by rock icons like Idol judge Steven Tyler and Led Zeppelin. “Channel the icons that you love! Whoever it is that you emulate, just think, ‘What would they do?,'” she tells the site of her approach to style. Keeping an eye on the street doesn’t hurt either.

    “What’s on the streets is urban, modern, and young, and that is where fashion comes from,” Kelly tells the site.

    But taking those style from the streets and into the more refined places one might find a Real Housewife? That’s the challenge. “The jewelry has legs — it has day to night mobility and allows you to be a chameleon,” she explained. And don’t worry about breaking the bank — pieces start as low as $50. “Looking good doesn’t have a price point if the quality is there, and the quality of all of my items is 100 percent,” she said. “I wouldn’t make something that I wouldn’t wear and I wear all of my pieces.”

    Don’t know if everyone say this so I just thought I’d share

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Do you think those are really quotes from Kelly? I’m suspicious.

    • Stella says:

      Oops Don’t know if everyone saw this not say this.

      Also I thought it was funny cause I’ve seen comments where people thought Kelly looks like Steven Tyler.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        I was thinking the same thing. I thought this article was going to be about how she gets her style, hair and makeup tips from him.

        • Stella says:

          Yeah I thought she was gonna say she copies his style just not in those words. I think she has either heard or seen that he wears feather jewelry and decided to use that connection to make her crap seem relevant.

    • Nancy says:

      Did I or did I not say that I found the perfect guy for Kelly and his name is
      Steven Tyler?
      This almost gives me the creep’s. He just wrote a book called

      Need I say more. A match made in Heaven.

    • T-Rex says:

      Uhm okay on a lark I went to her Fugly Jeilwree site and seriously, I bought that crap back in the 80’s and she is now selling this for like 80 bucks. This is not novelty, her earrings look more like old “roach” clips from back in the day! OMG! You are not going to get Bethenny money from this!

      • ihearttalavera says:

        “old “roach” clips”


        I think we’re around the same age, T-Rex. Blast from the past.

  20. leighmarker says:

    I have a friend who works in the county music world and her company sells the rights to songs, so I am assuming Gretchen might of sang the song (whenever) but she cannot do it publicly until the “song writer” gets paid? I think thats what my friend explained to me? I could be way off but I am pretty sure that is what she said. Sound resonable anyways.
    Also, if your bleeding from your arse get your arse to the doc or er…MIL had rectal cancer and almost died from it, she didnt go when she first suspected it and it just got really bad. She had kemo(sp?) and radiation took care of it the following year she wound up with colon cancer. she so far so good right now, but ignoring that is BAD.
    thanks for the re caps…btw I hate Gretchen too!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Who knew so many people who agree about Jill could disagree about Gretchen???

    • nathania says:

      I really liked Gretchen last season because she seemed lighthearted and fun but this season she is a bit of a drag.

      My guess is that she is really in turmoil over being in love with a deadbeat and she is projecting those feelings outward onto the other cast members. She is hypersensitive about Slade, but that stuff is originating from her own doubts, not other people. I think her anxiety about all this is ruining her mood this season.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Nathania, I could not agree more. I think she’s spoiled and when life is going her way, she can be wonderful. Now that she’s questioning her life with Slade, she’s not in a good place (especially because she’s realizing she wants a family so she needs to poop or get off the pot) and behaving badly.

        I really enjoy your comments, BTW.

  21. Adgirl says:

    Lots of RH stuff on absurdtosublime today

    Gretchen & Slade:
    1. Gretchen has so many lawsuits against her she may owe more money than Slade.
    2. The day after declaring Vicki was pulling a stunt during Alexis’s fashion show, Gretchen & Slade tried to visit Vicki at the hospital, flowers in hand.

    Umm Why??? They were turned away. LOL.


    I’m sorry Lynn, but we part ways on Gretchen. I find her shallow, evasive and shifty. She is a user. (Insert heehaw giggle here)
    I will say she has a sensational figure and a great relationship with her folks (ummm, but where was everyone else during their anniversary vow renewal?)

    Gretchen has expressed zero concern for how Slade’s sons are faring with no financial support from their father. Instead she throws the kids mom under the bus. Excuse me- there is a judge who is really all over this mess and it is the judge who has insisted Slade report to him weekly on his job search. And Slade is supposed to look for work outside the entertainment field.
    Why doesn’t Slade get a job selling Mercedes or BMWs? And, no, there really are no jobs in real estate, mortgage or insurance in OC or So Cal anymore. Slade is right. That is over. When I left OC I was a vendor to the new homes industry. Half the ad agencies went under in 6 mos. All the marketing people were let go. It was worse for mortgage and insurance employees. That market sector is DOA in OC.

    Gretchen – How is it Vicki’s fault that Tamra made a scene at the fashion show? Tamra should have STFU and either left or quietly kept in touch with Vicki & Briana. But that was TAMRA, not Vicki. And didn’t Gretchen make a scene HERSELF by getting Alexis upset about Vicki “purposely” skipping the fashion show?
    So, Gretchen what is your story? On the show you said Vicki was pulling a stunt. The next day in real life you & Slade try to visit her in the hospital. Now you are still claiming it was a stunt. Umkay.

    Vicki’s stunt. I have been seriously ill in my life. I spent several years missing work due to a series of surgeries for tumors. The fact is things get better, things get worse day-to -day. Vicki’s daughter Briana is a nurse and I’m sure she decided that it was “time” for Vicki to get to the emergency room. Something must have been different that day.
    Gretchen’s reaction was just as self centered as she was accusing Vicki of being. Gretchen, like LouMan was itching to stir the pot for face time and retribution.

    Lastly, I don’t know the deal with Vicki and Donn, but there have been plenty of suggestions that Donn hasn’t always been “committed”. They should have divorced a long time ago. No woman should take public digs at her man. That is proof the relationbship is dead. Tubba Wubba!!

    My theory is most “couples” who appear on reality TV are already on the down slope and just like some couples have a baby or buy a house together to “heal” their marriage now being on tv is a new relationship band-aid.

    • klmh says:

      Well said.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      “No woman should take public digs at her man. That is proof the relationbship is dead. Tubba Wubba!!”

      I so agree, and the TW reference was hysterical. I’m not a Slade fan, but it is not right to degrade and humiliate the person you supposedly are so in love with – especially on national tv.

      To me, that is a definite sign that the respect is gone, and once that goes the relationship is sure to end. Now, if Alexis would just start calling Taliban Jim Tubba Wubba Jim we could all start counting down to the day he is off the show and out of our living rooms!

    • quincyil says:

      Aren’t these women supposed to care about each other?

      • ihearttalavera says:

        You know what, I think that’s a huge part of the problem. We are all under the assumption that they are supposed to be friends, so we are appalled at how they treat each other. Really they are just coworkers who are forced together for the show and barely tolerate each other.

        The show would be so much better if they were actually friends.

  22. Sus says:

    Slade owing tons of money for child support isn’t the only issue. He had a medical procedure to prevent him fathering a child. A reversal isn’t guaranteed.

    She says she wants lots of children. We first see her with a guy twice her age who already raised a family. Now she’s with Slade who has complex issues that make it questionable to start a family with him (if not impossible – vasectomy!).

    Tamara, Gucci and Louie Vuitton put their own names on their stuff. What else is Alexis going to name her dress line. Jealous much?

    I think Slade is hoping for a windfall of money to pay his debt. I wonder if he is playing the lottery instead of looking for a job.

    • dsc60 says:

      i always wondered why they never brought up the problem with the vasectomy in relation to Gretchen wanting kids. Gretchen talks about the money issue but isn’t that a moot point if he can’t do his part in making the babies in the first place? i would also worry about the fact that he’s lazy about not finding a job. however, i think they both feel like he IS actually working (for Gretchen) and it’s a win-win because he doesn’t have to give his paycheck up and he’s helping her build her empire, even if it is all in her head.

      • Jennifer says:

        You can reverse a vascetomy

        and LV and Gucci are a company (run by Salma Hayek’s husband- lucky girl!) not somones name

  23. quincyil says:

    I really don’t any any of the OC women. I do watch the show, but I don’t care enough about them to think about them or discuss the show.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Very interesting – and who films with HWs if they aren’t giong to be part of the scenery? Don’t know if it is to replace or supplement (Kim will be busy with the baby) but if anyone has made her self difficult to film with it is Ms Lekes.

  24. cabbie413 says:

    OT – but I loved in the confessional when Bethenny called Luann a “dumb drag queen” when she tried to ridicule about driving the SkinnyGirl car

    Knowing what we know now, we can see that Bethenny was 10 steps ahead of the rest of us – she was right about everything she said about each of the housewives

  25. Stella says:

    I’m gonna go back and read the comments so sorry if this is a repeat but how about Alexis saying the food (I forget which item) is a delicatessen instead of a delicacy? Now that cracked me up.

  26. Mimisfbay says:

    Great blog but I guess I will go back and read again. Just read comments this trip back. You praised Gretchen? Not sure I got that.

    I am sure that VG was hospitalized for something and an ER doesn’t just put an IV in you for fun. That being said I agree that if it were a friend/relative of most of us we would make apologies and leave the event. TB? Same old behavior.

    Seeing VG pic with her new boyfriend is pretty darn telling. Who is she kidding? The crocodile tears are meaningless. She has always been a self-centered, cruel person on the show. Sorry, scenes of VG weeping are like watching JZ weeping. Yawn. They have done so much damage that I just can’t take anything they do/say as anything but manipulative.

    CA liked Marlee better but love St Jude’s so I am glad that JR won. Over a million for St Jude’s is just wonderful. The show is okay but the fact that they are doing challenges for charity is commendable. Unlike some people we watch…

    MobWives? I just can’t watch a show where criminals are given a platform. HWNJ was enough for me. Seeing those smarmy creeps last season was enough. Not sure I can watch it but will come here for the recap.

    • quincyil says:

      I just watched it and I don’t think I even thought Gretchen was the person she wanted us to think she was on the show.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Hi Q. Great recaps! I had asked you a question above re: Kelly name dropping. Did you mean that it raises her up in the HW community? Or celebrity community? I’m not clear on that. Thanks!

