I Hate Jill Zarin/ Oprah’s Finale/ May 25, 2011

I Hate Jill Zarin  Oprah’s Finale by Quincy IL

Thanks Boston02127 for the photo work!  Nice job LOL

The Final Oprah by Quincy IL

Oprah wore pink for her final goodbye.  She looked better than she did 25 years ago when she moved from Baltimore and started a show in Chicago. Her first show was a cooking show with an electric pan, two football players and no audience.  The next day, the set up folding chairs and forced the staff to become her audience. They would lure people off the street with offers of coffee and doughnuts. 

People in the audience were crying and at times she looked like she might cry, but she did not.  Oprah thanked her audience and the viewers at home for being with her for 4,561 days of her life.  She mentioned the song “Amazing Grace” and how much that song means to her. 

Oprah was 30 years old when she arrived to work for the AM show of WLS.  She was so grateful for the opportunity.  They showed video of her in the early shows in velour outfits.

Oprah always wanted to be a teacher and this show was her opportunity to teach.  Today, there would be no gifts under their chairs and no surprises.  This show was her love letter to all of her friends who have watched her for so many years.

Oprah felt she was called to do this.  She said that everyone is called and over the years she learned that the people most successful were those who answered the calling and loved doing what they were doing. She said it did not have to be a paid position and mentioned many volunteers that she has had on over the years. She talked about pie ladies and prisoners who train puppies for soldiers missing limbs.

Oprah talked about the many stars like Lady Gaga and Tina Turner who have entertained the audience and loved their careers.  She talked about the inner spark that illuminates within all of us.  She mentioned that her show was watched in 150 countries.

Oprah said that her platform was the stage, but all of us can reach out to others and help them.  She called this our circle of influence.  She said she learned to hear and to heal.  She wanted everyone to carry forward what they have learned.  Everyone has the power to change their own life.

They shared a scene from “The Color Purple” with Whoopi Goldberg where her character leaves the farm that had entrapped her for her whole life.  Whoopie said, “Everything done to me already done to you.”  Oprah broke that circle when she left the Mississippi farm and went to Chicago and to her life with all of us.  She asks  us to do the same.

In the beginning, her show featured a lot of people who made bad choices and blamed everyone but themselves. She said she changed after reading the book of a Harvard neuroscientist who had a stroke and found that she could perceive Energy within her doctors and nurses.  This insight helped Oprah throughout the years. There is a sign in her office that reads: “Please take responsibility for the Energy that you bring into my space.”

Oprah believes in the 3rd Law of Newtonian Physics:  for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.   No one completes you.  Live your life knowing that you are not alone.

In one of Oprah’s early shows they featured a family whose father was an alcoholic. The showed a 3 year old comforting her mother.  Oprah said that we have to stop these cycles.  The showed people who were guests on her shows telling the audience that they were alcoholics, gay, had AIDS, were raped, beat their wives, and addicted to drugs.

Oprah had a friend who was angry with her and did not speak to her for 12 years over a misunderstanding.  The friend admitted that she felt unworthy, but Oprah wisely did not take responsibility for the feeling of her friend. Oprah said you can block your own blessings. You alone are enough.

Oprah’s grandmother used to hit her upside the head, but  she said that when you hear the whisper you should listen and be responsible for what happens to you as an adult. 

Oprah regrets not having done enough to stop child sexual seduction and rape.  She spoke of not blaming herself for what happened to her as a child.  She learned that the predators are manipulative and that children are the victims.  Tyler Perry told people of the abuse he suffered as a child and 200 men in audience stood up with photos of themselves during the time they were abused sexually. Today those men are fathers, doctors and teachers and they want this abuse to stop.

The show was a safe harbor for Oprah.  The audience liberated her so that she could share the things that had happened to her and help others.

Oprah’s 4th grade teacher asked to be there on her last day.  This teacher validated Oprah and gave her the opportunity to shine.  The teacher was on the show in 1988 and she was quite elderly now, but she wanted to be there for Oprah on her last day.

You can contact Oprah at oprah@oprah.com and she is going to read the email.  You may get a reply. 

She started her life in 1954 in rural Mississippi when she was a lonely little girl.  Her parents and grandmother did what they could do. 

Oprah spoke to the audience and to the people watching at home.  She said, “You have been the great love of my life.” The camera went to her boyfriend, Stedman who was clapping. She said that people asked her if ending her show was bitter sweet, but she said it was” all sweet, no bitter.”

She mentioned that so many had kept gratitude journals with her. She said that we should keep sweet inspiration until we meet again.

Oprah’s final words were: “To God be the Glory.

Jill Zarin and the Moroccan Trip

I noticed that Jill Zarin felt the need to go after Ramona Singer concerning Ramona’s fear of traveling to Morocco.  I read articles suggesting that there were requests for for increased security in the fall of 2010 and had used that idea in the story that Lynn and I wrote before season 4 of “The Real Housewives of NYC” began.  In the spring of 2010, Jill and her family members went to Israel and visited with members of the Israeli Army.  I read her comments about her trip on her twitter.  These tweets are in the archives of this blog somewhere.   Jill knows that travel to that part of the world requires vigilance and security.  It’s not a trip to Disney World.

The following paragraph was taken from Jill Zarin’s blog:


“I loved seeing Luann and Sonja have a lunch that wasn’t about bashing anyone, just working together to plan a fabulous trip to Morocco. I had heard so much about it and seeing that I am finally kid free, I was able to leave home for a week with my girlfriends. I know how many children we have among us and how hard it is for everyone to leave their lives, so to say “trip of a lifetime” is an understatement. I rarely leave Bobby for even one night, unless I am visiting my parents. When I asked him if he would mind if I went without him, he didn’t try to control me and make me feel guilty. Hearing Ramona say they don’t respect women in Morocco made me cringe. Morocco is not Iran or Saudi Arabia. Her ignorance is no longer a viable excuse. Wait until you see what happens when we actually get there!” 

Actually Jill, Morocco is a lot like Iran before the 1979 Revolution.  The King keeps a tight grip on the citizens’ activities as did the Shah of Iran.  There have been terror attacks and protests that have been shut down by the government of Morocco.


Jill made comments about being Jewish and going to Morocco.  The NYPost thought she was joking. The possible dangers of going to Morocco must have been on Jill’s mind also.  She lived in NYC during the 9/11 attack so I am sure she is aware there are dangers from terrorism as we all do.  So why make such a big deal about Ramona’s statements?  Jill probably forgot that she made these statements/jokes.

The following is from the New York Post:

The “Real Housewives of New York City” are doing their best to emulate “Sex and the City 2” on location in Morocco. Kelly Bensimon, Jill Zarin and Countess LuAnn de Lesseps jetted out to Marrakech last Thursday and Alex McCord, Ramona Singer and Sonja Morgan flew out on Friday. A source told Page Six, “It’s totally ‘Sex and the City’-inspired. They’re riding camels, staying at the same plush hotels and going to the markets . . . We’re already guessing which one will have an ex-boyfriend show up like Carrie Bradshaw. The ladies have of course been as demanding as ever, insisting to only fly in a class with a flat bed and personal security. Jill even joked, ‘Why are we going to Morocco — don’t they know I’m Jewish?’ ”


 I think Jill Zarin did not remember that articles about her thoughts on the trip were in the New York Post and online.   I see this as another inconsistency.  Jill felt the need to point out Ramona’s concerns in her blog, but ignores her own concerns at the time.

Jill Zarin is not afraid to have a snake on her head because she wears snake skin shoes.  This is Jill trying to be funny.  You have to give her credit for trying. 

Luann was correct about Marrakesh; it is a lot like Paris.  The population had been known to have riots and burn cars in the streets.   That has happened several times in Paris in the last few years. 

For the next three weeks, “The Real Housewives of New York City” are going to Marrakesh.  They play out their version of “Sex and the City 2” with colorful costumes, visits to exotic souks (exotic markets) and camel rides.  It’s going to be fun even if Jill spends her time complaining and fighting with Ramona. I’m exicted. 


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297 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin/ Oprah’s Finale/ May 25, 2011

  1. quincyil says:

    There is a photo out where Jill has a snake on her head. It is the wrong type of photo for word press so I could not put it on the blog.

    • Christine says:

      I’m glad to see you here. I checked Wunderground for your weather yesterday and it didn’t look good.

      • quincyil says:

        Even the small twisters destroy, but it’s the mile plus wide monsters that I truly fear. I remember hiding under a table with quilts over the sides in a house with no basement as a child. My mom was with us, but my uncle had let me watch the Wizard of Oz so I was so scared. My dad sold that house and moved us into one with a basement after that storm.

        • Fi says:

          Does the basement truly safeguard one from those F5’s? We have a large basement, but I am still terrified. Those stories from Joplin, Mo are heartbreaking.

          • quincyil says:

            I bet it depends on the structure of the house.

            I was in a 5 when visiting my aunt in Albion Nebraska. We had a storm shelter which was a hole in the ground lined with cement blocks and a wooden door that they bolted shut.

            When we came out we went to the town where all of the trees were just trunks and 8 people died.

            My uncle stayed there to work, but my aunt took me sister, two cousins and I back to the farm. She didn’t want us to see the dead people.

            I remember watched the dark green sky turn to black as the clouds came over the low hill and I remember the sound like a train.

            I wish they could control these things. Maybe, someday.

            • quincyil says:

              my sister and me… I don’t know what I was thinking when I wrote them. I think my head was in the Land of Oz.

            • Fi says:

              I can’t even imagine. That must have been incredibly traumatizing.

              Definitely wish they could find a way to weaken the storms before any tornadoes take to the ground. It seems mother nature has us beat.

        • Amy says:

          I grew up in Iowa. We used to hide in the basement bathroom inside the tub. My hubby and I just got our power back on late early Wednesday morning after being off since Monday. There are still people here without power.

  2. Lavalady says:

    Some people asked last week why Brad was in Morocco. According to my tv listing, Jill runs into Brad while out shopping in Morocco. He then invites everyone to his birthday party the same night.

    • quincyil says:

      That is like Sex and the City 2 when Carrie met Aden in a souk.

      How unusual to run into someone in Morocco.

    • quincyil says:

      Brad went shopping in Morocco and left from an airport in upstate NY.


