I Hate Jill Zarin Watch What Happens Live (second posting)

Another hysterical photo caption from Boston02127!  Love it!

I have to thank our regular poster here, Nancy for sending me this email conversation that she had with Ramona Singer:

From Nancy to Ramona:  Hey Ramona, you should read Lynnnchicago 101’s Blog, also called IHJZ blog.  This blog sees right through Jill Zarin.  It’s also a wonderful and supportive bunch of people.  Sometimes Simon posts on this blog and Lynn has interviewed some of the real housewives.  I know she would love to have you post.   Sincerely, Nancy

From Ramona to Nancy:  Too funny I always think Lynn
Is very perceptive in her writing!!!!!!!! 
I admire her so much
Reach out on tuesday to me
Ramona
Have a great weekend
Also I will be in chicago june 15th doining a ramona pinot bottle signing

Thanks for sharing that with us Nancy!  I’m certainly going to have to try to meet Ramona while she’s in Chicago!  

 Watch What Happens Live by LynnNChicago WWHL with Jacqueline and Teresa of The Real Housewives of New Jersey

Last week Jacqueline and Teresa appeared on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen and I wrote the blog on that episode before the After Show was posted so let’s talk a bit about that. Teresa was asked if she’d like to make up with her brother and she said that she’d love to and that she loves him more than anything.  When she says things like, “I love him more than anything” it really seems fake because it is just a catch phrase, I really hope that she loves her children more than she loves her brother.  The fact that she uses “I love him more than anything” makes me believe she doesn’t really mean that. Andy asked both Jacqueline and Teresa about their hair, Jacqueline says she doesn’t use a “bump-it” in her hair she just teases it, Teresa interrupts the question that was for Jac and insists that she just has a lot of hair and that everyone tells her she has such beautiful hair.  Since no one was asking you Teresa, lets just say that we know you’re a hairy mother!  If only you had a forehead. Teresa explained that in order to straighten her hair it takes an hour to blow it straight then it stays that way for a week, unfortunately she added that she can’t wash it or it’ll go curly again.  Teresa doesn’t wash her hair for a week?  How does she take a shower without getting her hair wet?  She must have an amazing hair cap to keep it dry while she showers.   Maybe she takes baths?  I could never go a week without washing my hair, I’d be grossed out.

Andy brought out Jacqueline’s daughter Ashley who is now sporting blonde extensions that she admitted she’d just had for two weeks.  She’s living at home, her room is a mess and her lips are huge!  She’s had a temporary injectible to plump her lips and admitted that her mom paid for it but she didn’t ask first.  Jacqueline said Ashley just came home with the big lips and “what am I supposed to say now?”

I don’t know Jacqueline, how about saying that you’re going to make the spoiled brat pay for it herself?  How about telling her if she does anything like that again, she is out of the house? So many discussions have gone back and forth about Jacqueline’s mothering skills and she’s defended herself telling viewers that she’s grounded Ashley, taken away her car, her phone, etc.  Then we hear that this kid went to a plastic surgeon and had her lips injected at her mother’s expense and Jacqueline just blows it off like it’s nothing, her attitude is, “well it’s done now, nothing I can do”.  Sigh…

Andy forced Ashley to say something nice about her mother, she said she loves her so much and appreciates everything she’s ever done for her.  It could have been a bit more believable if she’d done it without being prompted by Cohen. Teresa was asked why she had Domino’s Pizza at her Halloween party, she claims she didn’t order it but that other kids brought it with them.  Andy asked what the age difference is between her and Melissa – answered 6-years.

Andy forgot to ask this question

Teresa admitted that the “Melissa drama” is much worse than the “Danielle drama” because it’s family.  No surprise there. Andy never asks the tough questions, how about asking Teresa how the Bankruptcy case is going?  How she felt about her husband sitting in jail?  Did she visit the jailbird?  Whether she expects Joe to go back to jail for his latest felony?

WWHL with Ramona Singer and Willie Geist.  

Ramona does have some big eyes! The show was a bit forgettable, Ramona tried to get a few digs into Luann and Jill.  Ramona continues to insist she’s had no plastic surgery. Ramona was asked if she regrets being rude on the trip to Morocco, she denied being rude at all, in fact she explained that Luann offered up the services of the staff to “help” her unpack but that she never required that the staff unpack for her.  The caller who asked the question wouldn’t accept that answer and said that she had drink after drink, just proving that Bravo’s attempts to make Ramona seem like she has a drinking problem is apparently working.

Willie Geist was pretty funny at times, he told Ramona that she was losing friends over the Pinot and should just order a Vodka Tonic now and then, I like his subtle comedy but I’m not sure Ramona got it.

Ramona explained the designer issue that Luann complained about on the show.  There are plenty of designers out there and Ramona was concerned that Luann would be photographed in the same dress as her if they both utilized the same designer.  It makes perfect sense to me particularly when Amazon woman Luann would most likely look better in those dresses, I think I’d do the same if I were Ramona. I adore Ramona when she slams the other women, she is a “get back atcha” kinda gal.  Slam Ramona and she’ll slam ya right back!

Luann tweeted that the fortune-teller was spot on, (perhaps a little dig at Ramona) since Ramona’s reading included another woman, Ramona decided to reveal that Luann and her husband both cheated on each other while they were married.  Seems to me Ramona thought it would be surprising news to viewers but in fact we already knew the deLesseps were both unfaithful to each other.

Ramona was sure to explain to viewers that Jill lied about her home in the Hamptons during the first two seasons, she pretended to still own the home when actually she was renting it from the owners after having sold it.  Jill proudly tells us that she sold at the top of the market but forgets that she failed to reveal it was sold and pretended to still own it.  Ramona also tells us that the yellow Ferari wasn’t a gift from Bobby, it was rented for a week so that she could show it off to viewers.