        • quincyil says:

          I think she and Jill do to to let us know they are up there and we are down here. It’s a way to show off that she is a star.

          I don’t care if Jill or Kelly have friends who are actors or Manhattan socialites. Most of the time, I don’t know who those important people are.

          I have read articles by SAG members (the actors’ guild). They feel threatened by the rise of reality shows. You don’t see the big shot actresses runnig around with Kelly Bensimon.

          I guess I have never been into celebrity worship. I value people for what they accomplish and the kind of people they are.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            I get it now. Thanks. I’m the same way. I enjoy movies and tv, but if I ever saw any of these people in person I probably wouldn’t cross the street to say hello. I’m more impressed by teachers, nurses and people who really change our lives for the better.

          • dsc60 says:

            “You don’t see the big shot actresses runnig around with Kelly Bensimon.”

            you don’t remember when kelly said to bethenny that bethenny attacked her friend Gweneth? bethenny said Gweneth who? and kelly said Paltrow. gag

      • Mimisfbay says:

        Agree, how can we sit judging these people and their lives? They are playing for the camera and for relevancy. Gretchen’s behavior this season is so strange. She says and does things that seem like she is being fed a storyline/character and trying so hard to be, wha? Tamra is basically the same without the husband cringing and controlling. Her behavior at the restaurant made me yearn for the days before mobile phones. You know, when you would leave the table to make a call. Clearly, VG was able to text. Having recently been in an ER with my daughter they were very clear about NO mobile phones. She, too, had an IV for fluids but we weren’t taking pix to send via text to her friends and colleagues. These situations are so staged.

        • dsc60 says:

          i thought tamra had said that she was receiving texts from Brianna, vick’s daughter.

    • klmh says:

      I find myself again defending Tamara because, as any of us know, a person admitted into the ER can be there for hours on end. Visitors are limited for the most part to family members only, and in one of our hospitals, it can take up to 12 hours to get into a room at certain times of the week. Tamara is one of my least favorites, but I would rather spend my time in a nice restaurant and supposedly supporting a friend, as she did, than sitting in the ER waiting room for God knows how long, waiting for whatever is to come. Surgery?

      • ihearttalavera says:

        ITA and said basically the same thing on the other blog. They especially aren’t going to let her in if they are running tests.

        All of these women look really bad at one point or another, so it’s hard to really, truly like any of them. I am committed to watching though because I’ve watched from the beginning.

        I’m doomed!

        • klmh says:

          I just don’t have anything in common with any of these ladies from the OC. Thank God…
          I think its amazing that these ladies have decided to allow their lives to be shattered and torn into shreds by being on a reality show. Its so hard to understand what would be worth this pain and scrutiny to not only themselves, but their family. Fame and fortune, is that what they are seeking, and is it worth it? Sad.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            Ha, thank God is right! I don’t understand why anybody would want their life out there like this either. It seems like it usually turns out for the worst with the exception of Bethenny, and I worry about her staying in it too long. I don’t think it’s sustainable. I’m super private. I don’t even have a FB page (gasp!). I think that’s why these shows fascinate me so much.

            • Sus says:

              Lots of reality tv stars have gotten divorced after their show airs:

              Hulk Hogan
              Jon and Kate
              Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey
              Danny Bonaduce
              Jenni from Flipping Out
              The Countless
              Tamra and Simon
              Now Vicki

      • quincyil says:

        The GI procedure is considered surgery. They put you under with anesthesia too. She may have had an upper and lower GI for good measure since she also was complaining of stomach pains.

        My mom had bleeding and they waited 48 hours after the big event for the exam. My mom is older than Vicki, but it too her ages to come back.

        It’s a big deal.

        • klmh says:

          Thats the thing. No one knew what steps the GI Dr. would take, and hours of waiting in a hospital waiting room isn’t pleasant especially since cell phones can keep you informed and you can be at the hospital in minutes, if needed. Im sure Vicki’s daughter kept her informed.
          I also thin Suzieq had a good thought about T. wanting to keep the others informed about Vicki. I would have…

      • Suzieq says:

        I also feel that tamra was the only link to Vicki at that time…so tamra was letting all the other women know what was going on. I would have also been telling everyone else in the room what was going on with our “friend”. I would have made the mistake of thinking the others wanted me to find out and let them know.
        I’m also sticking to the fact that Vicki told T not to come up to the hospital because nobody wants visitors when they r in pain!!!

        • Eve says:

          In pain but can send texts and pictures….just doesn’t add up to me.

          • klmh says:

            Meds are usually given in the ER for pain!

            • ihearttalavera says:

              Bottom line is there are people in this world who I can’t stand but, I never want to hear that they anybody is sick or in physical pain. And if I do, I don’t accuse them of faking. It would never my mind they could be faking to screw with me. That’s just me.

              Although… Now that I think of it, I wouldn’t put it past JZ to fake a trip to the ER if it would in some way help make us think Ramona is an alcoholic. Hmmm…

        • If you had it like this says:

          Vicki said in her blog that she had Briana tell Tamra not to come . As any sane person would probably tell their friends. You don’t go to the ER to visit someone. They don’t allow visitors. Obviously, Vicki was eventually admitted to a real room for her procedure. Also, it may not be encouraged but people do use their cell phones there. My friend went to the ER last Sunday for horrible back pain and she called and texted me the whole time. And she was in really awful pain. But I didn’t accuse her of it not being real because she was texting me!

  27. lillybee says:

    I don’t believe that I am doing this but I am giving Vicki credit for not bad mouthing Donn when talking to Tamara about her divorce.

    • Eve says:

      This time….but she has put him down in the past. Now she calling on her bible for help looking for sympathy. I don’t believe her especially since she already has a new boyfriend.

  28. HD says:

    In regards to Vicki: Let’s think back here…Remember when Brianna had those lumps in her neck, that was treated as no big deal (I think Brianna even told her not to come or soemthing) but of course we all know its a big deal but I am just saying how they acted.

    Vicki-in her book said her sister attempted suicide, but survived and it was never spoke of again. Vicki also has some other problem I read, I think it is a benign tumor in her ear or something that she has to go get monitored every year or something but she has never mentioned that on the show. She just does not seem the type.

    Vicki is and probably has always been that way. You know the type, “it’s no big deal, I’m fine, don’t worry about me, etc.” All hell could be breaking out in their mind with worry but Vicki appears to the type that will try to put on a strong face because that is her personality.

  29. Smompy says:

    Thanks for the recaps, Lynnn & Quincy. I missed both the OC gals and CA last night. I’m happy for John Rich and a little sad for Marlee, predictably.

    I did see some of WHHL and Gretchen still doesn’t bother me too much. I’m with Lynn in that I don’t believe her core is bad. Well, OK, maybe it’s GETTING bad, but I don’t really think it started out that way. Mostly I think she’s become bitter becase of the way she felt she was treated in her first season, especially by Tamra Sue and here fake besty, Saint Chipmunk, the Martyr of the bloody rectum. I suppose I look at Gretchen in sort of the same way I look at Ramona. Sort of. I mean, when viewed on her own, Ramona’s many faults become obvious yet when contrasted with her television colleagues, she looks pretty good. Gretchen clearly has lots and lots of flaws, but when I compare her in my mind to her relentlessly negative colleagues, she doesn’t seem quite so awful to me. I’m not saying she’s a particularly good or admirable person, mind you, just that she’s by far the lesser of two evils. Or, in the case of the RHoOC, the lesser of many evils.

    OK, I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind here and to each his own and all that, but I will never stop being shocked by people who say they actually LIKE Vicki Gunvalson. To me that’s tantamount to saying one LIKES Jill Zarin. When it comes to Vicki, for literally years now I have tried and tried (and then tried some more) to find something to like about her. In the begining I always gave her the benfit of the doubt, but but Vicki herself seems to be determined to make me hate her, and she’s been successful. What the hell is there to like about that woman? She thinks she is superior to EVERYONE and feels the need to share that thought whenever possible. She treats her underlings like crap, and clealry she sees EVERYONE as her underling. She’s constantly judging everyone for their perceived sins, except herself of course, making her one of the biggest hypocrites to ever walk the Earth. And when her own bad (immoral to be specific) behavior is questioned, she generally plays the I’m-a-Christian card to show us that SHE’S not a judgemental hypocrite, but GOD is. I just do not understand how anyone could possibly stick up for such a rotten-to-the-core human being. I’ve heard some say she can’t be all bad because she loves her children and is a very hardworking individual, but to that I say pshaw! {is that an actual word?} What normal human being doesn’t love her own children? Even some serial killers love their children. Admiring someone for loving her own children is like admiring someone for breathing oxygen. Our Icky Vicki is hardly a role model for mothers. And hardworking? Digging ditches is hard work. Nursing is hard work. Putting up drywall is hard work. Spending every waking moment on a phone or computer trying to drum up new leads so you can sell more and more and more insurance to strangers is not hard work. It’s obsessive and time consuming, yes, but it isn’t hard work. And it is not a valid excuse to avoid being a decent wife, mother or friend either, particularly when the person spending all that time “working” is already quite wealthy. In Vicki’s case, it’s obvious that those long hours she works are due to her own selfishnesss and greed. Every time a family member or friend expreses regret that Vicki has missed or will miss some time with them, she uses the “I’m a hardworking woman” line as a club to beat them with. She might as well just tell them what she really feels and say “I’M important to me and you’re not.” Plus, lately it seems more and more likely that all those hours Vicki spent “working” may have actually involved some non-work activity as well. And now that embarrassing dumbass has the nerve to try to make me feel sorry for her because the marriage that she publicly tried to sabotage at every opportunity is finally falling apart??? It is to laugh! And I’m not even taking Donn’s side either, because frankly I think he’s a masochistic idiot for staying with that self-centered, obnoxious harpy as long as he did.

    At this point I really can’t imagine Vicki doing anything that could make me like her again. Just like it did for Jill Zarin, that ship has sailed.