      Would someone please come up with an explanation other than Jill Zarin told Brad to play the role of her Aden to her Carrie Bradshaw in Morocco?

      • T-REX says:

        UGH! RHNY seems to have turned into a “low-rent”, “untalented” try at emulating Sex and the City, and since I am not watching, but reading on this wonderful Blog, I am quite happy to not waste my time. Thanks Lynn for this wonderful place and to Quincy for adding additional blogs for my entertainment, because from what I have been reading, the RH franchises are not worth the time anymore. I can’t wait for the next Bethenny installments though!

        • quincyil says:

          We will follow 9 by design as it moves to HGTV this summer. We also will follow Dinza Manzo and her decorating show at HGTV.

          I will ask Lynn about following Design Star. That is a show that I bet some people here watch.

          There are several news shows at Bravo coming up.

  3. boston02127 says:

    Thank you for blogging about Oprah. I had to work and missed it. I’m hoping to catch it on demand. The woman that owns the dance school that I work at made a dinner from Oprah’s cookbook and brought it in for us. It was chicken breasts cubed and broccoli that was marinated in soy sauce and lots of garlic. Then you broil it. It was delicious, I could of eaten 3 plates of it.

    I luv’d Oprah’s last words. Class act!

    • quincyil says:

      I think she has had a hard life as a child and young adult. She is gifted when it comes to dealing with people and business.

      I hope she finds happiness.

  4. quincyil says:

    In the category, thanks for sharing, Jill:


    Jill felt the security on her way to Morocco went too far with the pat down of the private parts of her body.

    • boston02127 says:

      Security should get a raise after that pat down!

      • Wicked says:

        Or germX

        • La Dolce Vita says:

          If I was next in line I surely ask the TSA agent to throw those gloves away and put on new ones.

          On a serious note, I wonder if the TSA use new gloves on each new pat down.

          • MAMAZ says:

            I think if they patted down Kelly they would have gotten a surprise.

          • Christine says:

            Female TSA agents pat down female passengers using the backs of their hands in “sensitive” areas. And, yes, gloves are changed for each passenger. (I did a short stint with their legal department.)

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          I would hope the TSA agent was wearing a hazmat suit at the time. You just never know where Jill Zarin’s vagina has been.

          • jillz68 says:

            Unless jewels were provided (and not Barstops kind) I doubt her vagina has been anywhere interesting.


            • Rabble Rouser says:

              With the way Jill acts like she is the beacon of all things Jewish, I’m not surprised that she has deluded herself into thinking it’s the Arch of the Covenant that is being discussed.

  5. boston02127 says:

    It’s a beautiful sunny day today. Thankfully. I’m going to go spray paint the porch furniture. It’s forest green. I bought cream color spray paint. It’s a good day to do it. BBL, Have a good morning everyone.

    • T-REX says:

      Hey Boston! Looking forward to the Game Friday night. Although we are fans of opposing teams at least the Bruins and Lightning have made this an exciting playoff!

  6. ramonacoaster says:

    Great blog Quincy! Glad that you mentioned that Morocco was like Iran before the 1979 revolution. Status of women in Muslim countries vary from place and time so Ramona having reservations about going to Morocco is reasonable. I’m sure with her resale clothing business she has contacts in different parts of the world and is informed of happenings around the world. I do remember working for a publishing company around 1999-2000 and I had contact with a woman from Pakistan. She told me that she was being replaced and my new contact would be a male because of a growing Islamic fundamentalism. I remembered Benazir Bhutto was a woman elected as Prime Minister of Pakistan so I thought that Pakistan would be more progressive but I guess things change constantly depending on the political and social mood.

    • quincyil says:

      We have dinner parties with people from many Middle Eastern nations and Islamic codes for women are on the rise in Turkey and Pakistan.

      I refuse to go to Iran. The Islamic regime requires that I change my name to an Islamic name, become a Muslim, wear the headcovering for the photo for the visa and sign in my sons for military service in Iran. I will not do any of those things. This is because I am married to an Iranian man.

      Americans can travel to Iran without these restrictions, but being married makes me less than a normal American so I won’t go.

      I give my reasons to relatives in the Iranian goverment when invited to the weddings of their children. It’s my personal protest and since their wives want me to come, it hits them at home.

      • ramonacoaster says:

        They’re better off coming to America and visiting you and your husband. As soon as tornado season is over.

        • Laura says:

          I don’t think we’re even fully in “tornado season” yet are we? I’m in Ohio and I just heard on the radio that they had to close down Cedar Point – an amusement park – b/c there was a reported tornado in the area. They’ve even reported tornadoes in Norther California recently….

          I’m not one to cross Mother Nature…but she sure seems like a fickle b*tch these days!!!!

          • quincyil says:

            Last summer we lost electricity and had damage at my daughter’s home in CT. The news said it was a tornado.

        • quincyil says:

          LOL… torandoes can come all year round. LOL

          • Laura says:

            Oh I definitely know they can come anytime of the year…but Spring is considered “official” tornado season I think…

            My oldest daughter and I were in one coming home from my parents back in 2007 and oddly, my bro and s-i-l were in the same one, two miles away…it was THE most terrifying thing ever.

  7. Laura says:

    Great recap of Oprah Quincy. I’m such a sap and having watched Oprah for the 25 years she was on the air – I cried like a baby watching her final show yesterday lol I don’t know why…it was more inspiring and not sad….

    On the topic of Morocco – this last Cycle of America’s Next Top Model traveled there as well and there didn’t appear to be any problems with any of the girls. I did notice though that the majority of the time they were out in public, in the markets or walking to and from things, they did cover their heads.

    • quincyil says:

      I have friends that go to Kuwait and Dubai. They keep scarves with them in case they run into fashion police.

      I asked me husband if his niece would wear a head covering at Arizona State and he said sure, if it’s raining or cold. LOL. She got into a fight in a Birjand ice cream shop when her scarf slipped off once. She touched the arm of the woman who was bothering her and had to sit in jail for one week. After that, her family decided that she needed to go to America.

      • Laura says:

        Holy crap! Just b/c her head covering slipping off?? Kinda makes me wish we could put some people in jail for a week for their fashion faux pas !

      • AZ Girl says:

        HA! If its rainy or cold….

      • Melody says:

        There are no fashion police in Kuwait or Dubai. Local women dress modestly and the expats do their own thing.

    • Lavalady says:

      ABC TV is launching a new series, Expedition Impossible, on June 23, 2011. The setting is Morocco, created by Mark Burnett, hosted by Dave Salmine.

      Sounds like an Amazing Race type of show, where teams compete for prizes under extreme adventure conditions.

  8. WindyCityWondering says:

    Oprah used her final hour to inspired all those who have watched her over the years to continue to be positive, to be responsible and to “get it” (really listen and understand what another person is bringing into your life). She considered her show a classroom and now her classroom will continue in whatever she does in the future. To think Jill Zarin is any of these thinks is both funny and sad.

  9. error404 says:

    Hey, wasn’t one of the challenges on CA to do an ad campaign for Trump SoHo Hotel?

    Seems my old boss and the developer are suing each other over it. The whole thing sounds like a mess! http://therealdeal.com/newyork/articles/bayrock-group-led-by-julius-schwarz-and-sapir-organization-led-by-alex-sapir-sue-the-rockwell-group-and-head-david-rockwell-over-trump-soho-architecture-at-246-spring-street

    • quincyil says:

      Interesting. I went in the Trump Casino in Vegas on the strip. The waterfalls outside were interesting too.

      I really don’t care for “The Donald.” I watched his show for this blog, but he doesn’t seem like a genius to me even though he made a lot of money.

  10. quincyil says:

    About Jill rarely leaving Bobby…..

    That is a odd statement. She goes to Florida all of the time without him. She went on many trips for the show without him. I know of three trips to Chicago without him.

    I never say I am joined at the hip to my husband and Jill leaves Bobby more often than I leave my old guy.

    Maybe, if Jill says this it will be true.

  11. WindyCityWondering says:

    I have been wondering why Bravo would craft a “Sex and the City” like storyline for the RHNY. None of the wives come close to any of the SATC characters. And how can Brad be compared to Aiden in the old boyfriend category? Brad is more like a security blanket than security for Jill!

    • katlg says:

      I have been wondering why a SATC like trip, because I am not sure but I think they filmed this after the release of SATC2.
      SATC2 was an epic bomb and I speak as someone who owns a DVD of every season and the first movie.
      I did not even rent the second one when released,BOTOH,this could be Bravo’s way of letting us know what they really think of these “ladies”.

    • Sam says:

      Since America’s Next Top Model also did a few episodes in Morocco recently, I’m guessing that the Moroccan government offered Bravo a monetary incentive to film there in order to promote tourism. (Such deals aren’t uncommon.)

  12. ramonacoaster says:

    Bravo is replaying the trip to St John’s on the yacht – trying to jog everyone’s memories of what happened at Scary Island.

    • quincyil says:

      LOL. Bravo has a sense of humor.

      • Laura says:

        More and more I’ve noticed recently. Especially when someone says something in their little talking head interviews, something happened this way and then they’ll show the exact opposite of what the person just said…cracks me up every time.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      ITA – and as the horror of watching it is not as bad and I can really see the dynamics – Kelly is clearly not in control of herself and even if drugs or alcohol is involved – she is unable to be in the reality of the majority.

    • Fi says:

      I watched it as well. This part always makes me laugh, even if it shouldn’t…

      Kelly: She called you a hooker! And you want me to sit across from her???
      Sonja: Oh I thought that was funny.
      Kelly: I didn’t.
      Sonja: She was joking. She doesn’t actually think I’m a hooker. Do you get it???

  13. Butters'Mom says:

    Does anyone know where on the intertubes I can watch the last oprah for free?

  14. housewifeaddict says:

    Good morning – funny new commercial for Bravo’s summer lineup 🙂


    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Cute- too bad Jill wasn’t falling into a bed of glass.

      (My 2 year old keeps telling me to play it again and again.)

  15. AZ Girl says:

    Someone tweeted this to Jill:
    RT @KNunn524: @Jillzarin Jill I have been up ALL night reading your book! I have NOT slept at all. I CAN’T put it down MY favorite book …

    I could just vomit. Missing tonight’s episode due to traveling this weekend. Catch up next week.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill is so sad – her moldy book is not one of the great classics nor is she an author people would seek out to read. Next she will ask Bawby to have an ad done by a skywriter above NYC while dropping coupons for discounts at Zarin Fabrics.