One Flew Over the Couscous Nest by Quincy IL

Ramona Singer is truthful.  She is also likely to start riots in the Streets of Marrakesh when she visits the third world country. Ramona can’t help it.  She is who she is.  She is not afraid to tell Cindy to stick a hanger up her butt or demand IV pinot grigio upon arrival at a bed and breakfast in the Medina for Brad Boles’ birthday celebration.  Ramona Singer has become the star of “The Real Housewives of New York City.”  For this honor, Ramona should thank Jill Zarin, Luann de Lesseps, Cindy Barshop, Sonja Morgan, and Alex McCord. Each of these women is obsessed with Ramona Singer.

Ramona was the one honest person when the trip was first suggested. She knew that this was an exotic adventure, but with all adventures comes some dangers.  The other women may have had their own concerns off camera, but Ramona was upfront in an interview sharing that Morocco is unfair to women.  If you look at the veiled women in the souk, you know that they play a role in their society that is subordinate to their husbands and male family members.  Ramona is not subordinate.  She is her husband Mario’s equal and she might wear the pants in that family.

Luggagegate was the first point of conflict in the three part series where the women visit Morocco.  Luann failed to do her homework so she could not tell Ramona what to bring in the line of clothing for the four day visit. Ramona emptied her closet into three suitcases and moved to the Middle East. The stress of setting her jewelry line on pedestals for the camera to film was so great that Ramona asked the staff of the riad to help her.  She dominated the unpacking scenes with her animal skinned patterned cocktail dresses and her hip jewelry for belly dancing. 

Sonja might have been worried about the security of the luggage, but Ramona made sure we saw what she brought just as she did with her bikinis on the yacht off Scary Island.  Ramona knows how to get screen time.

Luann and Kelly may have been concerned that Ramona’s clothes were too sexy, but we watched Kelly’s left breast practically fall out of her yellow swim attire when she was talking to Cindy who was trying to contact her babies on the phone.  Cindy’s blue dress was see through.   Alex’s skirts were short.  Sonja didn’t wear underwear and she kept reminding us of that.  Luann showed cleavage when she was shopping for fabrics.  Only Jill was covered the entire time and for that we are all grateful.  Ramona said that she likes to show a little cleavage, but most of the time she was as covered as any of the others.  They all wear sexy clothing. 

The next point of conflict was “Hangergate.”  Cindy went to her room to discover that some of her clothes had fallen to the floor and hangers were missing from her closet.  Who had a hanger in her hand at the time?  Ramona did.  Thus, begins a skirmish which results in the use of the word “hanger” 36 times.  Although I suspect the house maid had a hand in the missing hangers from Cindy’ s closet, Cindy was sure that one of the blonds had gone into her room and violated her privacy while stealing hangers from her closet. Ramona confronted her and talked loudly behind Cindy back resulting in a second confrontation.  Cindy informed Luann so Ramona starred in the scene where Luann brought more hangers.  There were moments of Mommy Dearest and Joan Crawford when Ramona suggested what Cindy could do with a hanger. Alex and Sonja were very careful to be seen, but not heard during most of “Hangergate.” You don’t want to throw yourself into a volcano if you suspect that you might not be a virgin.

At TV Awards - The Blondes

Shades of the Hooters’ Yacht came to our minds when Sonja and Ramona jumped ship rather than eat a lunch with Jill, Luann, Kelly and Cindy.  It was not surprising that they went to a luxury hotel for fun in the sun and a search for companionship rather than be near the pool making conversation with people who have been bitching about them for weeks on film, behind their backs and to their faces.

Sonja was also a subject of gossip when the brunettes chowed down near the pool.  After roasting Ramona’s wardrobe, the PR nightmare known as Kelly Killoren Bensimon, said that Sonja was living a lie.  Kelly Sonja and Ramona never get their nails done.  She said that Sonja prides herself on doing her own hair and makeup.  She then proceeded to tell us that Sonja’s house is dirty, disorganized and smelly.  Kelly said that is hasn’t been redecorated since the 1900’s.  Luann tried to save the reputation of Sonja as a sophisticated woman, but Kelly put a nail in the coffin.  Jill chimed in that it was true.  Luann tried to say it was unfair, but the genie was out of the bottle.
When Luann had a famous Moroccan designer come to measure the women, Ramona alone took the stage and started directing.  She designed the dress, measured herself and almost got the designer to fuel the fire in the riad.  Alex actually put the logs on the fire, but Ramona’s side kick Sonja played the part of Sheherrazad sharing tales of her past life.
Alex reacted to Ramona and Sonja as often as the brunettes in the first of the three episodes.  She never called them “ugly Americans” like Jill Zarin did, but she was shocked that they were willing to embarrass the driver and designer so she gave her honest opinions in interviews.

Kelly is seeking revenge on the blonds because of Scary Island.  Kelly has used interviews this entire season to complain about the women who discussed her break down in the third season reunion and later in the press.  Vengeance is sweet. Kelly knows how to dish it out. BTW, the Scary Island jelly beans are back, but Kelly is not drinking alcohol this time. We see her being very careful to stab people in the backs, but not confront them when they can fight back. 

The brunettes happened to be in a fabric shop filming when Brad Boles stopped by to invite them to his birthday party and to discuss the star of this show, Ramona Singer. Apparently, Ramona committed the ultimate sin and did not properly greet Brad at a very large party last summer.  For this slight, Ramona would slip on his newly waxed floors and be bitten by a very large and poisonous snake.  If that failed to kill her, Brad had hired a veiled French speaking fortune teller who would destroy Ramona with the revelation that there was another woman in her husband’s life. 

It was telling that the brunettes received good news about their futures and compliments while the blonds were exposed for their financial problems and marital concerns.  The veiled fortune teller must have been a waitress at the lunch by the pool of the riad where she listened to the brunettes’ gossip.  Perhaps, Brad shared with a certain mousy brunette with a little gray. Either way, Sonja and Ramona end up in tears.  Brad should be happy.  I’m sure Jill enjoyed the show. Luann was not afraid to translate, but Kelly ran for the hills.  

Everyone is the small kitchen with the tarot card reader was projecting their feelings.  Only Ramona kept her cool.  She thought the other woman was her daughter.  Sonja feelings of abandonment will be shared next week. 

