I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of New Jersey / Watch What Happens Live

Thanks to Boston02127 for her latest gem:

The Real Housewives of New Jersey

I know this is supposed to be a Teresa vs. Melissa season but the one who irritated me the most on this episode was Caroline Manzo.  Who the hell does this woman think she is?  She is starting to believe all of her hype as the mother hen, the all-knowing high Priestess of New Jersey, sickening!

Caroline ruined a nice fall day at Teresa’s house with all the children carving pumpkins and having a nice afternoon.  She decided she was going to tell Teresa what it is and how to behave.  While the ladies and children are in Teresa’s yard carving pumpkins and talking about the Christening battle, Joe Giudice is in his kitchen, refuses to change his child’s diaper because he’s eating and grins as he spills his side of the Christening fight to Chris Laurita and Albie Manzo.  Teresa is supervising four children while carving pumpkins and this ass, Joe Giudice won’t even change his daughter’s diaper because he’s forever shoving food into his mouth. What a prize this man is!

With never-ending flashbacks of the Christening Party why couldn’t they show the one scene that Teresa and Kathy were arguing about?  We saw as Teresa’s youngest child, Adrianna was trying to crawl out of her stroller while the fighting was going on, I know what I saw and I saw no adults anywhere near her.  Joe and Teresa were dancing with Melissa’s baby for what Melissa describes as a long time, then they were both over at the Gorga’s table at the same time so who was watching Teresa’s children?   I don’t think that Teresa is a bad mother, I really don’t but she wasn’t thinking about her children as she started that battle with her brother and his wife, and lets not forget that last week little Adrianna was rescued from falling down that huge staircase by the hairdresser because Teresa was too focused on beautifying her older daughters.

Back to the fall festivities, the Giudice’s, Laurita’s and Manzo’s all got together to carve pumpkins at Terea’s house.  When the subject of the Christening brawl was brought up and Caroline decided that she has to give Teresa advice and tell everyone how things should go down going forward, little Gia was disgusted and didn’t want to hear about it.  Teresa’s talking head interview reveals what we all already know, Caroline should really shut the hell up.  Teresa tells us that she doesn’t need Caroline’s advice because she’s the matriarch of her own family.  Who is she kidding? Hell, Teresa can’t even spell matriarch.

On Halloween we saw the very different way the families celebrate.  The Giudice’s had a kid’s party to celebrate Halloween while the Gorga’s  went out dancing after taking the kids trick or treating.  Melissa invited Kim D who brought Kim G with her, unfortunately this is the woman who simply will not go away.  Kim G acts like a child, she’s so immature it is ridiculous.  Kim G was so excited about the fashion show because she was hoping for a repeat brawl like last year.

Albert Manzo is overseeing the set up of the Fashion Show at his restaurant The Brownstone, Caroline tells us that since her son Christopher has moved on and no longer works there, Albert simply cannot retire or even slow down.  What?  No one else can over see tables being set up?   This is a skill that only a Manzo can perform?  Albert tells us that he provided the maximum amount of people that can safely be admitted to the Posche Fashion Show then says that amount was exceeded by 100.  Luckily the Manzo’s have the Fire Chief in their back pocket or they may have gotten hit with a fire/life/safety violation.  The way those guests were jammed into the Brownstone they are all very lucky there wasn’t a fire.

As Teresa arrives Melissa and Kathy are already getting their make up done and she predictably acts as if nothing has happened.  Teresa greets both women with a phoney kiss and fake smile then screams at Caroline at the top of her lungs twice when Caroline dares to speak to Melissa and Kathy.  “Caroline is MY friend” Teresa reminds viewers, “Melissa and Kathy are sucking up to Caroline” she says.  It was pretty clear that Melissa was trapped in a make up chair and Caroline made her way over to talk to Melissa to say hello and chat, not the other way around.   Get a grip Tree, you can HAVE Caroline, who the hell else would want her?

Jacqueline was the first to walk in the fashion show and she unnecessarily tells us that she is no good at it, Melissa is over the top and does her walk twice at the urging of Kim D while Caroline describes Teresa accurately as stiff and forced.  The best part of the show is that we didn’t have to tolerate Ashley Holmes appearing on stage.  The mentally stunted Kim G asks her table mates if they should all “Boo” Teresa then giggles like a 13-year old.  She and Kelly Bensimon should really get together, they’re the same mental age.

After the show Kathy makes an attempt to talk to Teresa, Kathy explains that she’s talking to Tree but no one is home, she’s simply not listening.  Teresa is blaming the entire thing on her brother yet he and Melissa believe that Teresa owes them an apology.  When Kathy tells Teresa that she attempted to protect the children at the Christening battle Teresa freaks out and refuses to acknowledge that she left her youngest daughter unattended.  Where was the usual Bravo flashback showing that Kathy was indeed telling the truth?  We saw that little baby sitting alone in her stroller trying to climb out of it with no parents in sight.  Gia tried to pull her mother away from the arguing and was crying hysterically when Kathy tried to calm her down.  “I don’t want them to fight” Gia said to Kathy. 

Once again Caroline decides to stick her nose into something that is none of her business, she yells at Melissa  “You’re family, Fix it!”  then tells Kathy to go kill each other in your hown homes.  Great advice Caroline, you write an advice column, huh?  Teresa was the first to raise her voice and scream at Kathy yet Caroline said nothing to her.

I’m really tired of Caroline Manzo and her “perfect” life, she acts like she is so perfect, is the perfect mother, the perfect wife and gives such great advice that everyone has to listen to her and do as she says.  This woman who made a complete fool of herself at last season’s reunion and is so ignorant that she thinks Italian people in the south can’t cook Italian food because they don’t live in Jersey?   Who would ask this woman for advice?    You’re a moron Caroline Manzo…own it!

I’m firmly on Team Melissa, it may not be the popular choice but I’m surprised at the number of people who have forgotten all that Teresa has said and done in the past three years.  Have people forgotten all the legal trouble that her husband has gotten into?  I haven’t seen Joe Gorga in the news for drunk driving, driving without a license and attempting to get a driver’s license in someone else’s name.  Not to mention forgery, lying on their Bankruptcy documents, hiding assets, scamming people out of money…and the list goes on.  Teresa pretending she didn’t know about any of this is a joke!

I wasn’t surprised by the Watch What Happens Live poll results, the Twitter fans went ape shit crazy against Melissa in support of Teresa while the show was airing so when Teresa won the battle with 94% of the vote it was not a shock.  Clearly I don’t agree, Teresa Giudice is a liar and her husband is an untrained animal but I recognize that viewers are slow to warm up to a new housewife.  I won’t deny that Teresa has a lot of fans, I’m simply not one of them.

I think Andy was hoping to get a rise out of Teresa and get her to say some shocking things against her sister-in-law Melissa and her cousin Kathy but apparently the kool-aid Teresa was drinking wasn’t strong enough.  Andy should have fed her some of his Maker’s Mark if he really wanted to get her riled up.

No crazy Teresa on WWHL

Jacqueline joined Teresa on Watch What Happens Live and apparently recognized that the show was boring so when she won a small ham in tonight’s game she stuck it up her dress making it appear as though she had a penis.  Why she did this, there no way of knowing.  I don’t think Andy was too happy about this stunt because his next question, a serious one about Jac’s daughter Ashley never got answered because Teresa was playing with Jacqueline’s ham in her crotch.   I know, it was very strange.  Andy even said, “Respect the ham!”   Maybe this is a Jersey thing, they can only play with ham.  The Manzo children throw sliced boiled ham at each other and Jacqueline sticks ham up her dress.  Remind me never to eat ham in New Jersey.

Unfortunately the ham stunt didn’t save the show, it was a bit boring.

Andy’s three obsessions tonight:

1.  The Halloween costumes worn by the Jersey cast

2.  Kim G’s reappearance on the Real Housewives of New Jersey.  Andy wondered if she was constipated as she likes to start crap.

3.  The Posche Fashion Show and the New Jersey Housewives walk the runway, Andy wants them to learn from Teresa’s daughter Gia and ran the footage of Gia practicing her runway walk…AGAIN and again and again.

Apparently the Watch What Happens Live crew didn’t have their delay button handy as Teresa slipped and said the word “Shit” but really they should have bleeped the entire sentence that Teresa said.  It included a lie, a swear word and a double negative.

“Danielle kept attacking me and I couldn’t take her shit no more.”

This was in response to a question about Teresa taking some responsibility for things that have happened on the show.  She took no responsibility for anything, no surprise there.  We’re supposed to believe that this women writes her own blogs?  Not a chance!

I loved the way Andy kept asking Teresa if she understood the jokes he was making, we’ve seen so many times things going right over her head so tonight Andy kept saying to Teresa, “do you get it?” just to make sure she “got it!”  Hysterical!  

Andy asked Teresa why she completely freaked out and the “Gorga switch” went off when Danielle mentioned her sister-in-law Melissa on the last season reunion.  Teresa said she didn’t know how Danielle knew Melissa’s name.  Is she kidding?  By the time the reunion filmed many people knew Melissa’s name, she was already rumored to be the newest New Jersey Housewife and she was already chatting with viewers on Twitter.

Typical Teresa doesn’t think she’s done anything wrong and took no responsibility for anything.

Last week I tweeted my RHONJ blog to both of Melissa’s sisters and I got a private message back from one of them with a very nice message telling me it was funny and thanking me for seeing and writing about the truth about her sister and Teresa.

The New Jersey ladies have posted their blogs and included there is a bonus blog written by Jay Mohr, Jay is cute and funny and all that but he doesn’t really give his opinion, whose side are you on Jay?  Grow a pair and tell us what you really think! Take a look:

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-3/blogs/jay-mohr/the-ties-that-bind?page=0,1

Tonight on Bravo the season finale of Pregnant In Heels, I don’t think too many will be upset that this series is ending.  Quincy has done a fantastic job of recapping the shows and will post her final blog about PIH tomorrow morning along with my thoughts on what these wacky housewives are up to.

Until Next Time…


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557 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of New Jersey / Watch What Happens Live

  1. Laura says:

    Great blog Lynn……”remind me never to eat ham in New Jersey” Lmao!
    It has always cracked me up, mainly the NY housewives, that claim they have “class”….none of these women possess an ounce of class and wouldn’t know what it was if it bit ’em in the arse! Eeesh!

    Andy’s best shows are when Bethenny is on…he should have her on every week!

  2. IndianaHousewife says:

    Good morning everyone! Lynn thank you for the blog!

    I am not able to pick a team – both Teresa and Melissa have their issues. I will say that Melissa much like the sister I grew up with. She is setting off alarm bells in my head! As of right now I am thinking I will not be liking her very much by the end of the season.

    • sue says:

      I have already made up my mind that I don’t care for Melissa at all. I can just see through her and her sisters. They are trouble makers, and to me its crystal clear they are just out to get face time on tv and thinking they are going to turn into A-list celebs or celebs of any letter. Melissa tries to come off too nice and perfect to the point it is sickening. Don’t get me wrong, I am no great fan of T’s, but in this instance I do believe her that they were mad and blamed on T what was up to bravo to approve for them to be on the show. Melissa thinks she will be the next pop sensation, and her sisters, well some have referred to them as the next Kardashians, We here refer to them as the wicked step sisters from Cinderella!…Can’t stand Melissa and her sisters, We think T’s bro. is just jaded by his wife, and as far as Kim G. she cant accept the fact Bravo did not want her and she also cant accept the fact that she indeed is does look older then her age!

      • cait says:

        I agree with you sue. I watched M and her sisters on both episodes and they have some really wicked facial expressions. M is setting off my bs detector, she is faking it. I can’t like that. I don’t understand these blogs that are pro M and anti T.. They are both messed up. I don’t know, I just don’t like these girls and I wish they would get called out on their bs already. Kathy is not sweet, she is a trouble maker

        • okeydoekey says:

          I agree Melissa’s evil two sisters are instigators and seem to love the camera a little too much. I believe the majority on this blog don’t favor Melissa or Teresa’s actions. At the reception Melissa’s sister tried to calm Joe Gorga by saying “look at me you’re real sister” they have no problem being part of the problem.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            i tried to watch last night and LOL fell asleep
            then i woke up and tried to watch the 2nd episode and FELL Asleep LOL

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            I’ve very aware of why I don’t like Teresa but it tool me almost a season to get their. Melissa and her sisters managed to turn me off in the first episode.

            Since I know now they are reading the blog…

            ‘I don’t like you broads’

            You know what the above is?
            That’s the malolcchio coming your way. Even Jill Zarin hasn’t instantly garnered the type of contempt you all do. You have actually managed to make some folks feel sorry for Teresa. Not me though, I have a even disgust for all of you.

      • linda2148 says:

        You said it all Sue. I think Melissa and her family are worse than Teresa. And Teresa is crazy!!!

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Melissa’s sisters are feeding the fire in the name of family. They tell JOey exactly what he wants to hear. He isn’t his family’s favorite and that is what it is – grow up and get over it you little bug eyed fidget.

      • quincyil says:

        I think Melissa bitches to her sisters and now they have ganged up on Teresa. Those three women are feeding into Teresa’s brothers feeling that he is being shut out by a sick old man who can barely walk, his father.

        Joe Giudice does say mean things under his breath and into the camera. He is mean to Teresa. I believe that he says mean things to Teresa’s father about Teresa’s brother.

        Teresa’s parents are in trouble. They are caught between to two jealous and selffish children on a reality show. I feel sorry for them.

        Dressing up like your sister for Halloween is symbolic. I think it is mean spirited but I expect no less from Teresa’s brother and his wife, Melissa.

        Melissa must have read the blogs as she exactly what to say to get her point across: “We pay our bills.”

        I am not Teresa’s fan. I remind you that she takes no responsibility for her spending her family into debt and doesn’t care about the people who she owes money too. She went shopping for furntiture right after filing for bankruptcy to the tune of $60,000.

        Teresa is poor. Poor people don’t have make up artist come to their mansions to do their make up.

        Poor people don’t have designer clothes and shoes.

        Poor people don’t have fancy new cars.

        If the people in NJ are willing to give Teresa their support, that is their business, but if she borrows from you, don’t go on the net and complain.

        • cait says:

          Quincy- let’s not forget that it’s still too early to take the Gorga’s word about how they pay their bills. I’m thinking they don’t actually pay their bills. But you are right Mel was def reading blogs before the show aired

        • alicia says:

          On another blog they said that the NJ housewives were paid $ 500,000 for this season. Is it true ? If so, I guess Theresa isn’t cash poor. I don’t know if they can garnish paid wages to settle the future ruling in July.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            I can’t see them getting that much, those Jersey Shore A-holes have 2-3x the ratings and aren’t making that much.

        • Anne says:

          Well BK is federal, so you are all giving Teresa your support not just the people from NJ. As for Joe Gorga’s Halloween costume it was a Snookie costume. He stated it and it is extremely popular.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            I’m pretty sure that Q comment was in regards to people comping Teresa or extending her credit. Since her bankrupcy petition will likely be denied due to all the LIES they told when they filed- I don’t see how WE THE PEOPLE are complacent in all of that.

            It was a Snooki costume- but I didn’t hear Joey say he was pretending to be Snooki and nor did I hear anyone call him that. So your guess as to what his intentions were are no more reasonable than Q’s opinion.

            • quincyil says:

              Melissa said that he looked like his sister so I thought he was dressing like Teresa.

              • anne says:

                It was a Snookie costume which was extremely popular for Halloween this year and not Teresa.

            • Anne says:

              Joey wanted to look like Snookie and if the looked like Teresa well that is just proves he is her brother. You really don’t like contrary comments.

              People extending credit are because credits cards are paying them. Neiman Marcus is still getting paid. It is coming out of all the US people and not just the people of NJ. So I think whoever it was misspoke.

              • quincyil says:

                Thank you for the insider’s information, Anne. All I know is what they show us on TV. I am glad you post.

                Q

        • Linda says:

          How is T driving a new mercedes suv? I can’t stand her and Caroline…barely tolerating Melissa. Again, this story line will become tired and boring and time to get rid of this show or need a brand new cast.

      • Bloshka says:

        It’s my feeling that there is blame to go around everywhere. However, I was stunned to hear Joe Gorga and Melissa say that the fight was Teresa’s fault because she should have known to back away. In other words, it’s Teresa’s fault that M. Joe blew a gasket because she congratulated the couple.

        Then there’s the other one, I think her name is Kathy. She claims that it was she who got Audrianna to safety, but she said it when trying to “make peace.” It was a dig.

        I don’t mind Caroline telling Teresa to fix it. They are castmates on a show and Caroline did stay out of the fighting and told everyone not to bring the drama into the Brownstone. I thought she was good at it; she didn’t intervene except to tell them not to fight at her husband’s business.

        • quincyil says:

          Kathy also implied that Teresa should have noticed Joe’s look and run away.

          This old world honor/respect issue is so “Dark Ages.”

          • Satchels of Jelly Beans says:

            These folks are definitely pre-reniassance, and for sure pre enlightenment. Animals — every single one.

            • karen says:

              i have to say that both teresa and her brother, and joe G are animals. i have never even thought that about people but they are. the way both teresa and her brother react is feral. both of them go into blackouts, grunting, pushing, attacking. again, i dont feel sorry at all for those parents, one kid who turns out like this, okay, two? please. i cant even imagine what that home was like

        • Jennifer says:

          Caroline told Melissa to fix it- Caroline is a self righteous ass in my opinion

        • JKW says:

          Actually Kathy only mentioned getting Audriana out of the way after Teresa asked her where she was. Teresa said something like…why wasn’t she in there fighting…something like that. That was when Kathy said she was taking care of her own children. Teresa then said that her kids were old enough to take care of themselves. Then Kathy said she also got the baby out of the way. Kathy only brought that up after the reference Teresa made.

    • Rahrah says:

      I think Melissa’s behavior is despicable, she keeps feeding her brother negative energy about Teresa and talking smack about Teresa, she is making me mad now..I for one do not think it is okay to call your sister garbage. Right now I am not sure I will ever have a relationship with my own Dad because of some bs my jealous cousin said to him, when I needed him emotionally he wasn’t there for me and it really has hurt me. My cousin has lied on me in the past but my Mom knew the truth even though it ended the relationship with my Aunt, her sister-in-law (both are deceased now). My cousin is just like her mother, sticking her nose where it doesn’t belong. I don’t know why I have to rollover because this cousin says so.

  3. nic says:

    I can not drink the Melissa kool aid – Teresa is absolutely no saint, but I don’t see her deserving of the Jill Zarin treatment. ( I feel all the Teresa hate began around the time she became a part of ‘Team Jill’ before S3 NY, but I digress.) You hate Teresa and Joe, yet Melissa and Joey are basically a younger version of T & J (minus bankruptcy and DUI, but give it time…give it time). Teresa and Joe show *ahem* affection and it’s disgusting (and it truly is), but Joey sucks Melissa’s toes and offers to rub lotion on her ass and it’s endearing- blech. I find it ironic Melissa says that ‘when someone starts screaming it’s because they’re wrong’ So what about ‘Joey’? While Teresa’s motives for going over to them at the christening are suspect (what Housewife doesn’t want extra screen time?), she did so politely (for her). Joey’s the one that started the name calling and screaming (it must run in the family). And I don’t even want to start on Melissa’s sisters. Every time I see them on screen I think of the ugly step-sisters in Cinderella. I don’t know why, it’s just the image that pops in my mind. No wonder they took to Kim G like a duck to water; they’re all sh*t stirrers.
    Kathy had absolutely no business starting something at the fashion show. So what if Teresa was ‘acting’ nice. That confrontation should have been left to another time. Everything was fine, strained and tense but fine, until Kathy had to talk. I knew Teresa was going to blow a gasket; what did Kathy think was going to happen? Has she met this woman?

    • cait says:

      Nic- great comment..Those sisters creep me out with their hateful expressions..and then Melissa with her evil witchy smile….yuck. Also, I thought it was embarrassing the way Melissa was hamming it up on the runway, in an ill- fitting tacky swan dress, I might add.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        The only thing missing was the stripper pole!

      • quincyil says:

        I have the feeling of Cinderella’s step sisters too.

        The problem is there is not a good person in the NJ show. I know Jacquelline was the sweeties in season one, but she really doesn’t shine with her Ashley issues.

        • cait says:

          oh I hate me some ashley something fierce! lol.
          She makes her mother look like such a crappy parent..I have no one to like on this show.
          ALso I think Lauren hates her mom Caroline

    • Rahrah says:

      it seeems the only thing real housewives serves is to break up any established relationships, friendships and family ties, I just don’t think it is worth it. I am starting to hate to watch it because it really brings out the demon/evil possessed characters.

  4. Mel says:

    Hi Lynn,

    I love reading your blog. It is truly my guilty pleasure !!!. However, your take on New Jersey is really one sided. I cannot stand Teresa, i think she is irritating. However, i cannot stand Melissa either. Her and T are more alike then they want to admit. Melissa and her hubby have been dying to be on the shw since the beggining and on the entire first episode she spent about 90% of it bashing Teresa. Everyone admitted that Melissa and her family were invited to all of the parties featured on the show in seasons past. Teresa is not responsible for the editing…if they were not featured on the show before, probably means that bravo didn’t feel they were worth it. Why is it that Melissa wants to have T include her in everything? Maybe because she wants the spotlight? I always believe Melissa and her gang fed Danielle all of ths info to bring up at the reunion….I feel that Melissa and Joey are exactly like T and her hubby. They both are over the top annoying. Although i am no fan of T, i feel that right is right.

