I Hate Jill Zarin Watch What Happens Live

Another hysterical photo caption from Boston02127!  Love it!

I have to thank our regular poster here, Nancy for sending me this email conversation that she had with Ramona Singer:

From Nancy to Ramona:  Hey Ramona, you should read Lynnnchicago 101’s Blog, also called IHJZ blog.  This blog sees right through Jill Zarin.  It’s also a wonderful and supportive bunch of people.  Sometimes Simon posts on this blog and Lynn has interviewed some of the real housewives.  I know she would love to have you post.   Sincerely, Nancy

From Ramona to Nancy:  Too funny I always think Lynn
Is very perceptive in her writing!!!!!!!! 
I admire her so much
Reach out on tuesday to me
Ramona
Have a great weekend
Also I will be in chicago june 15th doining a ramona pinot bottle signing

Thanks for sharing that with us Nancy!  I’m certainly going to have to try to meet Ramona while she’s in Chicago!  

 Watch What Happens Live by LynnNChicago WWHL with Jacqueline and Teresa of The Real Housewives of New Jersey

Last week Jacqueline and Teresa appeared on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen and I wrote the blog on that episode before the After Show was posted so let’s talk a bit about that. Teresa was asked if she’d like to make up with her brother and she said that she’d love to and that she loves him more than anything.  When she says things like, “I love him more than anything” it really seems fake because it is just a catch phrase, I really hope that she loves her children more than she loves her brother.  The fact that she uses “I love him more than anything” makes me believe she doesn’t really mean that. Andy asked both Jacqueline and Teresa about their hair, Jacqueline says she doesn’t use a “bump-it” in her hair she just teases it, Teresa interrupts the question that was for Jac and insists that she just has a lot of hair and that everyone tells her she has such beautiful hair.  Since no one was asking you Teresa, lets just say that we know you’re a hairy mother!  If only you had a forehead. Teresa explained that in order to straighten her hair it takes an hour to blow it straight then it stays that way for a week, unfortunately she added that she can’t wash it or it’ll go curly again.  Teresa doesn’t wash her hair for a week?  How does she take a shower without getting her hair wet?  She must have an amazing hair cap to keep it dry while she showers.   Maybe she takes baths?  I could never go a week without washing my hair, I’d be grossed out.

Andy brought out Jacqueline’s daughter Ashley who is now sporting blonde extensions that she admitted she’d just had for two weeks.  She’s living at home, her room is a mess and her lips are huge!  She’s had a temporary injectible to plump her lips and admitted that her mom paid for it but she didn’t ask first.  Jacqueline said Ashley just came home with the big lips and “what am I supposed to say now?”

I don’t know Jacqueline, how about saying that you’re going to make the spoiled brat pay for it herself?  How about telling her if she does anything like that again, she is out of the house? So many discussions have gone back and forth about Jacqueline’s mothering skills and she’s defended herself telling viewers that she’s grounded Ashley, taken away her car, her phone, etc.  Then we hear that this kid went to a plastic surgeon and had her lips injected at her mother’s expense and Jacqueline just blows it off like it’s nothing, her attitude is, “well it’s done now, nothing I can do”.  Sigh…

Andy forced Ashley to say something nice about her mother, she said she loves her so much and appreciates everything she’s ever done for her.  It could have been a bit more believable if she’d done it without being prompted by Cohen. Teresa was asked why she had Domino’s Pizza at her Halloween party, she claims she didn’t order it but that other kids brought it with them.  Andy asked what the age difference is between her and Melissa – answered 6-years.

Andy forgot to ask this question

Teresa admitted that the “Melissa drama” is much worse than the “Danielle drama” because it’s family.  No surprise there. Andy never asks the tough questions, how about asking Teresa how the Bankruptcy case is going?  How she felt about her husband sitting in jail?  Did she visit the jailbird?  Whether she expects Joe to go back to jail for his latest felony?

WWHL with Ramona Singer and Willie Geist.  

Ramona does have some big eyes! The show was a bit forgettable, Ramona tried to get a few digs into Luann and Jill.  Ramona continues to insist she’s had no plastic surgery. Ramona was asked if she regrets being rude on the trip to Morocco, she denied being rude at all, in fact she explained that Luann offered up the services of the staff to “help” her unpack but that she never required that the staff unpack for her.  The caller who asked the question wouldn’t accept that answer and said that she had drink after drink, just proving that Bravo’s attempts to make Ramona seem like she has a drinking problem is apparently working.

Willie Geist was pretty funny at times, he told Ramona that she was losing friends over the Pinot and should just order a Vodka Tonic now and then, I like his subtle comedy but I’m not sure Ramona got it.

Ramona explained the designer issue that Luann complained about on the show.  There are plenty of designers out there and Ramona was concerned that Luann would be photographed in the same dress as her if they both utilized the same designer.  It makes perfect sense to me particularly when Amazon woman Luann would most likely look better in those dresses, I think I’d do the same if I were Ramona. I adore Ramona when she slams the other women, she is a “get back atcha” kinda gal.  Slam Ramona and she’ll slam ya right back!

Luann tweeted that the fortune-teller was spot on, (perhaps a little dig at Ramona) since Ramona’s reading included another woman, Ramona decided to reveal that Luann and her husband both cheated on each other while they were married.  Seems to me Ramona thought it would be surprising news to viewers but in fact we already knew the deLesseps were both unfaithful to each other.

Ramona was sure to explain to viewers that Jill lied about her home in the Hamptons during the first two seasons, she pretended to still own the home when actually she was renting it from the owners after having sold it.  Jill proudly tells us that she sold at the top of the market but forgets that she failed to reveal it was sold and pretended to still own it.  Ramona also tells us that the yellow Ferari wasn’t a gift from Bobby, it was rented for a week so that she could show it off to viewers.

One Flew Over the Couscous Nest by Quincy IL

Ramona Singer is truthful.  She is also likely to start riots in the Streets of Marrakesh when she visits the third world country. Ramona can’t help it.  She is who she is.  She is not afraid to tell Cindy to stick a hanger up her butt or demand IV pinot grigio upon arrival at a bed and breakfast in the Medina for Brad Boles’ birthday celebration.  Ramona Singer has become the star of “The Real Housewives of New York City.”  For this honor, Ramona should thank Jill Zarin, Luann de Lesseps, Cindy Barshop, Sonja Morgan, and Alex McCord. Each of these women is obsessed with Ramona Singer.

Ramona was the one honest person when the trip was first suggested. She knew that this was an exotic adventure, but with all adventures comes some dangers.  The other women may have had their own concerns off camera, but Ramona was upfront in an interview sharing that Morocco is unfair to women.  If you look at the veiled women in the souk, you know that they play a role in their society that is subordinate to their husbands and male family members.  Ramona is not subordinate.  She is her husband Mario’s equal and she might wear the pants in that family.

Luggagegate was the first point of conflict in the three part series where the women visit Morocco.  Luann failed to do her homework so she could not tell Ramona what to bring in the line of clothing for the four day visit. Ramona emptied her closet into three suitcases and moved to the Middle East. The stress of setting her jewelry line on pedestals for the camera to film was so great that Ramona asked the staff of the riad to help her.  She dominated the unpacking scenes with her animal skinned patterned cocktail dresses and her hip jewelry for belly dancing. 

Sonja might have been worried about the security of the luggage, but Ramona made sure we saw what she brought just as she did with her bikinis on the yacht off Scary Island.  Ramona knows how to get screen time.

Luann and Kelly may have been concerned that Ramona’s clothes were too sexy, but we watched Kelly’s left breast practically fall out of her yellow swim attire when she was talking to Cindy who was trying to contact her babies on the phone.  Cindy’s blue dress was see through.   Alex’s skirts were short.  Sonja didn’t wear underwear and she kept reminding us of that.  Luann showed cleavage when she was shopping for fabrics.  Only Jill was covered the entire time and for that we are all grateful.  Ramona said that she likes to show a little cleavage, but most of the time she was as covered as any of the others.  They all wear sexy clothing. 

The next point of conflict was “Hangergate.”  Cindy went to her room to discover that some of her clothes had fallen to the floor and hangers were missing from her closet.  Who had a hanger in her hand at the time?  Ramona did.  Thus, begins a skirmish which results in the use of the word “hanger” 36 times.  Although I suspect the house maid had a hand in the missing hangers from Cindy’ s closet, Cindy was sure that one of the blonds had gone into her room and violated her privacy while stealing hangers from her closet. Ramona confronted her and talked loudly behind Cindy back resulting in a second confrontation.  Cindy informed Luann so Ramona starred in the scene where Luann brought more hangers.  There were moments of Mommy Dearest and Joan Crawford when Ramona suggested what Cindy could do with a hanger. Alex and Sonja were very careful to be seen, but not heard during most of “Hangergate.” You don’t want to throw yourself into a volcano if you suspect that you might not be a virgin.

At TV Awards - The Blondes

Shades of the Hooters’ Yacht came to our minds when Sonja and Ramona jumped ship rather than eat a lunch with Jill, Luann, Kelly and Cindy.  It was not surprising that they went to a luxury hotel for fun in the sun and a search for companionship rather than be near the pool making conversation with people who have been bitching about them for weeks on film, behind their backs and to their faces.

Sonja was also a subject of gossip when the brunettes chowed down near the pool.  After roasting Ramona’s wardrobe, the PR nightmare known as Kelly Killoren Bensimon, said that Sonja was living a lie.  Kelly Sonja and Ramona never get their nails done.  She said that Sonja prides herself on doing her own hair and makeup.  She then proceeded to tell us that Sonja’s house is dirty, disorganized and smelly.  Kelly said that is hasn’t been redecorated since the 1900’s.  Luann tried to save the reputation of Sonja as a sophisticated woman, but Kelly put a nail in the coffin.  Jill chimed in that it was true.  Luann tried to say it was unfair, but the genie was out of the bottle.
When Luann had a famous Moroccan designer come to measure the women, Ramona alone took the stage and started directing.  She designed the dress, measured herself and almost got the designer to fuel the fire in the riad.  Alex actually put the logs on the fire, but Ramona’s side kick Sonja played the part of Sheherrazad sharing tales of her past life.
Alex reacted to Ramona and Sonja as often as the brunettes in the first of the three episodes.  She never called them “ugly Americans” like Jill Zarin did, but she was shocked that they were willing to embarrass the driver and designer so she gave her honest opinions in interviews.