    Now please don’t get me started on Tamra Sue, as that venting of hostility could go on for even longer:)

    • HD says:

      Every hard working insurance person is coming for you.

      Put me on the list as one of those that actually does like Vicki. Does she have parts of her that irritates me, yes, primarily her need to remind everyone in a 5 mile radius that she has a job. We know Vicki. You work. We get it.

      • Kats2 says:

        In the ocean of garbage that is he HW’s, Vicki is less annoying and scummy as the rest. I’m still not having lunch with her or joining her fan club any time soon.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I think with Vickie, she is flawed in the way that most normal people are flawed. I’m sure if people were observing us, it wouldn’t take out too long to pick out our faults. Take Alex and Simon for example, even though I like them more than I did in S1, I still find them pretentious and ‘try hards’ but I don’t think they are ‘rotten to the core’. I think as people if someone were to list all their qualities there would be more pluses than negatives.

          It’s people like Teresa and Jill Zarin (among others) who take it to a whole other level. The operate differently, Jill plays psychological battle ship with people while Teresa wants to arm wrestle.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        But HD what is there you do like about her cause i cant find one redeaming thing about her

    • Eve says:

      I agree with you except that I think Donn was the nice thing about VG and now without him she has nothing to like. She wants to be just like Tamra Sue. She trys to appear so above it all but in reality she is quite childish.

      • vilzvet says:

        Was I the only one who caught Vicki admitting to Tamra that she deliberately stays at the office late so Donn can be asleep when she gets home!? Well there you have it, the answer to our question of why she would be working so late. Unreal.

    • kotagirl29 says:

      Smompy, I have to respectfully disagree with you on a couple of points. First, being on a telephone and computer all day is hard work. It may not be physically hard, but it is mentally demanding and draining. I have worked as a telemarketer for Kirby and a health survey taker and believe me, when your shift is done you are exhausted. Second, not all Mothers love their kids, Susan Smith, Shaquan Duley, Andrea Yates, Casey Anthony (allegedly) and Lashanda Armstrong to name a few who killed their kids. I recently read an article that stated as many as 600 Mothers kill their children every day. Yes, Vicki can be monumentally annoying, but compared to some people (Shill, LuMann, Kookoo, and Beavershop) she isn’t that bad.

      • Smompy says:

        Kota, I agree that working on a phone or computer can be draining. I’ve done it. I didn’t say, and wouldn’t say, that working on a phone or a computer is not draining, or that it’s always easy to do. I also never said that selling insurance can’t be a hard job. What I said was that what Vicki is doing does not make her the “hardworking” woman she paints herself as. She stays on the phone and computer ALL the time, even when she’s at dinner or the movies with family or friends, and she does this because she WANTS to do it. It’s not out of need. And she wants to do it because by constantly hovering over others, namely her many employees or “reps”, she might make a few more pennies than she would if she left them alone. It’s certainly not a job requirement for her to be unavailable to her friends and family for at least sixteen hours each day. The woman is rich by now, for God’s sake. And even though I have had some draining phone and computer jobs myself, it’s a simple fact that those types of jobs will never nearly as hard to do the job done by manual laborers, or school custodians, or nurses, or store clerks, etc, etc. There are plenty of “hard jobs” in this world. On any realistic scale, Vicki’s job simply doesn’t rank.

        On the mother loving thing, of course there are bad mothers in the world, and there will always be some mothers who don’t show love to their children. I’ve known a few myself. What I said, and I stand by this, is that the fact that Vicki seems to love her own children is not enough of an accomplishment to rate any real admiration. So she loves her kids. And?

    • VAgirl says:

      Vicki isn’t even in the same league as Jill.

    • Wicked says:

      I agree with you a hundred percent!!! Vicki is disgusting.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      i couldnt have said it better myself
      Hate her like poison

  30. Kelly Anne says:

    As I am doing my shopping for the day, I pass by Bed, Bath, and Beyond and Jill’s face is plastered of a sign outside of the store promoting her bedding line and other bedding lines. I wanted to vomit…her smile was the fakest thing I’ve ever seen.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Augh. I just watched the latest episode again. Between the bus scene with Kelly and the Lumann bullying scene at the anti-bullying event, I’m seething!

      I even noticed that Lumann said while commenting on Kelly’s fake revelation, “It was a moment I didn’t expect.” Sure it was, Lumann. Do you mean the moment Jill told you this was going to happen? Very telling.

      The way Jill was fake reading to pretend to not hear the conversation while The Beavs sat there (as usual) with her mouth gaping open. Too damn much! Jill’s agenda this season:

      1. Save Kelly
      2. Destroy Ramona

      AND… The nerve of Lumann to go on about manners and how there is a time and a place for everything and then go off about Ramona not wanting to share her designer, calling her bitchy several times at the anti-bullying event like that. I’m sorry I know all of this has been discussed, I’m just so disgusted. Good for Ramona for calling her out about picking a fight and telling her to stop. Lumann’s behavior this episode is unforgivable.

  31. vilzvet says:

    Lynn’s Oprah episode is just starting! Looks great so far, Lynn where were you sitting? What a huge audience.

  32. This person only follows Jill and Kelly on Twitter. They are a little upset that Bethenny is on the cover of Forbes magazine. The tweet about “poor Bobby” not being featured on the cover of Forbes magazine cracked me up. LOL

    rogerdodger8: @Jillzarin How could Bethenny be on Forbes cover when your poor Bobby has never been on the cover? Bobby deserves so much more respect.

    rogerdodger8 : @Jillzarin Is Forbes magazine a spoof? They can’t be serious putting Bethenny on the cover. This Bethenny mania has gotten crazy. No?

    rogerdodger8: @kellybensimon Is Forbes magazine a spoof? They can not be serious putting Bethenny on the cover. This Bethenny mania has gotten crazy. No?

  33. kotagirl29 says:

    I don’t understand how anyone could give Gretchen a pass on her behavior last night. She was acting like a total bitch. Complaining that no one went to see HER while JEFF was in the hospital. Number one, they barely knew her or Jeff so why would they go visit a stranger? Number two, why would anyone go visit her when Jeff was the one in the hospital? Sorry, but that doesn’t make sense to me. I have been in the ER more times than I care to think about and I find there is always plenty of time to talk text and whatever between the time you are brought in and an IV started and the time something is actually happening. I think Vicki was sending pictures of the IV to Tamra because everyone claimed it was B.S. According to both Vicki and Tamra’s blogs Tamra wanted to go to the hospital but Vicki told her to wait. I think it is up to the person in the hospital to decide if they want visitors or not. Vicki also stated in her blog that she had minor symptoms for two months but did not go to the doctor but that afternoon she started bleeding quite heavily and had to go. I doubt very much that she wanted to start bleeding rectally just to avoid attending the “Alexis Cooch-er” launch lunch. Although I think I would rather bleed out of every orifice than attend any event with ‘Retchin’ and Cooch-er are at. I also couldn’t understand why Cooch-er was so mad about Tamra interrupting her party by texting and leaving the table. Didn’t she just do the same thing at Peggy’s when Taliban Jim didn’t come with her and Retchin was comforting her the whole night? I just don’t understand how their minds work. I guess it is okay for them to behave however they want, but everyone else should be drawn and quartered for doing the same.

    Sorry Rant over!!!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      kotagirl, I ~heart~ you! I said the same things in about 12 separate comments above, but obviously not as well as you did. I should just save myself the time and wait for your posts.

      I also think the other ladies didn’t feel like Gretchen needed much comforting since she was out sleeping with another man and partying while Jeff was sick.

      On the other blog, someone called A’s clothing “cooch-tour.” Love it!

      • kotagirl29 says:


        • ihearttalavera says:

          i also ~heart~ your dog. Love the pic. I meant to tell you that yesterday. What a cutie!!!

          • kotagirl29 says:

            Thanks. That is the youngest of the four dogs. Her name is Bella. She is turning four in August. I will be rotating pictures of all the dogs so everyone can see my babies.

            • ihearttalavera says:

              Is this a puppy pic of her? She is just adorable. Can’t wait to see the others.

              • kotagirl29 says:

                No, I think my son took it in February. She isn’t a very tall dog, but she is SOLID. She has the cutest face. I will try to get one closer to her so you can see her eyes. She has beautiful eyes; it looks like she is wearing brown eyeliner.

                • ihearttalavera says:

                  I was going to comment on her eyes. She has those big, brown human-like eyes. I would never be able to discipline her or tell her no. She would run my house and life.

                  • kotagirl29 says:

                    She was the last one to come into the pack and she was a baby (her Mom’s family never had her fixed) so she was going to be put down unless someone took her she’s 1/2 pit bull, 1/2 boxer. Not a popular breed, but coming into the house with three older dogs and me as the Alpha she is the best behaved of them all. All I have to do is growl her name and she stops, drops, and stays. She rolls over and shows everyone she meets her belly. Although she does think she really is my baby. Her favorite place to sleep is with her head curled into my neck. And if not she has to be touching me.

                    • ihearttalavera says:

                      Awww! Pit bulls get a bad rap, but I’ve been around some real sweeties. Boxers are the biggest babies of all. Bella sounds like a very special young lady. 🙂

                    • kotagirl29 says:

                      Thanks. I think so.

    • dsc60 says:

      during peggy’s dinner party, gretchen was complaining about the other ladies laughing at alexis for crying. let’s see, she was crying supposedly because jim wasn’t there with her (even though the next episode they are in Texas and alexis is having a blast without him – not a tear shed). compare that to gretchen saying vicki was stealing the moment from alexis and THAT’S why she went to the hospital and complaining because tamra was worried about her and trying to get info regarding her best friend having to have surgery. which is worse? i’d say gretchen being a hypocrite is an understatement. and this is just the most recent example.

      • kotagirl29 says:

        Hear, hear!

      • ihearttalavera says:

        That is interesting. How is it that A was so upset at Peggy’s DINNER to be without her husband, but so incredibly happy for an OVERNIGHT stay in Texas? I really think they had a huge fight that night and divorce was discussed. Her comments about him being her best friend and not knowing how to live without him didn’t make any sense.