    P.S if Melissa and T were hated each other so much, Why is Melissa the godmother of T’s baby. Why does T invite them to all of her parties and vice versa?

    • babykakes says:

      i thought Teresa asked Dina to be the baby’s godmother…i saw the episode

      • cait says:

        Dina is Audrianna’s God Mother.. and supposedly Malificent Mel (heh) is Gabriella’s God Mother.

      • Sweet Pea says:

        Melissa and Joe G are godparents to Gia, not the baby.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I don’t think Mel is Gia God Mother, Gia is 10. I don’t think she has been with Joey that long.

  5. Shelley_MUA says:

    Hello Lynn!
    I don’t really comment much, but I just wanted to let you know that I am part of the same minority that still doesn’t like Teresa. Nothing I’m watching will erase the facts as we all know them to be about the lying and scheming Teresa and Joe.
    Bravo certainly has an interesting way of editing. I too was surprised that they didn’t show the clip of her cousin taking care of the children when the brawl was going down. Suppose that will be left to the reunion?
    I really am bored with this HW francise, actually I can add OC and NYC to the list too.

    Love your blog and enjoy following you on twitter!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Whoever thought people who don’t like T would be in the minority? I am on the West coast and heard she won the poll last night, but when I saw the final numbers I was in complete and total shock. WTF????

      • okeydoekey says:

        if the poll was: Whose side are you on Teresa, Melissa or Neither…Neither would be the winner

        • Mary Jane says:

          I’d pick neither too.

          I don’t think Melissa and her husband are that great. He’s an out of control ape much like his sister. His comment to his son that cleaning was “woman’s work” rubbed me the wrong way.

          I was disgusted to see Kim G. I had completely forgotten about her. Her behavior was so ridiculous you can tell she’s playing up to the cameras, please make her go away.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            I forgot about her too! And I’m not sure how that was possible. Maybe like the pain of childbirth?

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            That’s why I didn’t vote.
            It’s hard to pick the less of two evils.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          I agree.

        • sue says:

          not with those final number results!

      • nathania says:

        they aren’t.

        this blog has been take over by scary Melissa hating trolls.

        I have been posting here since last year and I am used to the same people generally, posting, with a new name every now and then.

        I am reading post after post of people I have never seen on here before.

        that in itself is not alarming, but what is is that they all say the same thing, we can’t stand Melissa. Can you folks go start a “I hate Melissa Gorga” blog so all (one) of you can post there with an AGENDA rather than just the fact that you are a housewives fan and have an opinion about the episode?

        Pretty please?

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Seriously? How would you feel if people started saying
          “Why don’t you just start an “I love Melissa” blog if you love her so much? “. RHONY and NJ just started up again, which is a perfectly reasonable reason why new posters are here.

          Why is someone a troll? Because they are trash talking Melissa? I didn’t think supporting Melissa was a prerequisite for posting on a site called “I hate Jill Zarin”- Thinking Melissa sucks doesn’t mean someone supports Teresa. They both suck.

    • Lol says:

      Im not on twitter, Maybe you can tell that guy @jaymohr37 and remind him what Teresa and Joe did lol. Please let us know how he responds.

      • quincyil says:

        He doesn’t seem funny in his blog. I think he is a friend of Andy so he is taking the high road and not saying anything that can get him in trouble. His blog is a waste of time.

    • Rahrah says:

      personally, I have never lied or cheated on my taxes, right now I am over extended on my credit cards, but I have always paid, Teresa and Joe are doing what many Americans have done so I don’t see why they should be vilified. When they start killing old ladies and children I will understand.

      I actually admire for Teresa for not setting back, she appears to understand they need money and is working her butt of using the platform Bravo provided just like Bethenny. When you see her standing in the food stamp line take her photo and post it, she is not sitting around waiting for a handout.

      • Karen says:

        Lolol working her butt off by signing books????? Teresa and Bethenny dont even belong in the same sentence much less comparing them

      • Well, I have never gone into 11 Mil of debt on the backs of my friends and colleagues… and I do not know (or wish to know) anyone else who has done the same.

      • nathania says:

        I’m going to puke.

        “most americans”

        do not run up ELEVEN MILLION DOLLARS in debt.

        good lord.

        for comparision my sister filed a bankruptcy for 200 k when her daughter was born with a congenital problem that required five surgeries before she was a year old. my sister sold her car because she couldn’t keep it and borrowed money from her inlaws to buy a small economy car. her marriage did not survive the child’s condition and surgeries and now their house is on the market, and my sister is going back to school to get her master’s degree, and her husband found work as a civilian in afghanistan (in the danger zone so he gets danger pay which is relatively good money if you don’t get hit by shells or IED or whatever).

        them’s good old american hard times,

        not grifter succubi like the Guidice who are just reprehensible mafioso wannabe’s

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I’m so sorry to read about your nieces struggles. I hope that she is now doing well. My oldest daughter has faced some challenges of her own so I can really empathize on how emotionally and financially costly it can be.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            That was very nice of you, Rabble. Sorry to hear about your daughter. Hopefully she’s doing just fine now.

  6. WindyCityWondering says:

    Great blog Lynn!
    Teresa is not getting any slack from me either. We know what we saw last year and we know more about her personal life than any other housewife.
    Melissa and JOey are just a younger version of Teresa and Juicy (living above their means, bankruptsy and DUIs are just around the corner).
    The biggest bitch this season is JOey – the anger, table slamming, resentment/jealousy of his sister and that wounded animal crap is what has driven a wedge in the Gorga family – he has a wife who enables it, her family reinforces it and IMO – Teresa just isn’t buying any of his woe is me act. His father thinks he’s a tool and Juicy has nothing to do with that.
    As for Kathy – instead of being neutral, she chose the wrong side!

    • nic says:

      I was thinking if it weren’t for Joey I do believe Teresa and Melissa would probably get along.

      • sue says:

        Sorry, I have to disagree. I think Melissa, being the youngest of the other sister huns, will/would continue to be like her sisters and think that they are it sh*%, smile in peoples faces and stab them in the back types of human beings. These family of females are malicious and I would bet anything they have no true friends outside their own “coven”!

        • nathania says:

          okay, fess up..

          melissa’s had about maybe 20 minutes of camera time, and her sisters have had, all told, about three, at most.

          how do you know so much about these sisters that are being so vilified here?

          I can’t make an opinion one way or the other, except for the fact that they seem close knit. Do you know them personally?

    • housewifeaddict says:

      IA

      I hope Kathy becomes more neutral as time goes on. Right now the two newbies need each other to hang out with, as it’s clear Caroline won’t film with them until they can start to get along with T a little better.

      • Lol says:

        You know what, Caroline is too much of a control freak and bravo lets her get away with it. Pisses me off.

        • snarkarella says:

          I just posted a comment to Caroline’s blog on Bravo’s site. I said I don’t blame T for being pissed at Caroline telling her what to do and that Caroline is not the boss of everyone. Also, the term “Critofer” makes me ill. I challenged Bravo to print it since they only bright shiny comments. Personally, I can’t stand Caroline and I think she’s realizing that she’s lost a little ‘hand’ this season as the focus isn’t on the Manzo family anymore. Wahhhhhh.

      • nathania says:

        doesn’t matter.

        Caroline is toast.

        people don’t care about her because so much effort is going into the the crucifixion of Melissa that no energy at all is leftoever to expend on Caroline. She’s irrelevant.

    • Lol says:

      I think what pissed Joey off the most was when last year Tree had Gia’s friends ride in the limo at her b-day party but not Antonia, Gias cousin. T says family first? Then when Melissa tried to hold Audrianna, T took her off her at the christening. I think that he just exploded holding it in. Like talking crap to the parents, hogging the Mom up, mean stuff Tree wrote in her book about Melissa etc. I bet T did congratulate them for tech cameras.
      I dies laughing last week when Melissa said, Joey has to word, We pay our bills. LMAO. Loved that. Even if they aren’t now, still a smack in the face. Sucks when them section 8 tenants make you bankrupt by not paying the rent. (GET IT? LOL)
      I think Kathy feels snubbed also.

      • cait says:

        Probably Antonia was too young to be riding in the Limo with a bunch of older girls…just a thought. Also Bravo could have filmed M in previous seasons..as she was at some of those parties, they chose not too. Plus if M is a liar, which I think that’s certainly possible, then maybe she lied about the Audrianna christening/baby holding thing. She did say that Tree and Joe danced with her baby at his christening for over an hour…really? over an hour? exaggerate much?..yeah i call bs on most of M’s statements

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Mel’s daughter was 5, Gia and her friends were 9. What 9 year old wants to hang out with an almost toddler?

          And I agree, there is no way I think T and J danced for an hour with Baby Joey. Couples don’t even dance for an hour together at their wedding. Give me a break.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        Section 8 tenants in NJ do not pay rent…NJ pays the rent directly to the landlord. It’s a system rife with problems.

  7. housewifeaddict says:

    I still like Kathy, and thought that her taking T aside at the end of the fashion show to talk was an attempt to make things better. Caroline needs to stop barking out orders at people – it’s not her show. S1 was supposed to be about Caroline telling Jaq not to be friends with Danielle- until it turned out Danielle was actually dangerous – and Caro didn’t look like as much of a bully.

    I think Joey and Teresa both have major anger issues. Joe is a crook – but he did agree to change the diaper. They need to pay back the people they stole from – period. (Slade needs to pay his child support). I think we’ll hear more about what a creep Joey is as time moves on – something is off about him.

    I don’t like Melissa. She didn’t even seem upset about the christening – just sort of gloating and whiny. Kathy and T seemed far more upset. I think she likes to stir up drama and sit back and watch it play out.

    • cait says:

      Also- Joey and Melissa are illegally squatting in that mansion which was built under a “builder’s loan”. They are due to make a large balloon payment (because they haven’t paid anything on it yet) and it hasn’t been sold. Oh and they stiffed their landscaping contractor..so they aren’t any better that Tree and Juicey Jew-dee-chay

      • nic says:

        oooh really? I haven’t heard about this. See…matter of time…matter of time!

        • Stella says:

          I saw an article about the balloon payment but there was another article showing that has been modified and they now have regular monthly payments like a normal mortgage so I’m guessing as long as they pay that they should be able to stay in that house.

          • cait says:

            loan modification is a very slippery slope. I do believe that is what most of the real broke housewives say/do instead of foreclosure. One wouldn’t need a loan mod if they lived within their means. And they still stiffed some contractors (allegedly) And they were still squatting in a house that was not mortgaged for them to live there. I just aint drinkin their koolaid…They are in the same damn boat as the Tree and Juicy

            • okeydoekey says:

              Teresa paying a $10,000 mortgage and not downsizing is crazy. I can’t imagine how much they pay in health insurance. And I’m sure college is not saved up for 4 kids. Downsize Teresa no one will look down on u instead u look crazy paying all those bills.

      • IndianaHousewife says:

        And wasn’t Melissa the one saying “We have bills, and unlike some people we pay them” on the first episode?

        • cait says:

          exactly! that got under my skin. Gloating about your brother’s family and god children possibly losing their house??? While she smiles her overly bleached shit eating grin and says oh..we pay our bills..no you don’t bitch…gggrrr. Mel and joey are doing the same shit that tree and joe did..these people grew up together..they are probably not above doing something illegal..they certainly all lie about each other, it seems.
          -end rant- maybe

      • Lol says:

        Where did you hear this Cait

      • Rahrah says:

        everyone wants to suck up and defend Melissa because it is Teresa when really they may be worse, all I can say is WWJD?

        • krone says:

          What Would Jill Do?

          I shudder to think!!

        • cait says:

          Rahrah: lol. indeed wwjd?

        • nathania says:

          ‘suck up and defend Melissa’

          or gang up on Melissa and defend Terroresa the psychotic lunatic from hell who needs serious medication and rigorous therapy. you folks are not helping Teresa by fueling her insane jealousy of Melissa. Enabling this woman and fueling this fire is doing far more harm than good to her.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            Defend Teresa against what exactly?

            Sure Teresa might have done some low down stuff behind the scenes the way Danielle was accused last season- maybe D did so a bunch of horrible stuff we didn’t see but that still didn’t mean it was okay to hunt D down and rip her hair out.

            Joey got WASTED and broody at his own son’s baptism; he was so out of control that a mere “Congratulations” sent him over the edge.
            And his dumb ass wife and her sinister sisters were right there to fan the flames.

          • Karen says:

            I think Melissa has probably had years of teresas psychotic behavior and finally had a place to vent. It just wasn’t a smart thing to do

  8. KmK says:

    The camera angle on Teresa during WWHL made her look like a tranny. I had to change the channel!

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      it has nothing to do with the cams she always looks like a tranny to me LOL

      but not a good tranny
      more like the ones that are outside the lincoln tunnel at 3 am selling thier wares for 2 bucks a pop LOL

  9. Laura says:

    OT but I’m pretty sure there is quite a lot of wisdom in this community…

    My mom is 74, dad is 77…they have 82 acres (leased out to farmers, they actually take care of only about 10 acres) They have 7 flower beds, other various flowers etc, mowing and maintenance to do around the place.

    About four weeks ago my mom started having an issue with her neck. She woke up one morning, felt nauseous and said her head felt funny. When she got out of bed, she was wobbly feeling, walking like she is drunk. She has had four “episodes” of this now, the last one being Sunday. She said she knew when she went to bed Saturday night that Sunday wasn’t going to be a good day. Her and my dad had spent all day Friday taking care of cemetery plots for Memorial Day and then she worked in her own flower beds all day Saturday. She was so out of Sunday, my sister-and-law and I had to take care of dinner, which wasn’t a problem at all. There’s 10 of us on Sundays and it went well, we even got the kids to pitch in and help. We had dinner, cleaned up really well so my mom wouldn’t have anything to do except sit in pain and enjoy the family lol…anyway…we finally got her to make a doctor’s appt. I threatened to make it and take her myself and she just refused to have me be a part of it – didn’t want to bother/burden me. She went to the doc and he told her its a degenerative type of arthritis in her neck that is compressing the arteries and affecting the blood flow to her brain, hence whey she is wobbly feeling and gets nauseous. He’s sending her to a neurologist for further testing and has ordered her to take it easy in the meantime. No lifting, bending over, stooping etc…..

    So I just got off the phone with her this morning and she’s talking about getting her flowers situated on the front porch, this involves moving and carrying huge clay flower pots, lifting, bending over etc…I told her she can’t be doing that but she says well then who is going to do it? She does that kind of thing and my dad mows and does other stuff. I can’t seem to get her to slow down and realize that if their 7 flower beds aren’t perfect, life will go on. She says she is just going to have to figure out how to live with this and live with it. My dad is to the point that he can’t drive at night, he gets confused going places. Its not dementia or Alzheimer’s or anything…he just doesn’t pay attention….

    To make a long story short, sorry :)…..how do I get my mother to accept that she just can’t do what she feels she has to anymore? I don’t want her to slow down to the point of doing nothing, I just want her to accept that she can’t be down on her knees crawling around in the flowers anymore….any thoughts, suggestions, advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      A conversation with her doctor might be in order. My father was dizzy at my house and the next day, dispite my mother’s protests, I took him to the hospital – 95% blockage in his arteries! Sometimes you have to go over their heads – hope it helps.

      • Laura says:

        Thanks WcW. I shoulda stuck to my guns yesterday and went with her to the doctor. She lives almost an hour away though, which also makes it tough to try and go and do things for her, when I have my own things to deal with, ya know? Gosh, this is so hard!

        • Furalis says:

          I feel really bad but I agree about speaking with the doctor. Your Mom has to realize she could jeoperdize ever working woth her flowers again. I would ask her to make a list for the days you do come up to help out. My mom is the same way and I always tell her she would make a great farm animal and she keeps going and going. She always laughs. Good Luck.

    • kmuellfa says:

      I feel for your situation. When peoples health starts to fail, it can be hard to accept the limitations it puts on them. I wish I had some good advice for you.

    • Christine says:

      Laura,
      While I can understand your frustration and caring for your parents’ situation, I don’t think this site is the best place for this type of advice. You should find a way to speak with your parents’ physicians and express your concerns. Call you local Social Services office, most communities have people who deal with issues related to seniors and elder care. There may be counselors available who could speak with you and/or your parents.
      My heart goes out to you and I will pray for you as you cope this very difficult situation.
      (((Laura)))

      • Laura says:

        I have spoken to everyone I know of. Family members including my brother and some cousins….I just read here everyday and there is so much knowledge and wisdom I decided to ask here. Thanks Christine.

      • Lol says:

        Everyone talks about things here other than what the blog is about. But it’s your opinion, stating mine also.

    • NJBev says:

      Dear Laura-
      I had the same situation with my mom about 5 years ago.
      Without going into details, I sat my Mom down and simply told her
      that I completely understood where she was coming from. I f I were
      her, I wouldn’t want to change my lifestyle either.

      I then explained that she basically had to make a very big decision-
      You see, Mom, if you proceed to go at the pace you are, you will get
      very ill-and if you get very ill, “I” will have to take care of you- and if
      I have to take care of you, I cannot care for my family as I should.
      So essentially Mom, you are saying that the flower beds are more
      important than me, and the welfare of my family? That I should give up
      the next 10-15 years of my life taking care of you? Are the
      flowers more important than me?

      My husband, on the other hand, told his father to go ahead and do
      anything he wants. If he gets sick or bed-ridden because of something
      the Dr. told him not to do, he(my husband) will not give
      up his life because the parent was too selfish to change his.
      “You’re on your own” (of course he wasn’t, but you know where I’m
      going with this)

      I know both ways sound harsh, but the only thing more important
      to your Mom is her children. If she sees that her choices directly
      affect you, you may have a chance. It worked for me, not so good
      for the hubs.

      Good luck, Laura

      • Laura says:

        Thank you for your kind words Bev…you did give me so insight here.

        She keeps telling me that I’m going to have to take care of her when she can no longer take care of herself and I’m okay with that…but since this whole thing started, she is refusing to let me help her and that is what is so frustrating. She keeps telling me her older sister is the stubborn one but I’m finding it must run in the family (little does she realize, even though I’m adopted, her stubbornness must’ve rubbed off on me too!)

        I’m taking your words to heart and will try this and see what happens. Thanks so much…

        • Golden Girl says:

          I’m sorry about what you are going through Laura but I agree that NJBEv gave you great advise.

        • NJBev says:

          Laura,
          my very best friend was in the same situation as well.
          (we all will go thru something like this at one time in
          our lives..)

          she tried my way first, but her Mom is very stubborn-
          it got to the point where she had to “hit her (mom)
          with a 2 by 4!”( her words not mine)… telling her that her unwillingness to do what’s right(this was a case of
          emphazema, and she wouldn’t stop smoking) was
          incredably selfish, and she would not bear the burden
          of caring for her, if she made no effort to help herself…
          (we’re talking oxygen tanks, etc. here)
          She eventually complied, but it damn near killed
          the family in the process….
          It’s not easy being “the sandwich” generation.

    • Rahrah says:

      I believe Dad may have sojourner’s, please look it up. Our this thing that happens at sundown, maybe it is called sundowner’s sorry.

      • cait says:

        yeah, sundown syndrome, I think. People with alzheimer’s and severe dementia experience it. ALso it could be called the whitching hour – mostly effects cranky and willful toddlers tho

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      So many of us here are going thru or have gone thru this difficult process of managing your own family & then taking on elderly parents. I find the wisdom dispensed here does help me, so thank you to those kind enough to take the time to offer their experiences. Decades ago my parents took in my grandfather (he was in his 90’s still hand drying his car after washing it – he was always in such good health). Grandpa was a handful. He would wake up in the middle of the night & think it was daytime – then go off to the minister’s house 8 blocks away in the middle of winter to wake him up claiming “I’m supposed to be getting married today.” This was in a really small town in flyover country, everyone knew my family & understood. Thankfully the minister did not call the police, he called my brother to come & get Grandpa. Many times Grandpa would somehow be out on the highway, thinking he had to be over in the next town. A kind soul would pick him up & take him home. Grandpa was an “expert escape artist” who would some how manage to wander off even when my parents were constantly on the alert. These days families do not always live in the same town. Makes it very hard, because moving an elderly parent into your home doesn’t always work. My mom is 86 now & thankfully doing pretty well. I plan on spending more time with her now that my son is almost out of high school. We are lucky that my brother is there in town to watch over her. Plus she has caring friends, neighbors etc. I think it’s okay to ask neighbors & friends to keep an eye out for your parent(s). Exchange phone numbers…call to check on them. My mom has 3 card buddies in their 90’s. She helps keep tabs on them. We are all here to help each other.

    • ramonacoaster says:

      Talking with your mother’s doctor may be difficult with HIPAA privacy laws. I think if you keep sitting down with your mother and father and talking with them, your concern and worry will eventually kick in and they will listen to you. It may take several times but eventually they’ll see it’s coming from a good place. It is actually good for them to have some sort of activity, just not too strenuous.

      • MAMAZ says:

        Good luck Laura.
        I wish I could offer some advice but I’m going through something similar with my mother and one of my Aunts. Unfortunately I don’t live near enough to be of much help.
        I’m glad others were able to give you some of those words of wisdom you were looking for.