      • quincyil says:

        The book never came to Quincy. I was hoping to find it in the dollar bin.

        Bethenny’s book: “A Place of Yes” is on the aisle in our Walmart with a special section and women are buying that book.

        Just saying….


        • Amber...Real Wife says:


          How are the books going to get to the $ store bin if they’re stuck in ZarinFabrics musty basement? They’re part of Jillousy’s “5 year plan”!

          • quincyil says:

            along with the boxes of Jill Zarin’s pens with the name of her book. Another marketing scheme by Jill Zarin. Ally smiles when she was told that at the bully conference.

    • FLG says:

      KNunn must read about as fast as Kelly gummy bears…… Up ALL night? This person seriously needs to get a drek filter or new contact lenses. What was she doing listening to Countess Squash Blossom High Horse’s CD at the same time?

      • FLG says:

        Maybe she watched an episode of RHONY before she started reading the book and was blinded by one of LuAnn’s hubcap necklaces?????

      • AZ Girl says:

        Knunn’s lips are probably moving while she/he reads.

    • La Dolce Vita says:

      I truly believe that tweet is made up…FALSE reader… definitely one of her “friends.”

    • Smompy says:

      I don’t understand that person’s reason for capitalizing the word “my” that way. Wouldn’t it have made more sense to write “it’s my FAVORITE book” as opposed to “it’s MY favorite book”? Is she trying to drop the hint that nobody else is allowed to touch HER book, or something like that?

  16. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Good morning~I think the storms are finally over here in KY. Cannot believe the damage these storms are doing these days. Hope the people get help fast in areas that were hit.
    Love & hugs

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      My heart is still breaking over Joplin- 1500 are still missing; all the newly effect areas just add to my worry and concern.

    • Okie Folkie says:

      This entire month has been so horrible, weather wise. The local news just broke in while The View was on. During our storms the other day, a young expectant mother took her 2 young sons to the bath tub, just exactly what she should’ve done. The storm hit and ripped BOTH boys from her arms. The baby (18 months, I think) was found nearby.
      The “Breaking News” that came on a while ago, they found the other boy, dead, (I think he was 3 y.o.) He was several miles away from where they lived. They suspect the tornado took him to a lake and he drowned. He surfaced this morning. So heartbreaking. The mother is in the hospital & has had 2 surgeries overnight. The baby she is carrying is said to be OK.

      No more TORNADOES, please!

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Yes- that is the story I posted. She also had a 5 year old daughter who is in critical condition. So far the only positive news for the family is they can still hear the baby’s heart beat through ultrasounds.

        • Okie Folkie says:

          Yeah, I dont have any kids, but I cant imagine loosing 2 of 3 in one day. These are good people. Ryan’s daddy was on TV this morning and he couldnt keep it together for very long, so his parents took the questions. They, too, were so upset. They’ve been showing the photos of the family. I just hope the little girl will be fine as well as her Mom and the baby.
          Its just heartbreaking….

      • Furalis says:

        That is heart breaking. I didn’t hear that report. Can you imagine? This is very very sad.

  17. Delighted says:

    An interview with Alex is up on The Daily Beast this morning…

  18. housewifeaddict says:

    I’m looking forward to watching tonight- and keeping my fingers crossed that the mean girls come off like party poopers.

    I’m still in shock about Lisa New England’s vitriolic blog calling Ramoner out as an alcoholic. I know no one reads it and takes it seriously, and I wouldn’t be shocked if she was just a normal viewer.

    It would be hypocritical to say people can only write nice things about the bravolebrities in their blogs (since I love this blog and its snark) – but with Lisa’s close ties to Jill (either Jill or works for Jill or is related to Jill) I feel like a line has been crossed by Jill – very much like amazongate. So more reasons to really really really dislike Jill.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Considering how horrible LisaNewEngland gets on Ramona then there is no way in hell that Jill can talk about haters! What a lying, nasty hypocrite – you have changed Jill? Sure to an even worse version of what we have been treated to in the past!

    • quincyil says:

      I didn’t bother to read it, but in the beginning lisa was the “nice” person who would only say good things about all of the reality stars and we werer “the haters.” Well, it became obvious that lisa was not that nice when it came to talking to Lynn on twitter or dealing with commenters on her site.

      When it was shown that lisa is the @realgingerzarin, bells went off all over the United States and Candada. lisa has something directly to do with Jill Zarin.

      If I say something about Jill Zarin, a reality star that Bravo wants us to discuss, I try to give more than a gut reaction. I try to give you a reason for my opinion based on Jill’s words and actions. Jill and her family feel it is unfair to judge her by the standard that Bravo creates, but what other standard do we have? Are we to take Jill’s word for what happened when we watch her deny things that we have watched and heard her say?

      If Jill Zarin does something good or looks great in a photo, many of us point that out. I think that is fair.

      I think Ramona self medicates with a glass of pinot grigio when she finishes work. She is high strung and feels streess from many businesses. Alcohol is a depressant. After drinking a glass, Ramona calms down. She has probably done this all of her life.

      Telling Kelly, if you don’t come to my events, I won’t come to yours ….doesn’t seem like a threat to me. It is a fact that Kelly has been talking about not filming with Ramona and Ramona was responding to Kelly’s statement that she would not attend Ramona’s events. Kelly did not go to that first wine event on the roof top.

      The reason these housewives are so sensitive about people coming to their events or homes is Bravo is more likely to use the footage if there is more than one housewife there. That is why Luann’s appearance at Ramona’s jewelry party event was a big deal. When Luann came and talked to Ramona, the event made it into the show. If you have a lunch and the other housewives don’t show up, Bravo will not show you reading your blackberry and eating on salad alone. I take that back. That would be a great scenes… A totally rejected housewife. Bravo should hire me.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        How nice would it be for Ramona to address the lover Lisa’s blog tonight on WWHL? IF Jill would have addressed Ramona’s tweet about who the alcoholic is head on I would have been impressed. Jill hasn’t said a word in her defense, yet Lisa just lobbed the big one at Ramona on her blog. Jill still doesn’t get it that when you have someone else do your dirty work the effect is the same! Jill is a hater!

        • quincyil says:

          If someone tells you they are without fault, don’t believe them. We all have our good and bad characteristics. The trick to to try and control the bad and to use the good as often as possible.

    • Wicked says:

      Jill is trying to destroy Ramona’s finances & business with this alcoholic crap like she did with Bethanny & Simon. It’s a repeat of trying to destroy someone’s livelihood & reputation. She’s an underhanded beotch.

      • Wicked says:

        Oh and IMHO, the reason why Jill, Luanne, & Kelly hate Ramona, Alex & Bethanny is that they make their own money; they didn’t sleep or marry a much older man for it. Jill is much younger than Bobby & even though Alex isn’t a Millionaire she still isn’t screwing money or marrying a rich old saggy man for it like she, Luanne & kelly did.

      • T-REX says:

        Jillousy is afraid that Ramoner may end up like Bethenny and make tons of money for doing “actual” work. Jillousy’s book tanked, her only gigs are shilling at whatever synagogue with a “ladies who lunch” group they can speak at, for probably very little money if any, the only money she is making is if one of these ladies buys a book. She has no other book deals lined up! Note Bethenny was given an advance to write her second book almost immediately after her first book came out, since it was a hit, she probably already has offers to write a few more! Alex M is also doing a second book, which means the first book did so well, that a publisher is offering them an invitation to write another book. Jillousy has nothing, zero, nada on that front. She chose to expose herself on Amazon, bad move there Jillousy, she calls folks bullies and haters, yets makes a website to do the same thing. Talks out both sides of her mouth, she says she has changed then turns around and does something even worse then before. So, she has no life, her kid went to school, her husband is semi-retired and she is a has-been, wannabe, that no one wants to have promote their products!

  19. ihearttalavera says:

    “Please take responsibility for the Energy that you bring into my space.”

    I absolutely LOVE this quote. I wish everyone would take this advice. If we were all more mindful of the energy we put out in the universe, what a great place the world could be.

    Have a great day everyone!

    • HD says:

      That is the one thing I took away from the show. Also I am going to be more vigilant about the energy that I allow people to bring into my space.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Me too!

      • quincyil says:

        I loved how Oprah told her friend that she would not take responsibility for her friend’s feelings in that dispute where they did not speak for 12 years. I need to remember that sometimes the other person has issue of her own and I can’t help her work that through. I tend to want to help people, but many people resent the offer of help.

        • midwesthousewife says:

          I tell my loved ones “I can’t carry your baggage, my arms are full but I’ll rest with you a moment.” I’m not always good at doing it but I’m a work in progress!

    • midwesthousewife says:

      As soon as my husband heard that quote he asked me to make him a sign with that for his office.

    • klmh says:

      Love that. Tx

  20. WindyCityWondering says:

    I just left a question for Andy on the WWHL blog. It basically says I love all the blogs on housewives but I don’t understand why it is near impossible to get a post on Bravo’s blogs. And that I don’t think it is fair to viewers to post only one sided comments – we all love fill in the blank!
    Sure I know he won’t address this issue but it felt good to put it out there.

    • Mbdea says:

      One of the main reasons for the migration over to Lynn’s blog here, is that the same question has been posed to Andy and Bravo a hundred times over by now and NEVER a response or a change.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ITA – Bravo doesn’t care about viewers who want to put their two cents in and many posters are here for that reason. Now it is a “game” to get something posted on Bravo’s blogs.

    • FlowerPower says:

      I think it’s funny that if the lack of negative comments allowed on the Bravo blogs is somehow connected to JZ (threats/contracts/whatever) then SHE contributed to the rise of this blog by her own actions (and not just the despicable ones that prompted the need for the negative comments in the first place).

      So (just in case), THANK YOU JILL! By trying to control what people say about you, you encouraged smart, funny, insightful people to come here instead. You can keep Andy’s balls–even if you gave them back now, I’d rather be here than on Bravo’s site.

      • quincyil says:

        The comments here about Jill seem to have something to do with her actions and words on Bravo’s show or some twitter comments. We usually take her words and give an opinion. If she didn’t have those reactions, we would not comment on Jill at all.