    • If you had it like this says:

      OMG Kotagirl. Your point about the Jesus Barbie interrupting Peggy’s party and Gretchen making a big deal and going after her in right on point!!

    • historykc says:

      Completely agree!

  34. quincyil says:

    Well, tonight is NJ. Last week, Lynn’s blog had an incredible number of hits. I think people found this place and they will be back for more of Lynn’s comments on the other shows.

    I am really excited about the NY girls going to Marrakesh for three episodes. I can over look their bickering if you let me see that ancient city. Lynn will pay attention to their interaction, but I am hoping for a glimpse of the Atlas Mountains.

    I like Middle Eastern people and places. Sometimes, I forget that my husband comes from the other side of the planet and these shows remind me that he is exotic and interesting too..

    We met a guy from Korea not long ago and I turned to my husband and said, “Wow, he was born in Asia!” My husband did not miss a beat when he said, “Yes, he and about 3.5 billion people were born there. LOL.

    • Nancy says:

      How did you and your husband meet?
      (if you don’t mind)

      • AZ Girl says:

        My vision of Q meeting her husband: She is alone in the university library catching up on “Freud, Jung and animal husbandry”… Q looks up and he is there at the end of the stacks…flipping through a medical journal….their eyes meet…..ahh love…..

      • quincyil says:

        Blind date. He has a classmate at Tehran Univerity Med School who was a plastic surgery resident at Grant Hospital in Chicago where I was first a nurse’s aid and eventually the weekend lab tech who did the micro plating. My grandfather was the President of the Board of the Hospital so my husband’s classmate decided to ask me out. He was a player and the nurses warned me so I told him to go away. He pestered me and once touched my inappropriately in an elevator when I was holding a tray full of morning urines and could not stop him. So… I told him I would never go out with him, but I told him to have his best friend on the planet call me and I would go out with him. I was shocked to get a call from my future husband telling me that he was that guy’s good friend and that he was told I was nice and would go out with him on a date. That was March 21, 1972, the Iranian New Year.

        He was nice and he was the number one student in the Iranian national exams going into to college and first in his med school class of 700 doctors. He is not quite 2 inches shorter than I am. My 12 year old sister at that time asked me if I could find someone taller and I told her that I could not find someone smarter.

        • AZ Girl says:

          Amen to that… my theory as off but 30 plus years later all is happy is Q-land and that is all that matters.

          • quincyil says:

            I think blind dates are a great way to meet men. My husband’s family thought I looked like Sophia Loren back then. LOL.. I kid you not. I am Irish, not Italian. LOL

        • Nancy says:

          Have you kept in touch with “elevator man”?
          I agree blind dates are the best. I’m glad to hear you listened to the nurses. Smart woman 🙂

          • quincyil says:

            He is in Beverly Hills California and probably knows Paul Nassif. He married an Iranian woman, but is still a player.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          What a great ending to your story. I think God must have given you the temperament he did for it to end so well and happy. If this were my story, it would have ended with a doctor covered in urine. 🙂

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Can’t wait for NJ! I really liked Melissa last week. I’m hoping her pop star ambitions don’t turn me on her. I have enough hatred bubbling up still from watching Luann last week. I want to like at least ONE person from NJ!

      • kotagirl29 says:

        I like Kathy. Her family seemed pretty “normal” last week and she got major points with me being more concerned about the kids than being in the middle of the fight. She didn’t seem like she was dying to be in the spotlight. Hopefully she stays that way. I actually like all the housewives in NJ with the exception of Teresa. She has more faults than I have the time or energy to list.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          With all of the drama last week, I completely forgot about Kathy. I really liked her and her husband. There is hope! Something about Caroline bugs me. I can’t put my finger on why. I go back and forth about my feelings for Jacqueline. Ditto on Teresa.

          • Nancy says:

            Caroline is a thug in a cocktail dress.

            • ihearttalavera says:

              Bingo! Very female mobster. Godmother, if you will.

              • Rabble Rouser says:

                Caroline pissed me off tonight. Teresa flips out and acts like a banshee and does everything short of throwing a bush at someone. But Mama Manzo storms up to Kathy and gives out to her.

                I get that the Brownstone is their families place of business, but I am sure it’s not the first time a voice was raised there.

                I don’t seem to remember her having empathy for the business owners of the last place the posh fashion show was that her thugette niece and friend went berserk in.

      • Suzieq says:

        I love how different all of our opinions r on all the HW franchises!! Throughout this whole OC blog I was agreeing with u and u were with me….then switch over to NJ and we r completely opposite (couldnt stand Melissa)!!
        I just think its great that we can all agree and disagree respectfully with each other here. 🙂
        And like I said before….we all know we have a warm and loving blog home when it comes to NY and hating the brunettes!! Lol

        • ihearttalavera says:

          Amen sister! I’ve been thinking the same thing while reading all of the different opinions all day. Whenever I hear that someone likes Jill or whoever I don’t like, I always wonder WHAT are those people thinking, so this blog gives us all insight to each other’s opinions and I’m thankful for that.

          I think it’s highly possible I will turn on Melissa this week or next. I may have just been so excited to see T and her Gorilla husband get called out on all of their crap, I could have been blinded by that last week.

          Besides kotagirl reminded me that there is still Kathy to like and I’m embarrassed to say this, but I didn’t totally hate Luann until this week. So don’t give up hope on me hating Melissa just yet. Hahahhaha!

        • Cynth says:

          IA about Melissa. I can’t stand her. I’m also not sure about Kathy. I do think she loves the spotlight, she’s just not as obvious. People seemed to love her husband, I thought he was a bit of a creeper.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            But a creeper in a funny character way, not a creeper in a slimy Taliban Jim Jones way. I think I’m okay with that.

            I thought of the Jim Jones thing today. Alexis is drinking his koolaid. Poor thing.

          • mamecastle says:

            Melissa is the devil. Nobody is very likable…… However, I LOVE Kathy’s husband, Rich! Awesome! A goofball & a character, I hope he gets waaaaay more face time.

  35. AZ Girl says:

    Jill tweeted Lady GaGa about bullying. Yes, Jill, Lady GaGa knows who you are. Right

    • Nancy says:

      I’m telling you AZgirl, she’s loosing it.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I think she should tweet Justin Bieber too, he has so many followers he needs his own servers for twitter. Hopefully, Justin will follow her so they can DM each other. I am sure she has some handy advice for him on how to break into the Aussie Tween Girl Market.

      • AZ Girl says:

        Looking back a day on tweets I guess someone told Jill that Lady GaGa was following her. Someone needs have a talk with Lady Gaga.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Is Lady GaGa REALLY following her?

          • AZ Girl says:

            That is what someone tweeted to her. I am not on twitter so I go by what I find googling Jill’s account.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              I checked lady gaga’s twitter, she is following over 120k+ ppl.There is no way I am going to look for Jill Zarin in that pile.

      • quincyil says:

        I bet Jill would love to know you Nancy. I think she had a dream of being a skater. You could give her lessons for Skating with the Stars.

        • Nancy says:

          I’ll leave that up to Johnny Weir thank-you very much!
          I went on the “Ask Gloria” site and asked her if she felt like getting her money back for Jill’s skating lessons?

          I didn’t get a reply.

    • Smompy says:

      LMAO! That’s just too funny…what an ego!

  36. Lavalady says:


    A dog named Dozer saw a half marathon race go by his house over the weekend and decided to join in. He ran almost 2 hours, right up to the finish line. He even got a medal. Everyone who was running near him thought he belonged to someone else. He was reunited with his owners after the race. I wish I knew how to post links, but if you google Dozer marathon dog, you should be able to see the story. It was on MSNBC this morning.

    • kotagirl29 says:

      That sounds like something my dog Bella would do. We call her “The People Whore” the rest are just too damn lazy.

      • Lavalady says:

        The video on U Tube of him running across the finish line was so adorable. He really thought he was part of the race. But he broke through his invisible fence to join in, and that’s a no no.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Oh my gosh. That’s hysterical. You wonder what goes through their little heads. Love this.

  37. AZ Girl says:

    Watching the preview clips and Kim G better NOT have any more camera time. She is nuts and I am pissed about what she has done to ROH blog. Look at the clip and Kim has “crazy” eyes. At the end she makes a comment about Teresa’s butt. Well we saw Kim’s butt on a stripper pole and YIKES!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I could not stand that woman. Her and that creepy guy that Danielle used as a bodyguard were just so gross. They made the show so dark, you may as well be watching Hoarders or Intervention.

      I went to the ROH blog and read about all of that. I’m pissed too, because I didn’t get a chance to enjoy that blog before she f’ed it. That is one crazy story.

      • jeepers1941 says:

        Hey I kinda liked Danny……..in a kinda wild and crazy way! We even exchanged a couple of emails to each other, not a bad fella really.

    • klmh says:

      You and me both. ROH is a joy.

  38. bengalbaby says:

    I replayed last nights OC episode a couple of times I wanted to be sure of what I was seeing. At Alexis’s fashion show her back looked bruised to me in 2-3 spots! Did anyone else notice this? Maybe Jim really does belong to the Taliban.

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  40. Amber...Real Wife says:

    RE: Gretch & Vick

    If the show would’ve been on the other foot, would the mean girls that is Vicki and Tamra not have had a field day trying to diagnos the illness, cause and if it was a true emergency? Of course! And anyone who thinks Vicki or Tamra would be serious or concerned in that situation is fooling themselves. They would’ve been in stitches. Imagine the gutter humor of Trampra if it’d been Alexis or Gretchen, accusing them of being melodramatic, needing attention, too much anal sex, and their lovers of roughness. You guys know it’s true. It was only because it was Vicki that Trampy somewhat behaved, yet still made the comment of bleeding out her ass/butt.