    • alicia says:

      Was your mom diagnosed with stenosis ? My dad had similar symptoms and had surgery last year to correct it ( It involved inserting two rods in his neck.)
      His surgeon did a wonderful job, but he still gets a stiff neck sometimes.
      It is very hard to get older parents to accept that they can’t “do it all” anymore.
      Maybe you can get her to agree to employ helpers when she has to do heavy lifting. Go to the neurologist and write down his recommendations. Reiterate
      in front of the doc what he has told her” not to do” so she is hearing it again.
      Good luck!

    • boston02127 says:

      @Laura–When we found out my mother had PSP, her daily living changed quite fast. She was extremely stubborn and wanted to do things herself. As the PSP progressed (very quickly), I stayed on top of everything that I knew she wanted done. At the beginning if I had to leave her for an hour I’d have anything & everything she needed right next to her so she wouldn’t have to walk alone. Within a year she had a walker but things got progressively worse quickly and we got her the Personal Alert System, which is excellent. I would recommend it to anyone. If she hit the button by accident (around her neck) within seconds the company would call out her name (from a box) and I’d answer “it was an accident, she’s ok”. and I’d have to give them our code number. Also, they are tied in with the fire dept and police dept in case they need to get in the house.

    • jeepers1941 says:

      Laura,
      You can call the Aging with Disabilities local offices, they will put you in touch with people who can help your parents, from all kinds of chores. It is free and they are a very nice group of people. Here is an 800# 1-800-562-0332. Hope they can direct to a Aging and Disability Resource Center in the area you are in…………

  10. HD says:

    In this issue I do not have a team. I think Bethanny vs. Jill really was warranted as there was a clear line of demarcation. In a case like this you have a brother and a sister both losing and that is never right. I am not Team Melissa and I am not Team Teresa. I do not think you have to pick one over the other. Melissa has been on 2 shows and how often have we seen people change-Jill and Sonia ring a bell. In this I remain neutral.

    I also have to side with Caroline on this, they are family, fix it! Whatever it is (short of some horrible crime committed against the other or whatnot) fix it. Whatever happened to family sticking together? If anyone ever sees my brother/sister and I fighting like this please do not pick a side, slap us both and tell us to get it together. In the end, sometimes, family is all that matters. (In a normal family not one with abuse and all that- ya’ll get me.) Whatever it is, I hope it is resolved, they have kids, those kids should be playing together not pulling their mom and dad off of each other. This is a boiling hot mess. I am one that LOVES drama on reality shows but this is just a little too much. What it all comes down to is that they are both hurting and no one will be the bigger person to say, I am hurt.

    • Laura says:

      I can kinda understand why Teresa and Melissa do not get along. My s-i-l and I butt heads quite often. Nothing to the point of these screaming people but she annoys the hell out of me just about every weekend and its hard to keep my mouth shut sometimes. She does things like “here I saw this and thought of you” – Sweet, right? Then comes “I was at a garage sale and it was ONLY $.50 so I just knew you’d love it”…..yes, sweet and thoughtful…but she does it with EVERYTHING. She once bought 19 cupid erasers for Valentines day, for $.25 each….gave one to everyone in the family (1o of us)…when she gave my dad one, he looked at it and said “What the hell do I do with it???” I laughed so hard…anyway…the tension between T and M is clear and I guess I get it to a certain degree….but I can’t pick a team either, I don’t like either of them….

      • IndianaHousewife says:

        Hi – your SIL and my sister would be great together. My sister is a cross between Jill/Luann/Melissa, habitual liar, nasty digs meant only to hurt, and a sh$t stirrer. It has gotten so bad I have not spoken to her for about 3 years. Sometimes I watch these shows and think why am I so fascinated by this? I have worked really hard in removing negative people (family) from my life and being OK with it. Why do I find it necessary to invite these idiots into my home on a weekly basis? I have finally decided that for me it is about control I can shut them off and walk away.

        I have suffered through too many holidays that were amazingly similar to the christening, we have not had punches thrown, but pretty close. This show is starting to hit too close to home, may not be watching for much longer.

        • Laura says:

          What is it with these people? I really don’t get that part…but I do get that there is tension. My s-i-l means well, I keep being told but after 17 years, It just gets so annoying. And she’s always asking the same question over and over again, during the same day and will say “Sorry, I just forget things”…..I think its more like she asks, to make small talk, doesn’t listen to the answer and then thinks of it again and asks again! CRAZY!!!!

          I know what you mean about watching the shows….and thats the thing, its not my family, I can turn it off when its over. I’m hooked lol…I watch all the series of Housewives, but…I DVR b/c I can’t stand commercials so I can just fast forward through them all…

        • Elizabeth says:

          I know exactly what you mean….My brother was married (second time) to a woman who presented herself to the family one way, but within a year, had started showing her true colors. She ruined a couple of family gatherings and is simply the most passive aggressive person I have ever known. My brother’s children (grown) can’t stand her….and when I talked honestly to my brother about her behavior and how it was breaking up our family, he stopped talking to me. Having them “out of our life”….even if it’s just temporary….has been a blessing. The stress of dealing with them was horrible, and now it’s lifted. So, although family is important, when someone is constantly causing trouble, it’s not necessary (nor advisable) to follow the Caroline Manzo rule of mandatory reconciliation.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            Elizabeth, I could not agree more. Family is very important, but sometimes it’s just easier and less stressful to let it go when there is a situation that causes everyone pain and stress. I am a firm believer that we choose and make our own family through friends and special people in our lives. Just because you are blood related to someone that is not a guarantee that you will like them and have a healthy relationship. Sad, but true.

          • Laura says:

            I beg for the sweet release of never having to speak to them again…but, its simply not allowed. Keep your mouth shut, smile, nod and be civil.

            My own kids will tell me to suck it up and that adds to my frustration b/c its hard to teach them to stand up for themselves when they don’t see me standing up for myself!

            Now that my parents are getting older though…I know the one thing that will make them happy is doing just that…sucking it up!

            • IndianaHousewife says:

              Trust me I get the sucking it up. All three of us children promised my father when he died to take care of my mother, she has MS, can no longer walk unassisted or drive. Both my sister and my brother have found excuses to go back on that promise. My mother can be difficult, however how do you not honor a promise to a dying person and your father no less?

              • NJBev says:

                Indiana, you are right. In
                your situation it is
                shameful what your brother
                and sister have done.

                I do believe, however,
                that in some family
                dynamics it is better to
                distance yourself from a
                toxic relative-
                If I had a cancerous
                growth on my leg, I
                would try to eliminate
                the cancer.
                Who knows, there
                could be a cure for it
                eventually…so you
                hope for a cure.
                In the meantime, I
                wouldn’t let it “grow”
                (or let the person
                ruin my life-)
                until I found
                a cure.
                I may
                never find that
                cure, but at
                least it didn’t
                kill me.

                • IndianaHousewife says:

                  I totally agree. However do you want to bet when the time comes and my mother is no longer here they will remember they have a mother?

                  My general attitude is to deal with what I can, do my best and the rest can go to H$ll. Sometimes you just have to suck it up and do the right thing. It helps that I also believe in Karma!

                  • jeepers1941 says:

                    Indiana,
                    Don’t feel bad, I took care of both my parents for well over 13yrs. I had a brother who was 3 yrs older than I and he passed their house 4 to 6 times a day and never once did he stop by to see if they were ok or needed anything. But come Sunday when he and his wife got out of church, they would come by. My s-i-l would lean on a wall just inside the front door and stand there until it was time for them to leave, usually about 10 mins after they got there. So family is not always what it should be, believe me, for the last 5yrs of my mother’s life, she never got a birthday card, mother’s day card or even a Christmas card, but 3 days after she passed away, I got a phone call from him, telling me what I needed to do about her remains and financial holdings. I let him have it right then and there, we have not spoke since then and that was 15yrs ago. So I feel for you, but your feelings are yours to feel, don’t let someone tell you what you should do or feel. If you don’t feel like sucking it up, then don’t…….

                • ihearttalavera says:

                  Amen!!!

        • linda2148 says:

          I feel bad for you Indiana. I guess I’m lucky to have two sisters who are my best friends. I can’t imagine my life without them.

        • Rahrah says:

          That would be my cousin in my life as I am an only girl, I just can’t over look her jealousy of me anymore and my poor Dad is just clueless and doesn’t get it so he is blaming me. My cousin is a whiny little bitch who needs to be the top dog.

          • justanothermary says:

            I just recently returned home after an extended stay with my mother where I cared for her until her death two weeks ago. My brother and his wife had promised to be there and do whatever they could, but apparently what they could do is nothing. While I deeply resent my brother and sil for not finding time while I simply gave up my life and moved 500 miles away, not knowing how long I would be gone, I am very very grateful for the time I had with Mom. The talks, laughter and memories we shared is something my brother cannot take away from me and it made all that I had to forego for a time well worth the sacrifice.

            • OneMoreInBoston says:

              Mary,

              I am so sorry to hear about your mom.

              I haven’t been posting as much, and if you posted about your mom I must’ve missed it.

              please know you and your family are in my prayers.

              • Lavalady says:

                So sorry for the loss of your mom, Mary. But what you say is very true. You gave up alot to be with her at the end, and you were rewarded by the time spent with her. I admire you for that.

            • klmh says:

              Im so sorry Mary.
              I know that you will look back and know that this is one of the most important, if not the most important, things you’ve done in your life. You are the beneficiary and they are the losers.
              Every day I am so grateful to have had that time with both my mother and little sister. The most difficult time, yes, but its the best and most rewarding thing I’ve ever done.

            • BlueSky_Forever says:

              Mary so sorry for your loss, you were a good daughter for taking care of your mom in her time of need. I remember that it wasn’t long ago that you yourself were very ill too. You were rewarded for your caring nature and maybe you will find it in your heart to forgive your errant brother. Or ask God to do that for you. I have a sister that has a husband that makes it impossible for us to be friendly. It hurts my mom, who I think would give anything for us to be able to be sisters again. Sometimes families just cannot get along. So I ask God to forgive my bil and hope that someday we will have a relationship again. In the end all that matters is peace. Hugs & sending you love Mary!

            • kotagirl29 says:

              Mary, I am so sorry for your loss. I cannot imagine how hard it is to lose your Mom, but you have my deepest sympathy. Treasure that time you had together.

            • AZ Girl says:

              I am sorry to hear about your mom. It seems like the burden always falls on one person in the family. You are absolutely right about how lucky you were to have that time with your Mom and unfortunately, it is your brothers loss.

            • boston02127 says:

              @justanothermary–I’m so sorry for your loss. I don’t think there are any words to help. It sounds like you and your mother had a very good relationship and you’re lucky to have good memories. When my mother was sick she told me that she never wanted me to feel guilty because I was so good to her. It didn’t mean much then but it does now and I think you can feel the same way because you were good to your mom too.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              I’m so sorry Mary

            • Furalis says:

              Sorry for your loss Mary. For one I could not imagine my Mom gone but we do share a very special relationship and hearing your story makes me a little softer towards her. Glad that you had the opportunity to have laughter with her. That is a priceless gift.

            • NJ Bev says:

              Dear Mary,
              I am so sorry for the loss of your
              Mother. You have had such a
              difficult year, I find it hard to
              believe that your brother and sil
              could possibly think it was ok
              for you to handle this on your
              own.
              But leave it to you Mary, to find
              the beauty in such a difficult
              situation. You seem to have that
              wonderful gift, of making lemons
              into lemonade. You are so
              inspiring, and I am in awe of you.
              Thanks for sharing your
              story.
              xoBev

    • nathania says:

      this is why i was wary of RHOBH because the issue with the Richards sisters goes back sooooooooooo far in time.

      None of us know what happened and we can’t even guess, there is 40 years of history there.

      What is suspicious to me is that so many people here have made such snap judgements about Melissa, when the girl has said or done relatively little. It’s only been two episodes. About two names I recognize so I am going to assume those are honest opinions but the rest of them…haven’t seen them on the blogs about other housewives shows, haven’t seen them offering opinions about ANYTHING other than hating Melissa beyond all reason or evidence, and loving Teresa beyond all claim to sanity.

      It’s kind of a depressing display, when you think about it.

  11. T-REX says:

    Good morning all! After reading the Blog, thanks Lynn as always a wonderful Blog, and after reading some comments made, I am again thankful to be boycotting RH this year.

  12. Janet says:

    Teresa looked really worn out and beat on WWHL…she’s obviously not enjoying this at all. I agree with a lot of what you said but watch out for Melissa. Her bitchy sisters are just fuel for Melissa and Kim G is no prize either. They are all mean girls. Right now, there is nobody I like….

    • ihearttalavera says:

      It seemed fake to me. I mean I realize she’s stressed between cheating people out of money, living beyond her means, and dealing with her asshole, cheating husband but… It seemed to me like she was using her fake “soft” voice. The same one she accused Kathy of using.

      • Karen says:

        I always see that fake I’m so nice but inwardly seething with fury teresa and then she snaps.

    • mamecastle says:

      I thought she looked over-medicated! Maybe a handful of Xanax with that champagne? Seriously, she looks so high! And, although I am not a Teresa fan, I believe Melissa and Non-Juicy are the ones that were out of line.

    • Furalis says:

      I totally agree with you about Teresa looking worn but she created all of this and I do not and will never feel bad for her. I’m not a fan of Melissa I am on no team.

      Lynn and Q as usual thanks for the great blog. I put a question out there yesterday about my niece and nephew coming and people responded with great idea’s. The people here are unbelievable and really support one another unless of course you are a troll….

  13. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    “Maybe this is a Jersey thing, they can only play with ham. ”

    no its not a Jersey thing its a imaturity thing
    Look at the people involved

    • ihearttalavera says:

      ITA. I’ve seen other things filmed in Jersey – obviously not reality based – and everyone seemed pretty normal. They get a bad rap!

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        Thanks
        Ive lived here all my life and while i do know people that may act like some of these housewives
        no one in my family behaves like this
        ok im just 1/3rd italian but my last name is 100 per cent and jimmys 100 per cent Italian
        his family is a whole other kind of crazy
        oh and his mom calls me Medican
        not sure of the spelling but it means im not really itallian because im not 100 per cent
        of couse it doesnt help that she is off her rocker and she does love me w/o doubt but she always calls me this
        despite the fact i make the better sauce LOL

        • IndianaHousewife says:

          Thats funny, my family is basically half German/half Italian and we make gravy! I wonder if its a regional thing in Italy?

          • La Dolce Vita says:

            Yes, it is regional: sauce, gravy, ragu…

            Most of the Italian immigrants to the US were from the region of Calabria & Naples. Southern Italy has a different cooking style due to the climate and type of land. Generally, they were, as most immigrants, a poor, uneducated people. Hence, the dialect that is spoken; not Dante’s Italian. Hot, sunny climate produces lots of tomatoes, the BEST are San Marzano from the lava rich land areas south of Mt. Vesuvius. We can buy them here: CENTO San Marzano, they do cost more, but what a difference.

            The food of the rich soiled and temperate climate of the north is completely different. Not only is the food different, but also the wines.

            If you think of Italy having the same shape as Florida, long and narrow; then throw in various mountain ranges, temperatures and neighbors such as Austria, France and Swiz. it helps explain the differences in cuisine.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          Ha! You’re welcome. Even though you’re a Gretchen fan, you’re not all bad. 😉

  14. Dee says:

    Love your blog Lynn and ha e to say I agree with 100% of what you had to say. I can’t stand Treeandrathol and her husband Jerky Joe….I have also noticed that Bravo is using every clip they have and trying to go out of their way to make Tree look dumber than dirt and I LOVE IT!!!! Keep ‘e coming!!

  15. WindyCityWondering says:

    We were so lucky to escape another RHNJ episode WITHOUT ASHLEY!
    WWHL – Jacq had to get into that whole broken home bs excuse again – her daughter treats her like she does because Jacq didn’t teach her to be respectful – sorry but that is all Jacq and there is no excuse. IF Jacq doesn’t get her own shit together soon she will lose Chris and then she will be responsible for two more children from a broken home!

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      It was a relief not to watch Ashley. Jacq needs to just say something like “I love my daughter & would like to leave her out of this.” She’s said too much to & about Ashley already. Maybe some day they can have a better relationship when both of them become mature enough to handle it. At this point it would be far better to stop paying Ashley’s bills since she is disrespectful. Let her birth father take on some responsibility. IMO Jacq & Chris do not need to be responsible for her any longer. It would be doing Ashley a favor to boot her ass out of the nest! Jacq’s guilty nature is not helping Ashley grow up.

  16. Violation says:

    Dear Lynn,
    Did you read the rules of word press before you decided to do this blog? “personal attacks” Word Press does not tolerate bloggers who use their site to attack people? You clearly do that to Jill Zarin. Do I need to say more? Please remove all material on Jill Zarin with in the next 48 hours off this blog or steps will be taken to have this blog suspended.
    Thanks in advance.

    • IndianaHousewife says:

      I wonder why this poster only mentions Jill Zarin is being attacked? This particular blog is discussing RHNJ not RHNY and Jill. People have expressed just as strong of opinions about other housewives not just Jill. Seems as though the little “brilliant ones” are still hard at work.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        This person is only concerned about herself/himself, opps I mean JZ – guessing everyone else is fair game! lol

    • plainviewsue says:

      Oh, Jill. Please stop with all of your legal threats. This is a wonderful blog where people express their opinions, both good and bad. Go tell Bobby to buy you something………..maybe a mouthpiece.

    • nic says:

      Do we have a ‘Bravolebrity’ in our midst? Hi 🙂

    • Dee says:

      HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!! Really? Screw you Jill Zarin! Bwhahahahhahaah!

    • cait says:

      rrrrrriiiighhht….was that shrill?

    • Mary says:

      Hi Jill!
      I’m so looking forward to the entire cast of rhonyc being replaced. You are all a big bore! By the way, I noticed your fat was squeezing out of your girdle when you sat down on Watch What Happens. Didn’t your mama tell you that you looked like a fool with that hair piece and tacky spandex. Btw, have you heard of spanx? Do you really think women will leave the good stuff for your playtex bra rip-offs, especially when you are the “model”. Even Ginger is cuter than you.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      Oh jill go away LOL

    • linda2148 says:

      Are you the “blog” police?

    • Lol says:

      Dear Violation,

      You are in violation of being a party pooper.

    • Lol says:

      Dear Violation,(Jill Assistant)

      You are in violation of being a party pooper. Tell you boss Jillousy, it’s a blog, more press for Jill. Lynn is actually doing her a favor. Ask Jill to ask her self, what do you care what people think of you (JILL) anyways? The world didn’t end, sorry for you (Jill).
      If she didn’t act such like a witch then this blog would probably be titled Ihateluanndeleseppes.

    • T-REX says:

      Wow, blogs been out here for a long time, thanks “JZ’s newest assistant” for coming over here to give Lynn your opinion. Uhm, Violation-honey instead of wasting time posting here, maybe you want to venture over to Wikipedia and look up a little something we call the Constitution of the United States, and something called the First Amendment. It’s really a nifty read, so whenever you get done doing JZ’s scut work for the day, I would suggest you check it out.

    • krone says:

      Sounds like Dina and her “authorities”. Do the twitter police cover blogs too?

    • AZ Girl says:

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA……..right. Moron. Look up tread. Teresa’s head is on a platter, Caroline has been sent to her room and you are worried about Jill? If Jill would stop doing stupid stuff and go away I for one would be happy. You put yourself on reality tv you expose yourself to criticism.

    • codystl says:

      Violation – can you cite which WordPress terms of service or guidelines to which you are referring to?

    • Bwahahahahahaaaaa!!!! That is all… no it isn’t… BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    • Whisper says:

      Aren’t you about a year late?
      If your boss JZilla can’t get this blog taken down, what makes you think you can? Go back & tell her to Suck it!!

  17. NY'r says:

    I normally love your post. I think this one was just a way to of bashing Teresa.

    In all fairness, Teresa is an old country daughter. She was raised yes, to stand by your man. Do not ask questions on how he makes money. In other words a step back in time. With all the BS that dirty Joe has pulled, she is taking the reins standing up to be her own woman. She isn’t doing it for Joe, she is doing it for her children. Time is going to show that Teresa has a plan for her children & herself.

    Her brother and his wife. Let me just say I am from a large family, there is a sister in law who is extremely jealous. Through the years she has tried and thought she succeeded to make a rift with in my family. The things that rolled off her tongue was just pure evil. Teresa’s sister in law is like living a flash back with this in law we had.

    I didn’t see anything wrong with Teresa not bringing up the events of the christening at the fashion show. That was neither the time or place for it. She was trying to respect the event of the fashion show and the Manzo’s business. I give her a lot of credit. She has had to swollow her pride a few times, she did it & I think she deserves credit for that.

    Her brother and his relationship with his father. Well, knowing how old country Italians feel about their son and only son, I have to believe the son did something or lack of something. To me, that entire scene when he is begging his Dad to love him, was sad. Bro Joe had to have done something for that door to be shut. There was no pride coming from the father. I wonder why. I don’t think we’ll find out the trueth. So we’ll listen to his jealousy lies on that.

    Caroline, she is going through the empty nest syndrome. A lost momma. I do feel, that she knows Teresa’s long range plan and will encourage. Encourage till she Caroline breaks.