RHONY Brunettes

Jill is going to have to try harder because Ramona is a formidable opponent and her star is rising after every wave of attacks launched by Team Jill. BTW, did Jill Zarin come back from Australia yet?  She is almost invisible in this episode.

Nice work Quincy, as always I love your insight!  Lynn~

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Until Next Time…

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150 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Watch What Happens Live (second posting)

  1. quincyil says:

    You can continue to post on the previous page, but I thought it was taking an unusual time to load I noticed that some comments weren’t going where people intended. That happens once in a while with word press.

    Q

  2. Arya Stark says:

    Well, I think I will repost this link of the dresses here. Hope that’s OK.

    I posted a bunch of links on the other blog, hope that wasn’t what messed things up! (There are some GOOD ones though.)

    The dresses the “fabulous” designer made. Could they have made Ramona look more dumpy if they tried? I don’t think a great grandmother would even wear that at home, let alone “out.” Alex’s looks like she is about to go into battle with a sword. Sonja’s has no shape to it at all. The brunettes all get waistlines at least, but seriously? Will they ever wear these dresses again?

    Cue “ugly American” Ramona storyline because she doesn’t like her dress. Bets?

    http://crabbygolightly.com/mt/2011/05/ugly_americans_a_real_housewiv.html

    • MAMAZ says:

      The only pretty one was LuMans. Go figure.

      • Arya Stark says:

        Yup. Kelly’s looks like it might be OK too, hard to tell in that photo.

        I think the most obvious difference is Jill and Ramona’s. Same color, but one is fitted and figure flattering (if ugly) and one is a droopy, bulky sack. Deliberate? Yeah, I think so.

        At least horseface Cindy got a waistline.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Lumann’s is definitely the only one that is figure-flattering.

    • Kats2 says:

      fancy pajamas

      • ihearttalavera says:

        I was thinking the same thing – fancy bath robes. Lumann’s is a full length necklace, but at least it’s cinched in at the waste.

      • HD says:

        I finally sat through the entire episode today. I like Ramona but she needs to take it down a notch. She was really overdoing it when the designer came in about the dresses. Whatever he made, I am sure it was free, just take it and shutup. You never even have to wear it if you don’t do. Having said that, all of those women look like they are going to some renaissance festival and I wouldn’t wear any of those dresses.

      • ForReality? says:

        lol exactly! I am now looking up traditional Moroccan dresses online and they all blow these out of the water.

        • Arya Stark says:

          Green is normally flattering for redheads like Jill. For us blonds? Yeah, brings out greenish tints in the hair, and usually, especially that color of green? Doesn’t work at ALL.

      • dsc60 says:

        ugly fancy pajamas. i thought a few of them were okay but on further inspection, nah, not so much.

    • kotagirl29 says:

      It is funny how the brunette’s seem to be much more flattering to the figure, hell more flattering period. It sure does seem like another set-up to me.

      • Arya Stark says:

        Tiny little Ramona, who has a fabulous and toned body especially for someone who is over 50? Looks like she’s 7 months pregnant in hers.

    • FLG says:

      I really can’t tell much about Jillzy’s dress. She has a shawl on. But I can see the look on her face and Countess has her lee press on smile glued to her face while Sonja looks she wants to wrap a hanger around Jillzy for some reason.

      • kit9 says:

        I don’t think all the criticism of Ramona with the designer is fair. Luann says, after she introduces him, that he would do ‘whatever you want’. So, then Ramona is specific about what she wanted and that’s a bad thing, she’s being ungrateful, etc. If so, then Luann shouldn’t have said that.

  3. George says:

    Very good post and I’ll also would go see Ramona when she comes to Chicago. Jill Zarin needs to get slapped

  4. FLG says:

    A little OT—If Brad Pitt and family had just vacated the riad, I’ll bet ALL of the staff were totally exhaused (they do have plenty of kids, six I think) and who shows up next? The RHONY. I’m surprised the entire staff of the riad didn’t just quit on the spot when the first batch of brunettes showed up. What’s the first thing the staff hears? Daaahling in Arabic. The staff had to know it was going downhill from there!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Absolutely. This is the exact reason why I try to tip very well. I could never work with the public. How exhausting.

      • FLG says:

        I sure hope the staff is not expecting much in the way of tips out of this group. The gratuities had better be automatically included in the final bill or they are all SOL.

        • Arya Stark says:

          It’s a filming date. Bravo is picking up the tab. Hopefully they will tip.

          That said, I would bet that a couple of the housewives would tip anyway.

          Sadly, I don’t think we are going to see much of Morocco. One of the links I posted on the last blog is about a tour guide that Bravo rejected. Worth a read.

          Instead? We will get the camels, and then probably more confined interior shots. Cheaper and easier for the Bravo crew, and FAR more boring for us.

          • FLG says:

            Thank you! I missed a few of your links. Will take a look! Thank you again!

          • FLG says:

            “Tod concluded: The housewives of New York viewed the city as though it were a Disney Theme park and the Moroccan people, mere props to better bring attention to themselves. As Thi commented candidly in the interview: “These women are on reality TV to build on the celebrity status they have already attained in New York.”

            Kind of like some of them have treated their gay friends. Hey Brad, how does it feel under that bus?

  5. ForReality? says:

    Arya Stark, thanks for all those links. That Morgan mansion on the island was gorgeous. I can see why Sonja would find it difficult to adjust to normalcy.

    & Boo, the dresses are a disappointment. I was looking forward to them, too

    • Arya Stark says:

      Seriously! And if she still had that and the yacht and all the rest? Kelly, Cindy, the Countless, and Jill would be licking her butt.

  6. Kats2 says:

    So did Joe Giudice give up or had to give up the construction biz?
    Just pizza now?

  7. FlowerPower says:

    I’m bringing this over from the last page:

    Quick thank you for all the positive vibes/good wishes/prayers for our little one. It can be stressful on her (she’s only two), but she handles it all really well. Since she has a chronic condition we just hope for the best. She’s doing really well (next surgery is in July).