    I love Gretchen as she’s a beauty and a crazy girl even if her laugh can get annoying but she is enjoying herself so that makes it okay. Wish she’d drop the zero and get herself a hero though. However when she’s wrong she’s wrong. She was wrong. She should’ve left all that for her TH. 🙂

    • dsc60 says:

      you could be right, but gretchen was brutal in her talking heads when tamra and vicki were making comments about alexis crying because jim wasn’t at peggy’s dinner. that makes gretchen a hypocrite. if you dish it out, you’d best be able to take it. also, if the shoe had been on the other foot, tamra and vicki would have got as much grief or more about it than gretchen is getting.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      You are so right..I cant even imagine what horrible things Tamara would be saying if Gretchen or Alexis were in Vicky’s place…such a true thought!!!

    • kotagirl29 says:

      I don’t see it. Maybe. But I think Tamra and Vicki would have given them the benefit of the doubt until more information could be gotten. If someone is visibly upset like that, texting and taking multiple phone calls about it, I think they would have believed that person was really ill and not assumed the worst.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        LOL We are talking about Tamra and Vicki right? No somehow I think those two would find humor in other’s pain. Didn’t they get a giggle over Alexis’ short sale? I also remember them laughing outside of the restroom at Peggy’s dinner. Even if Alexis was being ridiculous, did TrashyT have to eavesdrop with such malicious glee at the door as CommanderVick stood watch? No, they could’ve remained at the table and continued to poke fun at the missing Alexis or keep laughing at her assistant. So they would never laugh at someones misery until they know the facts…. um I’ll agree to disagree. 🙂

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I am sure Tamra and Vickie would have had something to say if the shoe was on the other foot. But, I am not then going to turn around and say that either one of them is a beautiful person.

      Gretchen hooked up with a dying old man in an attempt to get his money. She was caught in a lie about dating Jay while this was happening.

      She’s not a good person, just because someone talks shit through pearl white teeth, it doesn’t mean that it’s going to smelly minty fresh.

  41. Malinia says:

    Catherine Ommanney catommanney
    I keep being asked why I was so pissed off on #WWHL..Check out the funny @LynnNChicago blog as we spoke about the #cattitude! @BravoAndy

    • ramona_coaster says:

      Cat o gave Lynn a shout out on Twitter. Awesome! Cat needs to go on RHONYC just to harass Luann.

  42. Pantry viewer says:

    What is bravo doing with NY this season? I just don’t get the direction they’ve allowed this to go. Why are they allowing the petty, disgusting and vile NZ to have a platform to eviscerate Ramona? Why bother luman to breathe air, much less bore us to tears? Why pretend Kelly is not a mentally ill bully? This show bores me to tears and infuriates me that these petty, fake, jealous airbags are given airtime. What a waste of a show. Used to never miss it, but just now got up the stomach to watch last week’s. And slack jaw Cindy was the best they could do? What happened to this show and why are they doing what they’re doing? Ugh.

    • RHONY is a disaster this season. I can see why it was postponed.They are going to have to make a lot of cast changes to keep this show on the air.

    • Smompy says:

      The direction the NYC gals are headed? I think it was probably a gamble on the producers’ part, because they didn’t know what to do with the HWs they had left…I mean Bethenny’s leaving did change the dynamic there. A lot. I also think that Bravo’s producers tend to follow trends, and they read a lot into certain data that they’ve collected. For instance, RHoNJ is crazy violent like some kind of low-budget godfather movie, but it get’s great ratings, so they prolly figure, why not make the NYC girls have a series of brawls on the air too? I guess they can’t wrap their minds around the idea that the NJ and NYC franchises might have very types kinds of fans and therefore what works for one won’t necessarily work for the other.

  43. Furalis says:

    Wow Lynn you just keep them coming. You are so so good and on top of everything. Thank you for the blogs and this community.

    Gretchen – I feel bad for because she has her heart in Slade, but realizes that a life with him will be hard. What to do?

    Slade – What is his problem on not finding a job? I think he finds himself above jobs and that is not good. I wanted to go to New Zealand for a month and took a part time job at a Dunkin Donuts for a year. Well that was the most amazing trip I ever took. If you really want something you will find a way to do it. This is the USA and nothing should be beneath you.

    On another note: I have no children and have my 3 year old nephew and 6 month old neice staying with me for a week as Mom and Dad go to NY. Does anyone have any idea’s how to keep them occupied home? I have day trips planned but not sure for down time and need help. Any advice would be welcome.

    Thanks to everyone here and Lynn and Q. This is a great blog…..

    • kotagirl29 says:

      Coloring, bubble baths, building blocks, reading to them, pots, pans, bowls, and big spoons are always fun. Outside time if it is warm enough. Dress-up and taking pictures. The 6 month old is hard, but big building blocks and pots and pans would be okay for her.

      • kotagirl29 says:

        Most kids like to make lots of noise and the messier the better. Go out and play in the dirt, make mud pies. Give them a big empty box or a laundry basket to play with (or in). Sometimes the most simple things work the best.

      • Nancy says:

        Great! Can you come to California and babysit my husband?

    • boston02127 says:

      I have no children either but I teach dance to kids. I find gum, coins and
      simple bribery works well.

      • Furalis says:

        Can you elaborate on the bribery? Too funny. I am searching for a CD for childrens songs to play in the car. He loves to sing Twinkle Twinkle and the bus goes round and round. Any suggestions?

        • Furalis says:

          excuse me wheels on the bus go round and round.

        • boston02127 says:

          I bribe them with gum, certs, anything I have. If they listen, they get a piece of gum or candy a quater. The older the kids the tougher they are thou. They want dollars!

        • boston02127 says:

          You can also go to the library and get some CD’s with Elmo or Barney.

          • Furalis says:

            Perfect didn’t even think of that.

            • FlowerPower says:

              Sandra Boynton’s kids’ music is wonderful too! The library might have Blue Moo or Philadelphia Chickens…she has some others as well. (If you use itunes, they have Sesame Street music and maybe Boynton too).

              Also, Target is a great place for inexpensive coloring books, stickers, etc. I stock up for my granddaughter.

              Sidewalk chalk is fun too if you have a driveway or sidewalk.

              • ihearttalavera says:

                Oh sidewalk chalk. Fun! This sounds way better than my work week. They are lucky to have such a thoughtful Auntie. Good luck and have fun!

    • neroes says:

      Furalis, please don’t give coins to the little ones. We have too many children coming into the emergency room that have swallowed them. Little ones put everything in their mouths and up their noses. My kids used to love big empty boxes. You can even take two chairs and drape a sheet over it for a tent. If it rains have a picnic inside.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Hi there,

      Go to the store and get some Auqadoodles. It’s the perfect thing for little kids to keep them quiet while being artistic without having to worry that your furniture/walls are going to get drawn on.

      I even bought a travel version of them to keep my 2yr old and 4yr old quiet on car journeys.

      I know it also sounds a bit archaic given all the bells and whistles (literally and figuratively) that there is now with kids toys ect. But bring out the pots and pans and wooden spoons and let them bang away. If the 6 month old is big enough to sit up, it’s something they will enjoy while they imitate what they see. Let big brother or Aunt bang and tap- and then it’s their turn.

      • kotagirl29 says:

        I gave the pots and pans advice too. My son loved banging pots and pans and my 18 month old nephew has HIS cupboard in the kitchen. He takes all the pots out bangs on them and then climbs into the cupboard and plays. He keeps his “toolbox” under the bathroom sink. He’s so freakin’ cute!!!

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Isn’t it funny how sometimes are just timeless. Or how even the simplest things give kids joy, we bought the girls a fisher price ride on Cadillac escalade (it was VERY expensive- and was some of their Christmas money from Nai Nai andPapa plus birthday money paid for it-I would never spend that much on a ‘just because’ present) and while they do like it, we had a hard time tearing them away from the box it came in.

          • kotagirl29 says:

            Yup! I told her to give them a big old empty box or an empty laundry basket. Kids don’t have to have elaborate things to be entertained. Imagination is a great thing. Some of my sons friends have such a hard time finding something to do that isn’t plugged into the wall. I followed my Mom’s footsteps and when the weather is nice his butt is outside. He can always find something to do and he would rather be outside having fun than inside playing video games or watching TV. I think some parents do their kids a disservice by plunking them down in front of the TV. They don’t develop their imagination.

            • Furalis says:

              Thank you to everyone for such great things to do with the kids. People here are amazing!

  44. Pantry viewer says:

    And Jill is such a bad actress. You can see her script running through her head. Why allow the bad acting. It’s like a bad telanovella.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Totally!!!! I was watching her face in the back of the van. She has to clinch her mouth shut so she doesn’t move her mouth to the words she scripted for everyone. Hate!

    • ramona_coaster says:

      Yup, when she says she forgot her notes, she really means her script. Could you imagine if she produced a show about herself? Barf!

  45. If you had it like this says:

    Lynn, I think you are getting so many hits and so much promotion from wives like Cat, that you need to get IHJZ.com or lynnnchicago.com and point your blog to your website so that you can start getting advertising and making money! I think wordpress doesn’t let you do advertising but I think you can just use wordpress as your design template, so to speak and get your own advertising on your own dotcom. On one of my husband’s websites we use wordpress as our template. He’s an artist and doesn’t do advertising but I wonder if you couldn’t do that. I know you can on blogspot. I created a blog and then pointed it to our website. They do let you get ads. Either way you need your very own domain! IMHO. 🙂

    • Furalis says:

      I totally agree. I am constantly coming here.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Thanks! I am still researching the different options. Real City Housewife just started her own site and she’s giving me a lot of info. Imajustsaying who runs TVTime101 is helping me as well. I appreciate it and I agree! 🙂 I’m so grateful to all of you who come here regularly! xoxo Love, Lynn

    • Error404 says:

      I have two woodpress blogs that get like no hits but I have ads on both so I still make a few bucks. If I had Lynne’s traffic I’d be rich! LoL

  46. kotagirl29 says:

    For those who have been keeping track. Leo had a Dr. Appointment this afternoon. My sister just called to let us know that he got a good report today. His incision site is healing well, blood pressure is normal, his sugar has been 115 – 170 each of the four times he checks it daily, and his heart rate is good. He still has double-vision, but he says he thinks it is getting a little better.

    • Furalis says:

      Sounds like he is moving forward. Really good to hear.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Wonderful Kotagirl. Keep us posted.