    Don’t kill Teresa for dirty joe’s doing and her upbringing to stand by your man. Admire her for trying to climb up out of that mess on her own. She has 4 young ones, she’ll put up with just about anything till she gets where she needs.

    • I hate Jacqueline says:

      Hi NY’r Your entitled to your opinion honey. But all fairness Teresa did lie about keeping the $250 k advance from her book. Well, she may go to jail for that. Look Barry Bonds in on trial just for saying he didn’t use steroids.
      I come here allot, don’t comment to much usually i have 10 other blogs to read lol, but I respect your opinion, I won’t bash you lol. I know how it feels. I got bashed on a site for slightly disagreeing and I said it nice and provided the link with the truth and wow, they were mean still.

      • cait says:

        IHJacqueline;
        well put. None of us should behave like the housewives..It’s annoying when ppl get hostile over some weird reality tv zlisters..I’m trying to have fun with these shows but this season oc and ny blows..jmo

    • Laura says:

      Standing by one’s man is one thing…standing by one’s man while the ship is sinking is another thing entirely. I think that the majority of the people here, not presuming to put words in anyones mouths/fingers….is that its hard to believe that things could be so bad, for so long with Joe and Teresa, how could she not see it? We watched her pull out bill after bill while shopping for furniture for their new house in S1 and then by S2, the whole country is in such a bad place financially, did Teresa really think her and Joe and other people in Franklin Lakes were above it? It was the blatant, in your face facts going on and Teresa was just oblivious to it??? That is the main thing that gets people riled up I think…

      • nic says:

        I believethat Teresa is one of those women who think if they ignore or don’t acknowledge the situation, no matter how obvious it is, that it will go away or fix itself. Joe’s problem, other than the legality of his businesses, was his whole ‘Happy life, happy wife’ mantra. He never told Teresa ‘no’ until the money was gone so it made it easier for her to keep on keeping on like always.

        • Lol says:

          Kinda like when a teenager gets pregnant, she thinks if she ignores it the pregnancy will go away lol. It’s not funny that teenagers do that, it’s funny that Teresa is a grown woman and thinks that way.

      • NJBev says:

        Exactly.
        It’s important to remember that many of the viewers
        were not here during season 1, 2. even catching up on
        marathons does not give you the same info at the same
        pace, so you digest it differently.

        I watched Teresa slowly unfold over the last several
        years, she is very self-involved, so much to the
        point of being oblivious to the obvious!!
        She tells Caroline, over and over, yeah, I hear you-
        when she clearly cannot focus on anything other
        than what is upsetting or concerning her- IE: reuinion; or
        Kim G walking into fashion show. Even Andy
        telling her they’re not on tape delay and she continues
        to be oblivious.
        She has no self control, whatsoever. too self-absorbed.
        Another thing about WWHL-
        I believe that teresa took something before the show,
        a valium, xanax, something to calm her down.

      • Lol says:

        They both are frauds. Lying about the $250 k advance, T saying her tenants didn’t pay rent is to why they went bankrupt MEANWHILE they had section 8 tenants, which the government pays. Lying about Jewelry not owning any, the notary public stamp Joe stole, how T hid money from the government then denied when she got busted. The list goes on. Lets not forget how many times he been found guilty so far. Makes me KNOW that she knows about everything.

        • quincyil says:

          The Staten Island Mob Wives don’t know where the money is coming from, but they pay 900 for a pair of shoes. They are always suprised when the husband goes to jail for bank robbery.

          • BlueSky_Forever says:

            That’s another really disgusting show. Everything those women have – was it obtained from illegal activity? Did stuff “fall off the back of a truck?” Where do they get the $ to live in million dollar plus homes on S.I.? SMH.

        • alicia says:

          Pleeze- my husband is a real estate developer and he watches CNBC, reads the Wall SJ constantly. Theresa has to be really ignorant not to realize that rents were not being paid(IF that’s the truth.) Don’t they ever have an intelligent conversation about the state of their business ?
          What if her husband died ? Would she know anything ?
          If your husband is self-employed it is to your benefit to know what is happening weekly. If it were not for this show Theresa would be living above the pizza palace. Don’t give me this nonsense about old-school italian, I’m old school italian and I make it my business to know for both myself and my son’s future.

        • jeepers1941 says:

          To clarify section 8 tenants do pay a certain % of rent to the landlord, usually it is about 27 to 33% of total rental fees. So the government does not ever pay 100% of a section 8 tenants rent. The tenants are also made to pay for phone, cable, and a lot of times water, sewer, electric and heating bills. FYI only

    • PurplePrincess says:

      If she’s such a good mom who cares so much about her girls how come she didn’t use any of that 11 million to sock away college funds? No, instead she was busy buying big silly bows and playing dress up, tacky expensive parties, a big tacky house so that she wouldn’t have to live in an ‘unclean’ one, expensive cheap furniture(yes, there is such a thing) etc. etc. etc.! Stand by your man…give me a break!

      Jill Zarin was right(I know, don’t kill me!) the viewing public does have short memories. How soon we forget all of Teresa and her husbands dirty deeds. Why everyone is feeling sorry or bad for Teresa, she’s cashing those checks living the good life, meanwhile cheating hardworking people out of 11 million dollars.

      It’s true that people tend to root for the underdog and right now Teresa is that underdog.

      • nic says:

        I don’t have a short memory, I just feel Melissa and Joey should be seen for what they are- Teresa and Joe 2.0. It took a while for the Guidice’s dirty laundry to come out. I can patiently wait for the Gorga’s as well.

        • NJBev says:

          Good Point Purple!!
          In this one instanse I believe Jill was right!
          When it comes to Teresa people (esp those
          who did not watch Season 1, 2) have short
          memories. But only because of how badly
          her brother behaved on the first episode,
          he Totally Diverted the attention off of
          Teresa. I watched S1 and S2.-
          No matter how HORRIBLE Joey or M.
          act, I will remember that T and her hubs
          stole 11 million $$ from hard working
          people. 11 million $$$ and she shows up to
          the fashion show in $3500 Louboton Boots!
          (someone tell me how to spell that word).

          Too bad for Jill that no one forgot what she did-
          and we won’t because Bethenny is not invisable
          to us.
          We can’t see the people that T and Joe screwed,
          so it’s easier to forget them-

          • krone says:

            Somewhere out there is a former tenant of slumlord Juicy who won a judgement against him in court. S/he didn’t collect because of the bankruptcy: meanwhile T-anderthal has hair stylists doing hers and the kids’ hair for a party,- and not in a salon but at her home! I don’t know how the Guidices sleep at night but I do believe in Karma.

            • quincyil says:

              I remember reading that on a facebook page. Someone lived in squallor because Joe did not keep the building up as he was supposed to do.

              • BlueSky_Forever says:

                It goes way back to last year, but I remember a woman who was injured? but because of the bankruptcy Juicy couldn’t fix problems with the apts….story was Juicy wasn’t paying water, electric, etc bills & the apartment buildings he had bought (and mortgaged to the hilt!) were falling apart. Get this – the banks probably sold those buildings at foreclosure auction for low prices. Wonder who bought them???

                • krone says:

                  If I remember correctly, the stairs were in disrepair and this person was injured,- a real injury. Probrably one of those “section 8” tenants who are to blame for the Guidice’s bankruptcy; you know, the reason why they had to file in the first place?

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        It’s so true the awful things Juicy & T have done are not known if all you see is the Bravo RHONJ show. Juicy is a crook – and in my book so is T. She comingled money, did not file tax returns for 3 freaking years (funny how she & Juicy don’t talk about THAT!) but when they file their bankruptcy docs they actually had the nerve to file FAKE tax returns! I think they will get hammered when the IRS gets done with them. Ever hear of “seized acquisitions?” That’s what the IRS has the power to do. Seize your assests to pay your past taxes & fines. People can do jail time for not paying their taxes too. Wesley Snipes comes to mind. How do these people have the nerve to continue doing RHONJ with all this hanging over their heads? Boggles the mind. The least of their worries is this overblown fight with Joe Bro & Melissa. It seems to me it all goes back to what they learned at their parent’s knee. How to get along, obey the law, pay what you owe, do not steal!!! It did pull on my heart strings to hear the old man say to Joey “And I am proud of you” to the crying Joey at the baby’s christening. To me it looks like Juicy was trying to provide for T the way his bil was providing for his wife. Joey was building his ridiculous mansion before T & Juicy. And then it all came crashing down. Do you think Juicy & T would be in all this trouble if they had stayed off RHONJ? Their family has done this before – Juicy’s brother had his own huge bankruptcy just a few years ago. Why does this family think they can get away with fraud and not get caught?

        T was living her dream…got on RHONJ & look what happened. Now Melissa is chasing her dream to be a pop star. Meanwhile Bravo is laughing all the way to the bank people.

        • krone says:

          Isn’t Richard Hatch of Survivor now in prison on tax fraud charges? allegedly………

          • BlueSky_Forever says:

            yes, he’s had his fight with the IRS. Can’t stand him – he never paid taxes on his winnings from the Survivor show, & is still battling the IRS from what I’ve read. Maybe the Donald can help him out.

    • klmh says:

      NY’r:
      With all of the above posts concerning Teresa and her antics, have you now seen the light? Do you see the proof that Joe is not the only felon in this family, or are we to believe she was too stupid to mention her business or expensive list of jewelry and valuables when declaring bankruptcy? Granted, she is stupid, but she thinks the rest of us are too, and we here, will hold her feet to the fire.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        that reminds me…remember when Juicy & T reported all the jewelry “stolen?” Seems like someone posted a link to a story about that. Meanwhile even after that insurance ( starts with “f” & ends with “aud”) she showed up wearing a very expensive diamond bracelet. T isn’t wearing all the real jewelry anymore heh heh. Maybe it’s buried in someone’s back yard with all the $.

        • klmh says:

          I don’t believe Joe hid that jewelry. Teresa didn’t want to give it up to pay their bills.
          Im curious though. Could Joey have been the contractor/architect for T+J’s home? Maybe he was involved in building it and got stiffed because of the bankruptcy. Just a guess….

  18. I hate Jacqueline says:

    I am jumping on the I hate Jacqueline Laurita Campaign STAT!
    Putting a ham in your dress on national LIVE TV to make it look like a make private parts?
    She so wanted drama to happen. You could see it in her face and interviews. Yes, caller was right, her face doesn’t look the same. She has had too much work done. Doesn’t look natural at all. She better stop before she gets what Tamra Barney has. Did you all ever notice when Tamra squints she only has them wrinkles on the side of her nose and rest of face has none? Like Anthony says from Jersyliscious, “when you go bald don’t fight it it makes it look worse, especially when you age, don’t fight it” Something like that lol.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      That ham up her dress was horrible. But she doesn’t give Andy much to work with – his never ending work done question, that throw the bore a bone Ashley question and then the ham…..pretty sad.

      • Lol says:

        That is something that a hmm wait, I was going to say teenager but I can’t see a teen age girl doing that. Never mind.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Her face did look incredibly odd last night. I used to think she was really pretty. Something is different.

      • Lol says:

        All that damn botox and injections. It’s like when your Mom first lets you wear make up. She gave you the speech that the tip to wearing make up is to make it look like you don’t have any on. No one had a talk with J about that with work done. You think she would of learned from seeing Lauri and Lynn from RHOOC.

      • klmh says:

        She looks the same to me, although she has lost weight, and maybe it just looks longer instead of rounder?

  19. midwesthousewife says:

    This is a big day for me as I have been following (addicted) to this blog for a year and I am finally posting! It is funny to think I feel I know you all and you have no idea I am sitting out here. Thank you to the many wordsmiths who have made me laugh on gloomy days! Whatching T on WWHL made me downright empathetic towards her. She looked and sounded like a totally broken woman. Prior to that I really had no feelings regarding her besides the fact that dull lightbulbs make me giggle. I really don’t think this woman could calculate her way out of a paper bag and I think that may be why I feel bad for her. She made bad choices (beginning with choice of husband) and is suffering those consequences but I kinda feel like I am watching an already beaten dog get whipped some more. And yet I sit here waiting for this exact thing to happen to JZ, LuAnn, Kelly and Tamara – what is wrong with me? I think it is because the calculate every action and word. I just don’t see T as smart enough to do that. And, in my humble opinion, Kathy is just Jersey’s version of Luann – stirring up trouble at inappropriate times/places. Note to self: avoid women wearing dresses with one shoulder strap.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Nice post and you made me giggle too!

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Welcome – and I totally agree!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Hi midwesthousewife! Every time I watch these shows, I also wonder what is wrong with me. I think this blog is not only fun, but sort of a support group. I know my husband appreciates it because he doesn’t have to listen to me go on about these shows as much anymore. And I don’t have to feel crazy knowing he must be wondering why I keep watching these shows when all they do is annoy the living hell out of me.

      • midwesthousewife says:

        lol – my husband feels the same way! But, as I sit here laughing, he still makes the mistake of asking what is so funny. As I answer I see the look of regret cross his face – then he starts laughing. He prefers the comments here over my show recaps!

    • cait says:

      hahhaa…great comment Midwest. I agree with you, I really don’t want to feel sorry for T, but she looks sooo miserable. Yes, I am also starting to wonder/be wary of the one shoulder strap wearers haha.

    • Lol says:

      I don’t think anyone could be as manipulative and pot stirring witch as LuAnn is. I wonder why the media is so easy one her?

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      Welcome to the blog Midwesthousewife. No one in my real life watches these shows. My husband keeps telling me that “if you watch garbage then your mind will become garbage” so now I watch when he’s not around lol. He saw a little of the crazy fight on Mob Wives….uh oh I switched channels quick. These insane shows are my secret obsession & less fattening than chocolate!

  20. plainviewsue says:

    Your opening paragraph took the words out of my mouth!!! Nobody annoyed me more than Caroline. Who is she to tell people how to behave, what to do, etc.?? Caroline, you are not perfect. Far from it.

    I actually loved when Teresa called her out on it and said she is the matriarch of her family! Granted, she may not know what that word means, but at least she basically told Caroline to bug off!!!!

    Let’s face it. Caroline and Louann have the same issues with their roles. Neither one of them are relevent, so the only way they can have a storyline is to butt into everyone else’s lives.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Except Caroline does it on her own – while Lulu pretends to be doing it for Jill. Of the two I prefer Caro – she bugs me – but I think she’s coming from a better place.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      The difference between Caroline and Jill is that Caroline doesn’t try to control things behind the scenes. She’s just out there with it. That is far less annoying than Jill’s nice/innocent act. I hate them both.

    • krone says:

      I know where T got the word “matriarch” (I think) Remember when Caroline summoned danielle to the “sit down”? In her TH, Danielle said something along the line of Caro being matriarch of that fambly but she (Danielle) was the matriarch of hers. (Or maybe she said it to her girls? I just remember her saying it.

    • boston02127 says:

      @ plainviewsue “granted she may not know the meaning of the word” OMG that just hit me really funny. LOL

  21. rhwaddict says:

    sorry if this is off topic but wasn’t sure where to post…..do you or anyone else reading have any idea what happened between dina and Caroline Manzo??? When she left the show they seemed to be on great terms and now it appears (via twitter, etc….lol) that they don’t speak, but I have not been able to find any press about this at all….did I miss something?? I cant be the only one to pick up on this. thanks!! xo

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I also read an article that said that Dina was at Teresa’s launch party, not the one at the Brownstone. Things that make you go hmmmmmm.

    • quincyil says:

      I thought Dina going to Teresa’s Party was odd too.

      At first, I thought Dina was tyring to stay away from all things NJ RH, but why did she go to Teresa’s Party.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Dina tweeted that she was working on her new show for HGTV and she was closer to Teresa’s party so she was going to stop by on her way home.

  22. housewifeaddict says:

    Bravo’s formula:

    Bring in a HW who has agreed to cause drama with another ‘established’ HW.

    Experiment – FAIL.

    Evidence:
    Cindy chicklets taking on Ramoner – Cindy is as interesting as watching paint dry
    Peggy (who?) taking on Alexis (only Peggy could make us feel sorry for Alexis)
    Melissa coming out full barrels against Teresa. Too much too soon. Smells of desperation.

    Much better to follow Atlanta’s formula – new girl (Phaedra) that no one likes, who slowly worms her way into their hearts.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I have to admit, I am slow to warm to new people also. I tend to not trust people until I get to know them a little and then I open up. It doesn’t seem terribly strange to me.

      • Lavalady says:

        I am the exact same way, iheart. I would never do what Melissa did and invite someone out with me after meeting them briefly, one time, which I think is what Melissa did with the 2 Kims.

        I have a good number of old and new friends, but I am not into “instant” friendships. I like to get to know people gradually. I have observed several times where “instant” friendships went very wrong. I guess that is why I am more cautious.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          Exactly!

          I felt the same way about inviting the two Kims. Especially because Melissa said she didn’t know her, but she knew of her. That made me think she wanted to make sure her little Halloween outing was filmed.

          Why would anybody in their right mind get involved with Kim G? She’s not only a trouble maker, but seems very unstable to me. I’d be worried.

  23. Karen says:

    Good Blog Lynn,
    I have to say that this year both NY and NJ have some weird kind of darkness thats permeated the shows. Granted i believe bethenny was the saving grace for NY but i certainly didnt think Danielle was for NJ. Its just that theyve all become a bit harder, faker, meaner and desperate to have a story line where before, i felt they were who they were.
    Okay, this melissa vs. teresa thing. no winners. personally i dislike teresa intensely and for the life of me, have NEVER understood, not from day one why she was a fan favorite.
    I have to question all these comments on the poor gorga parents, has no one realized that there is something seriously wrong with both teresa and her brother joe? the gorga trigger or switch? what a quaint way of describing borderline personality disorder. how did two kids grow up to behave this way? me thinks the parents who everyone feels so sorry for may have had a tiny bit to do with it.
    their both extremely sick people. i mean deeply disturbed. Everyone else on the show, ie carolyn , melissa, jacqueline, et al, just annoying and sh**t stirring ( melissa with reason i believe) but not really ill like teresa is. Actually i think Danielle and teresa are more alike than teresa and melissa. Look past the obvious. their both D and T deeply disturbed albiet in different ways. you can call me an arm chair psychologist by all means, after all, isnt that what we do every week without giving them a diagnosis?
    as for Carolyn, clearly the fun has gone out of it for her. Its not about HER family anymore. Can Albert think of new ways to stay away from being alone with her? this poor woman, i mean just look at him when hes with her, barely tolerating is how he responds. and Lauren pretty much summed up her life story. Now that her brothers are gone she may get a little of her moms attention. Thank God Ashley wasnt there and im stunned at how young carolyn and kim g really are. i thought they were late 50’s for sure.
    im not watching NY this year , ive watched snippets and its awful. NJ is the same so far and frankly i dont really care to watch an entire show revolving around two pivotal people who truly need mental health intervention. its not funny. Its like watching kelly non stop on her own show. Bravo needs to stay with the BH’s or the NY of old. Unfortunately i guess the people that raise their hands to do this kind of thing are often deeply wounded and unlike bethenny, dont know it, nor do they want to change or grow and its just disgusting, not amusing. More and More i think Andy is an awful person for not only exploiting them but doing it so maliciously. there are no mazels here.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Did you see how T’s mom had the trigger too – going after Kathy like that. Urgh.

      • If you had it like this says:

        Yes! She was like and old Teresa chasing Kathy! You can see where Teresa and Joe get it. Remember when T flipped the table and said everyone in her family flips a table at some point?

      • Karen says:

        yes i did! i can imagine all the moments of joe and teresas lives being attacked like that and turning into the people they are today because of it. and LOL at teresa with her mommy does everything comments constantly now… poor teresa has to go to to go to book signings and shock MAKE MONEY!!!! she actually acts like its working hard to support her family now that joe is in a bit of trouble ( that she had NO idea about of course )

        • NJBev says:

          YES!!!
          I thought the Mom was diverting the attention
          away from herself, because SHE was supposed
          to be watching the kids. she ran to see the fight
          and left the kids!!

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Teresa and her brother both fly off the handle. I’m sure they learned that behavior by observation.

        • NJBev says:

          @ Iheartalavera,
          i am being nosy, i am so curious about
          your name. how did you come up with it?
          pls. don’t take offense…
          just curious, i would love to ask
          everyone how they came up with
          their name!

          • ihearttalavera says:

            No offense at all! It’s terribly boring. When my husband and I spent some time in AZ and NM, I fell in love with Mexican Talavera pottery. I was on Ebay and I was going to bid on some plates, and I needed to quickly come up with a name. So stupid! Since I used it once, and it’s easier to keep the same user name for things of that nature, I just stuck with it. Plus, it’s NEVER taken. Now that I’ve been on the blog awhile and see the funny names, I wish I would have used GO TO SLEEP!!! I posted once on RCH’s blog and I used that name instead. My real name is Mindy. I apologize in advance if you had to go take a nap after reading this very boring story.

            • Kansas Girl says:

              Oh! Thanks for explaining that. It’s a good name. My theory (just to make you laugh) was that you’re a fan of a Nascar driver named TA Lavera. Mind you, I know nothing about Nascar. It just sounded like a race car driver’s name.

              I’ve regretted choosing my name. I fear the state name brings up such negative expectations in people. And I’m a little old to be a girl. A friend of mind recommends “Mulch” and says that’s never taken!