    Shocked at how busy the board got today! (Love it and ROFLMAO.) Was trying to find good video of Morocco online. I really want to see more of the country (and less of the countess). Rick Steves had one video on Hulu about Tangier. I don’t travel (unless watching The Amazing Race counts… No?) but I would love to see these places.

    • Nancy says:

      So glad she is doing fine. I find it hard working on a sick child. I hope her doc’s & nurses were kind to her. 🙂

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Thanks for the update Flower.

    • Furalis says:

      Hey Flower I didn’t get to read the original e-mail you’re two year old is having surgery? Wow. Glad everything went well. She has another in July? This must be taking a toll. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

  8. jeepers1941 says:

    I brought this over from the other side:

    jeepers1941 says:
    May 29, 2011 at 6:29 pm
    For the life of me, why doesn’t BRAVO just put them in a boxing ring and let them have at one another. I am so disgusted with all this BS, if I was put in this type of situation, I would tell BRAVO to stick it up their ass. My God, how much more crap can they come up with. The sad part about it is, I keep coming back, and that really pisses me off to no end. I will be so glad when this show is over and done with. I am sure I will not have withdrawls from it like I am with Bethenny’s show. I mean I have even got to the point I am not liking any of them, well except for Alex, but even Ramona is starting to wear on me too. Sonja is just Sonja and she is hurting from all her problems since her divorce. She just can’t seem to start anew. I was married to a wealthy man for 15yrs and when it was over, I learned to live within my means. You can get by with less and have much more, believe me. I’d like to see her go from 150K a yr to 13K and love every minute of it…………….

    Reply
    ihearttalavera says:
    May 29, 2011 at 6:33 pm
    “The sad part about it is, I keep coming back, and that really pisses me off to no end. I will be so glad when this show is over and done with.”

    Jeepers, I’m right there with you. I’m counting the days until Bravo sets me free.

    Reply
    jeepers1941 says:
    May 29, 2011 at 6:36 pm
    HERE HERE

    Reply
    jeepers1941 says:
    May 29, 2011 at 6:43 pm
    I have 4 addictions, smoking, food, gambling and these stupid HW franchises, all of which are annoying and disgusting things, but by God I sware, if I ever get hooked on any more of these damn shows, someone should just shoot me and put me out of my misery(sp)? What a dumbass I am for watching this shit……….. 😀

    • HD says:

      @ Jeepers-I am sooooooo with you! Part of me wishes my dumb a$$ never started watching OC then I wouldn’t be in this deep! I am really trying not to watch anymore of these dumb shows! I know I will get sucked in watching something. Please get me intervention! I NEED IT!

      • ihearttalavera says:

        OC was the gateway drug! I have four episodes of Mob Wives on my dvr and I’m like a crack addict trying not to light up the pipe. I don’t watch yet, but I know once I do it’s over for me.

      • jeepers1941 says:

        HD, it is the shits ain’t it, and I hate bravo and andy cohen besides hating jz

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Hahahaha. Poor Jeepers. Sadly, this is my only addiction! And it’s bad enough that I watch it, but then I come here because I have to complain about it endlessly. I’m surprised my family hasn’t had me taken away in a straight jacket yet.

      Funny story – My husband spent a year in Afghanistan. I went to visit a friend in Washington state who had a friend who is also addicted to RHW. My friend (wisely) does not watch reality tv, so she pretty much sat back while her other friend and I proceeded to spend the entire evening doing tequila shots and talking about these horrible women. I was in heaven. At the end he said, “You seem so normal. I’m sure you’re just watching this because you’re husband is gone and you’re bored, right?” My friend and I just laughed and laughed because we both know that I have been addicted to reality tv for years. I had to tell him, “No. I’m just really pathetic. I will be watching it after my husband comes home and until it ends.” Sigh. So sad…

      • jeepers1941 says:

        Now that is funny. I had to have the maintance man here a week or so ago, and he got the low down on Bethenny from me. He said is this really on TV? OMG, that poor man, I must apologize to him that next time I see him……. 🙂 oh dear

  9. HD says:

    Love, love, love the picture with Lynn and Bethanny and the Skinnygirl bus! TOO FUNNY!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I was so impressed with how MM made it look like B and L have their arms around each other, I didn’t notice the Skinny Girl bus until someone pointed it out. Priceless.

  10. Arya Stark says:

    BTW, I read somewhere that Brad’s actual does have a house in Morocco, but it’s about 10 hours from where the housewives are. I can’t find the link, but his house is in Tangiers I think.

  11. Nancy says:

    Warning…Eat before you read any further.

    I just had the “pleasure” of seeing KooKoo in yet again another bathing suit. 😦
    So much for my evening of eating out. Anyway…Kelly has some nerve telling Sonia she needs to cover up her “Lady parts”. I just saw a picture of Kelly and her labia.
    And it wasn’t a normal labia. Her’s looks like it is sutured to her upper thigh. A vision that will stay with me for a very very long time.
    Enough said. Have a great evening everyone. I wish I could say the same thing to myself.

    • Kats2 says:

      Um I need a link for this one. Do you have one to share, I will have the bleach ready for my eyes.

  12. jeepers1941 says:

    BTW, do you think we could get MM to do a design of a pic with jz’s face and IHJZ on the top? Then we could get a pic of it and put it on a t-shirt of our own?

  13. jeepers1941 says:

    DON’T NKNOW IF THIS WILL WORK:

    Check out this custom shirt! http://t.co/m650XX2

  14. jeepers1941 says:

    YAHOO, IT DID WORK, gee I learned something new today, so it is not a totally wasted day after all….. 🙂

  15. val says:

    Is Orange county a repeat tonight? When is the finale? I was getting ready to DVR it and I can’t find it.

  16. Arya Stark says:

    http://www.ifa.de/en/exhibitions/dt/past-exhibitions/2005/2004/arabian-worlds/mohamed-lakhdar/

    Here is the designer, but the direct link to his website sets off my security alarms, so I won’t link to that, although I would REALLY like to see his other clothes.