Kelly is seeking revenge on the blonds because of Scary Island.  Kelly has used interviews this entire season to complain about the women who discussed her break down in the third season reunion and later in the press.  Vengeance is sweet. Kelly knows how to dish it out. BTW, the Scary Island jelly beans are back, but Kelly is not drinking alcohol this time. We see her being very careful to stab people in the backs, but not confront them when they can fight back. 

The brunettes happened to be in a fabric shop filming when Brad Boles stopped by to invite them to his birthday party and to discuss the star of this show, Ramona Singer. Apparently, Ramona committed the ultimate sin and did not properly greet Brad at a very large party last summer.  For this slight, Ramona would slip on his newly waxed floors and be bitten by a very large and poisonous snake.  If that failed to kill her, Brad had hired a veiled French speaking fortune teller who would destroy Ramona with the revelation that there was another woman in her husband’s life. 

It was telling that the brunettes received good news about their futures and compliments while the blonds were exposed for their financial problems and marital concerns.  The veiled fortune teller must have been a waitress at the lunch by the pool of the riad where she listened to the brunettes’ gossip.  Perhaps, Brad shared with a certain mousy brunette with a little gray. Either way, Sonja and Ramona end up in tears.  Brad should be happy.  I’m sure Jill enjoyed the show. Luann was not afraid to translate, but Kelly ran for the hills.  

Everyone is the small kitchen with the tarot card reader was projecting their feelings.  Only Ramona kept her cool.  She thought the other woman was her daughter.  Sonja feelings of abandonment will be shared next week. 

RHONY Brunettes

Jill is going to have to try harder because Ramona is a formidable opponent and her star is rising after every wave of attacks launched by Team Jill. BTW, did Jill Zarin come back from Australia yet?  She is almost invisible in this episode.

Nice work Quincy, as always I love your insight!  Lynn~

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337 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Watch What Happens Live

  1. quincyil says:

    The secret friend who showed you Manhattan. We all knew that someone was with you Lynn, but none of us suspected that it was Bethenny showing you the town.

    Q

  2. MickeyMouth says:

    “Only Jill was covered the entire time and for that we are all grateful. ” LOL

    • quincyil says:

      Mickey, it’s summer and time for fun. Perhaps, you can put other stars next to Lynn in that photo. Kelly in a bikini comes to my mind. rotft.

      I would love one of Jill hugging Lynn.

    • quincyil says:

      MM, I suggested that everyone here at IHJZ spend the summer in the Hamptons with Kelly and Jill. We all remember those free summers of high school when you didn’t have homework even if you had to work a summer job. Well, every summer is free for Jill, Kelly, Luannn, and Sonja. They stay along the Atlantic shoreline when they are not traveling on vacations to Europe. I thought we could experience this through the eyes of Kelly Bensimon since she records every thing she eats or does on twitter.

      If you find anything please share with Lynn.

      All board members are asked for contributions to all summer long party.
      We may have to work and may not have the funds for expensive vacations, but we can have fun here sharing with friends. I have a feeling that Kelly Bensimon will make it a “Hot!” summer. rotfl.

      Q

      • error404 says:

        Huh? Summer is Jill and Kiki’s busiest time of year.

        Jill doesn’t even know the meaning of the word relax, and summers are spent spinning spinning spinning. She’s gotta pepper her constant false rumor plants of doom and gloom for Alex and Ramoner with fake exclamations of how much fun she is having with Kiki and Cindy BarfSTFU, Caro Manzo, Patti Skankier,etc.. oh and all of that constant tweeting about her fabulous circle of friends.. exhausting! Not to mention all the shout out to her failed book, her failed, bedding line, her failing qirdle line, her failing fabric business, her failing marriage, etc…

        Kelly has a gorgeous house, her kids are out of school, the wonderful beach is right there, and the areas has an active social life… yet she spends pretty much half her time in hot and humid NYC, plus all of her odd trips to equally awful places like Vegas during summer. It’s just bizarre. You could be right about her being broke because it could be this really awesome beach day and she’ll tweet a pic of herself at some awful D-List product launch event, the fabric of her oversized shirt she’s wearing as a dress clinking to her skin due to the sticky humidity, while the nanny keeps texting that she’s going to quit if things don’t get better, but that’s the 3rd nanny to quit and the summer isn’t even half over….

  3. Okie Folkie says:

    Good Mornin’ everyone! Aaahhh, the little pleasures in life, like being one of the very 1st posters of the day!

    Thanks for the blog!

  4. Furalis says:

    Mickey those are fabulous and love the bus LOL

    Best line by Q “Ramona emptied her closet into three suitcases and moved to the Middle East.” too funny.

    • quincyil says:

      I loved the looks on Alex’s and Sonja’s faces when they were dealing with Ramona, Cindy, and Luann during “Hangergate.” They knew this was going to be on TV. So my favorite lines were:

      ” There were moments of Mommy Dearest and Joan Crawford when Ramona suggested what Cindy could do with a hanger. Alex and Sonja were very careful to be seen, but not heard during most of “Hangergate.” You don’t want to throw yourself into a volcano if you suspect that you might not be a virgin.”

      Alex played the innocent and Sonja might have been….the hanger culprit…. look at the Cheshire cat smile on her face during those scenes. rotfl.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        IMO – Cindy didn’t expect them to deny and then laugh at her! Kelly couldn’t have handled that Hangergate mission. Jill is trying to stay in the background (guessing this is her version of nice) and LuAnn was actually in charge of hangers as the hostess so it would have been her error if there were not enough flipping hangers! It was a waste of viewers’ time – we could have been treated to Morocco b filler scenes!

        • nathania says:

          you know what I thought was interesting? Luann saying that she had the staff bring them ‘extra’ hangers. I would put money on Luann having told staff to go into Cindy’s closet and take the hangers…if Luann herself did not do so.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            Didn’t Alex say in her blog that she was the one who requested extra hangers because Simon worked in the hotel business and warned her this would be an issue?

            Oh what a wicked web the brunettes weave…

      • PF says:

        My favorite was when we see one scene with LuAnn all offended that one of the blondes would take hangers from Cindy to the point of stamping her feet off saying that it was ridiculous they would do that….and the next scene she has an armload of them, almost breathless, saying, “Who needs hangers”? LOL

  5. Maryla says:

    Great posts. Always enjoy reading this blog. Thanks Lynn.
    I have to wonder what the “friendship” dynamic is between Luann and Jill. Luann seems eager to do Jill’s bidding. But what exactly is in it for Luann? Does she simply get off on the thrill of the hunt? Is it a game? You can see how flummoxed she gets when the blondes throw a wrench in her scheming. Esp. in the scene about So-Ra going for a drive instead of shopping with the brunettes. She was very obviously thrown by the turn of events. But still, you could still see the wheels turning. Instead of the entire group “accidentally” encountering Brad in the store, they’d have to admit to arranging a meeting and finalizing plans for a party in order to get everyone together.
    Now, we all know Jill is mean and dumb–and discounts the intelligence of viewers. But I think that Luanne is mean and smart. That is a worse combination. Why Luann has hitched her wagon to that (falling) star is beyond me. I don’t understand the motivation. Plus the countess has got to look around the table at times and wonder, “how the F did I end up aligned with this crew?”
    Just managing Kelly must be a full-time job. And Cindy. Ha ha. I can see having to explain plans and schemes to Cindy twenty times before she gets it. Luann must be ready to bitch-slap Cindy. She probably told her, “Cindy, go make a problem with the blondes.” Then, when Cindy returned and said she made a kerfuffle over stolen hangers, Luann must’ve been livid, realizing she’d surrounded herself with not only dumb and dumber, but also dumbest.

    • error404 says:

      I will never understand why so many go to bat for Jill, it boggles the mind, but she seems to have an endless supply of people willing to confront people for her. It’s just weird.

      With LuAnn, I think it’s partly a matter of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. She has always seemed to have a sort of disgust for Alex and Ramoner, but Ramoner really has given her some good pot shots over the years, so I think she truly does hate Ramoner. Plus she was really mad a Bethenny for her pot shots as well. With B I think it was slightly different, in a think she was stung by the rejection. I think she really wanted to be friends with B, but B’s criticisms of her were very hurtful to her, she always acted jilted toward B toward the end. The axis of evil with Jill benefit sher as you’ll notice Jill never once ever says anything bad about Lulu, her kids, her awful marriage and nasty divorce, etc… and Jill is the type of person who can barely say “good morning” without letting an insult slip in.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        LuAnn started off needing someone to buddy with so she would be included in scenes – Jill needs minions for her team. Perfect match. (But I also think that LuAnn would have loved to be friendly with Bethenny and regrets not being included with the blondes.)

        • nathania says:

          that’s a good point, i wonder if Luann knows how boring she is and knows the best way to avoid being left out is to align herself with the most mentally unstable people. Luann is also very bored, I think. She might not even know it. And she can’t be friends with anyone normal because they would laugh in her face about the “Countess” crap, which is the most important thing in life to her. So she has to be friends with people as vapid as she is.

          • dsc60 says:

            luann and jill had an established friendship before the start of the show. also, jill was a fan favorite season 1 & 2. season 3, luann and jill were coupled to bring bethenny down, they had no idea it was going to be an epic fail. by that point, her switching sides wouldn’t have been credible and the fact that ramona was on the other side would make it all the more disingenuous. also, i don’t think she expected sonja to click with ramona like she did. alex, she couldn’t care less about.

          • Getagrip says:

            Really Dahling! 😉

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Well we know it’s not because she brings them great gifts from her travels. Cheap koala bears anybody??? Of course JZ claims she gave everyone a much nicer gift, but that part was not filmed. Maybe a “This b*tch Jill Zarin went to Australia and all I got was this lousy t-shirt” t-shirt????

      • Cheri says:

        Luann needs someone to remind everyone that she is Countess and Jill is the only one that does that That is her payback from Jill

  6. Caitlin says:

    It makes me so happy when I see a new blog in my “in box” – thanks so much! Yes, Ramona is formidable indeed. Far more formidable, I suspect, than the brunettes ever anticipated. I love that she does not back down about things like expecting help when help was touted and wanting the pinot, no matter what! We all know that most male eccentricities are respected and catered to, while too many of our sisterhood (uh, me), tend to go along to get along no matter our preference. And Ramona does it with the cameras rolling, and she doesn’t back down when confronted with silly ass questions a la Andy Cohen. Speaking of Andy – his emotional age seems to vary between 13 and 15, and his little antics (where he seems most concerned in amusing himself) are starting to get on my last nerve. Anyone else feel that way?