              • BlueSky_Forever says:

                Kansas I love hearing from the heartland!

              • ihearttalavera says:

                Ha! Nope, not a Nascar fan. That did make me laugh though. I like your name also. I always wonder which state everybody in, I think it gives an interesting perspective.

                • NJ Bev says:

                  Thank-you!! I think
                  that’s very interesting,
                  especially when you
                  take into account
                  that I thought
                  you loved Aloe Vera.
                  for real……. 😉

            • Lurker Also says:

              LOVE TALAVERA! Got my own pieces, also on eBay 😉

  24. WindyCityWondering says:

    IMO, Teresa plays stupid and knows exactly what she is doing. This is her year to be humble and let her “family” make her a martyr. She knows broJo’s behavior is way worse than her behavior so she is betting that fans will take her side if she doesn’t slam him.
    And while I don’t like Caroline, I do give her props for being wary of the Gorga clan and being supportive of Teresa as this unfolds. Caroline is all about family and she is staying out of the mess that is the Gorgons! Both Albert and Caroline looked like they were at DeCon 5 at the fashionshow.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      It is a real place of business. Albert probably had to be coaxed into having the show there.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Considering the track record of the RHNJ – they had to have major insurance riders on this event!

  25. Error404 says:

    Yet another great blog Lynn!

    I won’t bother to read jay’s blog, as last week it was not neutral at all. No amount of Ramona Pinot can get me happy enough to read some stupid “isn’t Caroline the perfect mom!” garbage and not want to scream,

    And kadoize for speaking the truth no matter how many people keep telling you that saint teressa really gave that $11mil to orphana

    • housewifeaddict says:

      He was more neutral this week.

      • PurplePrincess says:

        I agree! I’m glad Lynn isn’t buying the woe is me act Teresa is pushing! Not only did she not give any of that 11 million to an orphange she didn’t bother putting any away for her girls college tuition AND then went out and spent &60,000 on drapes AFTER filing for bankruptcy in the tune of 11 million. If that doesn’t scream selfish idiot I don’t know what does!

        • iceNfire says:

          College tuition? She didn’t even have money for the baby’s Halloween costume. Gym teacher indeed!

          • vilzvet says:

            Yeah it made me pretty sick to the house featured last night with all the furnishings, and all that stuff was supposed to be GONE at the auction to help pay off some of their creditors.

  26. WindyCityWondering says:

    Alright this is bugging me – Kathy was at Melissa/Joey’s table at the christening – she had a ringside seat and heard and saw everything that went down with Joey and Teresa. As far as unattended children – Joey was oblivious to his (as was his wife) and then went on to be totally disrespectful to his parents! While I want to give Kathy a chance – she isn’t getting any points from me.

    • PurplePrincess says:

      I don’t think she was at their table. Watch closely, Bravo is extremely gifted at editing. I thought she was too but, after watching it a third time(did I just admit that? lol) I don’t think she was. If you look a the the scene where the sister get up and start yelling at Teresa they show the majority of the table and I didn’t see Kathy or her family sitting around that table nor was Teresa’s dad. I think they made it look like that. Again, Bravo is very gifted at editing!!!

      • housewifeaddict says:

        I think T is thinking the worst of Kathy. I suspect Kathy got up and saw Gia crying and the baby stroller, and pulled them out of there. She would have done that for any kids she saw. She wouldn’t have even mentioned it – but T accused her of not being there for Melissa (by high tailing it out of there). It seems to be one of those situations where all the trust is gone – both sides.

        I’m hoping for a fairy tale ending where this family does make up. I think their issues are real. Based on how T is acting now – I’m not going to hold my breath.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          Theresa cannot take criticism or fault of any kind. It’s not good. I was wondering the same thing as Lynn – Why oh why didn’t they show the scene where Kathy was there for T’s kids???

          • NJBev says:

            Midwestwife said upstream that Kathy
            reminded her of Luann.
            as of now, i agree.

          • BlueSky_Forever says:

            maybe because it really didn’t happen? Kathy is a major sh*t stirrer. I really don’t like any of these people. Even Kathy’s husband would get on my nerves after awhile with all his “jokes.”

  27. PurplePrincess says:

    I find Caroline to be a self righteous bully! Who died and left her in charge. She’s a 48 year old woman who won’t make friends with another woman because her friend isn’t friends with them? Really Caroline, really? I think she’s a bored busy body. He kids aren’t that fabulous and she’s married to a man that would rather work than spend time with her. So I’m not buying the ‘she’s great’ bit!! What, she raised three adult children who hasn’t gotten into any trouble? Big deal! Contrary to popular belief there are a lot of twenty somethings who hasn’t gotten into trouble. Her kids are not the exception they’re the norm. I just can’t stomach a no it all!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      She really is. Yesterday I said I couldn’t put my finger on the reason why I don’t like her. Lynn nailed it in this blog. You did also with this comment. Plus I hate it when people think you have to fix any and all family problems. Some family problems are not fixable and we are better off sometimes just letting it go. I wish someone would have told her to go F herself last night. She deserved it.

      • PurplePrincess says:

        Exactly! Why didn’t someone tell her to F off? I wanted Kathy to tell her off! I’m like why do they let Caroline boss them around like that? Kathy didn’t have to get indignat but she could’ve said something. In all honesty Kathy looked a bit uncomfortable by it all. Can you imagine how she felt with busy body Caroline, Teresa and Teresa’s mom screaming at her?!

        • ihearttalavera says:

          Kathy did seem uncomfortable. I think maybe she didn’t tell her off because they were at the Brownstone and C does act like it’s her “house” so she may have felt that wasn’t the right place to do it. Hopefully someone will do it soon!

    • klmh says:

      I guess Im the only one that can put up with Caroline here, but I think she was trying to help Teresa. She knows T. isn’t the best communicator. She also knows how valuable family is and feels she can help T. do the right things to reunite with hers. I give her credit for trying to help, but she does think she hung the moon when it comes to righteousness.
      By the way, Im not saying I agree with her, because sometimes, as a few posters have mentioned before, distance is the best solution to family fighting.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        It looks like T takes up Caroline’s idea to “write a letter.” So now the letter causes the next big fight. lol. Putting this family back to gether again will now be the theme for the entire season. While they stop busting up each other, we know they go off to (Punta da Cana? ) and manage to get into a fight with total strangers. What is that old saying…you can take ’em out of Jersey but you can’t take the Jersey out of ’em lol. So what will they do in season 4…ughhh!

  28. If you had it like this says:

    Great blog Lynn! I haven’t decided if I like Melissa or not. She seems a lot like Teresa. Very cocky, bragging about herself and her husband and kids all the time. In other words, no humility. Maybe that’s her age. Who knows. I definitely like Kathy and her husband Rich. I love when Rich told Joey G at the dinner table “alright, relax!” when Joe started to flip the Gorga switch. Teresa is one of those frustrating people who is never going to admit her part in anything or any wrongdoing. Ever. I imagine it will go that way this season with the family feud. I think one of the things that bothered me the most this episode is Caroline, as well. Her guilty until proven innocent act really sucks. Why treat Kathy and Melissa so badly just because she is friends with Teresa? She has no idea what the whole story is at this point and she should know that Teresa is not exactly a stellar person and model citizen. She treated Kathy with derision at the end when Teresa was the raging bull, as usual. It looks like next week Kathy goes to talk to Caroline and Caroline is downright rude and dismissive. Ugh. I get so sick of the double standards and hypocrisy with these ladies….

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      You hit the nail on the head. It is a generational thing, with Melissa. She’s young and proud of her and LilJoe’s accomplishments. She’s in a rush to tell viewers what she has and doesn’t seem to realize (?) she coming off as a braggart. She’s in a town of fluff and stuff, everyone has the best car, house, kids, clothes it is a competition not only with TMAN but all her neighbors too!

      I also loved Rich calming LilJoe down. LOL That GorgaSwitch was taught to them by the dad and can only be calmed by medication. First season Tre said she always watched her father and brother flip tables and finally did the same. WOW What a family. You could bet there is no heirloom china in the Sr.Gorga house.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        I have a feeling if we had footage of Teresa eight years ago, we wouldn’t be able to tell her and Melissa apart. She’s just a younger, cockier version of T. As long as M and her husband don’t end up taking financial advantage of others so they can live beyond their means, I MIGHT like them. I’m still on the fence, but she didn’t make it easy for me to like her with her behavior on the catwalk last night. Get over yourself!

    • cait says:

      yeah.. but the only thing is, we as viewers probably know a lot less than caroline does..she lives in that town..she probably knows a thing or two about the gorga’s and wakiles (sp) that we wouldn’t be privy too. Remember how rude and dismissive she was towards Kim Granny-tell last year? She may have had reason to be rude and dismissive to them…
      I don’t like caroline, btw.

      • If you had it like this says:

        You may be right. She may know things we don’t but you’d think she wouldn’t want anything to do with Teresa knowing the things she knows. I just remember her saying in the first season that she doesn’t like you before she likes you or something like that. It’s just such a bizarre attitude to have.

  29. Noreen says:

    Not that I’m Team Teresa, but Melissa is 100 times worse. Can you imagine what she was like highschool, you know, being a peacock and all and strutting her stuff?

    • cait says:

      oh yuck….I am not a fan. I will kill every radio in my house if she becomes a popstar

  30. JenFromCincy says:

    Team Neither.

    I don’t feel like I can lay responsibility on TG for the Christening just because I have problems with the things she’s done. It was Melissa who felt like calling her out on the fakeness during the Christening. Then it was Joey who started pounding the table like an ape and calling her names.

    I definitely feel she should be held accountable for things she’s involved in, but she shouldn’t have to take blame that isn’t hers.

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      Jen,
      Where in Cinci? Me Too!!!!!

      • JenFromCincy says:

        East side, Duchess, in Clermont County. Hope you weathered the storm okay. 🙂

        • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

          It got a bit ugly, I will say that! Had the dogs all leashed up and ready to hit the basement. I am dead center of Cinci. Grew up in Fairfield, then moved to Hyde Park/Oakley area and now we are in Norwood. I love the old victorian houses over here!

          • JenFromCincy says:

            The houses there are fantastic. Haven’t been in a while, though.

            Hub works on the west side and takes the Lateral every morning. I’ll tell him to wave tomorrow to our local royalty. 😉

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      Jen, team neither too. SMH who would want to be on any of these moron’s teams?

      • JenFromCincy says:

        “Not I,” said the duck. It’s like choosing between diptheria and malaria. Both of which I would prefer to contract rather than being adopted into that whacked out family.

  31. Mary says:

    Lynn, I rarely post on your blog but I’m a faithful reader and absolutely love your perspective on the wives.

    Last night was so enjoyable to watch! It’s like watching a bunch of low-class barbarians on a comedy show. Here are some of my random thoughts:

    I agree that Kim G is very immature and a suck-up (my 2 cents) but damn she is looking fabulous. I want the name of her doctor. Amazing work, the woman looks 10 years younger.

    Caroline Manzo is a cow. I’m so bored with her and her ugly children. Who does she think she is to go around telling others what to do? Then she behaves with no class at all being rude to Kathy. She should make-up her mind about her attitude. And that daughter, what is her deal? Her “designs” make everyone look like prostitutes.

    Teresa G: Poor thing. Caroline was right about one thing, they all were talking about her and looking at her like the animal she really is. Wow, she sure is swimming upstream this season. Her husband is passive-aggressive to her and it appears the entire family is falling apart. Teresa has emasculated him quite effectively. Mr. Pizza man is angry and mean. Funny how you never hear her brag about how much he wants to “do” her now. Yuk, I’m glad that line of conversation is nothing but a mere bad memory now.

    Melissa G: I like her okay. She’s another Teresa but so much prettier. Is she smarter? No, they are both morons but I appreciate the story line. It’s so much fun. Apparently she is the only sista that inherited good looks, because the others look like ugly evil stepsisters.

    Albie & Critopher are pathetic. Will they ever wean from mommy’s boob? Isn’t Bravo paying for their apartment?

    The New York Chicks: I am so sick of LuMann, Kuku, Beaver and Evil Jill. And Ramona isn’t helping with all that Pinot talk. I hate she is being portrayed as a drunk. Or is she a drunk. I’ve sworn that I won’t watch and just need to turn off the TV. The show is BORING. I’m not a Bethenney fan (much) but I miss her sense of humor and balance she brought to the show. I’m thrilled for her success, primarily because it makes the other wives so JEALOUS.

    That’s it. I just wanted to say thank you and keep up the great work. Hugs and kisses!

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      “Caroline’s a cow… And that daughter, what is her deal? Her “designs” make everyone look like prostitutes.

      ITA. Clownetta is once again looking quite bovine in this Joisey rodeo. She’s struggling to find out if she’s the clown or the cow! As for Lauren, I don’t want to insult her look as she’s a innocent BUT who would get their makeup done by her? Get me Olivia of Jerseylicious STAT! I’d rather look like a Saturday night ho, than a Sunday morning whore! LOL THERE IS A DIFFERENCE! 😉

      • ihearttalavera says:

        I love Jerseylicious! I have to watch it when my husband is in another room because otherwise, he just complains and ruins it for me, but it’s so worth it. I watched the last episode with my mom and we had a blast!

      • ihearttalavera says:

        And you’re right, there is a difference. That is hysterical!

  32. leighmarker says:

    I am the odd man/woman out here, I thought the ham up the dress was pretty darn funny (sick humor?). Maybe it was from lack of sleep or too much wine but I lmao.
    It bothers me (also) that Tree did some rotten nasty things and I think Karma has found her.
    I like Kathy so far, I dont think she has done much to make someone not like her actually. Melissa is Tree just younger agreed. But Joe Gorga mentioned something about abuse for 10 years (1st episode) ? what was that about? Tree and her Joe have been married for 10 yrs. there has to be more to the story……I am not going to make a decision either way-looked what happened to ms. sonjia after one season…she turned into a different person all together.
    Thanks for the blog Lynn!

    • Mary says:

      Wow, I agree! Only time will tell.

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      Juicy is bully so maybe that’s what Bro Joe is talking about. T said on WWHL that by the end of the season, the 2 Joes stand back to back to see who really is shorter. lol who cares!

  33. WindyCityWondering says:

    Why isn’t Cristofer working at the Brownstone? Why isn’t he going to college (his brother did)? The whole “find what you are passionate about” line sounds like bs to me. And mommy and daddy gave Lauren a bunch of money for her Face boutique – and Caroline says she won’t be getting their support much longer. She went to make up school but where is the business school stuff she needs to run her business. So are they being pushed out of the nest or just fed up with the mama bird? Too many mixed messages for me!

    • vilzvet says:

      Well there have been rumors and at least one Bravo tweet that the boys may be getting their own show, hence the apartment they took.

    • vilzvet says:

      Well there have been rumors and at least one Bravo tweet that the boys may be getting their own show, hence the apartment they took

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      they have tasted the Bravo kool aid & are addicted to the fickle flicker of fame

    • Sunny says:

      I’m left wondering what either on of them (Albie & Chritofer) are doing to earn a living? Did they say? Did I miss that? Who would watch a show about those two anyway? Puh-leaze!

  34. coocoopuffs78 says:

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! As usual Lynn you never disappoint. It’s like you’re reading my mind!! I rarely post but I swear this season is going to make my head explode before I even get to the reunion (but I can’t stop watching). First of all I’m not buying Teresa’s little innocent act for a second! Her brother may have a hot temper but I do believe she knew exactly what she was doing by going over to his table at the Christening. She’s very manipulative and clearly she’s manipulated some of the Jersey fans. As soon as she stormed away from Kathy after causing a scene by yelling and screaming, the first thing she did was run to her Mommy and get her upset. Why bring your elderly mother into this? Be a big girl and admit that you left your children unattended because you were egging that moose head husband of yours on to fight your brother. Melissa may not be perfect but she seems a bit more grounded. I don’t mind her sisters much. The way I see it is she needs back up in order to deal with that Gorga clan. Why anyone would want to marry into that family is beyond me. Let’s just pray that her kids inherit her hairline and temperament. Caroline needs to get a life. Bravo should really consider replacing her. She adds nothing of value to the show. Her self righteous and sanctimonious attitude is getting old. I hit the mute whenever she’s on because I literally hate the sound of her voice. News flash sweetie you’re kids aren’t all that. They’re what the rest of America calls average. Get a life and stop trying to run everyone else’s. Kim G … just go away. Andy seemed kind of annoyed with Teresa last night on WWH. She’s rude, dense and totally unprofessional so stop having her on.

    • PurplePrincess says:

      ITA! This sounds like every comment I’ve made today. Funny thing is I never comment either but have been ready for over a year.

      • PurplePrincess says:

        that’s supposed to ‘reading’ not ready 🙂

        • ihearttalavera says:

          I was so happy to find this blog, I posted the very first time I was on here… and I never post online about anything! It’s very fun. Welcome!

  35. Kelly Anne says:

    What did Teresa’s mom say to Kathy?

  36. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Loved the recap Lynn. You should do this professionally! LMAO 🙂

    Lynn, I am so on board with you on the TeamMellyMel issue. I can’t forget the grifting, disgraceful actions of TMAN and JuiceyRubble towards their creditors, many of them small business men. I do believe in honor amongst thieves, so the ripping off of people v. faceless corporations is a million times worse. These aren’t CO’s who are insured, but contractors who purchased material out of pocket or on credit, had to pay employees and were cheated by these dirty ass thugs. I can’t forget Tree’s psychotic behaviour where she taunts people, engaging them in conversations to then flip out and act innocent after the shit storm, making herself the victim. She is constantly challenging her targets as seen with Danielle, KimG and now Melissa. After that christening fiasco, she calmly walks up and kisses Melissa. The bitch is certifiable! Did she want another confrontation, or did she know Melissa wouldn’t attack her at the Brownstone? She’s just a bully. She IS the matriarch of her family as it seems she runs her parents too. She charged up her mother who immediately started to attack Kathy. Kat never said she was a bad mother. It was only after TMAN said Kathy kids could’ve watched the fight that Kathy said she grabbed hers kids too. I imagine that the Guidice kids have seen alot of brawls in their short lives.

    As for Melissa, I can understand why some would not take kindly to her showy ways. She is of a younger generation living what seems to be her fantasy life. When she says many envy her, I would believe that those in that Joisey circle would. She’s young, pretty, with a big house, shops alot, has a loving husband and great kids. Some of the hags would hate her just for her youth and looks, but to have a man, children and wealth definitely puts the evil eye on her. Once LilJoe fell for MellyMel, I think the hold Tree and Mama had on their boy was O V E R ! With each successful milestone the young couple had, Tree felt encroached upon. She’s supposed to be the star of the family. Not her brother or his wife. Melissa will always be an outsider in that family as TMAN has made her out to be a jealous opponent and her mother believes everything she says. The parents will always favor Terrorista and her brood over LilJoe’s family. They’ll never go against her.

    • Rahrah says:

      do the Gorgas have a balloon payment due? I don’t Melissa’s shit smells any better than Teresa’s.

      Sound like on this blog Teresa’s only sin was befriending Jill Zarin.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Teresa and Joe spent money they stole – $11 million isn’t a mistake it is a way of life. Teresa went after Danielle with wild abandon and took no responsibility for the country club riot – her excuse of Danielle pushed her buttons? Not buying that either. IMO, she lies, cheats and never stops – that is why she is not liked. Jill Zarin has nothing to do with it.

      • Karen says:

        What blog have you been reading? Theres only been one mention of Teresa friending Jill today, treeman has more than enough of her own personality flaws without bringing in jill. Most describe het as an animal and unfortunately , that’s very accurate. I feel so sorry for Gia . You can see more and more how it’s affecting her

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        She befriended JillZarin, hated on Bethenny, while mimicking her book titles and insulted Sonja in her blogs. Jealous much? She and her dimunitive DonJuanaSeeYou, screwed over countless people in her quest to make herself and Milania “FABULOUS”!

        I think she only paid for the furniture as everything else was put on credit cards and IOU’s, including the boobs and fertility treatments for the last kid. The lovely Guidices also conspired to cheat the government of tax dollars and committed bankruptcy fraud by hiding assets like a MoFo.

        She taunts her victims, becoming a vicious animal, who claims to black out in order to justify her horrible behaviour as she makes herself the injured party. Finally, she has a simian look and a low hairline. Just saying.

      • cait says:

        rumor is, they do. I posted something upthread about it

    • Karen says:

      ITA amber

    • If you had it like this says:

      Agreed! Tree is the golden child of that family and Joey and his brood will always be second. That kind of dynamic causes problems in lots of families. I’m sure we’ve all seen or experienced that at some point and the resentment runs deep in those situations.

  37. Amy says:

    Lynn you are a rockstar! I missed the show due to our power going out. It us still out! Grrr I thank you for such a great recap! I wonder who woll take top prize this week. Can we make a clip art award? Lol

  38. ihearttalavera says:

    Another great blog, Lynn. Thanks, you’re amazing!

    So many things happen so quickly on these shows. I have a terrible memory but when I read your blog the next morning it’s like you were in my head taking notes. Well, except for yesterday’s blog re: Gretchen. Anywho…

    You nailed it with Kim G. Perpetual 13 year old. It is so embarrassing to watch her behavior. I feel sorry for her children. I would die if my mother was on TV acting like this. Plus I hate her for ruining ROH’s blog.