      • Stella says:

        I think it is funny that with Bravo not allowing negative comments on Jill’s blogs she is only left with 31 comments on this past blog. And she still tries to tell us she has 200,000+ fans. Meanwhile she should really stop with the book talk already. There is only so many copies that each of those 31 people can buy.

      • twoile says:


    • Smompy says:

      Maybe if we all simultaneously tried to call during WWHL, one of us might get through, and then that person could ask Andy, on the air, why he (or Bravo) arbtrarily censors certain viewer comments on the HW’s blogs. It’d be fun to watch him squirm his way out of answering that question.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Good idea – I will try calling and will have what I want to say written out so I don’t flub it up! lol

    • dsc60 says:

      i’ve also sent an e-mail to Bravo. never heard anything… not even a generic acknowledgement that they received my correspondence. it’s beyond frustrating. i can understand them censoring to some extent but the manipulation is what annoys me the most.

  21. California35 says:

    Are you guys kidding about NYHW trying to do “Sex and the City” ?? they are crazy…the more I read the more I see that they are really trying that? I thought it was silly to compare the two things, and maybe just maybe they were joking and that the only similar thing would be the location of the trip…nothing else. Mrs Jill is trying to be Carry and Aden with Brad – first of all not the same thing lol but lets move on…then she wants to be like Charlote with the jew thing. Yes Jill….you are soooo Charlote…NOT!! So who are the others supposed to be?

    Sorry, typing fast and probably not making any sense…I didn’t read all the coments yet…but will as soon as I can…I am very interested in what posters have to say about this. Sex and the City vs NYHW…. lol

    • quincyil says:

      Yes, there was a lot of talk about this back in Mid November 2010 and that is why I brought that article from my files. I remember the scene where Aden was shopping in the souk and Carrie Bradshow just found him by accident. If that happens with Brad, we have been set up.

      • Mbdea says:

        It’s pretty obvious the whole thing has been set-up. However, it’s that slip is no just showing –it’s down around their ankles. This show gets more and more contrived. You see more attempts at really bad acting (e.g., LuAnn when she “decides” to invite everyone on this trip). LAME!

        • California35 says:

          Who are they kidding??!! that call from Luann was so stupid…. yes, she is the one that thought about it and the one paying for it and the one hosting…. BRAVO is not her!!!

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Jill has to be POed that Bravo gave LuAnn the Trip Master General title! Ramona got it last year. Bravo is really unfair to Jill and I am loving it!

      • California35 says:

        I just HOPE they don’t drag Bethenny into this….AT ALL!! I don’t think so and I doubt it – but for this Carry meet Aden thing to work for NYHW it would be a Jill and Bethenny meeting. THAT would be a surprise and touching meeting.
        I regret even saying that becasue I hate Jill and Bethenny is far away from all of this…

        • HD says:

          I think they are truly trying to pull a Sex in the City move.

          Carrie would have been Bethanny. Now there is no Carrie. And what would Sex in the City be without Carrie?
          Samantha is Sonia
          Miranda is the Alex
          Charolette is Jill

          No matter what happens I just hope the Countess is bucked from the camel tonight!

          • California35 says:

            They can try to be those girls, but they are not lol
            You are right Bethenny was the Carrie. I can see Alex being Miranda and Charolette. Sonjia Samanth…but the others can be some extras lol

  22. T-REX says:

    I love Wikipedia, and here is a link to the RHNY housewives site, note, just as I had suspected Bethenny may be “officially” no longer part of the group and may not appear on the show this season.


    • Mbdea says:

      Good for Bethenny. When you make it to Forbes list, you don’t continue to associate with 2nd-rate pretentious knock-offs trying to pull you down.

    • Cristal says:

      alex is not coming back for the fifth season?

      • T-Rex says:

        I wonder if the other RHNY folks that are “signed” for Season 5 signed a 2 year contract, yet Alex was only granted a one year extension or if she “chose” to do a “year-by-year” contract on her own to decide on whether she would be back or not. Only time will ell.

  23. Rabble Rouser says:

    More heart break, they have found the missing 3 year old boy missing from the OK tornado. It is not a happy ending.


    • quincyil says:

      That is heartbreaking.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I know.
        I am so sad from the news and find myself wondering if there would have been a more hopeful outcome if he landed on the ground and not the pond. His baby brother has already lost his life and his 5 year old sister is fighting for hers; those poor parents- my heart breaks for them.

        • quincyil says:

          With the force of that wind, I don’t think hitting the ground would have helped.

          I am just miserable over this.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            It’s beyond comprehension. It just seems that nature is being relentless. I don’t understand how 1500 are still missing in Joplin; where is the Nation Guard and all the search and rescue teams?

            • quincyil says:

              Some of them simply went to family and did not tell anyone.

              This could happen to any of us. Parents can’t ever get over the loss of a child. We suffer with the loss of all loved ones.

              • Rabble Rouser says:

                My husband told me this morning that he had a horrible nightmare last night that our oldest DD drown in the bath tub. It was so terrifying that it roused him from a deep sleep to being wide awake with a racing heart and covered in sweat. It upset him so much he couldn’t fall back to sleep. It make me ill and scared just to hear about it, I can’t imagine how he felt.

                That was just a dream but for some parents it has become a reality. I am just gutted thinking about it.

  24. California35 says:

    Ok – I came back too soon (for my reality not for this blog), but I just have to get away from it…not having a good day…work work work. How long will I take this…not the actual work or having a job, just this place…or should I say some of these people. Any encouraging words will be appreciated…I guess some tough love too lol..

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Don’t let a bad day get you down. I’ve seen enough of your posts to know you are not a Debbie Downer or a constant complainer. I know you can take this in stride…YOU CAN DO IT. I know the day is still young here, but it’s only a couple of hours til lunch time 🙂

      • California35 says:

        THANK YOU!! 🙂 Lunch time sounds good, there will be food and the afternoon right after that. I can do this!!

    • IndianaHousewife says:

      Cali – I many times feel very similar. Here is what I tell myself, my life is not my work, I work to enjoy my life. My biggest enjoyments come from spending time and doing things for my husband and children. My job allows me to do this. I am ashamed to admit it but I have tried Kelly’s turn it down to a 2 and amazingly enough it sometimes works. It also helps to use a headset to listen to music (or bravo videos 🙂 ) Also everyone here thinks I smoke cuz I go out for a smoke break to get away. Good luck – hop you have the holiday off.

      • California35 says:

        Thanks IndianHouse. I am doing a couple of those things right now. I have my headphones on, and I go to the restroom a lot. I try to ignore things but as you can imagine some times it isn’t easy. Hey that Kelly’s thing sounds good….ignore the noise and turn down to a 2 lol. What I have been forgeting to do is make plans outside of work. Right now it just feels like work, home, work, home. But the truth is that is ALL I want to do right now 🙂 come home relax – life is good there. Look at that I feel better just thinking about that. THANK GOD I have no drama in my personal life. . .just on my TV lol
        Thanks again!

        • Sweet Pea says:

          I know it’s hard to spend your day somewhere that is unpleasant. But right now, I am desparately looking for a job…any job. Just remember that you have an income and hopefully that will help. I would explore other opportunities while you still have the current job. For some reason it always seems to be easier to get a job while you are unemployed. Maybe I need to tone the “desparation” thing down!

          • California35 says:

            I am so sorry. Here I am complaining, but it is dificult to have/get/find a job right now. THAT is why I am still here, I am affraid I won’t be able to find another job. On the other hand though, I should not let myself think that this job is the best I can do 😦 I really wish things would change, but thing just get worst for me. I even wonder if they want me to leave…and my stuburn put up with everything self just won’t quit.

            Thanks for your words, I am grateful for having a paycheck, but I should look for a nother job also. Maybe if I am persistant on it, I will be more lucky and do find a job.

  25. VAgirl says:

    Mob Wives renewed for 2nd season.


  26. butterisafruit says:

    I think Jill is trying a new method. Last year when she beat up
    Bethany. Viewers were taken back. Her response was.

    ..Watch the show, it gets better. Then she was throwing out, How
    do you get someone to know you’re sorry, on Face Book. She
    was also on a lot of day time cable news shows. She would have
    a 60 second slot to comment on whatever the D list celebrity of
    the day was doing. I know that well because my husband would
    mute the T.V. Meanwhile she kept honking, how the show gets
    better. She laid an egg.

    This season she’s being the innocent and has a whole boiler room
    doing the dirty work. That LisaNewEngland is chief torch holder.
    She’s labeling Romana as a drunk and feeling sorry for Kelly.
    Jill has her getting all this “out there”. This way Jill looks fine
    and it’s not coming from her. ..Others think so too. Give me a
    A few months ago Jill commented how much she likes that blog,
    and there was a fake write up. Hell it’s HER blog. Now that
    twitter is much more fashionable. Lisa is all aglow over Zarin.
    And the other thing I’m noticing is Simon keeps speaking up
    for Romana. And I wonder if that’s another one of the Zarin
    minions planting more stories.

    Something else is in my brain. If Jill is so thrilled with Lisa
    NE, who claims to come from Boston. How come when Jill
    comes to Boston there are no pictures of the two of them?
    And I mean a picture in front of the many local sites. Why not
    one of her signing her book at Simmons College? Or on Comm Ave?

    • quincyil says:

      Jill is close to Lisa, but we know a lot about Jill because she is photographed at many events. You would think Jill would be with her BFF.

      • butterisafruit says:

        Never a photo of the two of them. Odd huh? Lynn has pictures of her and Bethany, Alex, Simon, Cat, ahh the list goes on.

  27. Happymouth says:

    Ramona was recently in a PAWS fashion show . Ramona and her dog coco wore matching David Meister dresses ( David Meister is the designer Luanne was so mad about at the charity event and called Ramona bitchy for not sharing his dresses) Anyway, he just sent a lovely tweet to Ramona :
    ramonasinger Ramona Singer
    @ Thank YOU! How cute did Coco look? You did a great job! xo @David_Meister Thanks to you and Coco for rocking those dresses!

    • FLG says:

      Countess Squash Blossom High Horse has yet to have an original idea (besides using hubcaps as necklaces). The same goes for Our Lady of Woodmere. I was telling a friend about Jillz’s reversible spanks….he asked: “what if the lady happens to have a problem with skid marks??” He doesn’t think Jillz’s reversible skweezy/sleezy couture is such a good idea. Unless, they are ordered in brown….