    • error404 says:

      what was the name of the designer than Bethanny MCed a show for, was it s2 or s3… must have been s2. She had Lulu help her with her walk.

  17. Arya Stark says:

    This is a post from TWOP, but it looks like the poster really paid attention. I think they are responding to all the pro-brunette comments over there, but I am just bringing it over because of the “timing” and “editing” issues it addresses. Anyone else notice these things?

    I just rewatched the episode on DVR and Ramona was not randomly grabbing outfits. And Sonja and she did dance, using necklaces as belts, but the staff woman was nowhere near them. It seems as though she had left by that point; perhaps to get more hangers.

    Also, as has been pointed out, they were in the same van from airport to riad. I hadn’t noticed a limo, but accepted that as something I missed. But, no. The drive with the blondes did seem to take longer, but that’s because Bravo aired more of their trip. Yes, they said what they said; one wonders what comments Jill, Cindy, and Kelly made in their van trip that Bravo chose not to show. Innocuous? I think Bravo picks a story and chooses footage to support it.

    Case in point: “The Blondes Skip Lunch” … only while Ramona, Sonja, and Alex are unpacking, the other women are EATING. Their plates are removed, so are the extras laid out for R,S, & A. THEN Cindy excuses herself and goes up to carryout MISSION HANGERGATE. She comes back, Luann goes up and comes back, more snarking … then after commercial Ramona and Sonja are leaving instead of having lunch and speak to Luann. Luann goes out to the patio — where everyone eats again. So — there — some Bravo less than clever editing. Ramona and Sonja had left already before they ate — which plays into why they were so bitchy, at least. And where did Cindy go? Certainly not up to ask about hangers … Bravo showed Kelly and Luann talking to Ramona and Sonja as they unpacked. It’s just a mish-mash that only make narrative sense, but is impossible to suss out for true reality.

    Also: “Brad’s House in Marrakesh” … Brad shows up at the store, so “surprised” to see Jill. But he’s mic’d and can certainly see the cameras. Jill says in that store to someone “Brad has a house in Morocco, not here, but in the country” … so she knows he has no home in Marrakesh. Was she asked to fake her upset in the Talking Head? It’s so damn fake. The fortune teller was the least of it.

    Jill gets her reading on a lovely velvet couch. Everyone else gets read in the kitchen at a table. Kelly insists it’s her turn … as in “the last woman you read is the one who you say “autra femme” to!” Suspicious, yes.

    Finally, “Throw a Log on the Fire, Darling” — the designer wasn’t even there. Bravo inserted a shot of him from the earlier scene. The clues? Luann is gone — she would not leave before her designer was done, impossible to believe. Kelly, Jill, and Cindy were gone. Ditto. It was in a different room than the room where the designer was introduced. Ramona and Sonja were drinking and relaxing in front of the fire. Ramona and Sonja actually wondered where the servants were, expecting one of them to put a log on the fire and Alex said “I know where the firewood is; I’ll get it” … now if the firewood was piled by the fireplace, I’m betting Sonja would have gotten one and tossed it on. But if it’s not obvious where it is, you RING FOR SERVICE. They ditzily asked “where’s the bell?” and got into a discussion about how they ask for help in other places, their homes, etc. And Alex went and got a log. So … no designer, no insult, all Bravo’s manipulation. I wonder if Ramona even said “Albert” at that moment. Earlier in the season Jill got all upset because they inserted audio of her from another moment over footage making it seem that she’d said something at that moment that she hadn’t. Bravo could be doing it again. But then there’s Alex’ talking head where she says “would you ask Marc Jacobs to throw a log on the fire? I wouldn’t!” … I can posit a Bravo producer telling Alex that Ramona may have wanted the designer to throw a log on the fire and Alex could have answered a hypothetical … because the designer was not in the room during the log on the fire discussion.

    So yeah, Bravo made the blondes look worse than they were — and they were raucous and having a good old American time. No, they didn’t adjust their attitudes because of where they were. In church, I’d expect them to behave. In another country, but more, in a private rented residence, no. Just because the cameras are there, it doesn’t mean they’re in front of the whole country acting that way. Does RHONY air in Morocco? One wonders.

    • error404 says:

      a lot of good points.

    • dsc60 says:

      i certainly do agree with you that Bravo manipulates scenes, and not just by messing with the time line. i’ll have to pay more attention to the firewood scene. both ramona and sonja mention it in their blogs stating that they didn’t think it was a big deal to ask the designer to throw the log on. but you’re also correct that the questions asked during their talking heads may be misleading. i just hate to give credence to jill’s complaining about her edit. so just to be clear, there are certain instances, such as statements that are made, that no matter how it is edited, the wives HAVE to own their bad behavior. there’s no doubt about certain things. such as there’s no doubt that i hate jill, luann, kelly AND cindy because they are all vile, nasty people… with or without clever editing.

    • glammedupthug says:

      Very perceptive. Good eyes! I miss so many details and am glad to read details from my keen-eyed fellow bloggers. I’d watch the show more than once, but my stomach couldn’t take it!

  18. Adgirl says:

    How is everyone’s weekend so far??
    Waayyy OT – I have been “enjoying” a forced march this weekend. I adore walking around cities (parks not so much) but this weekend has seriously kicked my butt. Yesterday we walk 15 miles in San Francisco. We were fortunate enough to locate my grandparent’ss home from the WWII era which is now in a nearly inaccessble area of the city (new roads and freeways cut it off from the rest of the neighborhood). It was very interesting for sure. We took lots of pictures for my mom.
    Today we walked (and walked) until my poor legs nearly buckled. I recovered in time to shop at Macy’s weekend shoe sale. LOL.