    • Maryla says:

      Andy is like a cat with his favorite toys lined up.

      He has his favorites (Bethenny, Kandi, Laurie [waring], Caroline). and then those who are on just so that they can make complete fools of themeselves (Ashley, Teresa, Tamra, Alexis, Jill, Kelly, Camille, Luann, Kim Z.).

      You could see him messing with Ashley and Jacqueline on the watch what happens aftershow. Really going on and on about the lips — that she looks like Angelina Jolie? Ugh. Just to build up her confidence. He’s just toying with them to help them make bigger fools of themselves. He gets two points for the assist!

      For him, that translates into bigger ratings on the shows. What viewer doesn’t want to tune in for a total train wreck? Cohen knows that and plays them.

      I see how it could be completely annoying, but it has a purpose.

      • nathania says:

        I’m not sure…

        It could be that there was always an untapped audience for these shows. I am not sure that a production crew who went with a totally different angle might not be as successful with this show.

        women who don’t necessarily like each other and kvetch occasionally and once in a while have a semi-dramatic breakdown. Between menopause and pms this could have been easily accomplished.

        I am just not sure it has to go the way
        Cohen thinks it does.

    • error404 says:

      Yes. Except for the “starting” part. I’ve always found him weird and childish.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Uh-oh. DJ warned yesterday that he protects Andy at all costs. We should expect him here any second now.

        Personally, I think the “boy-ish” thing is part of his charm. I think he is hysterical and good-spirited.

        • error404 says:

          he can be funny, but never as funny or as nice as I think he is going to be or can be. There just seems to be too many things to overlook for me to really like him: his obsession with Ben Weiner, his obsession with that reverend who lived the secret gay life, his obsession with women having plastic surgery, his IMO immature obsession with “the lady pond”, etc… One could argue that RH is an anthropological study of a large population group, but it just seems more and more that Andy is more interested in just making fun of weird people for sport. And this may seem petty, but I’ve yet to hear an even semi-credible excuse on why Kelly was asked back after her frightening psychotic break on tv. Her boss making funny faces while she spews crazy delusional nonsense on his talk show doesn’t cut it for me as an “explanation”.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            Error, Somebody posted on here the other day that if he fired her after that, he would more than likely face a discrimination suit. I agree with that theory. I don’t think he can get rid of someone based on their mental health issues. He would risk a huge lawsuit.

            • Nancy says:

              I totally agree. 100%

              • Error404 says:

                Really? I would think between undisclosed mental illness before hiring plus the fact that she posed a danger tothe wellfairof her cast would butthe employer in the right. I’m mean anyone can and does sue. Bogus law suits are thrown out everyday. Butthe idea that the law would side with someone making threats and creating anunsafe work environment for everyone seems unrealiatic to me. I’m sure she would have even been offered compensation: here’s x$ to go away!
                Sorry, ithink Andy saw the ratings for s t John and said ” this ones a keeper!”

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I love seeing new blogs in my in box too. I always hope for a new blog to go with my morning coffee. Such a great way to start the day. And on a holiday weekend no less!!! Thank you Empress Quincy and Lynn!

    • Getagrip says:

      I was cracking up when Andy seemed to be getting very upset when Jackie put the whatever-it-was-called ham under her dress and started playing with it. When she started slapping it around it seemed it was just too much for him! He gets on my nerves…

      • Caitlin says:

        Thanks for reminding me! After all his silly hijinks, it really got under his skin when someone else was taking the “silly” away from him. Methinks Andy’s ego was showing……

        • Getagrip says:

          I think it was just too close to home for him and at one point he looked like he was going to cry if she didn’t stop. He can make fun of boobs, but a fake penis….well Andy just wasn’t going to put up with THAT!

  7. FlowerPower says:

    Great blog, Quincy! Love “is Jill back from Australia yet?” Ha!

    Mickey–so many great pics lately. So nice to have your skills back on display (the blondes on the camel was brilliant!)

    Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. I’ve been spending a lot of time at Children’s in Boston lately (sick grandchild), so haven’t been watching/posting very much (could only stomach half of the last episode before deleting it). I check in when I can for the laughs your comments provide.

    • quincyil says:

      Is that Brigham Women’s and Children’s? My daughter has friends who are attendings there now.

    • MickeyMouth says:

      Thanks. It’s so hard to find the time anymore, but I do try to keep up with the blogs. I’m sorry to hear about your grandchild I hope he is better.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Hope your grandchild gets well quickly! Glad you are there for support.

      • MAMAZ says:

        I hope your granddaughter is feeling better soon. I hate that powerless feeling you get when a child is unwell.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I’m so sorry to hear about your grandchild. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I’m so sorry to hear you grandchild is ill. I hope they are home soon and fully recovered.

    • boston02127 says:

      @FlowerPower –Your family is in my prayers. ♥

  8. boston02127 says:

    OMG—I almost spit a sip of my coffee at my screen when I saw Bethenny & Lynn! Too funny.

    • boston02127 says:

      Ha ha ha —I just noticed the Skinny Girl tour bus in the pic. Luv it!

      • quincyil says:

        I love those photos from you and MM every day.

        No matter the problems, there are a few minutes of fun here. We all just keep moving forward.

  9. boston02127 says:

    I have Sex And The City on. Carrrie is having lunch with Amanda and (carrie’s ex) and Amanda’s new b/f. Carrie has on the exact HUGH gold butterfly necklace that LuMann has.

  10. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s all over the map this morning. Maybe her meds haven’t kicked in yet.

    Her tweet~~~
    Mornin. Happy Sunday. Who’s doing what, and what are you eating at your bbq?? I love to run, and eat calamari and drink margies.

    • quincyil says:

      Those were my thoughts at 7 AM this morning too.

      • Okie Folkie says:

        Wow! She “loves to drink margies”? I wonder WHO is Margie? I mean, we ALL know KooKoo doesnt drink, right?
        Someone should warn poor Margie!

        • Getagrip says:

          I loved it when Bethenny referred to her as “CooCooCadoo” on Scary Island. It makes me laugh every time I think about it…it’s just perfect…

      • Getagrip says:

        It must have been the jelly beannies…

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Margies? So is it Bravo’s fault or Bethenny’s fault that she can’t say margaritas anymore? Or maybe she just can’t spell the real word?

  11. boston02127 says:

    @Nancy–You must have been excited to get an email from Ramona! I hope Lynn gets to meet her.

    • quincyil says:

      I bet Lynn will go!

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        I hope she does- and gets an interview. That will ruffle Jill’s feathers

        • ihearttalavera says:

          It would also ruffle Jill’s feathers if we all decided to follow Ramona on Twitter so she would have more followers than Jill. Somebody mentioned it the other day and I think it’s a great idea.

          • rabblerouser says:

            I’m already following Ramona and try as I might I just can’t seem to get jill to ban me.

    • neroes says:

      I thought it was so nice of her. With all the things that Ramona is involved in I was surprised that she answered my email. I hope she comes back to Fl. soon so I can go meet her.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        I would love to meet her also. I think she is an amazing role model for girls.

        If you don’t mind me asking what did she mean by “reach out to me on Tuesday?”

      • Nancy says:

        neroes,
        I’m so sorry I am getting credit for YOUR e-mail to Ramona.
        I posted this up thread. Sorry.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          Nancy, I also assumed it was you. I was going ask you my question earlier but didn’t see you on here. I think it’s really cool that Ramona answered an email from an IHJZ commenter and now we know she reads Lynn’s blog.

          • neroes says:

            It was me, also a Nancy. I don’t know what she meant by Tues. Maybe she meant Thurs. I’m glad she reads this blog and knows that she has supporters here.

  12. boston02127 says:

    Repeats of RHONY is on now.

    • Furalis says:

      I know Cindy and her teeth and Jill reminding Cindy she is giving up a work day. UGH

  13. housewifeaddict says:

    Good Morning,

    More lies from Cindy ….

    “No strings attached: Barshop was surprised when Bravo labeled her “unconventional” in her casting announcement. “I don’t see myself that way, but I guess what they mean is that I’m a single mom by choice. I’ve had serious relationships, but I wasn’t in one when I had my girls. I guess what’s also unconventional about me is that I’m the breadwinner taking care of everyone in my life. I started my own business and I’ve grown it. I like to have fun. I do things on my terms.””

    REALLY CINDY – WHAT ABOUT THE TWIN’S DAD WHO YOU WERE LIVING WITH WHEN YOU GAVE BIRTH????

    http://www.stylelist.com/2011/03/28/cindy-barshop-the-real-housewives-of-new-york/

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Unconventional is a polite word to use when the person is somewhat weird.

    • klmh says:

      I think both are gay. They probably wanted to have children and it seems to work for them. jmo.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I was really surprised when Vinnie posted on here yesterday that he thinks Cindy is “cute.” I thought negativity was a turn off for most men. Cute is never a word I would think of to describe her.

  14. MicheleF. says:

    I have to laugh every time Jill asks “Why wasn’t I invited?” and she does it again in her blog. She started that on season 1 when Ramona didn’t invite her to something and here it is season 4 and she hasn’t figured it out! Another hypocritical moment for Jill – she is “upset” and “hurt” that Ramona and Sonja didn’t invite her (them) to go wtih them when the left the riad that day, but didn’t skip a beat when she told Brad he didn’t have to invite Ramona to his party. She was all for leaving Ramona behind alone.

    • quincyil says:

      She didn’t mind not inviting Bethenny to the Sach event of Season Three and then possibly leaking that to the press. Someone who knew about the issue of the fight between B and J and knew about the specifics of the Sach invitations leaked that as Bethenny noted on TV.

      Jill is the buzz kill.

      I am not a party person, but if I every go on a trip with the RHNYC, let me go with the blonds.

      • MicheleF. says:

        I have to agree. The blondes seem to have more fun! I wonder if Luann is trying to out-hostess Ramona. The funny thing is this trip doesn’t seem to need a hostess. The Scary Island trip was for Ramona’s renweal so it seemed natural that she would host is and I think she did a really good job. On this trip they all seemed to be involved with the preparation and they aren’t celebrating anything so Luann just comes off as a control freak, emphasis on freak.

  15. boston02127 says:

    I’m rewatching the RHONY. After Ramona confronted Jill about the bride & the wedding. Jill walks out and runs in to the bride.