    • klmh says:

      So happy he is feeling better.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      That is such good news. Thanks for the update. I always want to ask, but don’t want to risk upsetting you. I was even telling my Mom about Uncle Leo this weekend. She was laughing at me because I totally avoid all social media, but I told her I found this blog and love it. Then I said, “That reminds me. I need to check in and see if kotagirl29 left any updates on Uncle Leo.” My mom, dad, and husband we’re all looking at me like I was completely crazy. It was very funny.

  47. boston02127 says:

    Subject: Money bags.
    This is the only time we will see this and live this event.
    Calendar for July 2011 (United States)

    This year July has 5 Fridays, 5 Saturdays and 5 Sundays. This happens once every 823 years. This is called money bags. So forward this to your friends and money will arrive within 4 days. Based on Chinese Feng Shui. The one who does not forward…..will be without money.

  48. Mimisfbay says:

    Okay, OT but my grandson, age 11, was trying to decide what book to get for his report. On the way to the elevator I was asking different questions about books and he said “Mena, I know I don’t want to read about a whore”. Stopped in my tracks, collected myself and asked why not. He replied ” I just don’t like whore movies”. We got into the elevator and I taught him how to pronounce HORROR. Still laughing and thought I would share.

    Just hanging out with kids is so much fun!

  49. NJ Bev says:

    anyone watching RHONJ??
    where is everyone?

  50. NMhousewife says:

    Teresa sounds a little ungrateful to Caroline, and Caroline is on her side at this point. I’d be pissed with T if I was Caroline after seeing her talking head.

  51. boston02127 says:

    Joey & Melissa are the new hat couple.

  52. Kats2 says:

    OMG Did Teresa just stand up to Caroline! She basically said, STFU Caroline mind yo business.

  53. Amy says:

    My hubby asked me where Vicki’s bleeding was, and I could not help saying “that would be the butt Bob!” the hubs quickly called me an an asshole lol. I said, “yep, that too!” I really must be stopped. I need help. Lol
    Ps my hubsters name is NOT Bob.

    • Nancy says:

      That still makes me laugh!

    • Nancy says:

      I went with my husband yesterday and waited while he did his rounds…to make a long story short I answered him with “Thats the point you dumb drag Queen!” You should have seen the looks I got from the nurses. I have a feeling I’ll be waiting for him at home alone from now on.

  54. Kats2 says:

    It’s like watching primates or cave people communicate. I swear every other sound is a grunt.

  55. Cynth says:

    Oh it’s on. Don’t we usually have a chat section for new episodes? That threw me off.

  56. HD says:

    Was Kim G talking about Teresa?

  57. boston02127 says:

    Everytime I see Kim G. she reminds me of the Grandma on the Tweety Bird cartoon.
    And no, I haven’t watched it in yrs.

  58. NJ Bev says:

    I really don’t like the one shouldered Red
    dress on Caroline.

  59. HD says:

    Is it just me or does Gia seem over all of this?

  60. NMhousewife says:

    I don’t believe T when she says she wishes Joey was there celebrating with them. She never had them before on previous seasons, and it doesn’t sound like Melissa and Joey have a problem with the cameras. She is really trying to convince us she is the victim in all this. I don’t believe it….not to say I think Joey and Melissa’s behavior has been so great either. They talk too much about T.

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      ITA Too little too late! 3 years later and now she misses him and want to include him? Piss off termite!

  61. Kats2 says:

    They left the baby on the floor, wtf

  62. HD says:

    I think it is so funny Kim G is dressed like a cat and then Melissa has on that very sexy cat costume. LOL!

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Mel is the sexy cat, GrannyKim is the spaded, declawed cat that sits on the window sill.

  63. Kats2 says:

    The little baby looks like a lesbian gym teacher

  64. HD says:

    Oh damn! Every conversation is “Teresa’s gonna be there” “Melissa’s gonna be there” “What are you gonna do?” “What are you gonna do?”

    Okay…old already!

  65. Kats2 says:

    Can’t stand the kims

    • shellbell225 says:

      No kidding. Go away!!!! Such desperate fame whores! UGH

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Why the hell did they bring them back? Kim G looks like a old fool in that cat get-up!

  66. NMhousewife says:

    Teresa and her scratchy voice, “Caarrolliine!”

  67. Cynth says:

    How many times is Kathy gonna use her mother card? Yea, yea, we got it the first time. So did the cameras. You got to the children first.

    • nathania says:

      I loved it.

      It got Teresa right where she lives. I don’t know which ‘ella’ or ‘anna’ it was that almost crawled down the stairs last week while she was getting her hair done. She was nauseating when she talked about ‘what kind of mother I am’. The kind of mother she claims to be doesn’t spend her family twelve million dollars in debt and then humiliate them with a public auction while on a tv show (nor resort to the violence she does. Teresa rationalizes EVERYTHING she does, it’s nice to have a foil for that.

      I was watching that “Extreme couponing” show the other day, and those are the kinds of mothers teresa claims to be, for real. Most of them have at least as many if not more kids, they know their budgets down to a penny, and they manage to make a whole other salary by their savings on groceries. Most if not all of them had come upon some hardship which is why they started their couponing in the first place, and most of them devote full time hours to it. Teresa is nothing but a great big disgusting phony, I’m glad she’s getting her comeuppance this season. Her and Caroline both make me sick, they are just competing for the title of THE FAKEST.

  68. boston02127 says:

    Can anyone read what Teresa’s necklace says?

  69. Kats2 says:

    Danielle must be sitting back and laughing

  70. shellbell225 says:

    Jacqueline looks good though

    • Katiecoo says:

      I find her nose disturbing. It looks like a really stylized nose job…it’s actually creepy to look at. But she’s lost the baby weight and in that respect looks good. I just generally find her pretty *tofu* and although her daughter is horrible, she also reminds me of the stereotypical woman who gets a “do over” , starts a new family with a new husband, new babies and neglects the one she SHOULD be raising. I’ve always gotten that impression of her.

    • Cynth says:

      IA. She doesn’t need to wear a two piece bikini if she’s uncomfortable right now. There are so many cute one pieces.

      • shellbell225 says:

        I agree about her nose and her parenting skills. Look at the Kim’s! How embarrassing!!!

    • cabbie413 says:

      she does? She has a really long face and is her top lip botoxed? No one on this show is exceptional in the beauty department, but they do make an effort, which always helps.

  71. Katiecoo says:

    ****Commercial Break**** Skinnygirl Margarita found at Tempe, AZ Costco for $10.59 a bottle! Clink!

  72. WindyCityWondering says:

    Toooo many commercials!

  73. Kats2 says:

    Please tell me they are all going to make Teresa look bad and all we’ve been saying will be proven……..That’s where it looks like we’re heading.

  74. NJ Bev says:

    Teresa is late again and Jacquiline is wearing
    another one shouldered dress on WWHL!!

  75. HD says:

    Does Kim G not realize how old she looks?

    • Delighted says:

      HD, I thought she looked better than last season. Should I put on my glasses? I also think Caroline looks pretty good..

      • HD says:

        I think Kim G look old. Maybe her attitude is overriding any improvements she has done to her face.

        Caroline looks good. She has truly slimmed down a lot.

  76. boston02127 says:

    The fashion show looks like a continuation of Halloween.

  77. Kats2 says:

    Big Al does not look that good this season is he sick?

  78. Cynth says:

    get over yourself Melissa

  79. boston02127 says:

    Thankfully we have know it all Carolinebacker to narrate the show. Ugh.

  80. HD says:

    Why the eff won’t people leave Teresa and her brother alone and let them make up! Damn stay out of it! They will make up in their own time and I guarantee they would have already made up in people stayed out of it! Sheesh!

    • Cynth says:

      Kathy wants to look like the peacemaker. She’s all quiet while she unleashes her bomb, an implication that T is a bad mom…as if Teresa was gonna take that well. Someone likes drama.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        Yes they all LOVE drama including Carolinebacker as moderator and narrator. But the implication of neglect only came after TMAN was accusing Kathy of being MIA for Melissa. When Kathy said she removed her kids, Tree said they were old enough, that’s when she mentioned grabbing the Guidice’s kids too. THAT is when Terrorista took off like a rocket!

  81. Smompy says:

    Damn, dese are some klassy ass fashion models!

  82. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Teresa is the shit starter! O M G

    She takes off like a rocket and there is no stopping. Even in a lull she ramps it back up! Her mother immediately went on the attack when at the christening that old lady was running after Juicey and Tree and no one was looking after the kids! Teresa is a bitch!

  83. NJ Bev says:

    Teresa has severe anger management problems.
    holy crap! you’d think this bi.tch would know better
    by now! how GD stupid can she be?

  84. HD says:

    Teresa “LIKE COME-IN.” LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Crying!!! I actually spit my drink out!!! COME-IN! LMAO!!! You mean cumin that goes in chili and whatnot?

  85. boston02127 says:

    Best part of the show was the Ashton Kutcher commercial.

  86. Nancy says:

    Teresa looks like a drag queen on WWHL.
    The spray can has got to go. It looks stupid.

  87. rolla says:

    Teresa looks depressed(overwhelmed?) on wwhl. I kinda do feel bad for her.

    • NJ Bev says:

      she didn’t remember that her brother called her

      • HD says:

        I agree. She looks like the wind is out of her sails. I am not sure if I should feel sorry for her or satisfied that she is getting her just desserts.

        • rolla says:

          I never thought she was so malicious to deserve that. At least on the show. I did have problems with her temper though.

        • NJ Bev says:

          yeah, I’m really curious about the poll-
          I didn’t vote- haven’t a clue, I don’t like
          either of them.

    • Nancy says:

      I totally agree. She’s also hyperventilating.
      I wonder if she gets any sleep at nights.
      My heart goes out to her. She has 4 little kids 😦

    • If you had it like this says:

      I kinda think Teresa likes to behave as if nothing bothers her and she’s beyond reproach. I think she was doing her calm, fake nice act. See, ain’t I nice and they’re animals? She has always acted this way. She even says that Danielle never bothered her. I really do feel like she is still extremely bothered that her family is on the show. I’m sure she was beaming on the inside that she won the poll. It really seems to me that Melissa is a younger, slightly quicker version of Teresa. I think there’s jealousy on both their parts.