    Our poor old lady dog Spank.y is recovering from a heart attack. She was in UC Davis on life support for several days. Happily she is home and doing better. My husband was a huge mess about her. I’m glad he has a 2nd chance to spoil her in her old age. We felt terrible that we didn;t understand the signs – extra panting. She is an American bulldog. They pant, snort, snore and drool alot. What’s a little more? She was dying Bn our livingroom and we didn’t recognize it.here because we all adore our pets. if you have an older pet that changes a bit – check it out.

    Looking forward to the next OC. I think it’s on tonight- not WWHL.

    I hate Luann & Jill Zarin.

    • Nancy says:

      Adgirl,
      I’m so sorry to hear about your dog. Davis is the best Vet care you can get.
      How old is he? My Emily is 17 now and I worry about her heart.
      Glad you had fun in SF. Give Spanky a hug from me. I’ll keep him in my prayers.

    • Nancy says:

      Adgirl,
      How is he doing? Davis is known as one of the best Vet hospitals.
      My little pug (who’s 17) pant’s all the time. I can’t believe he lived through this.
      My cat went through chemo a while back and it cost us a fortune.
      I would love to help you with the bill from Davis.
      I’ll ask Lynn how we can do this.
      I’m glad you had fun in San Fran. Give Spanky a hug from me. 🙂

    • Nancy says:

      Adgirl,
      So sorry to hear about Spanky. My little Pug pants all the time. (she’s 17)
      Great thing you got him to Davis in time. (Davis is the best!)
      My Uncle is a Vet in Canada and he loves Davis.
      I would love to help you with the bill.
      I’ll e-mail Lynn and ask for her help with the details.
      Glad you had fun in San Fran. Give Spanky a hug from me.
      I don’t even want to think about life without my little Emily
      so I know how you feel. Again I’m so glad is is doing fine. 🙂

    • dsc60 says:

      awww, glad to hear Spanky is home and doing good. i had an English Bulldog years ago so i know exactly what you mean about the snorting, snoring and drooling. he was the sweetest guy though. i’d love to have another, but they are very high maintenance and i just couldn’t handle it now. hope Spanky’s has a quick recovery.

    • dsc60 says:

      okay, i tried to post but it didn’t show up so i hope this isn’t a double post. just wanted to say that i’m happy spanky is home and doing good. i had an English Bulldog years ago, so i know exactly what you mean by the snorting, snoring and drooling. he was the sweetest guy though. i’d love to have another but they are very high maintenance and i couldn’t handle it at this point. anyway, i hope spanky as a quick a thorough recovery.

    • Sparkles says:

      Thanks for the tip and so glad that your Spanky is recovering!

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Adgirl,

      What an amazing weekend. Sounds like all of the walking was worth definitely worth it, and I’m glad to hear Spanky is okay. I thank you, again, for sharing the signs as I have an old guy at home with me.

      Your ending, “I hate Luann and Jill Zarin” made me laugh. Just in case we forgot, right?

  19. Nancy says:

    Error,
    This is my take on your last post. I agree with you 100%. Good work Bravo! You must be so proud of yourself.
    ASSUMING there are no abusable stimulant drugs (e.g. coke, meth) involved, her most likely diagnosis is bipolar affective disease, manic, with psychotic features. This means she’s manic & has lost contact with reality. (like on Scary Island) Amphetamine or cocaine psychosis could mimic this, however.
    I have little doubt that she has been put on antipsychotic med’s that seem to be working.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Nancy. Let’s go with the theory that she was a drug addict and agreed to get help so Bravo let her back on the show. What would account for her symptoms now – the vacant looks, Cheshire grin at silly little things ….

      • Nancy says:

        Antipsychotic med’s have lot’s of side effects.
        She seems tired, swollen, flat affect. These are some of the side effects.

    • error404 says:

      With so many loud and obnoxious people willing to go on tv, why does Bravo need to hire mentally unstable ones? Really, Nene, Teressa, Kyle and Camille… there are plenty of attention hungry women willing to act a little nutty for tv, so why does Andy need to hire Kiki and Michaela? Serious crazy isn’t really “entertaining”.

  20. Kats2 says:

    Nancy – where is the picture of crazy you mention above?

  21. wendy says:

    I can’t handle the admiration of Ramona. I find her the most offensive of everyone. I can’t handle watching her. I can’t imagine being able to handle being around her. If people are going to make excuses for her and say “she is who she is” then you should be able to say that about every housewife. Ramona is rude and obnoxious. I truly detest her. I don’t understand how someone that crazy and unhinged can be so successful. She is a total whack job. Honestly though I can’t stand any of the housewives. I don’t know why I watch all of the shows since none of the women are likable. I guess it is just fascinating to me that people like this exist.

    Anyway, I really enjoy this blog, but I don’t enjoy acting like Ramona is any better than the rest of them. They’re all crazy.

    • quincyil says:

      I wrote the blog and I agree with you. LOL. She is loud and obnoxious. She is also the center of the show right now because every conflict features Ramona.

    • Kats2 says:

      As long as Ramona keeps being mean to the HW’s I don’t like (Jill, Lulu and Kelly) I can live with her.

      • Kats2 says:

        Oh and add new girl to the list too. This is why I love Ramona.

        • FLG says:

          She is getting to plug her pinot a lot! She’s doing a much better job than Jill did with “it’s in the book”.

        • MsJxn says:

          Sorry, but the enemy of my enemy….and I think she is fun, likable,..a little off beat,..which I love,…I hate predictable….,Like..successful,..fun!! lighthearted,..funny,…and she does not hide behind any situation,…..she will not be a victim,…again……..she is creative and actually has a personality,..is original,…….hum,,…She is one of the light hearted fun gals who I would love to hang with,..unlike the unpopular in school Debbie Downer,.’s , uncreative,..I take myself so seriously,..because I have no sense of humor,..and LISTEN TO ME LISTEN TO ME,..because no one does,…because you are not interesting or relevent in any way , Seriously,..Darlinnnnnngg,,….we must shop,…and after lunch,…You must follow my schedule,…HAHAHAHAH!! Sorry,..I’ll be at the bar in the 5 star resort,..and WTF do I care what you think,..because I’m not insecure and have to demean/guilt you into, actually scare you into a relationship with me,..because I make you soooooo scared I’ll ruin your reputation,…LOL,..Countless carries Sonja Morgans water,…and she knows that shit,..and that’s why Sonja has nothing to prove when it comes to discount,…who used to think she was all that,….until a Morgan showed up….and I know she is not exaggerating about hosting, traveling/and she can act funny,..and she is seriously doing that,…and you have to be there to appreciate it,..by there,..I mean in an okay place in your own life. Sorry if it seems rambling,..just this show makes my head curaazy,…oh yeah,.Jill you WERE NOT popular in school,..still aren’t,…..so,..I guess that forced trip and playing the drums,…LOL!! you make the debate team look cool!!!!