    Jill—Can I talk to you? I was just mauled by Ramona….(explains the story)

    Bride—The whole thing was inappropriate. (meaning Jill confronting (herself) the bride on her wedding day)

    Jill–So you agree she attacted me.

    Jill doesn’t get it. The bride was taking about what Jill did, not Ramona!

    Now she’s in the car fake crying. I hate her.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill showed us the correct way to “ambush” a person and then “deflect” what she had done by talking about some drunk friends and their questions and then “discount” what that person really was saying so it fit with her story.

      • Getagrip says:

        Does Jill not know these shows are on TV, or does she just think we’re all idiots? I mean really we see every back-stabbing made up thing she does. As a viewer I am offended, hahahahahaha 🙂

  16. Kats2 says:

    Just caught an odd thing maybe another lie or error? Upcoming scenes showed all the girls together at the airport (Remember the scene with Ramona drinking wine while waiting to board the plane and Jill asking Kelly and Luann why she’s drinking)????

    But on the show the blondes arrive a day later? What am I missing?

  17. Kats2 says:

    I didn’t see this Bravo clip before. 3 people I can’t stand Jill-her mother -Kelly

    http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-4/videos/shopping-with-jills-mother

    • Jill was very upset that this scene didn’t make it on the show. She complained about it on Facebook. LOL

      • Kats2 says:

        HA! Of course trying to replace Bethenny and get her shrew of a mother camera time.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        That’s funny – I think Lisa complained about that too in her blog.

        • Rabble Rouser says:

          Of course they were upset, they have been trying to pitch MOTHER as the new Ann Landers, but when the tides turned against Jill and our eyes opened up to “Mother is not happy” gripping Gloria- that was the end of that.

          I’m sure the script/plot line was poor beat up Kelly wasn’t going to go on the trip, but then Jill’s mommy gave her some stellar advice and viola- Kelly is going.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Has anybody noticed that Jill is the only one who complains about scenes not making it on to the show? Probably because she spends months planning them and writing the scripts. She is beyond control freak.

  18. Kats2 says:

    Can’t wait for Lynn to meet Ramona! Great blogs Lynn and Q. Thank you!

    Like the mean HW’s – I think I will start some rumors, let’s see if these stick

    -Luann has a drinking problem and Jacques is with her to get a green card.

    -Jill is an alcoholic (I like this one keep it going) and Bobby has been cheating on her for years.

    -Kelly is a hermaphrodite, she has a penis and has to pay men to be with her. This is why she is on many drugs.

    -Cindy paid that guy to have those babies, they were never in a relationship. But he wants the kids now. Big custody battle. Cindy is really a lesbian and is in love with Kelly.

    • nathania says:

      add Luann is in love with Jill. Luann has searched her entire life for someone as nasty, mean and bitter as herself. Her whole life has been spent with the knowledge that she is somehow different from others, and until she met Jill Zarin she felt like a hybrid or mutation, a genetic throwback to a coarser time. Now, not only has she met a woman know really understands the enjoyment in badgering and destroying other people for sport, but her object of affection does it so openly. Her object of affection doesn’t pretend to be ‘nice’ but instead is openly confrontational and mean-spirited, and Jill’s instant turnabout into being a victim thrills Luann to the core when she watches it happen in person. She can’t believe she has finally found her soulmate, after half a lifetime of loneliness.

    • Mary says:

      Kats2
      You say these are rumors? Hmmm, I betcha you’ve hit on some truths. LuMann younger man wants to make a name for himself and is using her to get exposure. That won’t end well. Even if they get married, it won’t end well.

      Jill probably is a recovering alchy. But the real problem with her is that she’s insanely jealous of anyone in the spotlight. All her attempts to make money are a complete failure. That stupid book, those nasty sheets, her tacky fabrics. Where does she get off critizing Sonja? Remember her overly decorated tacky apartment, done by that woman Brad? Yuk? Was he fired, or what? Jill is toxic and ugly. I don’t care if she got her boobs cut down, her nose de-curbed, extensions glued on, or starved herself, she still looks like a matronly flying monkey with a bad New York accent.

      As for Kelly, what can I say? I’ve always suspected that has a penis. She wants babies? Jeez that leathery beast really does live in kuku land.

      You know, crazy Ramona had become the star of the show. I just wish she would stop with the Pinot talk. I like her energy and would like to see more of her spunky pretty daughter. That young lady has class. (Gosh, what a difference between Ramona’s and LuMann’s daughters! How ironic!)

      And Cindy! Who picks these men looking people? Andy? Jeeze, why is she on the show? She brings nothing to the table!

      Alex…love her. Classy.

      Sonja? Love her too.

      So rumors? More like truths.

      • Getagrip says:

        I love Alex too but was a little scared watching that scene with her son and the piano….Yikes!

  19. Okie Folkie says:

    I thought this was interesting….sorry if its been posted! From TMZ:
    _____________________________________________________

    Bravo to Porn Site — Stop Pimping ‘Real Housewives’!!!

    5/29/2011 12:30 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

    Bravo is on the rampage … after the network discovered a XXX website using the “Real Housewives” good name to promote its sex performers — and now, they’re gunning to shut the whole site down.

    0524_bravo_ex_logo_2

    A rep for the reality network fired off a letter on Monday to RealHousewivesofScottsdale.com — a site that boasts live XXX performances from several “housewives” — and accused the site of sullying the “Real Housewives” reputation.

    Bravo claims RHOS is infringing on their trademark — insisting site operators better pull the plug on the entire operation stat … or else.

    But the site owner ain’t scared — telling us, he’s not pulling the plug on anything … and he’s willing to go to court over it.

    See also

    * Danielle Staub Raked in $25,000 for Strip Sesh
    * Danielle Staub QUITS Stripping — I Need Mental Help
    * Camille to Kelsey — The Kids Want Me, Not You!

    • Okie Folkie says:

      I dont understand why Andy gushes on and on about the Porn Star Alexis Couture, he even showed clips of her a few weeks ago, but NOW he’s pissed at RHOS?

      • nathania says:

        he’s not ‘pissed’ he knows they are making money off his ho, and nobody pimps out his ho but him.

        • Okie Folkie says:

          You’re right, nathania. Although, I dont know how well it will work for Bravo if they try to trademark “Real Housewife”. I’m not 100% sure, but, when The Donald tried to TM “You’re Fired”, seems that didnt work so well for him.

          So, I guess the question is where do you (not YOU…..) draw the line?
          Hell, by Bravo’s standards I’m a “Real Housewife”, as I’m sure many, many other women are too.
          So, one cant go about their daily lives making money if they use the term “Real Housewife”?

          • lillybee says:

            Disney tried to trademark Seal Team 6 right after Osama was killed. That failed, too.

  20. MicheleF. says:

    I just caught a couple of minutes of the Canyon Ranch episode. Oh, Kelly. We all know that one of the best ways to teach your children is by example and every time I see Kelly I think of this. She is teaching her children by example: (1) Always be a victim. That way someone will always take care of you. Forget about being strong, independent, self-supporting adults! Just be a victim and have other people do the work for you! (2) Be afraid of everything. (3) Lie like there is no tomorrow. Truth doesn’t matter. (4) Sex (and the human body in general) is icky, gross, and creepy – unless it’s with a man old enough to be your father/grandfather and he has a ton of money.

    I know there is more but you get the idea.

    • nathania says:

      yeah, she’s weird. she was weirder last year but she’s still weird.

      Like someone else said yesterday she’s like one of the most un self-aware people ever, it’s very bizarre.

  21. boston02127 says:

    Still watching RHONY. (having a lazy day) Ok, it takes me awhile……I think Jill, who’s still outraged at Ramona for not being welcomed on Scary Island, knew Ramona would be pushing her wine this season and Jill is using that to make Ramona look like a drunk.

    • MicheleF. says:

      I agree but I still don’t understand why Luann is pushing the drunk angle so much. Luann doesn’t miss an opportunity to say something about it. Like in Morocco she tries to get the blondes to come down to the living room by saying something like “We have white wine!” and then on the clip from next week when they are on the camels and she shouts to Ramona there is an oasis and they probably have pinot or something like that. It is beyond old and stale. Eh, so is Luann.

      • boston02127 says:

        I don’t understand why someone just doesn’t say to pushy Luann “mind your own business and stay out of it” I would luv to hear Alex or Ramona to say that to her.

        Luann has no other story line except budding in. Oh and her one song. The song that I’m sure isn’t paying the bills.

        • MicheleF. says:

          I would love for someone to tell Luann off. I think we have Jill nailed down but Luann keeps slipping through relatively unscathed and I want someone to nail her down too!

        • error404 says:

          Um… they say it all the time, especially Ramoner, Lulu just doesn’t care.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            Yes, Ramona just told her last week. Luann doesn’t care and she doesn’t listen.

        • Getagrip says:

          LuMann (sorry, love the name so I’m using it from now on) should look in the mirror and sing “Money can’t buy you class”. Does this woman understand the meaning of irony?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill never forgets anything that is negative that someone else does. Jill forgets everything that would show her to be a lying, petty, nasty bitch.

  22. V-NY says:

    I have some insight regarding alleged other women in Mario’s life.
    Une autre femme- means another woman…(everyone knows that by now)
    If Avery was the other woman, then why didn’t the fortune teller use the phrase ‘une autre fille’- another girl/daughter is the literal translation, like in the phrase: J’ai une fille- I have a daughter.
    I hope the fortune teller is a fraud because I would not like to see Ramoma publically humiliated like that regardless of the validity of those prophecies. Bravo does need to create some boundaries concerning cast member’s intimate personal lives.

    Also, I am very proud of Kelly for having the ability to speak en francais!! It adds to her socialite status, and she really is intelligent; she deserves to shine.
    The language aspect is my favorite part of the show because it showcases the array of the abilities these NY socialites have. Jill probably knows some Hebrew and Yiddish- so that includes her in the language sophistication. Yiddish is a beautiful language too.

    regards
    vin

    • boston02127 says:

      Kelly’s ability to speak “en francais”, adds to her social status? What social status? She’s known to be an ex nobody model and a sociopath/drunk who nobody ever heard of until RHONY.

      I’ll believe Kelly can speak French when I hear her have a full blown conversation and not just a bonjour. She can barely speak English.

      • V-NY says:

        Kelly does have some knowledge in French. She and I were conversing via twitter many months ago after she stated that she was helping her daughter with French homework. She was a model, so she had to know some while working with the French fashion industry.