      • T-Rex says:

        Okay, having a Skinny Girl Margarita(found in our local store this week finally!!) and so now is my computer(after reading this blog have gotten a small squeegy at the ready next to the ‘puter)! I am pretty persnickity about my hygiene and under garment apparel, and don’t think that midday or midevening I want to “reverse” the polarity of my garments after wearing them for hours already.

    • midwesthousewife says:

      He’d rather dress a dog than Luanne – LOVE IT!

      • Happymouth says:

        I think we should have Mickey Mouth do a chop for us. A picture of Ramona and Coco in the dresses, ( she posted one on twitter) and Coco’s head could be replaced with Luanne’s head !

  28. Smompy says:

    The NYC Housewives trying to emulate SATC is hilarious to me. First of all, the characters from SATC are pretty much shallow, vapid idiots and therefore not worthy of being emulated. My friends and I did used to get together to watch that show sometimes, but, really, it was mostly so we could snark and make fun of it. Second, unlike our lovely NYC housewives, the characters from SATC don’t viciously attack and try to passive-aggressively destroy each other all the time. As silly as Carrie, Samantha, Charlotte and Miranda may be, they’re portrayed as friends who actually have love and concern for each other. There is neither love nor concern in Housewifeland, only ego and bile. If our housewives want to emulate the characters and plot from a movie, I think maybe they should try doing their own version of “Heathers.” Acting like high school bullies wouldn’ be much of a stretch for these girls either. Yeah, THAT would be fun to watch…especially if Alex was the sole survivor.

    Who is the “Oprah” person everyone is talking about?

    • T-REX says:

      NO, please don’t ask the RHNY Hens to be the new “heathers”! On this past season of RuPauls Drag Race we got to experience a group of wonderful Divas create their own version and it was Hilarious! RHNY doing this would just kill that beautiful thought.

    • California35 says:

      GREAT POINT!! On the difference between those two SATC and NYHW. Where are the friendships?

      I watched SATC when it came out on TBS, and from then on, I got into it BIG TIME lol One other thing I like about the TV show, even though I wish it continued, is that it had an end. Those girls couldn’t play the same character over for too long. The NYHW ladies don’t want it to end…And they are past their expiration date.

    • California35 says:

      “Heahers” and “Mean Girls”

  29. TLM says:

    I thought Oprah’s last show could have been a Wayne Dyer fundraising special on PBS, the way it was done. Still, I thought the message was good. I couldn’t stay interested in the 2-day extravaganza beforehand. It was too Las Vegas for me, and I thought Oprah could have used those shows for serious interviews and had a separate special air on OWN with all the celebs.

    I just read that Albie Manzo is getting his own Bravo show online? Is anyone watching this stuff? I haven’t watched one of the Simon VK webisodes.

  30. PF says:

    It may have started out to be ‘Sex and the City’ inspired. But I think I will agree with Alex when she said it was more like ‘Survivor Housewives’. At least that is what I can tell from the previews so far.

  31. California35 says:

    On to Oprah – I did not watch yet. I have been recording it for about two/three weeks, leading to the last episode. I watch a few already…and now I wonder if I should skip them all so I can watch the grand finale. I will watch them all eventually; I will have plenty of time now that my regular shows are on a break.

    Oprah truly is an inspiration, she had a though and poor childhood and look at her now. $ and fame is not everything, so I am not saying that because she has those two she is successful, but that fact that she move forward despite her past problems.

  32. quincyil says:

    BTW, I loved Oprah is two classic movies: “The Color Purple” and “Beloved.” I read both books and because I had no classroom to discuss them in, I took a course from the Learning Company that included “Beloved.” At least, I had the input for the instructor.

    Both of these movies and books affected how I see the world. I really am grateful to Oprah for “Beloved.” I went to the movie with my youngest sister and we left in silence. Few people went to see it. Although watching the movie made me suffer, I am glad that I did go.

    • HD says:

      I loved Oprah in The Women of Brewster Place as well.

    • Stella says:

      I love The Color Purple and can practically recite it by heart. I definitely can do Oprah’s speech to Miss Ceely(sp?) on “You told Harpo to beat me.” Anyway I don’t know if anyone watches BONES but if you look at Oprah’s exaggerated walk in The Color Purple, Temperance “Bones” Brennan’s walk is a slightly toned down version of that. The first time I saw her walking on the show it cracked me up cause I automatically thought of Miss Sofia.

  33. boston02127 says:

    Tweeted to Jill by one of her “fans”~~~
    @Jillzarin UP ALL NIGHT reading your book, can’t put it down! tried 2 sleep now, CANT! My new FAVORITE BOOK! LOVE IT! back 2 reading. Mazel!
    Isn’t Jill’s book a “toilet read”? I didn’t think it even had 200 pages and this “fan” has been up ALL night reading? I think it’ a bit exaggerated, how slow can this person read? Must be one of Jill’s mini-Jill’s.

  34. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Jill Zarin covered in Snakes and giving up the Countless “Dahhhhling”. No. I will not comment. No points for the obvious.

  35. WindyCityWondering says:

    Can’t begin to imagine what a trip of a life time would be like with LuAnn as the social director. Shall we count the number of times she corrects someone’s behavior with her Darling lead in?

    • PF says:

      Doesn’t she seem like she has been in everyone’s face lately with her dahling advice?

      • FLG says:

        She’s too busy trying to locate an art school in Paris for her daughter… Frankly, I’d send Victoria to Paris, Texas. There is a very good horology school there. She could actually learn a valuable trade.

    • boston02127 says:

      And her know it all traveling experiences. Ugh, I’d rather hang out in a dark cave for 2 weeks than be on that trip.

      • HD says:

        I agree with everyone. She was acting like she was a world class traveller last week. That was working my nerves!

        • quincyil says:

          We should have a blog comparing Ramona and Luann as social directors. I think Ramona will win.

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      LuMan didn’t write her ettiquette book – LOL! I didn’t realize that all this time. Y’all may have caught that already. Was just reading the wiki page on RHONY and laughed when I read that. She is even MORE fake that I ever imagined. What a loser, I swear. Oh, and that she was the FOURTH wife of the faux count – hilarious.

      Desperately trying to make herself relevant since the husband left her and reduced her to middle class income status, all she knows how to do is get in everyone’s face with her fake manners reminders. And the whole time she didn’t even write the book on it – ha. **huge eyeroll**

      I do think it’s pitiful how she ignores those kids of hers. A shame. Bad manners, even, if I were to go that far.

      • Pantry Viewer says:

        Oh, and that the divorce when the count dumped her fake a&& included allegations of drinking and drugs to excess…on both sides. Interesting.

        • HD says:

          I am sure. Luann is so fake! It is all an act and that is a sad, sad life to lead where you have to pretend to be certain way. Luann is a woman that likes to drink, likes to screw and likes to be wild. She is not fooling anyone! Anyone that would leave their own kids to go in the city to “shop, be with Jacque and work on singing” clearly has no regard for anyone but herself. Luann wouldn’t spit on those women if they were on fire. She is all about herself and what she can drink, suck or f*ck and now that is the truth dahhhhhhhhhhhhhling.

          • FLG says:

            Loud Applause!

          • Nancy says:

            Don’t forget the chain smoking.
            That is why her voice is so low and her skin so thick. Good thing she’s not shopping for a plastic surgeon for a face lift because no one would touch her until she had a negative nicotine level.

            • Okie Folkie says:

              I think the chain smoking might fall under the category of “sucking” as mentioned in HD’s OP! 😉

            • Di says:

              I think Luanne’s personality is awful, fake, condescending, mean, passive-aggressive, full of hot air, etc. She grates on my last nerve! I am also not a fan of the gargantuan moth-inspired necklaces, but imo she looks great. I don’t think she needs a plastic surgeon and I don’t think she looks like a chain smoker. I’ve heard she smokes, but I don’t see that as a personality flaw, and I think it is responsible of her not to promote it by smoking on camera.

              Just as I don’t agree with Jill’s “Ramona is an alcoholic” b.s. just because Ramona likes to unwind with a glass or two of Pinot, I don’t think Lu (or anyone) should be vilified for unwinding with a cig or 5. Personal choices and legal substances. Obviously these aren’t the healthiest stress relievers, but neither are fast food dining, overeating, watching too much tv, and on and on. With Lu giving us so much material to dislike her for on the show, whether or not she smokes? Couldn’t give a rat’s ass.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        LuAnn didn’t really bring much to the “living the life” and for that reason her pretentious persona really drives me crazy!

        • FLG says:

          Her little “TV” show on Plum TV was absolutely horrid! She was as vapid on that as she is on RHONY and I’m being kind.

  36. Oprahwannabe says:

    I Love, love, love Oprah and have been a fan for much of her 25 years. I thought the 2 day tribute/celebration was GREAT! She has been a fierce advocate of so many and I want to be Oprah (or at least have her life and some of her money). Her final show, to me, was fine until she brought her own personal view of God and Jesus into the mix. I become Kelly when religion comes up, I tune it out and turn it down to a 1. I guess she wanted to thank her God on television and share her beliefs, but I prefer religious beliefs to be private. I will miss Oprah but know that the mark she left behind will be present forever.

  37. mamecastle says:

    I posted question on FB for Andy to ask Ramona on WWHL. I think it is horrible how they are trying to paint her as an alcoholic. It is always the teetotalers Jill & Koo-Koo who only drinks beer, tequila & wine but ‘doesn’t drink’) who claim that someone else has a problem when in fact, if I had to stay in a room with Jill Zarin I wouldn’t last 10 minutes without a glass of wine.

    ‎(from Newcasle, CA) Why does everyone let Kelly continue in the delusional belief that she was the victim on Scary Island?
    about an hour ago · Like · 1 person

    ‎(from Newcastle, CA) When kelly says she is scared to go on a vacation with you, do you just want to make her watch the Scary Island episodes tied to a chair with her eyelids forced open all “Clockwork Orange” style?
    about an hour ago · Like · 1 person

  38. Mookies1mom says:

    Hi all! I don’t twitter but if someone would send this link to Kelly I would be forever thankful. Not that she would follow it.


    • Okie Folkie says:

      Thanks for posting this klmh. I havent looked at them, yet, as I was just in Joplin this past November and want to keep it all pretty in my minds eye.