    • Adgirl says:

      I like Ramona. She is rude and obnoxious. So are most of the RH. I would say even Alex can be that way (see Sonja’s house after the march). I can enjoy Ramona because she doesn’t purposely reach out to hurt people. To my knowledge she hasn’t started a rumor about someone’s marriage or sobriety. She hasn’t spent 4 years scolding people on manners while breaking every rule she so proudly espouses.
      Is Ramona is jerk at times? Yep.
      But I’d rather spend time with a jerk who feels bad when she goes too far (like she did with Bethenny) thans someone who pretends to be your friend while cutting you to pieces behind your back.

      • FLG says:

        I agree. I’d rather be stabbed in the stomach than in the back. At least you get to see the knife coming your way.

      • Nancy says:

        Adgirl,
        How is you baby doing? Isn’t Davis great?
        I’d love to help you with the bill as I know the cost can be out of this world. We just spent $18,000 on our cat. But thats what we do for our love ones. Maybe you can send Lynn your address
        and I can send her the check to forward.

        • Adgirl says:

          Nancy! Thanks for asking. Spanky is doing great. Whens she was ill she didn’t eat for 2 weeks. Now she can’t stop porking out. My hubby cooks for her. LOL. She is better but there isn’t a longer life expectantcy – 4 to 6 mos is all. We spent $5K but she is our baby. My hubby has no kids so he is specially affected by the though of losing her.

          • Nancy says:

            Adgirl,
            I swear I’m not going KooKoo on you. I tried 4 times last night to post a reply to you. They all now seem like they are going through.
            I wish the Vet had better news for you. Pets just don’t live long enough. I’ll keep him in my prayers.

        • Adgirl says:

          OMG Nancy that is supersweet! Thank you for the offer but we are OK. She is worth every penny! I still can’t believe there are canine cardiologists.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Well said.

      • Getagrip says:

        I think Ramona, like Bethenny, doesn’t go after people first, but doesn’t hesitate when attacked. They’ll both put you in your place in a millisecond; Bethenny is Queen of Sarcasm and I love it! Sometimes she thinks she’s being helpful, but it comes across as being an a$$.

  22. Nancy says:

    Adgirl,
    For some reason I can’t post a reply from your post. (I tried 3 times)
    I hope you see this. I’m so happy you got Spanky to Davis in time.
    My Emily is 17 and pants all the time. Scary. Davis is the best. My Uncle is a Vet in Canada and uses them a lot for consultations.
    I would love to help you with the bill. I can ask Lynn how.
    Glad you had fun in San Fran. Give Spanky a hug from me.

  23. lillybee says:

    If I remember Bethenny hosted and modeled in a Moroccan fashion show. The clothes were wonderful, so much better than what the women got this week.

  24. Nancy says:

    Adgirl,
    I’m so glad he’s doing ok. Davis is a great Hospital.
    I’d like to help you with the bill. I can ask Lynn how to do this.
    My little pug is 17 and pant’s all the time. Scary, eh?
    I’ll keep Spanky in my prayers.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      You are so sweet Nancy.

      This is one of the reasons that dispite what Jill Zarin and her girl scout troop err Gingerettes might say, this is not a ‘hate blog’, It’s a group of successful, happy, intelligent and kind hearted people who are eager and willing to help each other, we all just happen to think Jill Zarin should suck it.

  25. Stella says:

    My friend sent me this e-mail today. I’m only 29 and I could use some of these. You guys might have seen these somewhere before but enjoy:

    MIDDLE AGE TEXTING CODES:
    ATD -at the doctor. BFF -best friend fell. BTW -bring the wheelchair. BYOT -bring your own teeth. FWIW -forgot where I was. GGPBL -gotta go, pacemaker battery low. GHA -got heartburn again. IMHO -is my hearing aid on? LMDO -laughing my dentures out. OMMR -on my massage recliner. ROFLACGU -rolling on floor laughing and can’t get up. TTYL -talk to you louder!

    • klmh says:

      Love those Stella. Tx

    • FLG says:

      ROFLACGU!!!

    • Nancy says:

      Stella,
      Thanks a lot! I have a pacemaker and it IS running low on power.
      Too funny!

      • Stella says:

        My best friend at work has one too. I was going to share this with him. He and I banter back and forth and tease each other a lot and so when he got his pacemaker I started calling him Sparky. He did find it funny thank goodness cause I didn’t want to offend him but wanted to have a little fun and keep our tradition going.

        • Nancy says:

          My 1st one was implanted when I was only 38.
          Pacemakers have come a long way. Thank God.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            Yes, thank God. My coworker just had a heart attack and now has to have a pace maker also.

            Nancy, your offer to Adgirl was so thoughtful. You are an amazing lady.

            Hope your cat is doing better now.

    • Furalis says:

      those are great and will be used eventually.

  26. FLG says:

    Here is a link to Jacques wine distribution company. In the extreme left bottom photo, someone is pouring LuAnn a nice glass of Cabernet. http://www.gabriellawines.com/about-us.html?phpMyAdmin=52a5r8MsRo8Ze5dzfKQr1HRJwM4

  27. Arya Stark says:

    Simon just tweeted that we should comment on Alex’s BRAVO blog.

    I am beginning to think we should start tweeting ALL of the housewives that we are trying to comment but BRAVO isn’t publishing comments on NY, although they are on NJ.