        • boston02127 says:

          V-NY—There’s a hugh diffrence between having “some knowledge in French” and “being very proud of Kelly for having the ability to speak en francais”

          In school it would be looked upon as passing or failing. Sorry, but I think Kelly would fail miserably.

          • V-NY says:

            She may not be fluent, but I could tell that she was at least proficient en Francais through her tweets and her ability to understand the fortune teller. I consider myself to proficient and I’ve studied it since the second grade all the way to my 3d year in college, with some breaks in between. She has had much more exposure to cultural and vernacular French then me. I’ve only been to France twice; I’ve been to Paris, Toulouse and Marseille since I have have extended family in those areas.
            Either way, Kelly knows more French then Sonja. I am proud of her for allowing herself to shine. Just because she is crazy does not make her a vile and vicous person. She can’t help that, and she needs many years of to release some of her issues.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              Kelly might speak french (which I am still having a hard time believing) but she thinks in Klingon.

              Also, since you are pretty proficient in French what did the psych-ho say to Jill. Luanne’s account and Jill’s are very different.

              Luanne- You have a big mouth and a big heart and the big heart is your weakness.

              Jill- You have such a big heart and it is your strength and this will only get better and better for you.

              Either way, it’s all bullshit.

              • V-NY says:

                hi RR- I couldn’t hear the fortune teller very well when she was talking to LuAnn and Jill. If I catch a rerun I’ll turn the volume up and I’ll let you know exactly what she said. With Ramona’s reading I was able to hear the fortune teller better for some reason. She was less muffled. I have a hard time with muffled French.

                if you heard tu as un grand coeur et tu parles beaucoup-then that means that you have a big heart and you talk too much.

                but il y a une autre femme (there is) or ton mari a une autre femme- or ton epoux a une autre femme -I heard clearly! I can’t recall the exact phrase to Ramona.

                • madison says:

                  I agree with Jill the message was muffled and “There is another woman” was pretty clear. I was surprised that Luann pulled the translation out of her hat so well for Jill’s

            • error404 says:

              “Just because she is crazy does not make her a vile and vicous person”

              ITA. TEh two have nothing to do with each other.

              Vile and vicious is just her basic personality, and as we’ve seen in s4, she’s still the same old mean spirited bitch she always was, just medicated.

              The world is full of mentally ill people who are nice. Kelly just isn’t one of them.

              • ihearttalavera says:

                “The world is full of mentally ill people who are nice. Kelly just isn’t one of them.”

                Amen, Error. A. Men.

            • boston02127 says:

              V–The only thing that shines on Kelly is that greasey forehead of hers.

      • MicheleF. says:

        Kelly married a French guy so of course over the years she had to pick up some French. Like you, Boston, I don’t think this has anything to do with her social status or intelligence for that matter.

        • nathania says:

          exactly.

          many people start speaking french around the age of one or two, if their parents are french. it kind of happens if you are around a language that you pick it up.

    • nathania says:

      I’m sure you are a nice person but reading your posts makes me wonder if someone slipped something into my orange juice.

      • MAMAZ says:

        I can’t stand Kelly but I do think she has social status in NYC. Remember Bethenny telling JZ that Kelly ran with the fabulosity crowd?

        Or at least she did. I would like to think the way she appears on this show would change that. Also her divorce from Gilles Bensimon, who genuinely is someone, is farther back in her past now. As is her “job” at Elle. My guess is that she is losing whatever standing she had and all the foreign languages in the world won’t help her.

        • Getagrip says:

          Bethenny was probably being sarcastic.

          • Sparkles says:

            I don’t think so. Bethenny referred to Kelly as “the real deal” in terms of being part of some fabulous social scene. This was a conversation in the Hamptons where B. was explaining to Jill who Kelly was in advance of their meeting.

      • boston02127 says:

        @nathania…… b-i-n-g-o

    • VAgirl says:

      You are very sweet and naive.

      • MsJxn says:

        While having my nails done yesterday, the girl said she speaks Chinese, (which is definitely more difficult to master unless it your native tongue), Vietnamese, and English; My gardener speaks English and Spanish. I am sure I haven’t seen either of them in my social circle. Kelly’s social circle is mainly 20 somethings, who are easily impressed,..I just don’t think she has the social maturity to maintain any relevant conversation. Thus, showing up 2-3 hours late to events, and always stating that she has to go soon. Also, just because she said she knew what the “fortune teller” said,…she, being the insecure, viscous person that she has shown herself to be (Beth, Sonja’s smelly filthy house, anyone who actually accomplishes anything). She si an aging has-been,..who has the intellect of of a tweenager,..and realizes child support and OWL jewelry will only take her so far!!! LMAO!!!!

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Even if the fortune teller wasn’t a fraud, there is no reason to think that they got it right. Besides – it is possible they were getting the reading from someone in the room, and picking up that they were a lesbian (there is another woman). Probably Cindy or Luann (Luann is known to play on both teams).

      • FayeTQ says:

        You are right about the fortune teller. Remember on RHOBeverly Hills, Allison DuBois said Kyle’s husband was cheating.

  23. boston02127 says:

    ‘Real Housewives of NYC’s’ Ramona Singer: Jill Zarin ‘loves to exaggerate’ her wealth:

    http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2011/05/real-housewives-of-nycs-ramona-singer-jill-zarin-loves-to-exaggerate-her-wealth.html

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      And she keeps it by buying airport koala clips for her girlfriends. I have a hard time with it being her wealth – it is Bobby’s and it was Bobby’s father who started the fabric and real estate purchasing. Jill begged Bobby to expand the retail space and we know how that turned out. Add the moldy book, the bargain basement girdles and I am willing to bet that they are loses as well.
      I love that Ramona calls Jill out on the Zarin financials. Yes Mario has a family business and Ramona has numerous businesses of her own making.

      • Error404 says:

        I have no idea why Jill us obsessed with competing with Ramona. Who cares? No one. But you only have to look at their twohouses to know that r&m have more $$ than j&b. Yeah, bawby sold their wrong neighborhood summer home at the top of the market, but that was 5 years ago. It’s been a “buyer’s market” for years now, so why are they staying in people’s guest rooms?

        • Okie Folkie says:

          Error, was their (j&b’s) Hamptons house “in the wrong neighborhood”? Please do a lil dishin’!

          I’ve never been to the Hamptons and must have missed the info about “the wrong neighborhood”.

          • error404 says:

            tEchnically, it’s not even “the hamptons” which is a southern part of eastern LI along the beach. Jill’s house was in Sag Harbor which is northern LI overlooking the sound/bay not the beach.

            Kelly’s hood is the most sought after, being in East Hampton. Ramoner and Lulu are probably tied, as Lulu’s Bridgehampton place in a little land locked and not close to beach. Ramoner’s South Hampton address is close to beach, but farther from East Hampton scene than Lulu. Cindy’s Quogue address is the lest desirable (relative to RE. I’d kill for any beach house!lol)

            • Okie Folkie says:

              Thanks Error! I cant help but wonder, why Jizz got her Sweezies in a wad when Simon gave that interview that said something about JZ being from Long Island?
              Maybe she was from Quogue??

              • error404 says:

                LOL. No. Long Island is very long east to west. The western end is actually part of NYC (Brooklyn and Queens) and the eastern end is more vacation/beach oriented (Hamptons, Montauck, etc…) but the whole center part went from farmland to super suburbs after WWII with the famous levitt town etc.. It’s all like one big suburban sprawl with many characters like Amy Fisher “the LI Lolita” etc… Jill is from this center middle class generic suburb part, where Cindy is also from. Simon’s dig IMO was mostly about their accents, which most people find harsh.

                • Okie Folkie says:

                  Thanks so much Error! All of your knowledge helps this Okie out so much!
                  I’ve been to NYC but that was a looong time ago.

                  And, how could we forget Amy Fisher the LI Lolita!

                  Regarding their ‘accents’, is it just me, or is LuLu CSBHH showing more of her accent this year? I notice especially when she sez Long Guyland. She used to keep it pretty well ‘hidden’, IMO.

                  And HOW much difference can their accents be, with what 100-200 miles difference (away from Manhatten)?
                  Error to the rescue! Thanks!

                  • dsc60 says:

                    when luann made the dig about ramona’s pronunciation of the location where the grapes for her wine are grown, i think she exaggerated the accent intentionally. idk, she sounds the same to me – unfortunately.

                    • Okie Folkie says:

                      @dsc60 Yeah, that was one of the times I was thinking of, too (when she dissed Ramona fro her pronunciation). But, I have also thought she has been letting her ‘accent’ shine through more this season.

                      I guess it’s just me hearing her differently….

  24. WindyCityWondering says:

    Dear FLG – your take on Cindy’s jewelry choice on the Morocco trip is needed!
    Her necklace looked like chunks of broken concrete (or styraform) spray painted gold. Was it really hers or did she borrow it from her gal pal LuAnn of the bigger is better even if it is fugly school of necklaces?

    • MAMAZ says:

      Cindy dresses the way she thinks hip, young, artistic women dress. But she really dresses the way a middle aged woman who believes she is hip, young and artistic dresses, lol. It’s not the same.

    • FLG says:

      I think LuAnn dropped a few of her Christmas decorations when she moved to her pied a terre and the moving truck ran over them. LuAnn, still had her glue gun out from making her own necklace and glued the smashed pieces together. Since the effect wasn’t 3-D enough for LuAnn to wear, she quickly grabbed the gold spray paint and finished up Cindy’s “welcome to the group” present.

  25. Last night, Jill tweeted a picture of her and LuAnn. Someone tweeted this to her:

    (name deleted) @Jillzarin I love how happy and in love you two are. It gives me hope lol

    This is Jill’s response:

    Thank u. @countessluann has been true friend and doesnt have zero tolerance for her friends

    Is she taking a dig at someone? Who has zero tolerance for their friends? LOL

    • Nancy says:

      Can you re-post that link re: scary Island again? Thanks!

      • I don’t remember posting a link regarding Scary Island. I think someone else did. Was the link posted recently? If it was, I can search previous blogs to find it for you.

        • Smompy says:

          LOL@ LuAnn doesn’t have zero tolerance for friends!

          I agree…another human being acting friendly toward me is something up with which I will not put, either, daaaaarling.

        • Nancy says:

          Someone from yesterday posted it.
          Thank-you for answering me. 🙂

          She said that Bethenny told someone at one of her book signing that they had to put someone in front of Bethenny’s door (at Scary Island) for safety reasons and that Kelly went into a trance and started chanting. She ended with “It was CRAZY”.
          To me that sounds spot on.