      You did see where they found Ryan Hamill, klmh? so sad.

  39. Angel says:

    I love this website. I’ve been reading it for a while this is my first time commenting. A few years ago my teenage son spent 2 weeks on Morocco on a teen tour before continuing on to Israel. He loved Morocco, the food, the sights and the people. Of course they took safety precautions but they also interacted with teenagers there,playing soccer and hanging out. He can’t wait to go back someday. He was upset when I told him the NY Housewives went there, he was afraid they would ruin a wonderful country, culture and people.

    • 2Stupid says:

      Welcome Angel, and that is 2 funny! Your son has some very valid concerns. I’m not even Israel (Jill’s homeland) would be accepting of that Shill. The key to the peace treaty is the Palestinians have to take her LOL! No offense meant to anyone!

    • Okie Folkie says:

      Welcome Angel! Glad you are now commenting! I did what you did, too. But, once you jump in and start visiting, this place is addictive, for me at any rate!

      I’m bot sure I can stay awake for the episode tonight! rut-ro….

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Welcome Angel! Nice post and it sounds like you have a very smart son!

  40. Logan says:

    I went to Morocco about 4 years ago when my flight from Spain back to the U.S. was canceled. I enjoyed seeing raw African culture after 10 days on a resort of the beaches of Spain. It was definitely a huge culture shock, but I enjoyed seeing a completely different part of the world.

    I truly don’t see most of the NY Housewives going beyond their resort villa for much else but shopping surrounded by security. Considering Jill “wanted to die” at Alex’s Brooklyn fashion show last year, she and the Countess would die if they had to mingle with lower class in Morocco.

    • quincyil says:

      Could you please take the time to comment as the show takes us on this adventure? I am really interested in your thoughts about Marrakesh. I did a lot of research, but it is really interesting that you have gone there.


      • Logan says:

        No problem. Even though I spent only a day there I remember a lot of it. I’ll post during the show about it.

        • quincyil says:

          Yippee…. I can’t wait.

          If I go, I want a Turkish anesthesiologist to hold my hand. He has been on the greatest adventures and always come back home to Quincy. LOL.

          I love my Iranian husband, but I think this Turkish guy is an adventurer and if I go I want to be on an adventure.

          Don’t worry. I will bring a scare and wear my Allah necklace. That necklace can get you out of a lot of jams in the Middle East.

  41. shamrockblonde says:

    I have never liked Oprah – just not my cup of tea – but there was one thing I heard her say once, and honestly, I’m not even sure if the quote was hers or if she was quoting someone else, but it was something that stayed with me – she said –

    if you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem –

    standing around complaining about the state of whatever will change nothing – you must get up and get going and make change happen – and I agree with that, so for that, I thank her sharing that with all of her viewers –

    as for the housewives – I hated SATC so this trip is just plain disgusting to me – clearly Ramona is the target this go around and between the tooth obsessed, the sex obsessed, to the crazy to the evil, she is being beaten up big time – thank you Lynn for this blog, as now I do not have to watch the show and be disgusted – I can come here and be truly entertained and be in the company of good friends – much better this way!

  42. California35 says:

    Bethenny Bethenny Frankel
    “A Place of Yes” is on @nytimes best sellers list again!!Thank u guys so much!I’ll personalize ur copy-check site 4 info! http://ow.ly/53TJQ

  43. Arya Stark says:

    I’m looking forward to Morocco, S&C retread phony setups or not. Watching Lulu have a camel buck her is good enough for me.

    It’s something different at least. I don’t know why BRAVO insists on pretending to have a hostess on these trips (film dates) but whatever.

    I am REALLY looking forward to Ramona tonight o WWHL, and I hope for ONCE Andy gets out of his own way and Ramona blurts out a lot of truths about that viper Jill, the sickening Countless, and batshit crazy Kelly. Please don’ be lady tonight ‘Mona!

    I also hope she is the only guest. Anyone know?

    Question for you Tornado Row people, and I hope it’s OK to ask this. Do you have storm shelters? If I had to live anywhere Tornadoes or Hurricanes were likely, I just can’t imagine not having a place to go. If I had to dig it myself in the backyard, or make friends with a hateful neighbor that had one, or pay more to live in an apartment with a reenforced basement/shelter I would. Tornadoes have always scared the crap out of me.

    Part of that is, of course, seeing THE WIZARD OF OZ when I was about 8. I hated that movie, just HATED it. I had nightmares for a long time from that thing, and would never let a child watch it. The tornado, the fake Wizard, the witches, the horrifying flying monkeys, ALL of it.

    But the other part is that I had relatives on my dad’s side who lived in Tornado Alley, and came to visit us after a devastating Tornado, way back in the 50s or 60s. I remember listening to them and just being so scared of the sudden devastation. They had a dug-out shelter and survived (I pictured it to be much like Auntie Ems, and I think it was actually) and survived, but lost everything, including many friends and neighbors.

    I have always lived in Earthquake country, several areas, but almost always near major fault lines. THEY thought that we were nuts to risk living in earthquake country. So is it just “what you know” is less scary? Who knows?

    /rambling thoughts

    My hearts go out to all the people in Joplin. So horrifying.

    • ForReality? says:

      I’ve never experienced a Tornado, but I live in an area that gets frequent warnings. This past fall, we had sirens going off on multiple separate occasions around midnight and later. It scared the crap out of me. I wonder how many of these Joplin residents would have been saved if they had some sort of underground shelter. It really is sad to hear their stories and try to imagine yourself in those moments when they felt their lives were slipping away.

      • Arya Stark says:

        I think that, in general, a lot of people just don’t prepare for emergencies.

        As I said, I live in Earthquake (and Tsunami!) territory. The whole tsunami thing is new to me, but I have always lived in Earthquake land. I have always kept an earthquake kit in my (tiny!) car, and one in my house. Having been through many smaller quakes and one huge one (world series quake) I know how important that is.

        My neighbors? Not so much. My friends and family? Hit or miss.

        It’s just second nature to me to pick out a place I would “go” should an earthquake hit, and yes, that means even if I am in the grocery store or at a mall, in the park (avoid power lines, huge trees) and certainly in my own neighborhood or at work.

        Help just doesn’t arrive as fast as people think it will, especially in more remote areas. It took 3 days for minimal help to arrive in Santa Cruz for example.

        During the tsunami evacuation here earlier this year, I ended up taking pets and all to a friend’s house that was out of the evacuation zone. She was panicked. She had no water store, didn’t even fill up a pot or the tub. She doesn’t like “clutter” so she had no extra cat food, or even human food to eat, maybe a day’s worth. Nothing that didn’t need cooking (that in an earthquake is pretty necessary!) She kept talking about being more prepared in the future.

        It’s several weeks later. At the store she still bought 4 cans of cat food. The smallest size of peanut butter. I reminded her that she wanted to be more prepared and suggested a few things that she could “store” in her garage if she didn’t want “clutter” in her nearly empty cupboards. Some crackers. A bigger jar of peanut butter. Some applesauce cups. Candy. Whatever. She decided it was depressing and negative to think about, so has done nothing.

        Not even an extra flashlight, batteries, or a couple of gallons of water. No small radio with batteries. Nothing. Even though she has a huge SUV, she didn’t want to “clutter” it by packing a small bag with stuff that could see her through a few days. She won’t even make sure she has cash in small bills in her purse!

        I just don’t get it. I think everyone should be prepared. Frankly, we are not Japan. Our buildings and emergency preparedness suck. If the projected (and overdue) magnitude 8 or 9 quake hits here on in the Pacific Northwest? The death and destruction will swamp Japan’s numbers.

        Stuff doesn’t work after disasters. I don’t think people understand that unless they have been though it. Water may be contaminated. There is no electricity. ATMs don’t work. Gas pumps don’t work. Cash registers don’t work. Fire is not safe since there may be gas lines broken, so candles and BBQs are a dangerous proposition.

        Almost everyone lives in an area with a chance of a disaster, from wildfires to tornadoes to earthquakes or hurricanes. I guess I just don’t understand why people don’t prepare as best they can to take care of themselves for days or weeks.

        Joplin is a reminder for all of us. I am certainly not saying that anyone in Joplin wasn’t prepared here! I’m just saying that maybe it is time for everyone to look around in their own areas and ask “am I as ready as possible?” Is the gas tank full? Do I have cash? Where is my shelter-in-place? Do my kids have a number to call out of state should something happen here? Do they know what to do should the house fire alarms go off? Have I replaced those batteries?

        We are getting a lot of “head’s up!” messages from mother nature. Have we done what we can do?

        • Okie Folkie says:

          Where I do see your point in being prepared. A tornado is somewhat of a different animal.
          Lets say I happen to be prepared for several days ‘off the grid’. I have water, I have extra canned food, I have flashlights and batteries. I have everything I need….the only problem is the tornado came and now all of my extras are half a mile to 100 miles up the road.

          For Earthquakes, a “kit” IS the way to go for sure.

          In fact, we have been having a lot more Earthquakes in recent years. This past fall we had a 4. I felt it.

          • Arya Stark says:

            I know. Tornadoes are a different thing. I do swear that I would dig out a storm shelter myself if I lived in that area though! With a few supplies. I know, for example, that I always keep my important papers by the door in a little expandable folder. Just grab and go.

            BUT, I can also see that when something has been a constant danger but never hit your area in 50 years, it would be easy to think that it probably wouldn’t happen.

        • NJ Bev says:

          @Arya, regarding your friend who refused to
          stock-up because of clutter- could it be that she
          has a financial issue and cannot afford to stock
          up? just a thought….

          • Arya Stark says:

            Nope. She is fairly well off.

            It’s just STRANGE.

            Especially since she has a house twice as big as mine, AND a huge garage.

        • jeang says:

          I am in Hurricane country and before 2004 was only directly affected in 1963 with Hurricane Donna, which ultimately resulted in the death of my grandaddy. In 2004 we were hit every other friday for 6 weeks with 3 hurricanes and I had to use alot of paid vacation due to damage and no power etc. I now have loaded pantry and freezers, jugs of water, 2 generators, lots of batteries, fans, flashlights, radio, 3 weeks supplies of cat and dog food and grill and charcoal etc, (i am in rural area with no worries for gas lines, since there are none this far out)I also fill bathtub nearly everytime we get bad storms cause once you are bit, you never forget.