      Caroline needs to sit down. The female Godfather act is old and tired.

  88. Golden Girl says:

    Is there a chat tonight?

  89. rolla says:

    Tony & Anthony haha

  90. Malinia says:

    Theresa is winning me over this season.

    Bravo was a dick to her with this Melissa and drunk Joey crap. (Yay for that, at least it’s interesting.) BUT I have to say, I am gaining admiration for Theresa’s way of handling all of the crap she has been through, but especially now, when “REAL life” is part of the embarrassment.

    So, shoot me.

    Totally team Theresa.

    so far

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Thank God somebody else feels the same way I do..I was starting to think I was the only one…then I saw the poll results and realized i had a few others who felt the same way…

    • HeyAll says:

      I agree.

      • Malinia says:

        It’s really horrible what Bravo did to her here.

        Talk about kicking someone when they are down.

        This shit just got REAL. It is her real family. Her drunk brother and his hateful wife. How will that impact her dad who has already had a couple of heart surgeries?

        I mean, don’t get me wrong, the SHOW is much better. But the one who will be paying the price for that? Theresa.

        She seemed very brave and stoic and shell shocked. I admire the way she is trying to hold it together here. Oh and Bravo had to bring back the Kims to insult her even more?

        I felt for her.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          I think Melissa made a huge mistake by making friends with Kim G. She is a horrid woman who loves drama and LOVES to stir the pot. Melissa better watch her back with that witch!!!!

        • ms molly says:

          That’s exactly what the look on her face says. I felt for her too.

    • error404 says:

      sorry, can’t shoot you as I believe in gun control and non violence, you know, unlike Teressa!

      I will however use my mind and my voice. All of Teressa’s problems, every single one of the, are all self made. Why in the world would I ever for even a second feel sorry for her, you know, other than like “Gosh, I feel sorry for anyone born THAT stupid!” etc…

      • NJ Bev says:

        LMAO. IA
        IMO Teresa did this to herself. She’s 11 million in debt and shows up to the fashion show in Loubuton (sp) boots that probably
        cost $3500.
        Who does that and gets away with it? brass balls
        I don’t like either of them.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Seriously, the balls on the bitch. Every time they show her house, I hope the trustee is taking inventory, I keep thinking I am seeing new shit.

        • quincyil says:

          I think the Mob Wives do this too. Jill is going to ask Drita about this for us when they have lunch.

  91. SueBHoney says:

    Love TIVO! Finally caught up with OC! Wow!

    I think Gretchen is dreadful. The more I see of her, the more I dislike her. She is gaudy, immature, inappropriate, mean spirited and self absorbed. I think she should stay with Slade Slimey (not a typo)…they are completely deserving of each other. Accusing Vicki of planning her medical emergency shows just how self absorbed and immature she really is. I did not see WWHL and her “explanation” of her comments but everyone’s comments here pretty much sums it up for me. I think I used to feel sorry for her as it seemed Tamara was always beating up on her but now I’m not so sure that Gretchen was telling the truth all along. I still don’t think it was Tamara’s place to make it her goal in life to out Gretch the Wretch but I can see where Tamara was coming from. I highly dislike dishonest people and once they lie, they always lie and I have no use for liars.

    I feel bad for Vicki. I’ve always kind of liked her. She can be an annoying control freak but that seems to be very much her personality and if you are friends with someone, who take them as they are and I feel Tamara has done that with Vicki. I don’t think her working so much killed the marriage as much as the marriage was already breaking down and she escaped by working (as she stated in her blog or on the show, can’t remember which already!). You gravitate to what makes you happy and if her marriage was good and she had a happy home to come home to, she probably would have been at home. I don’t think it’s fair to blame Vicki entirely for the marriage failure as we don’t know what happens behind closed doors. And she is right in that one person can’t do the work. If she was really trying and felt that Don wasn’t reciprocating her efforts I’m sure she gave up. And when Don saw her give up, he gave up and with no one coming to the table, nothing is going to get resolved. An ugly vicious circle with a sad ending for all. I do hope that Vicki didn’t just put her marriage entirely in God’s hands as God isn’t going to swoop down and make it all well. We as humans have to put in a little effort ourselves. I don’t think Vicki has ever been insincere in her interview scenes or in what she says. I believe she honestly puts her feeling out there and tells the truth about her life so I feel her emotions were sincere and honest. I feel for her and the sad situation she finds herself in.

    I was a little miffed by Alexis’ comments about her failed event and all the drama. Is this the same person who had her own table of one in the bathroom at Peggy’s dinner party? So let me get this right…Alexis doesn’t have to behave at other people’s events but everyone needs to be on point for hers? Just making sure I’m getting this right!

    Peggy is a gossiper but other than that, I haven’t seen anything (on the show) that makes me want to throw something through my television. I like her and her husband together.

    I would hang out with Tamara! And I like her and Vicki together! They are only doing what most girls do with their girlfriends so I don’t know why they get so judged (and not in the Eddie sense!). Tamara is newly single, has what seems to be a supportive new boyfriend and she’s feeling a little bit of freedom and probably went a little overboard in some instances this season. I think she’s funny and I like her. Maybe I won’t feel that way after watching next weeks episode with Jeanna! How did Jeanna get into this mix anyway? How is Tamara’s marriage any of her business anyhow? I don’t care that she’s friends with Simon or not. Not her place to take issue with Tamara. Unless she’s gunning for a little Simon action…ewwwww….

    Can’t wait to see the reunion!

  92. NMhousewife says:

    Watching the show again. I have to say second time around I can sorta understand mayabe why T got annoyed with Caroline . Caroline was very pushy with her own comments.

  93. California35 says:

    Hi everyone – long day at work and it is only Monday – I had a lovely weekend though, and am now home enjoying some lasy tv time.

    It seems to me like Joe the brother has the same problem or whatever it is that Theresa has. The flipping the table, pounding the table, needing someone to hold them back and calm them down. For what I have seen they have been having issues with each other about jealousy or $ or who knows what, but for what I have seen so far…both side are wrong lol.

  94. WindyCityWondering says:

    I don’t like Teresa. I don’t like Melissa. I hate Joey Gorga. Caroline is a busybody know it all – not into that either. Jacq is fading into the garish wallpaper. Best part: NO Ashley!

    • California35 says:

      Lol – Im with you but still watching it. I was done with them, but am curious this season.

  95. California35 says:

    Did you guys see Asley blond? I will see if I can post the picture.

  96. NYCer says:

    Is anyone here going to watch a Manzo brothers show? Albie is cute and nice but his personality is not big enough to carry a tv show. Chris is the funny one in his family but IMO, it doesn’t go beyond his family. I don’t find him entertaining- I find him immature. The only reason I like scenes that include them is because they usually show Caroline and how much she loves her kids.
    I just feel bad because I think these kids are pursuing a reality career that won’t pan out and poor Albert needs to retire! Get them back to the brownstone! Who would even watch?

  97. Nancy says:

    Someone needs to put Kim G to sleep. And I don’t mean in a soft bed with pillows if you get my drift. She is much to old to be acting the way she does.
    To be honest I am feeling really bad for Teresa right now. Bravo should be ashamed of themselves, again.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I think there is something very wrong with Kim; in the same way that there is something wrong with Danielle. Even without the camera’s I suspect they would still be the talk of the town with their outrageous behavior.

  98. MichellefromNY says:

    K Kat was trying to HELP the situation. And Teresa threw an accusation, “well kat you ran out of there”. Ket responds, “i have to take care of my kids”. Teresa, “your kids are older they would have been fine. My kids are younger, I had to get them out of there”. Ket, “umm teresa, I’m the one who got Audriana out of there. Cue Teresa freak out. Teresa can’t handle that she left her daughter to the chaos and its her fault. She’s insulted that kathy dare insinuate that she may be a bad mother. But lets face it, we see how she treats her kids. She’s definitely not the best mother. We’ve all said many times how badly we feel for those daughters of her and how spoiled they will grow up to be

    • error404 says:

      Exactly! Teressa is Jill with more testosterone. I can’t believe how many are falling for her fake spin!

      • MichellefromNY says:

        Thank you error!! I’m feeling like I’m the only one who remembers why I hate teresa. And one of the reasons why I like melissa is because she’s finally tearing teresa down.

    • Nancy says:

      Who WAS watching the baby when Teresa went over to them in the first place?

      • Suzieq says:

        See, that’s why I like family events…..I can take my children and don’t have to be constantly with them. There’s 10 family members sitting 2 feet from them and I’m perfectly fine wandering the room without my kids stuck to my hip. I know if they start crying or something, a family member will take care of them and if I’m needed quickly, someone will come get me.

  99. WindyCityWondering says:

    Seems like Teresa is going for softer, more family centric and dare I say “mature” this season. She is playing it well against Melissa’s all that and a bag of chips. This will be interesting.

  100. Jill’s tweet about RHONJ:

    Jillzarin: I saw the pain on Theresas face. It must have felt like she wAs being ganged up on. Very sad they did this for ratings. Very sad.

  101. MichellefromNY says:

    I love that Andy is talking to Teresa like she’s the dumbest person in the world. LMAO

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Is it just me, but what was going on with Teresa’s face on WWHL. It looked like she had been chewed on by a dog and vomited on by a squirrel.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Rabble, you are so damn funny. Thanks for the laughs.

        T and J should not sit next to each other while filming. J has a very long face, and T has a very short/square face. When they are next to each other, their oddness is accentuated. It’s a little frightening.

        • Rabble Rouser says:


          Yes, you are right. The differences in their faces are much more strikingly odd when they are seated together. I think Jac is pretty but she seemed very jowly looking tonight.

  102. lillybee says:

    Caroline needs to copy Jill Z. and get her boobs reduced.

    • Malinia says:

      Except that it’s a horrible surgery and leaves you with lovely scars. Leave nature alone. Enough with the endless boob jobs.