  26. MAMAZ says:

    I’m not sure I like Ramona all the time. I do admire certain things about her though. She is strong and independant. I believe she is a good wife and mother. She takes good care of herself and looks healthy and beautiful. But I can’t give her a pass for the often inappropriate and hurtful things she says under the guise of being truthful or because that’s just who she is.

    She knows better. Or at least she should. She is a business woman and a very succesful one at that. She must know how to speak to clients and colleauges. I wish she would be more careful in her personal communications.

    • VAgirl says:

      I feel the same way. I want to like her and I do most of the time, but sometimes I just want to reach in and shake her for some of her comments. You’re right. She should know better.

      • V-NY says:

        I agree with both of you. I do like her, but she just needs to formulate her opinions carefully. She really is caring; she did apologize to kelly even though it was unnecessary.

    • klmh says:

      I agree as well. Pointing out someone else’s faults is not necessary, and we see it all the time with LuAnn. Class and etiquette are are not words that could be associated with either one of these ladies behaviors, although Ramona’s digs are at least honest.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        Isn’t openly correcting someone the way she does considered bad etiquette? It seems like if she truly cared about them, she would point these things out in private to try to help them. Instead she does it on national television so that she appears “up here” and they appear “down there.” The problem is it comes across exactly the opposite.

        • ihearttalavera says:

          Clap, clap. I think I should have said poor etiquette. Sorry dahhhlings.

        • klmh says:

          If I were corrected in the LuAnn manner, my etiquette and class would go out the window, that’s for sure. It is amazing these ladies don’t let her have it. I do love the “dahhhling” from Ramona though.
          With Ramona, she seems more willing to listen but Luann, nope.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            I agree. She’s incredibly self-righteous.

            I did notice that Jill and, I think also, The Beavs were both talking with their mouths full of food at the first lunch in Morocco. I was really hoping Luann was going to say something about that.

            Oh, I also wanted to post a funny quote from the hubs. When Jill said something about traveling thousands of miles and still being able to find someone who hates Ramona he said, “Of course you did because you f’ing brought him, ya dumb b*tch.” He doesn’t watch much, but he’s very wise. 😉

    • error404 says:

      I actually don’t buy for a minute the whole “she doesn’t know how to edit” scenario. Most of her “oopsies” are very stinging digs that make their targets go apeshit batty. Ex: she just happened to casually remark that Alex was much older than Lulu at the Cancer Society (Never at the Cancer Society!”). Lulu’s OTT reaction said it all! Her marriage/meal ticket was crumbling and Ramoner is very smart and above all else, a TV personality. She seems to be one of the few HWs who understands that’s she’s on TV for entertainment purposes. She knew the fake Countess and her fake perfect life was all a sham and she made what could be excused away as a dumb remark but was actually a very calculated and most probably pre-planned dig than just sent Princess Pocahantas Boots over the edge and made sure the otherwise deathly dull charity lunch got televised. I wouldn’t hesitate to be friends with Ramoner because unlike Jill and Lulu I don’t spend 24/7 pretending I’m something I’m not, nor would dump on Ramoner the way Jill and Lulu have been doing since Shed turned the very first camera on.

      I can’t readily think of any of her “insane” moments (Simon coming to girl’s night, Jill insisting on a pro to play tennis with her, Kelly getting her wonky boobs “fixed”, Jill acting up at Jen’s wedding, etc…) that wasn’t simultaniously one of RHNY’s most memorable scenes and humorously true. Even her brutal bridge attack on poor Bethenny had a ring of truth to it.. “media whore” is harsh, but B does live her private life in public and rarely farts without telling the whole world about it. I doubt R was the only person to think B might have planted the pregnancy story herself… the woman took her pregnancy test on camera! lol

      • Jezzibel says:

        I wonder if that is why Luann has been very vicious about going after Ramona this season..is payback for the Cancer Society blowup, she was’nt ready to be outed yet and Ramona just pushed her. Luann held on to the Countless against Mario for a long time as well…so the faux-fortune telling might have been vicious payback against Ramona and Mario by Luann,Jill, and Brad(kelly and cindy are not on that level of manipulation yet..they are little more then growling, snapping attack dogs)

      • Nancy says:

        error,
        ITA My husband is an “older” man as well and I still don’t understand why LuMan was so angry about Ramona’s stating that fact. Unlike LuMan I take it as a compliment. Meaning that he finds me smart and interesting enough to spend his life with me.
        (No smart %#@ jokes people as I know I set myself up here. 🙂

    • housewifeaddict says:

      I agree. She’s be tiresome to be around – however she does know how to get camera time.

      • error404 says:

        I’d be more weary of her competitive streak. I’m sure it befits her in business and all that, but I’d find it tiresome to be around, way more so than the supposidly “unkind” things people say she says. It’s her competitiveness that’s at the heart of her problems with B and why they aren’t closer. Non of the other women on the show seem to even be in her league. If there is one HW who doesn’t really have to worry about finances should her hubby dump her for younger model, it’s R. (Maybe Alex.) Look at the damage divorce has done to Kelly, Lulu, Sonja. If Bawby ever dumped Jill, she’d be screwed. She has nothing of her own. Cindy loves to down play Howie’s role in her “self-made” business. Then again, she acts like her kids were immaculate conceptions, so….

    • FLG says:

      I recognize that Ramona’s comments can be brutal, but at least she isn’t a back stabber! She does say what she thinks to their faces and with several of the girls being so multi-faced, (I can’t say two-faced, some have more than two) sometimes a girl has to do what a girl has to do. Ramona isn’t fake.

    • Getagrip says:

      The scenes of her interviewing for an assistant made me cringe….

      • Mo says:

        I actually thought it was funny, as a viewer. I’ll admit I’m happy I wasn’t on the receiving end, but that’s because I don’t do well with tough personalities so I would sink in the business/fashion world. They probably aired the shiest/most sensitive applicants as well.

        • Getagrip says:

          If you’re on an interview you’re probably not going to tell your potential boss to go f### herself; oh wait…I probably would! 🙂

  27. boston02127 says:

    Ha ha…..wasn’t it just yesterday Jill was bragging about an auction to have lunch with her? Looks like they had to throw in Luann to get a bidder. Jill’s tweet:

    Dinner went for 9000 dollars with @ @countessluann and me. Honored and happy I helped!
    http://yfrog.com/gyhj9xoij
    .
    Imagine paying $9000. for lunch with those 2 snakes. I’d rather starve.

  28. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s tweet~~ So fun seeing @countessluann playing awesome tennis and my @jillzarin who spoils me with attention and @squeezcouture. Beyond hot
    .
    Translation—
    Kelly—-I finally have a friend!
    Jill—-Kelly is an idiot & drives me nuts, but will do anything I say.
    .
    BTW Kelly—Girdles are not hot. Maybe wearing one give you a hot and sweaty feeling but they are certainly not sexy hot, miss trendsetter.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Strange that they are hanging together off season 😦

      @Boston – what if “autre femme” was a reading on Kelly proving that she was another sort of woman – confirming your theories.

    • error404 says:

      Poor Kelly. Her St John breakdown really did a number on her. Remember when she first came on the show and she was this page 6 former celeb-wife who ran down the middle of the street stopping traffic and lived this fabulous life. After 2 years under Jill’s tutilidge, she’s this like pathethetic loser who can’t do any thing right and can’t even decide for herself if she can go on a trip or not without some crazy old broad from Queens who’s never been anywhere telling her what to do. The brunettes all talk down to her like she’s “the other sister” and can’t take care of herself. This show has done so much damage to her reputation, it’s crazier than she is.

      • Jezzibel says:

        and the sad thing is she is not self-aware enough to realize, that any reputation she had before going on this show has been utterly ruined, from now one she will always be the mean BSC housewife who verbally abused(and may have acted physically aggressive towards) her castmates which included one in the early stages of a high-risk pregancy, who had just buried her father.

        • Furalis says:

          I totally agree. When this show started it was so interesting to see how they lived their lives and now it is coming out to be a bunch of lies. Ramona, Alex and Bethenny are the ones with real lives, but the others have nothing – except for Cindy but I never remember her. Would you really like to hang out with them? Look at Canyon Ranch there was nothing. No dancing, no laughter just boring drum rolls and when they asked to say something that no one knows about them they gave blah answers – they can’t even be real with each other.

          I was on line earlier and wondering does anyone know how each woman was cast? I was reading how Jill asked Bethenny to be on the show and that is why she thinks Bethenny owes her, but what about the rest of them. When Jill was crying in the car with LuMann and speaking with Bobby on the cell he said you have done so much for her (Ramona). I would like to know – what? Did Jill suggest Ramona be cast?

          The brunettes all have gone down hill with their reputations and the blondes have real accomplishments, other than Sonja – but you never know.

          • error404 says:

            Jill, Ramona and LuAnn have all know each other socially for years. Bethenny knew Jill but not very well at all. Jill and Alex were the first two signed on and Jill claims to have suggested the other 3 but who knows to what extent she’s exaggerating. We know Bravo already wanted Bethenny even before Jill suggested her, so…. Alex is the only one who had never met anyone of the cast before. Kelly originally said no, before saying yes a year later. Bethenny seems to be the only one she’d ever met before. Sonja also said no before saying yes the 3rd year. She is friends with LuAnn and had been friends with Ramona from long time ago. Cindy doesn’t appear to know any of them other than her brother is dating someone Ramona knows.

            • Furalis says:

              I wonder why Bobby would then say about Ramona how much Jill has helped her. Bizarre.

            • WindyCityWondering says:

              I thought Bobby suggested Bethenny. But we know Jill claimed all of them initially because she was first to get back to the Bravo with her answer!

            • housewifeaddict says:

              Kelly and LuAnn also knew each other a little – remember LuLu introduced her.

              Cindy was friends with Ramona, and Jill was her client.

      • Nancy says:

        error,
        I still don’t get why Kelly went after Bethenny so intensely because Kelly’s inner circle is full of people like Bethenny?
        Is it because it was done on television?

        • Furalis says:

          That’s a really good point why would she go after Bethenny. Did it really just start with the charity and how Bethenny called her Madonna and said she comes from a place of no.

        • quincyil says:

          Bethenny can be abrasive. I think Bethenny did not like Kelly from day one and did not want to film with Kelly. It probably got back to Kelly right away because Jill can’t keep a secret.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            Kelly has always appeared jealous of Bethenny but prior to that I bet she felt they should be friends because they were both single girls.