          • FLG says:

            I’ve been in South Florida for a long time. We stay prepared for hurricanes all year. 2004 was awful. We lost water service and didn’t have power for the longest time. I always fill tubs, garbage cans, etc. with water and keep a good stock of canned goods, batteries, portable radio and television, gasoline, oil, etc. After hurricane Andrew I decided that I would never have to rush out and try to get supplies again. It has worked for us so far. I did the same in the tornado shelter that was in my backyard when I lived in Wichita. It takes a long, long time for help to arrive. You have to do all you can do to provide for yourself. I’m still waiting for the FEMA ice they promised to arrive….after hurricane Wilma.

    • Okie Folkie says:

      Most of our Public schools are, in fact storm shelters. Also a lot of ‘Public’ buildings such as Post Offices etc… the problem is, once the sirens begin sounding you may have less than 2 minutes to get to a shelter. Of course, sometimes the sirens go off and nothing happens. Thats what happened in my community on Tuesday. Our sirens were going off non-stop for at least half an hour.

      Those tornadoes were tracking just a couple of miles to the south of where I live.

      • Arya Stark says:

        Yeah, and having tsunami sirens go off for 9 hours here really made me understand that people might ignore other types of sirens after hearing them for years and seeing nothing come of them.

        In my neighborhood, even a 5 ft tsunami would have breached the dike, but I would say only about 30% evacuated. I did, feeling a bit silly, because the likelihood was slim. Then I asked myself, “would you rather feel stupid for evacuating or stupid for staying put and being flooded?”

        I left, but I totally understood those who did not.

        If that were to happen several times a year would I become complacent? Maybe.

  44. shamrockblonde says:

    completely off topic – this had me in tears – we tend too often to get so caught up in all of our worries that we forget just how precious life truly is – please say a prayer for all of these families – may God hold them all in the palm of His Hand –


    • Rabble Rouser says:

      Yes, so sad- his baby brother also lost his life and his big sissy is fighting for hers. I wish there was something I could do for this family. I wonder if there is a fund set that will help them pay for funeral expenses.

  45. TEB2350 says:

    I’m not sure if this has been discussed yet b/c I haven’t had time to read all the comments yet. I have to defend Ramona on her comment about Morocco. I’ve been there- granted it was 10-years ago- and I am curious to see tonight’s episode to see if it has changed at all. When I was there, we were specifically instructed to cover as much as our body as we could and to be VERY careful as women. I think her concern for going there was warranted. I’m not sure if it has changed in the past 10 years but that was how it was then.

    • TY says:

      I understood where Ramona’s apprehension was coming from. I’ve never been to any middle eastern country, and I have to admit I would feel nervous going in. I think we have a level of comfort here that we wish we could have everywhere but that isn’t the case. I’m also very interested to see how this trip plays out. I’m hoping they’ll meet and hear the stories of some local women there.

      • dsc60 says:

        my sister lived in Morocco for six months when my bil was in the Navy in 1969. while she didn’t venture beyond the Navy housing much, the one thing i remember her saying about living there was how little they regarded life in general. for instance, if you hit someone with your car, it was better to make sure they were killed or else you would have to support them and their family for life. they could afford a maid because it was sooo inexpensive. she also talked about the open air markets and the meats and whatnot hanging out in just that, the open air. she brought me back many things, i remember most the tapestries that were just a few dollars. i still have them as a matter of fact. she told some very interesting stories if i could only remember them all.

    • quincyil says:

      I did address the issue in the blog nd it was discussed on the board, but new input from someone who has gone is always welcome.

    • error404 says:

      I suspect this is the one of those times she get shit coming and going. First the brown-noses slam her for saying it’s sexist, then they will spend the whole trip slamming her for not respecting their sexist culture. Having already called her ignorant and uninformed, I fully expect them to spend the next two episodes criticizing her for not covering up properly, drinking, being loud, etc… all things that they will now say are not correct behavior for a woman in such a “european” type culture *rollseyes*

  46. California35 says:

    From Bethenny —

    “The official kick off to summer is here and I couldn’t be more excited! I have to be honest, since the finale of Bethenny Ever After, I’ve been able to take some quality time to rest and play with Bryn. It’s so nice to do so many outdoor activities with Jason, Bryn, and Cookie. Bryn is growing so quickly and I don’t want to miss a second of it.

    It’s been 9 weeks since the release of “A Place of Yes” and I’m so please to announce that it still is on the New York Times Best Seller list and I owe it all to you guys. The feedback I’ve received makes me so inspired and happy to have shared it all.

    I received some requests asking for Skinnygirl recipes for summer barbecues and I’ve made several delicious and easy recipes that I wanted to share with you, including some useful Skinnygirl tips to keep in mind before hitting the food line (click here for recipes and tips). Happy Memorial Day, have a Skinnygirl weekend and please remember driving and alcohol DO NOT MIX! “

  47. I LOVE COFFEE says:

    Some of my friends aren’t going to watch the trip to Morocco. One e-mailed Bravo and said they were going to boycott the trip. She said she wasn’t going to watch Jill, Lumann, Krazy Kelly, being mean to the blondes just to make Jill happy

  48. VAGirl says:

    Here is a housewife article from a college student’s perspective (Other than Boston 02127. )


    • Arya Stark says:

      I agree with her.

      • Arya Stark says:

        There are some really good comments on that blog too. I liked this one, for example:

        Julie Philips · 3 hours ago
        Teresa’s brother was drunk. At his son’s christening, this low-life gets disgusting drunk. He called his sister garbage. He should of had his clock rung right then. He didn’t care children would hear this. He didn’t even consider his actions could have caused serious repercussions on his father’s health. He went over and yelled at him. Horrible. Whah-Boo-Hoo-Poor Me, my father doesn’t love me the best. My sister ignores me. Joe G. owes me money, he’s a pig. Then Melissa, makes excuses for her wonderful husband. He is not the victim in this situation. He’s a low-life, self pitying, little man, who got drunk and showed his true character.

  49. Pantry viewer says:

    Watching the reunion as cook dinner. Just really hit me that the blondes are just flat out smarter than the brunettes. They are more real, articulate and genuine. Jill and luman only say things to put others down, either outright or more often sneakily in passive aggressive way. I’m just talking about the reunion right now. ..of course everything the brunettes say this season is preplanned.

    • Nancy says:

      Actually I think Jill is brilliant. It takes brains for someone to loose fans as fast as Jill has. Good work Jill. A+

    • T-Rex says:

      The Blondes were able to tell the truth of what really happened, the Brunettes(not Bethenny) were A) Trying to keep psyckoKKB in check, while B) Jillousy was trying to salvage whatever reputation she had, and had to add the word “bully” into the conversation, like she was being paid each time she said it, and pontificating on how everyone else was forgiven for their apologies while she was being held accountable for hers digressions, for shame, oh and getting in the same “digs” that she was apologizing for and C) Lumann just trying to be relevant on the Reunion because she was not present for the KKB meltdown on Scary Island nor the incident when JillousyFoghorn showed up uninvited, and unexpected the very next day, but insisting in her own mind that she knew all sides. Like she took sides in the Bethenny/Jillousy breakup without knowing the facts. Even on the dais on the Reunion, when she knew that KKB misunderstood something mentioned she made a small comment, but let it go to keep with the “pact”. Oh, and I think Luman wanted to break the record for the most amount of showings of a woman dressed in a one shoulder outfit.

  50. Pantry viewer says:

    Interesting on the reuinion when Andy tells bethenny to stand up and show how great she looks after Just having the baby
    Jill says, “People ate going to hate you” for looking great. Um no hill that’s just you.

    • Nancy says:

      Bethenny at the reunion looked BEAUTIFUL!!
      What ever weight she was then she should stay. IMHO
      Jill looked like a 13 year old. Green shoes, green bracelets, off the shoulder black dress, long “hair”. I could go on and on but no thanks. I don’t want that image stuck in my head, again.

    • T-Rex says:

      Yeppers! Again as I said earlier, Jillousy trying to “save face” but give a
      “dig” at Bethenny for looking so good, since the tabloids were already at it, via the Jillousy network. Also, remember that Jillousy is trying to get sympathy in that statement for not being invited to B’s wedding and not seeing the Baby Brynn. Like viewers are going to turn against Bethenny for not letting toxic Jillousy around the beautiful Brynn. This was after Jillousy had to “fess up” to telling other RHNY members not to film with Bethenny after she stated “on camera” she didn’t do this, but then confesses she did say this, in her round about “everyone” has done this crap. Uhm, nope another “dig” at Bethenny, she is the only one that didn’t want to film with another housewife, she wanted to stay away from KKBKrazyHorse as much as possible!!

    • California35 says:

      Bravo is showing this again? lol go for them lol

      In case any one missed it and or needs to be reminded 🙂

  51. California35 says:

    eeewww I just saw one of the previews for tonight’s episode…..yiiiiikes!! it is with snakes…..

    • boston02127 says:

      Ewww I know. I hate snakes, I turn away when they show them on TV.
      I hate just about anything without fur.

    • TY says:

      I think I would freeze upon seeing one. I don’t know how some people deal with them on a regular basis, even find them in their homes. Ack!

  52. California35 says:

    Here I go again getting hopefull — I just heard that someone will be joining the company. This position didn’t exist ever until about three months ago with someone who only worked here for about three months. In that time things actually got worst for me and left that mark. The position has been open again, and someone is coming in. I am hoping (yet again) that thigs could improve. Any ways, a few of you know about my situation. Too long to write it now…but I am crossing my fingers for things to get better.

    • T-Rex says:

      Giving you good “vibes” that this will make things better for you! I came into my company on a “created job”. This position has since been eliminated due to budget cuts, but was after I had been already been promoted.

      • boston02127 says:

        T-Rex–I haven’t been ignoring your comments to me. I’m so
        superstitious when it comes to my home teams. I never want to jinx.

        You’re right thou, it’s nice both our teams have come so far.

      • California35 says:


    • NJ Bev says:

      Good Luck, California35!!
      I now how hard you’ve worked and things haven’t
      always turned out the way you’d like them to- but
      someone with your fortitude and positive outlook
      cannot be overlooked forever! you’ve earned your
      dues and I think it’s time for you to be acknowledged
      by your company!
      Good Luck!!