      • klmh says:

        Not to worry. With age she’ll be able to role them up in a ball if she keeps loosing weight.

    • Nancy says:

      I couldn’t believe that she is only 48 years old. She looks so much older.
      I guess being Mrs Soprano ages you.

    • nathania says:

      they are implants. the pictures she posted from last year show her being fairly small busted when younger.

      I almost choked when she said at the reunion that “God” gave her those boobs. Just like she lost weight ‘naturally’. Caroline the Righteous, Endowed by God and Reduced by Jesus. Barf.

  103. MichellefromNY says:

    To all the people who voted for teresa–did you all forget last year?????? I mean come on!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I didn’t vote. I thought it was an impossible question. There wasn’t a
      “They both suck” option.

      • MichellefromNY says:

        Truth, neither did I. Cuz despite my disgust for teresa–which is worse than my hatred for jill believe it or not–I still think deep down melissa was wrong. But I don’t hate melissa. She’s not evil and sickly sweet like teresa. Sure melissa has family issues. I get that. But she seems genuinely sweet.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I really don’t see Melissa as sweet. I think she is just like her sisters- and they seem like bitches. It must have sucked going to high school with those girls because their would have been one of them in every grade.

          • nathania says:

            I think we are seeing her sisters after years of having dealt with Teresa. Teresa is a lunatic, that much is undeniable, and blood being thicker than water, I’m not sure this is an accurate representation of the sisters as they are in day to day life, I think it’s the sisters after three years of being mistreated by someone who should either be institutionalized or heavily medicated.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              Maybe…but there was just something about that look they all gave each other before the baptism that didn’t sit well.

              I predict we’ll see more of them..and I don’t want to.

  104. MichellefromNY says:

    Also noticed that teresa NEVER takes responsibility for her actions. She always blames everyone else

    • ihearttalavera says:

      People who never take responsibility will never change. I cannot forget all of the creditors that Tree and her crook of a husband stuck with large bills when they filed their bankruptcy. What about their families??? All because they refuse to live within their means. After that she is STILL having people to her house to do hair and make up for family events. Really?

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Her brother Joey is just like her.

      It’s Juicy’s fault he has issues with his dad.
      It’s Teresa’s fault he has issues with Juicy.

  105. MichellefromNY says:

    And how much does everyone want to bet that kim G. heard they were filming at the Posche and ran her wrinkly butt cheeks over there just to get some air time. HATE kim G.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Who also wants to bet she spent all day combing the internet looking for the perfect Teresa insults that someone else came up with.

    • quincyil says:

      The two Kims are sister in laws so it makes sense that KimG would be invited. Wait… this is NJ… families go to war… LOL

  106. ihearttalavera says:

    Red flag – You meet someone for the first time and they say, “I heard something just went on with you, what happened?” Um, what?

    • MichellefromNY says:

      ITA. Kim G is a snake. I love how she starts ranting about how she’s hotter than teresa. I mean we know teresa is ugly, but kim g, you’re no hot tamale either. And you look like you’re at least 80

      • ihearttalavera says:

        She doesn’t even try to pretend like she’s not causing problems. She is far too old to dress the way she does. I cannot believe I actually forgot this woman existed. I think I blocked it from my memory because it was too traumatic.

        • MichellefromNY says:

          She looks like a bobblehead. Her head doesn’t quite seem to be completely attached to her body, especially when she sticks her ass out in an attempt to look hot.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            Yes! I knew something looked odd. Super round face/head on a skinny, long little neck. She does look good for her age. She just needs to stop dressing like she’s in her 20’s.

  107. MichellefromNY says:

    Watching the episode over and teresa is LYING that she isn’t jealous. One of the biggest signs of jealousy is that even something as simple as your friend speaking to the object of your jealousy ticks you off. When Caroline went over to melissa and kathy to say hi and had a nice, normal conversation, Teresa decided at that moment to yell, “carolineeee” in her whiny voice. Teresa cant handle people seeing melissa in a good light because SHE wants to be the one EVERYONE likes, not melissa who is prettier, nicer, and wealthier than she

  108. MichellefromNY says:

    Thank you rabble rouser and iheartlavera for being with me to talk nj trash at this late hour (in ny at least)


  109. MichellefromNY says:

    Of all the ladies on this series who have tried to pull of the one shouldered look, melissa is the only one who doesn’t look ridiculous doing so. I think its cuz she has a very slim and petite frame which makes clothes look good.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Not to mention her age, she can definitely get away with much more than the other HW

  110. kmuellfa says:

    A couple of thoughts:
    I can’t believe some of the sympathy Tree is getting. Maybe some of us should go back and read Lynn’s old blogs to refresh our memory of why Karma is starting to bite her in the a$$. Tree, as far as I’m concerned deserves the heat.

    As for Melissa, I distinctly remember her telling her husband to “stop it” at their table at the christening. In this episode, when KG started trashing Tree, Melissa kept her mouth shut and only said that “the past is in the past.” Whatever the problem is between Tree and JG, I really have a hard time seeing Melissa as the instigator.

    I also noticed that Tree never takes any responsibility for anything, it’s everyone else’s fault, and they need to change. The “who me?” BS is irritating.

    I hope Caroline sees the light this season. The fact that she told Tree to zip it w/ the “old lady” BS (as she is only 4 yrs younger than KG) was telling, IMO.

    • MichellefromNY says:

      THANK YOU!!!! I’m only seeing melissa as being good here. Relatable with a major family issue and teresa as a sister in law. I mean, if teresa were my sister in law, you can bet I’d be acting ten times worse than melissa. At least melissa tries to keep the peace, she’s just unwilling at this point to keep being the one to smooth things over and apologize and let things go. Melissa may be selfish, spoiled, and a little conceited, but she’s at least a nice person. The other stuff just makes her camera worthy.

      • kmuellfa says:

        ITA. Any character flaws she has shown only make for good TV. She snarks on Tree, she pretty much says what we all said last year, so I don’t get the hate for Melissa.

        The fact that there are people close to Tree who don’t buy her “fabulicious” act and know she’s full of it, AND they call her on it? Melissa and Kathy both are gifts from baby Jesus and I owe them both a muffin basket.

        • kmuellfa says:

          I will say it’s early in the season, and i could end up eating my words…….

  111. Katiecoo says:

    Kim G needs to shrivel up and get off the screen. Last year it was Danielle’s “square tits” and this year Teresa’s “lopsided butt”. Come on..it’s not funny or cute, it’s just pathetic coming from this “older woman”. Blech.

  112. Suzieq says:

    I was never really a big fan if Teresa…but, I never hated her either …..just kinda didn’t care about her.
    That being said….Melissa disgusts me soooooo much, that I may actually be considered a Teresa fan now!! Lol
    There is nothing that Teresa can do bad enough that would make me like Melissa in any way!!! I may end up hating Teresa but I’m sure as hell NEVER going to like that awful Melissa!!

    • nathania says:

      what on earth has melissa done to earn the title “that awful melissa”

      just curious.

      she doesn’t seem awful to me. she seems normal.

      • quincyil says:

        Why would Teresa’s brother and his wife think the should be on Teresa’s tv show? The relatives of Teresa are out of line in their demands.

  113. VAgirl says:

    Good morning to anyone who is an early riser. My dogs are early risers this morning.

  114. boston02127 says:

    Good morning.

    Jill’s tweet from last night~~
    I saw the pain on Theresas face. It must have felt like she wAs being ganged up on. Very sad they did this for ratings. Very sad.
    Apparently Jill never saw the pain on Bethenny’s face when she was so nasty to her.

    • HD says:

      Why is she always inserting herself into other Housewife business? Worry about your own damn show! She gets on my nerves with that!

  115. boston02127 says:

    I’m again watching the damage in Joplin MO. It’s devastating. I wonder if we put cloths, blankets & house hold things in a box and marked it, Family in Need, Joplin MO if it would get to someone who need it. I have a lot of my mothers & my cloths and house hold things, blankets, sheets, towels that I could send. Does anyone know if someone there in MO is in charge of mail like this?

    • quincyil says:

      I know the Salvation Army will be there. You could put it in the US mail with Salvation Army…Joplin Mo.

      • quincyil says:

        I decided to start a campaign in Quincy to give family’s the early warning radios and with that radio to encourage them to have a plan for when the storms come because those storms will come.

      • boston02127 says:

        Thank you Quincy. I’m going to do that today. I think I’m going to go the dollar store and get plastic bags, tooth brushes and things like that. I may not have much but I’m sure a box or two will help someone. Watching the poor people that lost everything is heartbreaking.

  116. boston02127 says:

    NJ Peeps—Ramona will be in NJ tonight. From her twitter~~

    I will be doing my next bottle signing tomorrow, Tuesday May 24th, at Total Wine in River Edge, NJ from 5pm-7pm! Hope you can make it!

    • HD says:

      Does she really have any money?

      On an aside, thanks, Boston for always posting the latest RH news. You are always up and at em getting the breaking stories. You are the IHJZ Barbara Walters (of course the young version 🙂 ).

  117. HD says:

    As for Teresa and Melissa- you don’t have to love one and hate the other. I think they can stand alone. Melissa has been on two shows thus far. Come on now. Dislike already?

    Teresa did some pretty crappy things last season and it does seem like she is getting her just desserts however I cannot rejoice in someone’s pain when it is due to a family being pulled apart over something that probably doesn’t amount to a hill of beans. Caroline was right in saying, they are family, fix it. Would anyone really want to be on national TV with their brother or sister calling them garbage? Garbage? These two used to be inseperable they said. Now Teresa’s garbage. I can’t imagine my brother doing that and that would break my heart. I don’t know the backstory but I know it can be fixed. I wouldn’t mind Teresa getting her’s in regard to something directly tied to her behavior/finances and milking the system but family issues, that is a little sad. No family should argue like this. (Go ahead and tell me I’m wrong, I can take it. 🙂 )

  118. boston02127 says:

    I’m going to log off and go to the market to get some boxes and call a few friends to see what they have for cloths, etc to send to MO. Have a good day everyone.

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