            • Jezzibel says:

              I think Kelly thought she would come on the show and be the breakout star of it, but Bethenny not only pulled the rug out from under her, but also called her out on her B.S. I think Bethenny realized early on that Kelly was nothing more then the emperors new clothes, all hype with no substance

          • Furalis says:

            So True

        • housewifeaddict says:

          I think that 1) Bethenny didn’t like her before filming, and refused to have anything to do with her, then 2) in the off season when Kelly hit her boyfriend and it went to court, someone leaked a lot of info to the press, and Kelly thought it was Bethenny. She then developed a deep paranoia that Bethenny was out to get her.

          If someone did lead stuff to the press, it was probably Jill.

          • ihearttalavera says:

            I honestly think Kelly went after Bethenny the way she did because Bethenny is more attractive and has an AH-mazing body. No amount of running is going to change Kelly’s linebacker body type.

    • dsc60 says:

      kelly has to wear a girdle? guess she’s gonna have to tell her girls that momma got lazy.

      • dsc60 says:

        bethenny didn’t like kelly from the start. they had met several times in the years prior and kelly never acknowledged her. she acted like she didn’t even know bethenny but bethenny pointed out that they were at a party together and kelly was flirting with her boyfriend.

  29. ihearttalavera says:

    LOVE the photoshop of Bethenny with Lynn in front of Zarin’s. You’re the master, MM!!!

  30. housewifeaddict says:

    I think LuLu will be exposed soon. I’m pretty sure I’ve seem some tweets to that effect by Alex. We know Alex will call her out for being a snake in Morocco – but that might just be the beginning. I hope it’s good ….

    • Nancy says:

      Who do you think Alex is talking about, Ramona?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        IMO – Alex will call Lu out on being in the middle of Ramona and Jill and they all know that Lu kept Jill from making up with Bethenny. A little honest thrown at Lu will be funny!

        • housewifeaddict says:

          Or she might call her out for trying to imply that Ramona is an alcoholic.

  31. Adgirl says:

    Love reading everyone’s comments here. On the Mean Team … ugh. My husband tells me that in the corporate world (he’s a CFO), when you want to “get rid” of a peer or authority figure the FIRST thing you do to undermine them is to mock them. That undercuts any fear or respect of them, and the rest of the group will move away from that person.
    He says it works every single time.

    So Sonja, Ramona Alex … start openly laughing in the Mean Girls faces!!!

    • VAgirl says:

      They are kind of already doing that (hanger-gate they were all smirking at Cindy). They need to do more of that. Laugh everything off. It makes the brunettes look more like the losers they really are. Ramona and Sonya are pretty good at it. Alex is getting there but still tries to reason with them, which doesn’t work 99 percent of the time.

      • error404 says:

        I love the way Ramoner keeps mockingly throwing “dahhhlling” out right to Lulu’s face! lol

        • Furalis says:

          So true dahhhling I just love that.

        • FLG says:

          Notice that Jill (never had an original idea in her life) Zarin even mocked SBHH when she had the snake on her head and said “Daaaahling”. Something tells me Sonja’s not the only one falling off a horse this season. I wonder when Countess SBHH’s showmance is going to be exposed for what it is…..a SHOWMANCE. We’ve already read that there will be a fake proposal coming. Poor PePe du Jacques, I wonder how he gets through that scene without bursting out with laughter or crying???

          • Jezzibel says:

            Is Luann getting alimony..and if she got engaged or married would’nt that affect her alimony?? would’nt it also effect her precious title if she remarried?

            • Getagrip says:

              I think you’re spot-on here and there will be no marriage (unless he’s a duke)

          • housewifeaddict says:

            Maybe he drinks a lot of tequila like Tamra’s fake boyfriend.

  32. Kats2 says:

    Gloomy day in Chi Town so I’m watching BH HW’s. There is just no comparison. BH really reset the bar very high, it’s now the best in the franchise. I’m starting to think the NYC HW’s know it and are trying to compete.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      I cannot wait for the new season!

      • ihearttalavera says:

        The very first time I watched it, I turned to my husband and said the difference with this one is these women really are FILTHY rich. It’s fun to see how these people live.

        I’m also wondering if Leann and Eddie or Kelsey and new wife will watch. I think if I was the new wife, I’d have to sneak a peek!

  33. Stella says:

    I’m watching Law & Order and a developer was killed. During the investigations it was discovered that the developer would buy run down homes and fix it up and flip them for outrageous amounts of money. The scam is that they have an appraiser in the bag would would value the house way more than it was worth and then when someone bought it they would move in and discover that it wasn’t fixed up that they were told. They go broke trying to fix it up and pay the mortgage and the developer walks away with all the money. Aren’t some of our RHONJ husbands developers? Of course I can’t accuse them of doing this but it just made me think… Does that make me terrible that my mind automatically went to those guys?

  34. HeyAll says:

    Is tonight the OC episode where Jeanna gets a drink thrown in her face as well as a shove?…imagine if there was a pool behind her and she ended up inside. Andy would be in heaven.

    • quincyil says:

      Lynn said there was no OC tonight.

    • Kats2 says:

      It’s on tonight, according to TV Guide, No WWHL but the OC is on again according to the TV Guide

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I thought she did get pushed in a pool? Maybe I just heard someone threaten it.

      I wonder if they will show Eddie ‘NoH8’ repeatedly calling Jenna’s friend Ben a “FF”. If not, I wonder how many guys in the editing bay Tamra had to blow to keep it on the DL

      • housewifeaddict says:

        Really, I thought his best friend (Tamra’s business partner) was gay and he was friends with Fernanda. That really surprises me that he would do that.

  35. PF says:

    maybe it was the camera man, with the hangars, in Cindy’s room to start some ‘scary desert’ drama…hehe

  36. Kats2 says:

    I’ve been thinking about the NYC HW Reunion, with Kelly’s man shoulders, Cindy’s big teeth, Jill’s big mouth, and Luann’s huge ego how will they all fit on one sofa?

    • FLG says:

      They won’t. Andy will bring in a big sand box for Kelly to make sand angels in, while a bale or two of hay (w/no pistachio hulls) should keep Clarabelle occupied. Those two wouldn’t have anything important to say anyway.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      They will all wear Jill’s squeezers and then they will all fit on one sofa no problem.

      • FLG says:

        Maybe they will have Cat O just off stage to help deflate Countess Squash Blossom High Horse’s ego. I know Cat said that she never wanted to see LuAnn again, but maybe they can put Cat in a room with a microphone…..she won’t have to see her that way! I don’t think Jillzy’s skwishware comes in a large enough size for LuAnn and LuAnn’s ego to fit into.

  37. quincyil says:

    I think Luann is engaged to Jaques. It would not be normal to claim you were in love as she does if she did not have a committment from him. If they were just dating, she might be rejected a second time in the show and that would be humiliating.

    Plus… I am your unofficial pretend soothsayer…. and I am getting strong vibes from NYC on this issue.

    • Kats2 says:

      It’s for the love of a green card.

    • housewifeaddict says:

      If she was in love, you’d think she’s be paying attention to her own business rather than sticking her nose where it doesn’t belong. On the other hand she may feel empowered and full of herself.

      She gets on my last nerve.

      • ihearttalavera says:

        You know what I wonder about is how all of the women comment how in love with Luann Jacque is, but I don’t see it. I know we only see bits and pieces but it just doesn’t come through on screen to me. Maybe it’s just the fact that he can stomach being around her on a regular basis?

      • FLG says:

        Any idea when her alimony runs out?

        • Stella says:

          No idea but I think she would only marry J if her alimony ran out. On another note, before I went to Italy I wanted to have a shirt made that said “Need greencard? Apply within” I didn’t do it though, I probably would have ended up with someone as creepy seeming as LuAnn’s Jacques.

      • Nancy says:

        Someone needs to wipe that %&$#@ smirk off her face.
        I cannot stand this “woman”!

        • MAMAZ says:

          If she remarries she loses her title.
          As for the Green Card, not everyone wants to move to the US. The French are notoriously nationalistic.

          • FLG says:

            I’m sure Jacques already has his green card. He is employed in the USA. If he owns the wine distribution company (or a significant portion) he probably falls under resident investor status.

            • Kats2 says:

              Well he doesn’t love her for her personality

              • ihearttalavera says:

                Or her IQ. Remember last week when she said, “If Ramona behaves this way on the trip, she won’t be coming with us.” Um, what?

      • dsc60 says:

        “He’s going to ask her to marry him in a scene that will air next season.” LuAnn’s rep said”

        next season? isn’t she counting her chickens a wee bit here?

  38. BT says:

    I was watching the repeats of NYHW the other day and remembered how smart and witty Avery was for her age. I can tell Ramona & Mario adore her.

    • Nancy says:

      Avery has so much class for being so young. Ramona & Mario have raised one beautiful (inside & out) daughter. 🙂

      • boston02127 says:

        I think so too. I luv Avery.

      • nathania says:

        she really does.

        in contrast I looked at the photo of Luann’s daughter, that is looking like trouble with a capital ‘T’ and a future Mommie Dearest book in the making.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Yes, she seems very wise beyond her years. An old soul.

  39. Arya Stark says:

    A few good links. I think Sonja was FAR richer than all these bitches a few years ago. This is a photo of just ONE of their houses. It’s an absolute dream. That doesn’t even count the Europe houses and the yacht. Wow. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27332539@N07/3106239926/ I would love that!

    (Maybe that is why Jill is reluctant to brand Sonja the alcoholic, in spite of her DUI and that she is the one who seems drunk, not Ramona. Oh, and Jill is “getting even” for Ramona screaming at her during the reunion, and throwing her off the island. Jill may be one of the most vengeful, childish, greedy, fake bitches ever. )

    An old article about Sonja, talks about her before and after marriage days. http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/node/1020955

    Old but talks about a tour guide interviewed for the gig in Morocco, and what we will not see. Boo. http://www.tourguidemarrakech.com/news001.htm

    Alex article http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-05-25/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-citys-alex-mccord-lets-loose/

    Entertainment Weekly: http://tvrecaps.ew.com/recap/real-housewives-new-york-morocco/

    Vulture: http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/05/real_housewives_of_new_york_ci_15.html

    NY Daily News: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2011/05/27/2011-05-27_real_housewives_of_new_york_episode_8_ramona_and_sonja_turn_into_a_twoheaded_mor.html

    Sneak Peak at the dresses that guy designed for them? (or pulled off the rack and tailored?) http://crabbygolightly.com/mt/2011/05/ugly_americans_a_real_housewiv.html

    The blond vs brunette fabrication: http://blog.chron.com/tubular/2011/05/real-housewives-of-new-york-no-wire-hangers/

    Stoopid Housewives: http://stoopidhousewives.com/2011/05/28/real-housewives-of-new-york-recap-season-4-episode-8-part-i/

    Have fun!