    Caroline was beyond annoying last night. As much as I hate to say it, this is the kind of person you actually want to see fail. Smug annoys the living hell out of me. She is beyond smug. She needs to be humbled.

    As for her boys getting their own show. I would rather pull my fingernails out one by one than watch. I think it will be a huge fail. I really don’t think they even did anything to make me not like them other than throw ham. Just yuck.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Yeah – I am not interested in watching Mama Manzo’s pansy ass boys go wild in Hoboken either. Ironic that it went from a Bravo spin off show to a webcast.

    • vilzvet says:

      I actually Kim G looked great last night. Did I care to see her again? Not really, it just reminds me of Danielle, and I have no desire to go down that road again, too depressing. But it was absolutely ridiculous of Teresa to again state that Kim G. must be “in her seventies”! Caroline had to shake her into reality by stating that Kim G. is only about 5 years older than Caroline, or about 55. Teresa never has a problem insulting other women, even if she has to grasp at straws to do so.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        ha ha you forgot KimG on the stripper pole!

        • BlueSky_Forever says:

          ROH did a great blog on KimG & the pole…& it got her into a bit of trouble. I wish ROH would write a book about her experiences blogging the KimG story

  39. Great blog Lynn! I like RHONJ a lot more this season because of Melissa, Joe and Kathy. I was never that crazy about RHONJ before they made cast changes. RHONJ hasn’t been a disappointment so far and I look forward to the upcoming episodes.

  40. klmh says:

    That’s what I couldn’t figure out. SH mentioned the balloon payment in 2012, but she also mentioned them being able to pay their bills, in a newer post, and the shows paycheck was allowing them to do that. So because they are employed by Bravo, they can now make house payments. They have a job. They also have a new business they are trying to set up. The link is below:

    http://stoopidhousewives.com/2011/05/23/real-housewives-of-new-jersey-melissa-and-joe-gorga-new-money-makin-scheme/

  41. WindyCityWondering says:

    IMO – Bravo knows they have to do something dramatic to keep a franchise relevent enough to keep viewer interest. Without Danielle coming back they added wives to interact with Teresa that would guarantee drama – we waited with keen interest for Melissa’s debut. We knew about the baptismal brawl long before it hit the screen. So RHNJ had interest before the season started.
    Bravo, didn’t do the same for RHNY when then knew their breakout star Bethenny was secure in their stable with her own show – and she hit numbers for them. They disregarded fans saying no Kelly, no Jill, no boring LuAnn – and now they are stuck with a franchise that isn’t holding viewers attention. IMO, Bravo wasn’t interested in continuing NY and put out a crap season so they can take this franchise out of the housewife mix by the book – fewer viewers, poorer ratings and fewer sponsors’ dollars being spent on it. Bravo knows how to make and how to break their franchises.

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      Maybe Bravo “thinks” they know how to entrap oops get more viewers for their reality shows. IMO they have screwed up. How many seasons of RHOC? I stopped watching 2 seasons ago. Can’t watch RHONY anymore, either. It took 3 attempts to watch RHONJ (kept falling asleep) so …. what next Bravo? B made herself into a rich woman off of Bravo, kudooz to her. Can there really be a season 4 of RHONJ after the Gorga’s fist fightin’ & feudin’ ?

      Does anyone remember Saturday Night Live’s gags with Gov. Paterson (former Gov. of New York)? He was relentless with the NJ jokes…they come near the end….

    • Suzieq says:

      Maybe that’s where we r going wrong with our anger about NY. Maybe instead of constantly telling bravo that we don’t like it (and they obviously could care less) maybe we should pay attention to the commercials and start contacting them!! Lol

  42. kbinldo says:

    Shameless plug! http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/8086743/rhonj_halloween_hags_men_in_drag.html?cat=39

    I also don’t get the outcome of last night’s poll. While I don’t like Melissa particularly, we’ve seen Tree do a lot worse than her. Maybe all the Melissa fans have Sprint phones?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      and her sisters have basement calling robots – that was a stupid poll.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Well there were posts above mentioning T’s connection to JZ. Maybe JZ had her people take care of this poll for T as a test run for the next poll that JZ is in. When I heard T won, I expected it to be 60/40. I could not believe it.

      • MAMAZ says:

        I do feel sorry for Gia. She is just a child and has no control over what her crazy family does.
        Didn’t Teresa and Melissa both say something in their blogs about not doing the show if it hurt their families? Well ladies, and I use the term loosely, it’s hurting both your families. Time to pull the plug.

    • Caitlin says:

      And the worst part about the poll results? It will only encourage more simian, “dese, dems does, I didn’t do nuttin” behavior. Uhhhhhh, I’m groaning……………

      • cait says:

        hahahaha

        • iceNfire says:

          The poll results are still bothering me. Maybe Andy didn’t want to get pushed again, maybe it was a condition of teresa showing up, maybe it was orchestrated by teresa. dunno but it just doesn’t makes sense.
          And teresa nicknaming herself Super T ? i prefer lowcase t

  43. K-Ros says:

    1st time posting! 🙂 I’m not sure about Melissa yet if she was more humble and likable I’m sure it’d be easy to be on her side since Teresa is so terrible. What was most telling to me from last nights ep was when jac talking head said “Teresa says hi or congratulations to ppl and all hell breaks loose”. Ppl must have a short term memory of the last fashion show when tree was just saying hi to Danielle. Mind you that was the story she stuck to and refused to take ownership of instigating. If her baby is close in age to the gorga baby why wasn’t she at the hospital to see the child? She couldn’t just attend and stay in the background she had insert herself while the cameras were conveniently there she knew exactly what she was doing.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Hello to you – nice post. You made me wonder why Teresa waited til the end of the event to approach Melissa and Joey – Bravo had to have given her some instructions as they were filming three housewives there.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Welcome K-Ros. I totally agree about Melissa. I just want her to be humble and pay her bills so I can like her! Is that too much to ask????

  44. California35 says:

    Great recap Lynn…thanks!

    Someone mentioned that you should make some money, and I think so too. You created this place that entertain us and has been standing for OVER a year. You allow us to write what we want and when we want. You do a lot of work for us, with the research, the recaps, the pictures, and the heat you take. I hope that you find a way to help you make money for all you do for this blog and us; please let us know how we can help. I do appreciate your hard work, and having a place to come to.

  45. Lol says:

    LOL, I just tried to purchase “ihatejillzarin.com” and it’s on back order. In other words, the domain name is in demand LMAO.
    I was trying to purchase it for a present to Lynn.
    Hey Lynn, It is available in .co .net .me .us. ca .org and I believe .info
    I would be happy to buy it for you. Respond please.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      That is so sweet! You should send JZ a tweet like she did to Alexis when she couldn’t get a dress. You know it’s in JZ’s basket. Or her husband bought it for her as a gift.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      That’s very sweet! I’m overwhelmed, someone would have to help me to figure out how to make it my own:) lol

  46. Teresa’s Bravo blog is up. I feel bad for Gia, Teresa said that the kids at school are making fun of her. 😦

    http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-3/blogs/teresa-giudice/theres-nothing-there?page=0,0

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      As her kids go out in the small world of where they live this will happen more and more. Gia is embarrassed by her parents’ behavior and they don’t understand why – that is sad.

    • PurplePrincess says:

      It didn’t embarrass Gia to see her mom flipping tables, chasing a woman down in a country club, assaulting her boss, having her bedroom furniture on websites because of potential auctioning, using obsence language, her dad’s DUI, her dads forgery charge(s), her mom straddling her dad on National TV, her moms constant talk of sex? I could go on and on. She’s so transparent! Whoever is writing her blogs deserves a raise. With all that being said, I do feel for the children. They do not ask for this and even if they did, it is up to the parents to make better choices regarding them.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        I guess her classmates weren’t watching all those shows. Only when her mom is being “bullied” by her uncle and auntie do the kids watch. Last night she said Gia watches as “she’s living it”. No mention of harassment then. Hmmm

        • If you had it like this says:

          I’m sure this isn’t the first time Gia has been made fun of and cried at school because of her parents and the show but it’s the first time Teresa’s mentioned it because she wants to make her brother and SIL look bad. Teresa would NEVER let anyone know that her kids were upset by her behavior. It’s the mean brother who’s causing all this.

          • dsc60 says:

            when Teresa was running around her bedroom as Super T I heard Gia say “stop mom, you’re embarrassing.” poor Teresa isn’t getting very good edits this year. I’m shocked that they didn’t show Audriana’s stroller during her fight with Kathy… shocked.

    • T-REX says:

      Then maybe Teresa needs to shutup, go away from Reality TV and raise her family in private! Look you goon-Teresa, you act inappropriately in the public, on a public TV show where you are paid to have your life broadcast to the world, and you expect sympathy?!?!? Should have thought of that before you made an *ss of yourself on television. Your kids get to pay for your insanity, oh and FYI you lunatic, you could have kept your kids off camera, but no you wanted to make some money off them too.

    • Karen says:

      Last year I hate to admit I wasn’t fond of little Gia , and this year I can see how much of an eye opener it’s been to this little girl that how she is being raised is not coming across as fabulous as her mommy tells her it is. It’s like she just became conscious of how sick her family is to the real world

      • nathania says:

        every time I have seen her on camera this year my heart just bleeds for her. poor kid.

    • coocoopuffs78 says:

      I feel bad for her kids despite the fact that they annoy me to no end. They can’t help who their parents are. Teresa still takes no responsibility for the part that she played in all the drama that’s happened. Seems to me like maybe Mrs. Know-it-all Caroline would have pointed that out to her if they were really good friends.

      • Karen says:

        That’s something that’s never made sense to me, carolines affection for Teresa. From everything we’ve seen of carolines values Teresa would be the last person shed defend. It must be that once you get in with caroline , you can do no wrong because it’s clear that Teresa has done no right for the last four years and to hear and see the things she and Joe do and say to their kids is reprehensible . If nothing else , I thought at least caro cared about kids.

        • Sunny says:

          OMG. You took the words right out of my mouth. This is exactly what I always think when I see Caroline with T!

    • If you had it like this says:

      I feel bad for Gia too. At the christening she looked devastated. She is obviously really close to her Uncle Joey and that must be stressful for her to see her mother fight with her uncle.

      I do think that Teresa’s painting a picture of herself as a calm, reasonable person who would never erupt or hurt her family is a bit disingenuous. She admitted to flipping a table but what about chasing Danielle around like a lunatic?? As long as it’s not family it’s okay?

    • ihearttalavera says:

      These women should never allow their minor children to be filmed. It’s just wrong.

  47. If you had it like this says:

    Melissa is the only one who hasn’t posted a blog. I think she’s eating some humble pie. She probably did not expect the backlash she’s getting.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Maybe she is taking a page from Jill’s play book and waiting for all the others to be in so she can respond and get the last word on Teresa….. no, sorry, only a faker would do that and Melissa is not a faker.

    • quincyil says:

      Well, if you dish it out…

      People have opinions. I think Melissa thought she could persuade the fans, but it seems they believe Teresa

      • If you had it like this says:

        The fans are on Teresa’s side. I think Melissa has come on too strong. You can’t come on an established show like you own the place and expect a good result.

        • quincyil says:

          Well, Melissa won in the sense that she bypassed her sister in law’s attempts to keep her off the show.

          I think the viewers see past Melissa’s smile because we listen to her words and watch her actions.

          • If you had it like this says:

            That is true. She certainly did win in that sense. And she’s won with Bravo and secured a place on the show, I’m sure.

            A lot of Melissa’s behavior may have to do with her age and immaturity. It’s almost like she’s playing house.

            • Caitlin says:

              ooooooooooooooooo, that does help to explain what I find to be her strange affect – good one!

            • WindyCityWondering says:

              Mel said she interviewed for RHNJ awhile ago – it was Bravo, not Teresa’s decision not to hire her then. At this point she should thank Teresa because that is the reason she is on the show now.

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        Now that we have seen the “real” Melissa she isn’t so great. She took 2 walks on the catwalk, because she can “rock the sh*t” out of that oufit. That’s cocky. Seeing Bro Joe call Teresa garbage was too much…so what if the family tiff is all T’s fault, that still doesn’t make Bro Joe look like a nice guy the way he treated T. They all seem to be awful, but IMO T came out of the outhouse smelling the least offensive.

    • cait says:

      They never do..hindsight is 20/20, I suppose.

      • cait says:

        sorry- I was responding to IFyouhaditlikethis’ original comment about Melissa not expecting a backlash to her behavior

  48. cdnfillie58 says:

    Thanks for the blog Lynn…gotta disagree on your take with Melissa. I’m starting to see a pot stirrer here. She kinda lost me a bit last night when she let Kim G come to the fashion show. Unless she was buried under a rock during last season, I’m sure she saw the goings on with Kim G…why include her in their halloween party and bring her back into the picture? I mean..really…Kim G again????

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kim D is related to Kim G and that has to be the invite to the fashion show. But Mel invited Kim G to her home and to party with her on Halloween. It is odd that Mel is hanging with the original shit stirring wannabee housewife because they have nothing in common.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        Well they do have something in common…the are both gunning for Teresa. Melissa prob. knew all about Kim G. and still chose to befriend her….maybe that is why she is not popular. I could not ever befriend someone who slams my family-ever. No matter what my family has done I would never let an outsider talk all that smack-I didnt not like that whole Kim G thing at all

      • karen says:

        what? the two kims are related?

        • BlueSky_Forever says:

          Kim G & Kim D are SIL – married to bros. Now Kim G is divorced & don’t know if Kim D is still married…uggghh I need to get a life ! Kim G is a major snake.

          • cait says:

            and hooking up (gag) with Michael Lohan..ot at the very least kissing him and wrapping her scrawny legs around him in an elevator
            Kim G, that is

          • Karen says:

            That explains alot to me blue, they are both awful

      • Whisper says:

        WSW,
        They do have something in common, it is their dislike for Tree.

    • kmuellfa says:

      IIRC, Melissa knows KD from shopping at her store. I think she said she invited KD to her party and KD brought KG.

      I don’t think she invited KG to her home.

      Remember, when Melissa met KG she didn’t trash Tree, I believe she said “the past is in the past” or something like that.

      • cdnfillie58 says:

        ah but both her and Kathy giggled when Kim G was trashing T. I don’t recall either one of them telling her to” not bring up my family”

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Melissa wanted another soldier in her war against her Teresa – Kim G fits the bill. She did say she invited Kim D to party because she was asked to walk in the Posche fashion show but she could have said to leave your shit stirring SIL home.

        • BlueSky_Forever says:

          disgusting that Kim G gets air time. Bravo – your standards have hit a new low! Bravo uses Kim G & she is such a maniac she doesn’t realize it. Kim G is the “unpaid & glad to do it” gutter housewife.

          • Lurker Also says:

            Kim G. is paid and has a contract. You have to understand much of this stuff is set up. 😦

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          And we all know that Kim D invited Melissa to walk in that hot mess fashion show as insurance that Bravo would film the event and she would get free advertising for Posche

      • karen says:

        i agree, in fact both melissa and kathy looked completely uncomfortable and neither said anything about teresa. they stated the facts about the christening because they were asked point blank, and it would have been hard to say something like i dont want to discuss it , since their clearly on a reality show about it.

      • cait says:

        that was fake, Did you see how happy her kathy were to hear KIM G talk shite about their family..I despise KIM G

  49. cdnfillie58 says:

    Totally OT…re: RHOOC. I think I believe what Gretchen said about other things going on that were edited. Someone also posted in the other blog about Tamra’s bad acting when she read the text and her reaction. I don’t think I’ve seen Vickie and Tamra come to any event separately so far this season…to me Tamra knew Vickie was going to the hospital before going to the event, and set it up to announce the news in front of the cameras. I would even say that both her and Vickie had it all planned right down to the pic of her IV in the hospital knowing they were going to get a certain reaction from the other ladies. Has anyone checked the date and time Vickie did go to the hospital..see if it coincides with Alexis party? I’m just saying 🙂

    • dsc60 says:

      but Vicki also texted Alexis that she was on her way to the hospital so Alexis already knew. If that was their plan, Vicki would not have contacted Alexis beforehand. What’s confusing is why Alexis didn’t say she already knew. That makes her look even worse, if that’s possible.

  50. klmh says:

    To the ladies over 55 or so, this will make you LOL:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6oHBG3ABUJU&vq=medium

    • cdnfillie58 says:

      oh I have so been there LOL

    • Golden Girl says:

      Lol! Love it

    • krone says:

      LMAO! Thanks: that’s my everyday routine;-)

    • FLG says:

      Oh dear, I am in deep, deep, deep pooo. I’m well under 55 and this portrays my days……

      I do still have the occasional brief moments of clarity, but they are becoming more and more occasional…..

      But, I still do have enough of my wits about me to remember that I can’t stand Jill Zarin and Countess Squash Blossom High Horse!!!

      What’s a fellow to do?

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        I write things down on the calendar, then forget to look at it. If something is important to remember I write myself a note, then put it on the counter or stove so that I might notice it the next day. It’s a struggle!

    • Christine says:

      I qualify for the over 55 thing. I have thrown out silverware because the cabinet door for the garbage bag is next to the dishwasher. I have written beautiful grocery lists, organized by the store aisles only to get to the store and realize that the list is on the kitchen counter. Oh, it goes on and on….LOL

  51. vilzvet says:

    Great blog, Lynn, thanks! Did no one else die laughing at the preview for next week with Teresa pronouncing “ingredients” as “ingredientses” or however the hell she said it. Also on “Mob Wives” Carla has twice pronounced “especially” as “EXpecially” I kid you not. Good stuff. I also laughed when Teresa criticized Kathy’s soft voice, honey she just wishes she had as nice a speaking voice as Kathy!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Yes, that was hysterical! They say “expecially” on all of the Jersey shows. Poor Jersey.

  52. IndianaHousewife says:

    Just watched the After Show on Bravo. Andy called Ashly out of the audience. If anyone wants to see her new look she is sporting the blonde hair and bigger lips.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Ashley has time to color her hair (doesn’t look good) and blow up her lips (who paid for that?) but no time to clean her room or get a job…..

      • kbinldo says:

        gaaaaaa, you’re SO UNFAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :stomps feet:

        (my imitation of Ashley’s response to your post)

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          lol, let me buy you a new car then sweetie – what was I thinking critizing your greatness.

  53. rita says:

    Hello Ladies
    I dislike both of them. But Melissa is a narcissistic and inmature bitch who thinks her shit doesn’t stink. Go visit her site melissagorga.com and see it for yourselves.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Melissa definately has no problems in the self esteem department. That girl is living a dream and doesn’t realize you eventually do wake up.

    • NightLight95 says:

      That’s too funny! The new housewives have their new sites up an running fast.

  54. ann little says:

    Hi Ladies! great recap as always, Lynn!! it’s such a great time reading your posts and all the input!

    Last nights episode was OK for me. I still haven’t made up my mind about Melissa but her sisters need to GO! They really are like the evil sisters from Cinderella but Melissa ain’t no Cindy, thats for sure!

    I think JOey didn’t dress up as his sister but bought his outfit at the height of the Jersey Shore craze and dressed up as Snooki but it is most comical when you look at him and he looks exactly like his sister. I think the only difference between Snooki and Tree is that Tree has previously had access to more $$$ than Snooks so she’s had better clothes/makeup but when you look at it they’re both just Jersey trash. Sorry to any Jerseyites on this forum! But you know what I mean….

    Caroline is the usual bore woe is me my kids are gone, Jaq the same but thankfully no As(s)hley but the one thing that almost made me vomit out my nose was Kim G. What the HELL is this horrid piece of garbage still doing on this show? I thought Andy confirmed they won’t be featuring her. I have an inkling that they’re still out the audience for they’re opinion about adding her as a regular. I mean, within 2 episodes she was already in 1 of them, hogging up camera time and starting shit.
    I sure hope she’s written out of the remaining season ’cause I just can’t stand her!!!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IA it was a Snookie costume – what would possess that macho fidget to cross dress?

  55. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    After watching 2 episodes, I just want to give a shout out to my incredible, supportive, wonderful, handsome, hysterically funny, warm, loving, Okay, basically PERFECT Brother and thank God for the great relationship he and my husband have. That is all. Amen.

    • cdnfillie58 says:

      LOL..I hear ya Duchesse

    • California35 says:

      lol

    • La Dolce Vita says:

      Duchess of Dryer Lint : curious minds want to know>>>>> if your dryer dies or wants to leave you for some reason. such as a faulty starter switch that it can find someplace else, do you get to keep your “courtesy title?”

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        of course! Dahling I have been with that dryer for over 10 years now, don’t you think I have earned it! Besides, my dryer would never leave me while it could still function. I would make sure that if the dryer decided to “upgrade” the heating coil would never come on again!

        • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

          And that dryer knows it has it good! I change that lint trap regularly 😉

          • La Dolce Vita says:

            “I would make sure that if the dryer decided to “upgrade” the heating coil would never come on again!”

            OH DEAR! that would mean that everything would be limp and slightly damp with moisure. You are one tough customer.

            A word of warning Duchess; when you clean the lint trap, make sure it is securely in place so that Nothing, and I mean NOTHING can escape w/o your notice. You never know if a small piece of lint excapes and latches onto something you would not approve of. Sh*t happens, just ask some Countesses you know.

            • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

              Oh, I don’t worry about that. I use a leaf blower to clean the trap and vent once a month. (that aint no joke, either!) escaped lint can build up and start a fire, and I think I could find “countless” reasons to avoid a fire in the basement. The leaf blower just wooshes everything out the vent door and then you start clean again!

  56. California35 says:

    I am not on Teresa’s team at all…but not on Melissa (at least not yet). Too soon to tell. I am noticing that the first episodes show some thing to get ratings and reactions right away from the viewers and then things change a bit. Like Jill calling Alex a B.. and all those things, but then “fixing it” even if fake on the third episode. Maybe Melissa and Theresa will be all happy and making up by the third episode.

    Theresa is acting like a victim, and I wonder how long she will act like that. When will she start yelling and fighting. She does seem to have a problem with three of the wives(plus two other ladies). The only one she is doing ok with is Jackeline, but Jackeline even got along with Danielle at one point.

    To recap….I am on no one’s team (not Melissa, not Theresa, not Caroline, not Kathy, not the extras Melissa’s sister and Kim G) lol

    Did you guys notice the red gym suit Theresa’s baby was wearing is the same as Bethenny’s baby? I loved it on Bryn and I do also on this baby, but I HAD to coment on it 🙂 In fact I will try to find it for my niece, even if she will wear it until she turns 1.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Somewhere in Teresa’s acorn size brain she knows that “they” will be coming after her like she went after Danielle. Kim G talking to her sister in law really almost unhinged her. Caroline talking to Melissa and Kathy bothered her as well. Teresa is being very guarded and ITA that she should be!

      • BlueSky_Forever says:

        lol acorn sized brain! WCW don’t you think someone is telling Tree exactly what to say & when to say it & writing her blog too? Tree has had what 2 seasons to figure out how to behave on a reality show. I smell major PR but in the end…we will see the real Tree. Maybe she has formed a major bond with the person(s) who write her cookbooks.

        Melissa’s blog not getting posted yet….she’s still getting advice on what to say to “spin” her persona on the show.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          I started out giving T a pea size brain, but upgraded her to an acorn because she is definately evolving and being coached this season PRwise.

  57. Kelly_Has_Big_Shoulders says:

    I think Teresa has some anger issues she goes into this blind rage sometimes and it clouds her view of her surroundings. People try to bring her back to reality but she is blinded by rage. Like last nights episode Caroline trying to calm her down and Teresa was just like yeah yeah but her eyes, there was something there just like when she pushed Andy Cohen at the reunion. I can’t believe I am going to say this her and Jill were the ones I despised the most, but now I feel sorry for Teresa.
    I don’t know who is telling the truth Melissa or Teresa but I did not like Melissa’s association with the housewife wanna be Kim G. She just met her and decided to go out for Halloween? Yeah right she just needs a person on her side who can stir up trouble for Teresa. Melissa is not innocent in this whole family drama. Her sisters last night looked so weird going crazy fro Kim G as if she was lady Gaga or something.

  58. codystl says:

    Let me start by saying I have only watched last season and this season of this show so I don’t know the full history many of you have.

    1. I like Caroline. She may be a little bossy in her delivery, but she seems to be the voice a reason. She loves her family and is loyal to her friends. The unsolicited advice she has given seems to be dead on correct and the right thing to do. So what if she gets a little emotional about her kids. She’s been a good mom to them and wants what is best for them. She doesn’t behave badly around them.
    2. It’s upsetting to me to see how the Gorgas and Guidices behave towards each other. In my opinion, all are equally guilty of this family feud. As Dr. Phil would say, everybody is a “right” fighter. Someone needs to take the high road and everyone else needs to shut their mouths.

    I lost my mom when I was 18 and my dad when I was 28. I have two brothers who are cordial to each other but not buddies. There is a lot of tension between my sister-in-laws which makes getting together for holidays awkward sometimes. People really need to value their extended families and stop fighting over the bullshit. These folks are fighting over bs and soon it will be repeated with their kids.

    Lastly, Kim G. is a waste.

    • NightLight95 says:

      Well I agree with you on Caroline. I like her too. She apologized in her blog to Teresa for coming off too strong. As far as her reaction in the fashion show I would of kicked them out as well. Also, her friendship and loyalty is to Teresa so if she didn’t warm up to Kathy immidiatly, so what? Caroline has already said she doesn’t like you before she does. She is upfront about it. Melissa wanted on the show to promote herself but it shouldn’t have been at her family’s expense.

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      Codystl you really had to grow up fast, sorry about losing your parents so young. I like to say you can’t choose your family but you CAN choose your friends, thank God. The only person I can ever change is myself, & how I react to situations/people. It’s often quoted “God please help me to accept the things I can’t change, the courage to change the things that I can and the wisdom to know the difference.”

  59. HeyAll says:

    Teresa said hello and smiled. Sure it was pretending like nothing happened, which is what you SHOULD do at a public event. What was the problem? Melissa trashes everything Teresa does even when it isn’t warranted. If Teresa had ignored her completely, she would have been wrong then too. I don’t like that Melissa expects Teresa to do all the kissing up either. I suppose Teresa should have gotten on her knees as Melissa was getting her makeup done, and begged for forgiveness. JESUS. We’ve seen Teresa make an effort about 3 times now while being given the cold shoulder and that ugly disgusted face Melissa makes; like she’s too good for it all. Sorry, there is nothing about her that I like.

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      I get where Melissa is coming from – Teresa has always been an obnoxious, self-centered fake. Melissa may be, too. Don’t know. Don’t care right now. I DO get that Teresa has said the “Manzos” are her “fambly”, shutting out her brother and his family on purpose on the show in the past. I don’t believe Teresa should have made sure Bravo shone a spotlight on Melissa, but I also can see where they’re coming from that Teresa has been super fake and excluded them at the risk of highlighting or showing her brother and his family at all. They’re tired of the fake. I can get that. On top of whatever else has gone on in their family between the two of them. Teresa is a nasty piece of work. I do not feel a bit sorry for her and her soft, kitten pity party she is acting so burdened with this season. Nope. Sorry. Time for Teresa to eat some humble pie for sure.

    • Smompy says:

      “Teresa said hello and smiled. Sure it was pretending like nothing happened, which is what you SHOULD do at a public event. What was the problem?”

      I don’t necessarily think the problem was solely Teresa’s phoniness at the christening. More likely that phoney congratulations was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. When I try to put myself in the Gorga’s place, they’re reaction make smore sense to me. From their point of view, Teresa has treated them very badly for a very long time. Whether they’re 100% right in feeling the way they do, I can’t say for sure, but clearly they do feel that way.

      The Gorgas have a long established history with Teresa. They feel that Teresa and Juicy have tried to alienate Joe from his own parents. Right or wrong, they believe Teresa has done eveything in her power to make sure they never appeared on this show. They feel that Teresa has totally ignored their child, yet as soon as the camera’s started rolling, Teresa suddenly couldn’t wait to grab that child and dance with him half the night. They feel that the ONLY reason Teresa came over to their table was to insert herslf into “their scene” as it was being shot.

      If I had a sibling who treated me and my spouse like crap all the time but then suddenly got all phoney-nice to me because a camera was present, I’d be pissed off too. I’m not defending Joe Gorga’s drunken, rage-filled outburst there, but I think I can understand where he and his wife were coming from. Actually, now that I’m thinking about it, I can’t be TOO critical of Joe for losing his cool that way either, being that Teresa regularly does that very thing herself. Hell, she started to lose it again in last night’s episode. Violent tantrums must run in that family.

      If Teresa was sincerely interested in burying the hatchet with her brother and sister in law at her nephew’s christening, why did she choose to wait until they were being filmed to do it? Further, why was it necessary for Teresa to announce that she had already congratulated them a short time earlier? If she did indeed already congratulate them a short time ago, surely they would remember it, so there was no reason for Teresa to start her sentence with “I know I already congratulated you a little while ago, but…” If Teresa knows she already congratulated them and the Gorgas know she already congratulated them, there’s no reason for Teresa to allude to it as she did…EXCEPT of course for the fact that Teresa’s previous congratulations hadn’t been filmed and therefore couldn’t make Teresa look better to her TV audience. I have the impression that THAT is the only reason Teresa ever does or says anything nice…so that she “looks like” a better person than she really is.

  60. Smompy says:

    Yes, in his defense, Joe Gorga’s Halloween costume was meant to be Snooki, not Teresa…he just happened to look like his siter while dressed as Snooki.

    I’m with Lynn in that I’m a little surprised by the level of Melissa-hate already. There are already so many despicable characters on this show, I’m desperately hoping I can latch onto liking this new girl. I mean, obviously I’m not ready to say she’s a wonderful person or that she’s right in everything she does – not by a longshot – but from what I’ve seen of her begavior so far, she hasn’t earned my contempt…at least not anywhere near as much as Tree has earned it. Even if she and her hubby turn out to be similar to Tree and Juicy, I’d still be glad they were on the show because there just has to be SOMEBODY there to offset those two scumbags and call them out once in a while. Besides that grifting, lunatic,prostitution-whore Danielle, nobody else on this show would ever do that publicly. So although I’m still suspicious of Mellissa (and the other new cast members) and I really won’t be shocked if she does turn out to be as much of a lying, thieving bitch as Tree is, for now I’m cautiously optimistic and am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Automatically assuming the worst about a new person until that new person proves you wrong is Caroline Manzo’s first rule, and I’m not prepared to live by her rules.

    And speaking of Caroline Manzo, I’m finally starting to genuinely hate her too. I’ve never been a huge fan of hers eactly, but for a long time I (secretly) sort of admired her in some weird way. I guess I felt like even though she’s very flawed, she was still basically honest and wanted the best for everyone, etc. I’ve gradually lost more and more respect for her, though, and after last night, I think I’ve finally had enough of Caroline. Her supercilious little lecture at the Brownstone was annoying to say the least, but the preview clip of Caroline rudely dismissing whatever Kathy says to her was the final nail in the coffin for me. You know what, Caroline, we ARE done!

    • Caitlin says:

      I’m with you, kid!

    • nathania says:

      I want to see Teresa slap the bejesus out of Caroline. She must be afraid Carolina will call up some favors from the mafia thugs the family is still ‘loosely’ in touch with, or something.

  61. quincyil says:

    Teresa’s family is so competitive. They compete for huge mansions of stone and no one seems to have the money to support their lifestyles. They have cars, designer clothes, and huge parties.

    If Teresa has a salary of $500,000 and Joe makes $100,000 from the pizza joint, they still can’t support that house. You have to pay state, federal, and local taxes. Teresa has income from the two books, but they have lawyer bills that have to eat up their savings.

    No matter the bankruptcy, the federal government does not forgive taxes. They will have to pay back taxes and penalties for not filing. I’m sure the feds will go through his business books. There will be fines from the housing authorities for the buildings with Section 8 apartments because you have to maintain them.

    I also don’t believe that Teresa’s brother is a rocket scientist and that he is making the money to support his wife’s lifestyle. He is in his 30s. His parents did not help him get a start. How is it possible for them to have that house and all of that stuff. Sorry, but the building industry died several years ago. Ask Jeff Lewis.

    • Caitlin says:

      Quincy, you’re on fire today! So many invaluable insights. And I am soooooooo tired of all these people living grossly beyond their means. We all deserve nice things, but those of us in the real world realize that we have to pay for them.

      • quincyil says:

        Teresa has income from the tanning spas and opening of grocery stores too.

        Hmmmm. How much time does she have for those 4 little girls if she does all of this? It seems Kathy is right and Teresa isn’t the perfect mother that she suggests.

        • alicia says:

          I think she is like KKB- she would rather be in the limelight.

        • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

          Oh now come on…you cant say that Teresa is a bad mother b/c she has to work..isn’t there enough real and true bad things about her to say? I am totally not looking to argue but just felt this comment was a bit below the belt..

          • quincyil says:

            I was a working mom. My mother was a working mom. Teresa made a big deal about being the only person to take care of her kids for two seasons. She was the one that made this an issue.

            My daughter is a working mom too.

          • quincyil says:

            I think saying that Teresa is not the perfect mother that she suggests is not the same as saying that she is a bad mom at all. I don’t think it is below the belt either.

            • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

              I see that now… I should have read a bit more carefully…I believe my SWITCH went off a little to quickly….

              • quincyil says:

                My granddaughter is 1/4 Italian, 1/4 Irish and 1/4 Iranian. I think she inherited the switch.

                When she is cooking in her play kitchen making a pretend cake in a bowl with a stirrer or getting ready to serve dinner to her family, she says, “It’s coming !…It’s coming!” She sounds just like her Italian grandmother from Brooklyn preparing dinner.

                • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                  Haha..I think my 2 girls inherited my switch also-which of course I inherited from my mother..and so it goes….

            • karen says:

              i agree , teresa has always from day one , talked about how she does everything, from all the cooking, to all the cleaning( really? come on !) to not having nannys and doing it all by herself.
              as for being a “good mother”? we all obviously have very different opinions about what constitutes one. If my husband were joking and calling my little girl ugly, and she was crying, i dont think id think i was that good of a mom. i dont think her values are what id want to instill in my children, i dont think for one minute think her rages are localized or for bravo’s camera only either.
              So, do i think She shines in the mommy dept? no, not really. and i dont think this comment is below the belt either. i think its the way i see it.

              • quincyil says:

                Remember when she put some mums in a pot and told us that she didn’t have a yard staff. I would like to have watched her spend hours on a lawnmower. Her yard is huge. Even with a farm tractor it woud take hours.

        • Caitlin says:

          Be careful, Quincy, else you might cause T to flip that switch!

        • Christine says:

          Teresa is attending LuAnn’s “Classes on Parenting by the Countess”.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Theory this – Guidice taught Gorga how to “do contruction” because we know that is how Juicy amassed OPM. Now that Juicy is in a disgraceful situation, the Gorgon wants recognition for his achievements and it just isn’t happening because his father isn’t impressed with him. Gorgon is a spoiled, needy and whines way too much – nothing manly about him.

      • nathania says:

        my theory is that the dad both taught them everything they know and financed them both into this mess. *Someone* is giving them (Teresa and Joe) 10 k a month. Some older people on fixed incomes live on that amount a year if not less.

  62. lillybee says:

    I think I dislike all the women on this show.

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      Where’s the “like” button? 🙂 I agree, Lillybee. Blech.

      DH sat patiently through it with me and said, why do you watch this crap? LOL. I had no good answer. I was officially done with NJ, but had to watch Melissa hopefully bring Teresa what she so deserves. I’ll give it another show or two and be done.

      • iceNfire says:

        imo tersea got what she deserved when Bravo showed that she left her baby unattended during the fight. That Bravo did not replay the scene where Kathy takes care of the baby on WWHL was only catering to teresa. Why the special treatment for that little bitch?

  63. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    The one thing I thought was interesting about this episode was the dinner at Kathy’s house. Kathy’s husband said the feud is Teresa’s fault because when they were first married, all Teresa did was talk about how wonderful her brother was and Juicy became resentful having “Joey thrown up in his face all the time”.
    Hmmmm…….

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      So the whole fight is Teresa’s fault b/c she spoke too highly of her brother….I found that whole convo very strange-who would call their sister garbage b/c she spoke too highly of them?

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        I thought it was wierd too. and Joey was just nodding away in agreement when the husband said that, so apparently (unless it was editing again!) he agrees that Teresa loved him so much she put him on a pedestal to Juicy and this is why it is all her fault?!

    • vilzvet says:

      Yes not only is Rich witty, funny and friendly, he does seem to have insight into the complicated Teresa/Joe/Melissa mess.

  64. PF says:

    “To build their “dream house,” Joe & Melissa Gorga got a “construction loan” — meaning a short-term loan to build the property to sell it for profit to a buyer, what builders do. It’s not a mortgage. You’re not supposed to live in your own house. It’s totally scamming the system. They had the house up for sale, but when they got cast on RHONJ, they pulled it so they would look like they were rich (they are not!) Next year, Joe & Missy will have a $2 million balloon payment due! They can’t pay it and are screwed!”

    http://stoopidhousewives.com/2011/05/11/melissa-gorga/

    I saw this and thought, if this is true, then they are no better than the Guidice’s that they continue to bash about their finances, right?

    • quincyil says:

      Well, my mom had a construction loan on her house and I had a construction loan on the addition to my house. It turned into a mortgage when the bank had someone do the final inspections to make sure that everything was done.

      The reason that you get the constuction loan is that you pay over time rather than have borrowed money sitting there when you have to pay interest on the sum.

      We live in IL and I don’t know if this is how other banks in other states work.

      We don’t have zoning laws in the county so there was no one to tell us that we could not live in the houses while working on them. That might be the case in NJ because I have watched shows about building in other states where they had to get a certificiate for occupation. Jeff Lewis deals with that on his shows.

      Having a balloon payment is a bummer, but I am sure that people rob Peter to pay Paul all of the time in the business world.

      If you remember, Simon van Kempen’s family lived in the construction zone too. That was NY.

      If they violated zoning laws or banking laws, someone will turn them in because there is so much gossip about these reality stars.

      • nathania says:

        thank you for that information.

        if I hear that crap about the construction loan one more time I will puke. AS OF YET the Gorgas have not defaulted. Nor have they asked taxpayers to pay their debts.

    • cait says:

      word

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      Comments on that website interesting as well. 1 claimed Melissa was the “other woman” that broke up Joey and his fiance (or first wife?!!) couldn’t figure it out and another claiming that Melissa was a stripper when they met. Let the rumor mills begin! 🙂

      • quincyil says:

        None of the blogs are gospel. They are opinions and if you look at Teresa’s family, they all have the same facts, but no one agrees. Kathy and Teresa are in a room together and they don’t agree about what happened in the event.

        I love it that Lynn had her opinion and many people voiced their thoughts with no fear here.

    • dsc60 says:

      really the only way you can build your house is with a builders’ loan unless you have the cash outright. no bank is going to give you a regular mortgage on a house that doesn’t exist yet.

      • dsc60 says:

        i should have said: the only way SOMEONE can build THEIR house is with a builder’s loan.

  65. Malinia says:

    I haven’t forgotten any of the shit Theresa and her ape Joe have done.

    I am not a “fan” of Theresa and never will be.

    However, that doesn’t make me like that vile wanna-be-a-pop-star Melissa and her violent goon of an idiot husband. In THIS particular situation?

    Team Theresa. No matter which one of them answers your emails.

    It suddenly got “real” on RHNJ. That is her brother, and for the first and only time, I saw Theresa in pain, real pain, real embarrassment, and she is not bright enough to fight the c**t that has her idiot brother pussy-wrapped into hating his blood sister.

    No matter what someone has done, when I see that kind of pain on one side, and that kind of glee and shit stirring on the other? I will sympathize with the one in pain.

    • cait says:

      Malinia.
      I know..that exact observation made me feel so bad for her..I hate that whole kick a man while he’s down mentality. It made Melissa and her sister’s Kim G ..all look like evil vile GARBAGE

    • NightLight95 says:

      Since most people here don’t care for Teresa I must preface my comment with I am not a fan of hers. If you are of the type of person that likes to knock a person down a peg or feel the need to humble somebody go for it. My problem with this scenario of knocking Teresa down is that it’s her family. Speaks volumes about their family values. BTW I loved Jay’s blog!

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I see your point but I saw a LOT of pain on Joe Gorga’s face as well and in his voice. I think there’s a lot of pain on both sides. Of course maybe not with Melissa, she has her sisters and her husband and her friends, she claims that she tried to be friendly with Teresa but that T wasn’t open to it. Who’s to say Melissa isn’t telling the truth, we know Teresa lies, as far as we know, Melissa doesn’t. Not yet anyway

      For the record my opinion wasn’t swayed by the remark by Melissa’s sister, she was responding to my opinion. (it was a DM on Twitter, not email)

      • NightLight95 says:

        I am not sure about your comment regarding Twitter or DM or Facebook. (I only follow Bethenny). My comment was based on comment on knocking Teresa down. I watched all of first season and read your blog on second season so I get why people don’t like Teresa but it should not be your family. I agree that her brother is in pain over this you can see it all over his face. Frankly, I don’t even care if Teresa and Melissa don’t like each other, “stay in your lane” and everything will be alright.

        • NightLight95 says:

          I went back and read your Twitter comment on the blog. Family should stick together, you can fight amongst each other but you do not let others come between you. When Kim G was bashing Teresa, Melissa and Kathy should of shut her down. Show some family loyalty.

      • nathania says:

        I honestly don’t think the pain is coming from Teresa. I think Joe Gorga’s pain is from the father. In 2 seconds the dad said ‘go cry to your mother’…and the mother is similarly hair-trigger and reactive. It’s very easy to see why these kids are soooooooooooo screwed up. They are tearing each other apart fighting over the parents (or maybe the parents money, I wish someone would dig into this and find out what kind of money there is).

    • karen says:

      funny i see it the other way around.

      • karen says:

        oops this was in reply to malinia not anyone else

        • Malinia says:

          Joey was such a drunken goon, screaming at his father, screaming at everyone, constantly egged on by his harpy wife that I just felt ZERO sympathy for him. Frankly, he was scary drunk, and mean as hell.

          Again, I am not a fan of Theresa.