    • Okie Folkie says:

      Cali, Please KNOW you do have a lot of folks out here in cyber-space who care about you!
      I dont know about your situation, but, way yonder back in my ‘Professional’ life I worked for many years in such a toxic office.
      I allowed them to get the better of me. They almost “drove me off the cliff” and gave it their best shot at driving me crazy.
      For me, at that time, I had to leave. I did find a job, working w/Adults w/Developmental disabilities. That was the BEST job I ever had, although it was one of the worst paying jobs I’d ever had. The money wasnt great, but, for me it was about an entire CHANGE in atmosphere. I knew I was making a difference in the lives of these wonderfully unique individuals.

      Good Luck & I’ll be sending good vibes to Cali!! I hope that will help you in some small way, or even better in a BIG WAY!!!

  53. error404 says:

    sorry to be tardy for the party, but with respect to RHNY and the wikipedia page, I don’t believe a word of it.

    1. they are getting a s5. OK, I could see this happening, even if I think it’s stupid.
    2. Alex is not hired for s5. Ok, a little less likely, but possible.
    3. Cindy Barstool, etc… are all still on despite being painfully dull AND OTT bitches. Maybe, nobody ever said @BravoAndy was smart.
    4. Jennifer Gilbert is being hired for s5 as the 7th HW. See, this is where you lose me. NO way Jose IMHO. Even if you buy the idea the she was even considered as a HW at all, which I don’t, that very theory had her 90% edited out because she’s too dull for tv. After snubbing her for all of s4, they are suddenly going to hire her full time for s5?

    OK, please tell me how this is even possible. Alex being replaced by Dull JEn is a reoccurring Jill fantasy at best IMHO. Does anyone have a Bravo link or something or does this just mean that LisaNEwEngland has learned how to edit Wiki.

    • TY says:

      Not buying it until there are better sources. But maybe Alex decides not to return?

      • California35 says:

        I wouldn’t blame her. I hope she writes a book and gets a good job/business thought. Like someone mentioned here before, if she were to write a book about what really went on off cameras…or what Jill put her and Simon throught….it will be very good 🙂

    • Hmm…..the RHONY Wikipedia page has Jill’s grubby little fingerprints written all over it. I believe there will be a season 5 but I don’t believe for a second that Bravo has decided who they are going to bring back yet. Jill has been leaking rumors about Alex’s status on the show for a couple pf years. As for Jenn Gilbert coming back, I have a feeling she wouldn’t come back if they asked her. I follow her on Twitter ans she seemed relieved that she wasn’t in the middle of the drama. She preferred to watch it on TV.

    • jeang says:

      Its possible someone edited wiki, I know I did one time about a year ago on Krazys wiki….btw I have been off lately due to spending nearly all my hours watching the trial in Orlando and then going to the wftv, wesh, and orlando sentinel websites ready the blogs there. Its going to be a long 2 months. Hopefully Caylee gets justice. It is all about that sweet innocent little girl who died too soon and unnessarily.

  54. boston02127 says:

    I’m watching NJ. Caroline just said to poor Lauren “no more safety net of mommy and daddy”. I guess she only wipes her son’s asses. Run Lauren run.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      WOW I thought the same thing – like we bought you this makeup business and we are done!

      • Okie Folkie says:

        That really makes me soooooo MAD at Caroline. re: “No safety net….” and while Lauren is doing her Mom’s make-up, she’s (L) saying how very much she needs her Mom right now. With her new business and with Vito.

        I have to wonder WTF??? Caroline, last week she was a blithering idiot about ‘loosing her BOYs’ as if she doesnt STILL have a precious DAUGHTER who actually has a J.O.B. living right there….under HER roof.
        I was thinking WHY is she (C) pushing Lauren OUT THE DOOR???

        If someone/anyone can enlighten me, I’d greatly appreciate it!

  55. Smompy says:

    I just watched the christening fight again. Even though the interwebs are reporting that Melissa, after appearing on TV for, like, maybe 20 minutes total, is already the most hated housewife in Bravo history, to that network she’s actually a gift from God. The highest ratings and most comments ever from a NJ episode! And I see Melissa as a gift from God too. OK, I still don’t necessarily, you know, LIKE her, but I’m honestly glad she’s on this show. She can get under Tree’s skin more easily than anyone else on the show, and Tree deserves a castmate like that. And Melissa did not start that fight. Period. In fact she did actually try to prevent it. Joe Gorga calling his sister garbage was disgusting, but that didn’t really start the fight either. Teresa was being an asshole for sticking around and keeping the angry exchange going when she’d already been told to “walk away” at least ten times, and when she could clearly see that her brother was about to go off, but she didn’t really start the fight either. Juicy, after adding some choice fightin’ words of his own, literally charged at Melissa and Joe Gorga after the ugly exchange between Tree and her brother was finished, and technically speaking, THAT physical charge was the beginning of the brawl. Joe Gorga reacted and then overreacted to that charge and to Juicy’s continuous threats and taunts…..eg. “You son of a bitches! I’ll kill all of youz!” Melissa. don’t listen to the rest of the world….I’M still glad you’re there. I’m really glad they showed the christening again because the first time I watched it, I was having way too much fun to pay attention to exactly who was saying and doing what to whom and why. I can now say with confidence that in a room full of assholes, Juicy Joe was Asshole Numero Uno.

    I also paid closer attention during one of Teresa’s Talking Heads this time too…the one where she spoke about Kathy. She explained that the reason she stopped liking Kathy, even though Teresa had just admitted that Kathy had been like a “big sister” to her, was that Kathy’s husband used to rib Teresa about how much money she was spending, and Kathy did NOT tell her husband to shut up like she obviously should have. LOL, Teresa is still funny in some ways.

    Now bring on the Moroccan death squads! I wanna see LuAnn’s head on a pike!

    Too much?

    • TY says:

      There’s something sneaky about Melissa I simply cannot stand. But the addition of the Gorgas definitely gives the NJ franchise drama. It’s the table flip franchise. I assume fans of NJ want more of that, not less.

    • error404 says:

      Yeah, remember when Camille was THE most hated housewife for daring to be critical and starting fights with Saint Kyle. Then by season end we all kinda saw enough of Kyle to want to start a few late night restaurant fights with her ourselves. Melissa may not be popular after one episode, but let’s reconvene after the season is over and see where we’re at.

  56. boston02127 says:

    Either Joe & Melissa are really short or they have hugh furniture.

  57. boston02127 says:

    Kelly will do anything to get her name out there. Has anyone ever seen Kelly carry a pocketbook? I never have.


    • Smompy says:

      In the first season I thought I once saw her hiding behind a brown, distressed leather clutch, but I later realized that was just her face.

  58. Arya Stark says:


    Jill bonds with Snakes!

    She finally found “her kind.”

  59. boston02127 says:

    Is RHONY on at 9 or 10? For some reason my TV Guide won’t come up.

  60. WindyCityWondering says:

    Melissa on more watches is really full of herself! And I am not really liking Kathy all that much – she is doing a Kim G kind of thing – double agent.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I don’t feel that way about Kathy. I thought she was trying to facilitate a discussion between Teresa and her brother. Kim G seems like she will do anything to get attention – which means make us as much fake drama as she can.

    • TY says:

      I’m also one of those who don’t think Kathy is as she appears. We’ll see. I just have a negative gut feeling about her.

  61. Megs says:

    I do believe what one of the posters earlier said – Bravo must have gotten comped from the Morroco travel bureau as they try to develop business. My sister was on a cruise recently and her ship could not go into port at Morroco as planned because of terrorist threats. THAT (terrorist threats) have also happened in Paris. So maybe that’s what LuLu meant. I’m just getting anxious to see the Countess get the hump of her life! It seems so paradoxical though that we can talk about RHONYC and then Oprah in almost the same breath. Ying yang life is strange. I’m likely older than most of you but Oprah was my “girlfriend.” In the days when I was home raising my children and losing my mind, I knew that someone was going to show up, talk sense, and share genuine concerns at 4 p.m. With such an enormous audience how was it that she could reach people so personally? Also I wonder, has anyone done more to bridge “black and white folks” in our society. I’m raising a glass of wine to Oprah – and I’d love Ramona and all of you to join me. Clink clink clink clink clink…

  62. HD says:

    Quincy/Lynn, for New Jersey we didn’t have a chat blog. Are we going to have one for NY? I HAVE to talk about Luann as I know she is going to piss me off and I will not be able to contain myself!

    • Nancy says:

      I’ll be here at 7pm. I ALMOST “hate” LuMan as much as I do Shrill. I hate snobs, and pass/agg people. Can’t wait for her boy toy to dump her snotty ass.

    • quincyil says:

      Lynn is finishing it.

      I will check with Lynn to make sure we have chats for the housewife shows.


  63. jeang says:

    clink but I couldnt find Ramonas brand yet in our abc store yesterday. The lady there said it was coming though. Also want to try those new drinks that you freeze and then shake….They are also coming to our local abc store soon. I did pick up 4 skinnygirls anyway, so I am good tonight….I of course will not be watching this crap but depend on this blog so I do not have to and can still be informed.

  64. boston02127 says:

    Just caught the part where Jill opens her robe in the lobby and Luann comments on it. If you look closely you can see an arm with a brown leather coat sleeve holding up the robe also. When the all walk away it’s Luann with the brown leather coat on!

    • Nancy says:

      What Luman doesn’t get is that she is embarrassing herself in front of a lot of people. I sure hope she has kept up her LPN license because she’s going to need it soon. LuMan cleaning a bedpan. That I would like to see. Let’s see how much poise she’ll have WHEN that happens. 🙂

      • boston02127 says:

        It’s killing me that we haven’t seen her new apartment. I saw a little clip of it when she was on the phone and that’s it. It looked really tiny. Also, the lamp looked like it was from Ikea, nothing wrong with Ikea, I luv the store but I didn’t know the count shopped there.

        • housewifeaddict says:

          I saw a video clip where she took us on a tour – some must have posted a link. The lamp was from TJMax. Good call !

        • Nancy says:

          There is a video of LuMan showing her apt. It’s not my cup of tea but it wasn’t horrible either.

        • kotagirl29 says:

          There is a clip of her showing it on Youtube. Here is the link:

  65. Megs says:

    You have GOT to love Sonja – “it’ll be OK. Just have faith. LuAnn has been here for a day.”

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