    Instead of tweeting BRAVO or Andy (pointless) why not just tweet the wives asking “why?” If they get enough of them, maybe we will either get an answer OR they will bug Bravo to start printing them. As it is afterall, they end up looking like the least popular show. The other show wives get tons of comments? Each of them? A mere handful. Not good for their “Q” rating.

    Good idea?

    • FLG says:

      I would love it if Bravo would post our comments. I suspect the brunettes and the red head wouldn’t.

    • Furalis says:

      I will post a comment for Alex but I don’t see the point. WE all know they don’t post the posts – that is why this blog was created. I don’t even read their blogs any more I just come here and read the high lights and everyone’s response. Bravo is well aware of this blog and knows we all come here.

      So why even bother? If Bravo wants an opinion they should come here. So many people have sent e-mails and letters and they don’t care.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Exactly, every time I try to post Bravo it feels like I am spinning my wheels.

  28. housewifeaddict says:

    Just watched this little gem on Bravo exclusives:

    http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-4/videos/the-wives-rip-their-clothes

    And I realized what I really really really dislike about LuLu is that she makes all of the brunettes as dull as her with her cluck cluck clucking. Dang it – no one can do anything that she doesn’t approve of – and her idea of fun is a fancy dinner party at the villa – rather than go out on the town. PAINT DRYING boring.

  29. nathania says:

    cough cough…

    from the tour guide article:
    ~Later, when Tod called about the time he was to meet the NY Housewives, Thi said; “Now we don’t need you as a guide. We decided that a man on our staff poising as a guide would work just as well.”~

    Soooooooooooooo…I can imagine when the fortune teller called about the time she was to meet the NY Housewives, the producer said “Now we don’t need you as a psychic. We decided that a woman on our staff poising as a fortune teller would work just as well.”

    • sue says:

      We came to the conclusion that “The (paid-off) fortune teller” was really “head tapping” Sonja, and the other women is Kelly, because she is seeing Brian (Sonja’s artsy boyfriend). We don’t find this hard to imagine, since Jill and Kelly are always trying to copy someone. Even their trip had the Sex and the City vibe!

  30. Smompy says:

    What I find so bizarre about the whole Moroccan psychic thing is the surprisingly large number of people who seem to think what she said matters. I’m not talking about people here necessarily, but I’ve read a lot of comments on various sites, and many, MANY people across the net are clearly willing to believe that this person Bravo hired as a “psychic” actually 1) has psychic abilities and 2) by simply uttering the words “another woman” she clearly proved that Ramona’s husband is cheating on her. I keep seeing comments like “Aha, I figured that Mario had a mistress and now I KNOW for sure!” And then I’m all, “WTF is WRONG with you people??? This is Bravo we’re talking about!!! And this person is supposedly a PSYCHIC!!! A “psychic” who Bravo hired! And this chick saying two words in French at a B&B in Marrakesh surrounded by TV cameras and TV yentas is proof enough for you that Mario Singer has a mistress??? Jeesh, if I’m ever charged with a crime, I hope to God you’re not a member of my jury!”

    Of course I don’t actually express that opinion directly toward those gullible folks. There’d be no point really. Instead I just shake my head and bitterly mutter it to myself:)

    • sue says:

      Excuse me! We were not saying we BELIEVED any of it, we were saying that Bravo will/has gone this far with these ridiculous “set-ups”!

      • ForReality? says:

        I think she was talking about the people who buy into the setups and take what the psychic said as fact. The whole thing seemed to be for show. Some people either can’t see through it or don’t want to.

    • Sparkles says:

      My view is that even if the psychic wasn’t a set-up, it doesn’t mean she truly had abilities. As I said on an earlier thread, the points she made to all the women were very generic (“you have a big heart” and “you will have three children”). Anyone can make that stuff up (“there is a man with dark hair who cares about you”). All this proves to me is that people will believe what they want to believe.

      I think that the reason Ramoner was crying on her bed in the previews is that “the girls” believe the psychic. Ramoner called Mario, who told her that the “other woman” was Avery. That puts Ramonder at ease.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      It seems like with RHONY all they have done this season was borrow a page from others shows. Obviously the trip to Morocco was a rip of of sex and the city.
      The but accusations of alcoholism and ‘psychics’ revealing their are cheating spouses is a total rip of RHOBH. I guess the dark hairs didn’t watch the show that closely because the blow back from those allegations from the viewers actually damaged the finger pointers more.

      I don’t believe Mario is cheating based on what what some hack said anymore than I would believe that Jill has a big heart.

  31. Sparkles says:

    I have no idea whether Mario is cheating. I hope not.

    Research shows that most men – about 60 percent – cheat. The numbers are higher for wealthier men. So it is a safe prediction for a psychic to make.

  32. boston02127 says:

    I just sat down with my ice coffee and turned on the TV to ~~~”it’s a classic case of systematic bullying” Ugh…Kelly.

    • Nancy says:

      Morning boston,
      I’m watching it too. The “woman” needs to get off this show.
      Her daughters…

  33. Lei says:

    This blog site is horrible and really Hateful. Did Jill kill one of your family members or something. This kind of behavior of people is horrible. You should never be so mean. Do you all have children if you do you are teaching the horrible behavior. No one is perfect you make Ramona sound like a Saint. All of the women on all Housewives shows are showing the good and the bad. You should just watch not create sites where you preach HATE. You all need to take a real look at yourselves. I hope that you understand hating people only makes you unhappy. Good Luck to you all. Lei

    • Vesper says:

      Man, and I thought this blog went pretty easy on Jill. “Lei”. 😉

      I feel compelled to add something about her. Did anyone hear Jill’s comment when they came back from shopping? “You guys have all the shopping bags, but I spent all the money!” If that doesn’t describe Jill well! The fact she had to make sure the viewers knew she bought more than the others even though she wasn’t carrying anything in. Ugh.

  34. Tamra Is Trash says:

    Kelly looks like a man in the above picture.

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