          I am seriously not a fan of Melissa. She seems vile to me, and to be gleeful at the rift between brother and sister. Having befriended Danielle and the icky Kim, and wangling to get on this show so she can be a superstar singer just makes me dislike her even more.

          All I am saying is that I think (for once!) we are seeing Theresa completely hurt, completely embarrassed, and she is much too stupid to have a clue how to cope with all of this. It was like she was bleeding all over the screen.

          I just can’t take joy in that.

          It’s like watching a special needs child bullied or something. I am not explaining it well. It just made me ill.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            IMO, some of T’s pain comes from refusing to stoop to the level of her brother and that he/his wife/her family will trash her.

  66. kotagirl29 says:

    Sorry, but I am with Caroline on this one, let them go kill each other at home. Caroline is a lot nicer than the matriarch of our family was before she passed. My Great-Grandma Edna Butch. A bitchier old Polish woman you would never meet. She would sit in her chair and demand to be waited on, she would smack the back of your legs if you didn’t get her ashtray to her fast enough. She would knock on the floor with the same cane demanding things using only there name. For example, bang-bang “COFFEE!” Caroline isn’t so bad. Jacqueline reminds me of my sister Denise. Really pretty, kinda silly, and just a good person. I like Kathy. But Melissa and Teresa can go kill each other at home for all I care.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Hahahahha. I’m dying. kotagirl, you must write a book of your life story. I’d buy it for sure.

      • kotagirl29 says:

        Thanks! It gets better. My Great-great Grandma, Grandma Butch and her husband my Great-Grandpa all came over from Poland in 1927. They made bathtub gin and made bootleg gin runs. Well back in the old country Grandpa Butch had told Grandma that he was Lithuanian. Before he died he confessed that he was from Russia and was Jewish. Grandma Butch made the announcement to the family and then proceeded to tell us all that her marriage was null and they any children born of that sham marriage were bastards, then told all the grandchildren and great-grandchildren that we were all bastards too because our parents and grandparents were. She was a sweetheart. At my cousins wedding. We were all sitting in the church waiting for the ceremony to start and most of us were joking and laughing. I happened to be lucky enough to be sitting directly in front of her and she smacked in the back of the head and told me I was gonna burn for laughing in a church. She hit hard for an old lady!

        • ihearttalavera says:

          Holy shit. It did get better. I love it! You just know there is going to be a funny ass story if it involves Great-great Grandma Butch telling all of her grandchildren they are bastards! Hahhahhaa. I think this should be the first chapter in your autobiography.

          • kotagirl29 says:

            Oh yeah, you can’t make this stuff up. I had a Great-aunt that used to smack me every time I caught her cheating at Yahtzee. God it sounds like all my family did was smack each other. Aunt Marion only gave cuff on the arm, but boy did she cheat at Yahtzee a lot. It took me years before I figured out how she could scratch so many on the bottom and still beat my score. We always played triple Yahtzee but eventually I found out she not only cheated when adding her score, but every time I left the table or turned away she would change her dice. Horrible cheater. But she was fun.

            • ihearttalavera says:

              No, you cannot. Sounds like you have a family full of characters! We used to all play Yahtzee and card games too. I think every family has a cheater. Ours was my Grandpa. Good times!

    • quincyil says:

      They reacted badly to Caroline’s comments and I bet the discussion on the way home was interesting.

      Caroline was the authority figure as the events were taking place in her husband’s place of business. Those women could have had another incident like the Country Club chase down and hair pull.

      • NightLight95 says:

        That is her husband’s business so understandably she kicked them out.

        • Malinia says:

          Yeah, I don’t like Carolyn being on the show, she is a BORE.

          In this case? I thought she was completely in line because she didn’t want their family business to be the scene of a brawl. She had every right, and even responsibility to intervene.

          For once.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Caroline reacted fine at the Brownstone – had Melissa kept going on when Caroline told her to take home, IMO Caroline would have been kicking little miss hotstuff out the door and little miss hotstuff knew it too!

      • nathania says:

        to me it really sucks that Caroline was so nasty to them because it wasn’t the same situation.

        Teresa instigated last year, and she was the one that flipped out this year. Kathy and Melissa were civil and in control.

        Ugh…I can’t be objective though I detest caroline after watching her last season. She acts like she’s taking testosterone injections.

  67. nathania says:

    thanks Lynn for being the voice of sanity. I wondered too about the absence of a scene showing Kathy moving Adrianna out of the fray but I do know the camera man was actually knocked off his feet at one point so that might have something to do with it. I don’t think Kathy is the type that would lie about something like this.

    I read that blog from the website guy (can’t remember the name) that said that Teresa has a scary/aggressive publicist now. I personally think that they are seeding the blogs with derogatory comments about Melissa and positive ones about Teresa, because so many of the pro-Teresa/hate Melissa comments on here are names I have never seen before, while the anti-Teresa names are people I recognize (by and large).

    It isn’t that hard to do, in fact I read an article that said the US gov’t is writing a program to do the same thing where posters have multiple identities and post on many different blogs about current issues to make bias toward an issue skewed in one direction or another. So if the gov’t is looking into this (it was reported on several sites like wired and pc world a few months ago) I am quite certain it’s safe to assume that publicists for reality stars with deep pockets like Jill Zarin and Teresa Guidice would employ this kind of garbage as well.

    I can’t believe anyone would pity Teresa, and was kind of suprised to see that sentiment here. Being that this is May, I guess everone has paid their federal taxes already and gotten over the fact that they are going to have to foot the bill for the eleven million dollars that the Guidices ran up in debt. No biggie, eh?

    • quincyil says:

      We do have to foot the bill because the businesses that the Giudices did not pay will take losses on their taxes and that money would have gone to pay the bills of the US government.

      Good catch on that …

      I read the board and if this blog was seeded by Teresa, they did a great job. Most people gave reasons and observations for their opinions.

      With a tsumani of hits comes new names. Lynn expected this and welcomes them.

      • nathania says:

        they gave the same few reasons.

        their posts are almost verbatim, with a few variations. just like the ‘keep jill zarin in rhony’ posts.

        I am suspicious that only two episodes in anyone could despise melissa (not to mention her sisters) this much with this little information. what is interesting to me is it’s a such a divided camp. long time posters with a memory past the premier last week, and new names brandishing torches and holding up ‘Lynch Melissa’ signs. All this vitriol against someone who hasn’t even been on tv more than a week…

        I’m just observing, I spend years on political boards and witnessed all kinds of dirty tricks, so nothing surprises me, or shocks me when it comes to what people will do to dictate or sway opinion online. I guess when you have a financial interest like Teresa and her new bodyguard, it’s a make or break situation.

    • cait says:

      Nathania;
      I have voiced some sympathy for tree (ew) And much hate for Melissa and her joey- I also have expressed dislike for tree- but mostly because of last year. Just because you see names you don’t recognize doesn’t mean we are seeded jill – tree puppets. Many people like myself have been reading this blog since last year and never felt compelled to comment until now. Lots of people just don’t enjoy someone like Melissa being a shit stirrer. If you’ll notice, alot of people tend to want to protect the underdog, it doesn’t mean tree gets a pass though..so yeah, just wanted to add that – thx

      • nathania says:

        how could anyone hate her, she hasn’t been on but 2 episodes. I mean, what on earth.

        p.s. 98% of the cast members of RHO shows are ‘shit stirrers’. I think it’s part of the job requirement, except in a few cases.

        • krone says:

          So where were the people who want to protect the “underdog” when 4 grown-assed women and 1 unstable teen were persecuting Danielle mercilessly? Danielle had her faults but the entire show was based on their hatred towards her. I didn’t see many people defending or even sympathizing with her.

    • Suzieq says:

      It looks like there r plenty of “new” posters with pro Mel comments to me….

    • iceNfire says:

      Yes, something seems off with so many pro-teresa.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        We have a formitable troll slaying squad here – I feel safe. And I don’t like Teresa or Melissa or the fidget gorgon either!

  68. Larke says:

    Great blog, Lynn, but I will not be reading anymore NJ blogs! I simply cannot read another comment that favors Teresa. This is not a Melissa vs. Teresa thing at all, I just can’t stomach people feeling sorry for or supporting such criminals as the Giudice clan. Thankfully this is the only blog I read and I’m not into social media because I would go crazy if she has as many supporters as you say. Even though the show is more interesting than ever, I wish Melissa would have never been cast if it is going to push viewers toward Teresa.

    To be clear, my harsh opinion of Teresa and Joe Giudice is not based off of some inconsequential reality show, it’s based off of them being thieves and liars and getting away with everything!

    I just don’t understand how people can be so blind! These are the same viewers who thought they were despicable last year and were avid supporters of having the book thrown at them. And now, because they don’t like a new cast member, Teresa is back in everyone’s good graces! It’s sickening! It just makes me think that people who do support her are the same kind of people who think it is okay to steal 11 million dollars!!

    • quincyil says:

      There are a lot of comments that start off” I don’t like Teresa, but…” I think it’s happening all over this board.

      When it comes to the specific incident at the christening, people look at Teresa simply saying goodbye at the end of an family gathering and they think her brother’s reaction was over the top. I think the vote on WWHL was on this once event and the reaction of the family to that event rather than giving Teresa a pass on the way she took advantage of hard working people in the bankruptcy.

      • NightLight95 says:

        You articulated it so beautifully!

      • cait says:

        Quincy- exactly- we (the Melissa haters) don’t all think teresa is the great saint of a woman. I think people are personally busy hating on these other characters and how they treat others- Tree needs to be responsible for the mess her family is in- BUT- she does not need to be verbally abused by her brother or treated like shit and lied about by the witchy sil! What her and her husband got themselves into has nothing to do with these last two episodes….I think ppl feel sorry for her (maybe) because, can you imagine being in her shoes..omg..that husband..her brother.. where else can she make $500,000 and episode? I think she’s treading water & it just looks really not so fabulous.

    • Malinia says:

      She is not in my good graces.

      In this particular circumstance, I felt sympathy for her.

      • quincyil says:

        Like Kelly, I beleive Teresa is being handled. The makeup guy who save the baby on the stair way. Is he Teresa’s assistant?He seems to be in every show.

    • BlueSky_Forever says:

      Larke it could be that many viewers of RHONJ don’t read the blogs or follow the news about Juicy & Tree. I can’t believe Andy doesn’t ask Tree more questions about her court date, indictment(s), tax evasion/fraud etc. That’s what sickens me. Bravo puts these crooks on tv & then perpetuates their lies.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ITA – the majority of viewers have no idea what Teresa and Joe are in trouble for and only see them as people on a “reality” show.

      • midwesthousewife says:

        I am one of those that did not follow their news and I hope they get the book thrown at them – I just don’t want to watch the bookshelf pushed on T. As I said upstream, I don’t know why since I wouldn’t blink if building fell on JZ, Luann, Kelly, or Tamra.

        I would hate for Larke to leave as I have been following IHJZ for a year and enjoy reading her posts. I just happened to pick today for my first post because I knew something was off with my interpretation of events since I this is the first time I could not understand Lynn’s interpretation of events. I would gladly back out of posting in order for long term posters to stay as I love reading you all!

        • krone says:

          It seems that Bravo enjoys hiring criminals Tareq Salami……. need I say more?(Shanna & Russell?) Next best is mentally unstable: BeenSomeone & the Gorgons.. and Kim Richards BH is, at the least, fragile. Okay, I’m officially ashamed that I support Bravo by watching these shows.

    • sue says:

      And how do you know that the the Gorgas wont turn out to be just like T & Joe. there are a lot of stories out there about Joe Gorga and Melissas Spending also Larke!

    • karen says:

      this is the part i dont get either. it only makes it worse for me. now i see teresa’s entire family and their all horrible. none of this makes me like her or her thug husband more. it certainly doesnt make me want to stick up for her. Last year she got off because Danielle was slightly worse and this year she’ll get off because her SIL and brother aren’t any more likeable.

    • Larke says:

      I thought I would do a follow-up so it’s not as though I’m putting this post out there and then running away!

      My first comment last week after the show was that Joe Gorga was totally in the wrong for calling any family member garbage. That is despicable as well! I never stood up for him and clearly stated he was wrong. HOWEVER, I cannot comment on an in-law family feud because NOBODY here knows the complex history between the Gorga’s and the Giudice’s. Now, of course, I understand the blog is for people to speculate, but I personally would never even give my opinion on who is right and wrong (though there are no winners) in the feud because I have no idea. It’s fine if other people want to comment or speculate, but for the life of me I don’t understand how people on the blog can say that Melissa or her sister (or even Teresa for that matter) are at fault because we simply don’t know that. That is the only thing I don’t care for from some posters on this blog because we are all just having fun talking about bravolebrities, but not one person can truly say that any one person is at fault for that family feud. Yet, people want to throw Melissa under the bus…based on what I have no idea!

      And for the record, I don’t think Joe Gorga is a likeable character either, but I don’t think that necessarily translates to Melissa. Joe Giudice is disgusting on so many levels, but people aren’t hating on Teresa just because of her husband. If anything, they now feel sorry for her! So, to not like Melissa based off of two episodes because of her husband doesn’t seem fair to me. But, that’s just me. If anything I saw Melissa try to talk her husband and sisters down and tried to diffuse it once it escalated.

      Obviously, I cannot hide my disdain for people like the Giudice’s. And if the Gorga’s turn out to be just like them and file bankruptcy, then okay!!! But, to the poster who said she has heard stuff…I mean, really?!? If you read this blog then we all hear stuff about all of these people. So, I hardly feel anyone can compare the Gorga’s to the Giudice’s at this moment when there is no record or documents stating that they are thieves and liars like the Giudice’s. And if they end up being criminals as well then I will have the same to say about them.

      Midwesthousewife- don’t dare leave! I will still support Lynn, but when you feel very strongly about people playing the system it is very frustrating to read so many comments that support them. So, I will just try to resist reading NJ blogs!!

      And I do understand and agree that many people don’t know or care about the characters on these shows and just aren’t in the know. But, my surprise (and shock) came from regular posters who were very adamant about their dislike for the Giudice’s who seem to have now gone to the dark side!!

      But, if I know one thing about these Housewives, it’s that people love them and love to hate them…opinions are always changing so I can only hope that everyone is on to Teresa again before too long.

      I just wish that people who don’t like Melissa realized that they don’t, by default, have to like Teresa. I say hate ’em both then!!!!

      • Larke says:

        Oh and one last comment though I know everyone’s on the other post.

        Every other thing out of Teresa’s mouth is that she wouldn’t have done the show if she had known it would do this to her family so….I hope that everyone who supports her or is on Twitter or over on Bravo asks her if she is leaving after this season? If she really hates so much that her family is fighting on TV, and all of this is so sudden and not years like other family members are saying then…she should be leaving after this season, right?

        And if she doesn’t leave…then she’s basically a liar. Because now she knows what it has done to her family, or rather now everyone sees the Giudice’s for what they truly are.

        But, then again, Teresa is a proven liar! I’m not sure I can believe anything out of her mouth for that reason alone.

        I just can’t stand that she is using that as her sympathy card hoping people will feel sorry for her and think that this TV show tore her family apart as if she was so blindsided! Please!!!!

        Okay, I’m done!!! Happy blogging to all!!

  69. Okie Folkie says:

    ***OT***
    After the tragic Tornadoes that hit Joplin, MO. on Sunday evening, and having had very good friends who used to live there, J-Town was our ‘party town’. I lived in the far N.E. corner of OKLA, so J-Town was THE place for us to go. I feel soo badly for all of the victims of Mother Nature’s recent wrath.

    So, OK….I am watching my local news and keep hearing “TORNADO ON THE GROUND!!” over & over & over again…..these storms are currently several miles from our community. I just HOPE that WE (anyone in OK, TX., ARk, etc…) wont make the National NEWS tomorrow.
    Gotta run take a look at the sky…….PLEASE keep your fingers crossed for us!

  70. LynnNChicago says:

    https://lynnnchicago101.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/ihjz-the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey-watch-what-happens-live-second-posting/

    Second posting of “The Real Housewives of New Jersy” blog. Check both boards for comments on last night’s show.

  71. Malinia says:

    http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-3/blogs/teresa-giudice/theres-nothing-there

    Theresa’s blog is finally up. For once? I believe most of it.

    Hopefully I will be back to hating her and Melissa equally next week!

    ha

  72. cait says:

    so I just wanted to apologize if I’ve pissed off some regular commentors (been seeing alot of disdain for the tree sympathizers) I’m sorry if I’ve offended anyone with my opinions..been having fun on here today responding and reading everyone’s insightful posts. I never comment usually (i am sick in bed today- so) I like this blog, originally because i hate jill zarin- that will never change- she is vile, next. But anyway, I didn’t want to piss off regular commentors. I just have a huge soft spot for the underdog.. so anyway thanks for all the great entertainment today, it was really fun.
    cheers everyone! 🙂

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I’ve been home from work too, and this is good company/fun. I enjoyed reading your opinion even though it differs from mine. That is the great thing about this blog, I always feel safe about disagreeing with others. I’ve seen other blogs where people are really mean and call each other nasty names. I’m glad we can come here and not worry about that. Hope you feel better soon!

      • cait says:

        yeah- I heart- that happened to me too- I just think it takes all the fun out of posting opinions- some other blogs can be crappy in that respect- we are the viewers – we suffer from watching these freaks! we need to go to a safe place to vent and this site is nice AND opinionated- which is a great combo

  73. historykc says:

    Lynn, I feel so out-of-sync from your opinions lately! Maybe I’ve been reading one too many gawker recaps. I canNOT stomach Melissa. Does anyone else get the feeling that she plays openly to the camera? I’m sure they all do to an extent, but she is just SO obvious! It makes me feel uncomfortable to watch her, it’s like watching a really bad actress, who is under the delusion that she is about to win an oscar.

    I cannot emphasize enough that I’m not a Teresa fan, but god help me if I don’t feel sorry for her this season. It’s obvious that Melissa and Joe are ridiculously jealous of her “success” and are mad that they weren’t filmed in prior seasons of the show. If they would just own that I might be able to stomach them for more than 30 seconds. I think what makes me dislike them more is that it is obvious they are shilling out this family drama to the world to get their 15 minutes of fame. Teresa, for her part, seems to want no part of it– at least that’s what I gathered from her reaction on WWHL last night.

    • cait says:

      HistoryKC
      omgard – do you love R Lawson’s recaps like me?- pure gold- satchels of gold hah

      • cait says:

        Btw- HistoryKC,
        you expressed my thoughts exactly.
        If I could give you a star I would

    • nathania says:

      pity for Teresa
      Joe and Melissa are jealous
      schlmiel, schlmizel….

      in politics these are called talking points….

  74. boston02127 says:

    Great blog Lynn, thanks.

  75. Savannah001 says:

    Thanks Lynn it was like you were reading my mind.. I’ve been so so frustrated with Caroline, I can only hope that she gets a clue and fast to figure out of all people it seems that Kathy is really trying to do what Carolyn’s been screaming without screaming it. When I read an article somewhere that Teresa said in an interview people would see a softer side of her this season, wow really? I see the same rotten animal ! This woman hasnt changed at all she hates that 2 members of her family are on the show and last night Caroline got it wrong on Teresa’s dead frozen cold walk blaming it on personal financial problems, she may want to consider Teresa’s being consumed with jealousy and anger that her family members are on the show.. We heard straight from Melissa that she didnt show up during or after the birth of her son at the hospital. I think that her brother probably wishes that things played out alittle differently at his sons party, BUT I understand. I can see it, to me it looks like Teresa is her parents keeper and she keeps them away from her brother and his family as much as possible. I believe the parents are always at her home, I can understand the way her brother must feel. Although the parents should make the time to see him and his family, I believe her brother when he said that Joe and Teresa feed them with so much negativity. He works he has bills to pay and as Melissa says they pay their bills. Joe that asshole can’t even drive and what he pulled trying to get a license he should be in jail as far as I’m concerned right now. The pizza shop he owns I dont believe that they can maintain Teresa’s way she wants to live her life with income from that place, no way. So she has a book and sales from that, I can see that their clothes are updated and that money will not last long. I just dont get it..

    One of the things that bothers me more than anything is the way people just seem to forget her bad behavior, I don’t know what to think about all the blogs over at Bravo. I posted to Melissa but of course Bravo doesnt post it, I havent checked today yet to see if she has a new blog up, but so far they seem to not have a problem putting negative blogs up where Melissa is concerned. I just cant believe people forget about Teresa behavior..

    I’m team Melissa all the way

    • dsc60 says:

      i don’t believe melissa said teresa didn’t go to the hospital, i think she said joe didn’t go. i’ll try to catch that again in a rerun.

  76. Malinia says:

    LynnNChicago says:
    May 24, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    https://lynnnchicago101.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/ihjz-the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey-watch-what-happens-live-second-posting/

    Second posting of “The Real Housewives of New Jersy” blog. Check both boards for comments on last night’s show.

    (we are posting in two places! Just a head’s up all)

  77. krone says:

    It’s 12:30 am here in Maine and I’m watching a rerun of the Posche show. Check out T; I swear she’s aged about 10 years since last season. She’s wearing far too much makeup which is settling into and accentuating the lines & crows feet etc. With all of the action so far I’m just now seeing how much she’s aged in a very short time. I wonder if she’s beginning to realize how screwed up her life is.

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