    • Arya Stark says:

      Hope this post shows up soon! I think I added too many links. Sorry Q and Lynn!

      • Arya Stark says:

        This is one of the links in my comment that is awaiting moderation because I think I added too many all at once. Anyway, check out the designer dresses here

        Sneak Peak at the dresses that guy designed for them? (or pulled off the rack and tailored?) http://crabbygolightly.com/mt/2011/05/ugly_americans_a_real_housewiv.html

        They look better on the taller ladies, as Ramona suspected they would.

        • Arya Stark says:

          Could they have made Ramona look any worse if they tried harder?

          Such BS. The brunettes ALL got the best dresses. Oh BRAVO, you seriously SUCK. Gosh, lemme guess? Ramona doesn’t care for her dress, the ungrateful drunk/ugly American snob?

          • FLG says:

            Ramona’s needs to go IMMEDIATELY to Ebay…..or maybe she could make Kelly some more pillows for her sofa? Kelly likes really BIG pillows…………..

            • Arya Stark says:

              Who would buy it?

              You can’t tell me this wasn’t more of Bravo’s set up.

              Oh, in one of the links above that is awaiting moderation someone says that they put the brunettes in a white limo and the blonds in a tacky van for the trip to the hotel. Want to bet they took the longest and ugliest route for the blonds? Also, one author said that the brunette’s flight was super luxe with sleeping compartments. The blonds, while nice, traveled considerably less “luxe.”

              Such a set up from start to finish.

              The brunettes obviously got the only nice designs. So tired of this Bravo.

          • MsJxn says:

            ITA!!!!!! What an OBVIOUS set up!!! and the caftans that were form fitting were brunettes only!! Ramoner’s is EVERY detail of what she did not want!!! Well, designer dude,….I hope Jillous and discount paid you well for the business you just lost!!!!

        • error404 says:

          OMG those are seriously the ugliest dresses I’ve seen in along time! LOL The only one that even looks like a dress is Cindy BarStool’s, and that’s only because she looks like Tara’s alter who’s the jewish therapist trapped in the 70s. 😛

          • FLG says:

            Well, Cindy having such a striking resemblance to Clarabelle, I imagine something designed for a camel would have the best chance of looking good on her! And no offense, but if that guy is the BEST designer in Morocco……what would other lesser designers have come up with?

        • HeyAll says:

          I’m not sure I like any of those dresses. They don’t seem specially tailored to fit, wasn’t he taking their measurements?

          • Arya Stark says:

            I think the brunettes definitely got the most flattering and detailed dresses.

            Better fitted.
            Better fabric.
            Better detailing.
            More flattering designs.

            Alex is able to carry hers off but it’s practically a count dracula dress. Sonja’s has NO shape and very little detailing. Ramona’s is a baggy sac designed to make her look as dumpy as shapeless and old as possible.

            Ramona’s dress is something you give someone who is 80 years old, and even then? She wouldn’t wear it. PREDICTION: Ramona is ungrateful and bitchy about her “gift.”

            • TLM says:

              Ramona deserved whatever she got. She rudely told the designer to go put wood on their fire in the fireplace, and then was bitching about was he going to write each of their names on the designs. The only way she could have been more offensive would have been to go around with that dumb glazed smile and her crazy eyes saying, “Don’t they call French people frogs? Isn’t that because they eat frog legs? What? Why is that offensive? Who cares? Who cares?”

              She’s a rude idiot.

          • Arya Stark says:

            Wow. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27332539@N07/3106239926/

            Sonja really was much richer than the others. No wonder she misses it all. This is just ONE of their houses.

            Yeah, she just married it, much like Jill, Lulu, and Kelly. But she obviously hit the jackpot, while others had to sleep with other ugly, winkled, saggy butts old men who had much less money.

            Jill would be totally team-Sonja if Sonja was still married. So would Luann. Probably Kelly as well. 4 women who know how to smell and follow the money.

            • FLG says:

              Jillzy’d better start going door to door if she’s ever going to live in anything like that! Bawby, how much life insurance are we carrying on you? You ARE calling the agent on Tuesday and increasing it. (Hey Vicky, here’s a customer for you!)

            • MsJxn says:

              Absolutely,…and both being Ex’s and Jillousy, will never bash Sonja. That is the ONLY reason discount took up for her about the house,..and Koolilly is too stupid to realize. Sorry but even being the Ex of a Morgan is far better than anything the rest of the B’s could ever hope for.

          • MsJxn says:

            Oh, yes,…discount’s does,…..hummmmm!!

        • ForReality? says:

          Yikes & holy cow. I would never buy anything from that designer. Is he supposed to be one of the best?

          • Arya Stark says:

            The brunette’s dresses are kind of beautiful, especially Kelly’s and Luann’s.

            I can’t see them wearing them very often though.

            The blond’s dresses, especially Ramona’s (surprise surprise and thanks Lulu and Jill!) is just awful. She could have gone to any store in Morocco and found a better one for under $20. Maybe less.

            So, did Ramona know this was all a set up and that is why she tried to tell the designer that boxy and full doesn’t work on her short and tiny frame? I think she may have realized that the brunettes were going to make her look ridiculous and tried to stop it.

            Unsuccessfully.

        • FLG says:

          WOW, Countess finally found a full length necklace!

  40. lillybee says:

    Lulu complains about Alex’s outfit for the camel riding (I thought that she looked fine) but she ignores Cindy’s ugly short-shorts.

    • Arya Stark says:

      Alex was dressed intelligently for a desert ride. Jill looked like a plumper Barney. The short-shorts were inappropriate and stupid. Notice how Bravo focused in on Ramona just bringing hers along. It shall be interesting to see if they mock/ugly American Cindy in the same way.

      I doubt it. This is all about making the blonds look as bad as possible.

  41. Stella says:

    Totally different topic but there was once a report that said that having sexual relations 3 times a week can extend your lifespan. My question is, does that make prostitutes caregivers. Can you imagine the answers people would fill in on applications that ask for Primary Health Care Privider?

    • FLG says:

      ROFL…..I always thought they put entertainer as their job description if they file taxes….

  42. FLG says:

    OT- Did anyone else see the article about Victoria’s sweet sixteen birthday party? Seems SBHH’s gifts were brought back from the Morocco trip. A beautiful handmade bag and JEWELRY (now that part scares me). It further says Victoria already has a car, but still needs to get her driver’s permit. I don’t guess there will be a big rush for that since she’s going off to Paris to “study Art”. From the guests listed, it seems the blondes weren’t invited…… http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/exclusive-photos-nyc-housewife-countess-luann-de-lesseps-throws-her-daughter-a

  43. error404 says:

    Despite team-mousy-brown-with-some-grey’s attempts to make us discuss Ramona’s cheating hubby and alcoholism, I want to revisit the elephant in the room: Kelly’s mental illness.

    Remember the really weird story she told at the spa about how freaked out she was about being a mom and how scared she always was? Maybe it was just PPD. Personally, I suspect she’s struggled with mental illness her entire adult life, and I doubt it’s gone all these years undiagnosed.

    If she failed to tell Bravo before she was hired, that alone may be cause to break her contract.

    Then there is the whole issue of St John and how scared everyone was.. cast and crew alike. How could an employer NOT be justified in making the workplace safe for their employees?

    And sorry, but failing to rehire someone is not the same are firing them. I really don’t see how she has even a tenuous hold on any law suit. They don’t have to rehire any cast, even if they simply decide they don’t like their hair.

    No, I think Andy rehired her because St John got everyone talking and you can’t buy that kind of buzz. Then they sent her to Morocco in hopes of another breakdown. Seriously, why else would they ask her to go? She obviously isn’t well enough to travel, or really to stay in any one place longer than an hour. She is like a caged animal and panics whenever she can’t find the exit. It must be a new crew because no way would I go on another trip with the same woman who had to be escorted home the last time.

    • FLG says:

      How is it that Kelly (I always need an out) was able to stay at Brad’s birthday party with all the snake handling going on? Frankly, I can’t even attend a church service in Southern Kentucky (no offense Southern Kentucky) where that kind of thing goes on. I freak, scream like a girl and run when I see the occasional striped racer going through our back yard. Add anything with venom and I’m off, into the car and evacuating the neighborhood. I wait until hubs has done a complete one mile radius search before coming home.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      “team-mousy-brown-with-some-grey’s”

      Hahahhahahaha.

  44. Getagrip says:

    I just found this site after reading a tweet…hilarious! Jill is so pathetic it’s hysterical. She is such a snake and a victim at the same time! No great loss for Bethenny, my favorite HW ever! I’m so glad she got off the show and went out on her own; I just love her shows and am so glad she’s made such a success for herself. Jill Zarin should be so lucky to kiss her hiney!
    Ramona does rule and it’s drivin’ the brunettes nuts! I wonder when they’ll figure out that there’s no getting the better of her; their attempts are too funny! Anyway, love this blog and plan to check back on it in the future.

  45. Arya Stark says:

    Reposting in smaller bits, since the other one had too many links.

    Two more interesting articles about the show.

    The blond vs brunette fabrication: http://blog.chron.com/tubular/2011/05/real-housewives-of-new-york-no-wire-hangers/

    Stoopid Housewives: http://stoopidhousewives.com/2011/05/28/real-housewives-of-new-york-recap-season-4-episode-8-part-i/

    • Arya Stark says:

      Oh, and so it won’t get lost, be sure to look upthread for the designer dresses photo!

    • Getagrip says:

      Thanks for the links…too funny! I’m a little under the weather today and this site has had me laughing for hours!

  46. Smompy says:

    Lynn, that photo made my day! Too funny.

    What I’ve never understood is why these women continually put up with LuAnn’s passive-aggressive BS. It’s baffling to me that they let her say whatever she has to say without coming back at her with anything substantial. They just keep trying to be nice no matter what she’s just said to OR about them. Maybe they’re trying to make sure they look ladylike on camera or something? They almost always hold their tongues even after LuAnn deliberately attacks them over and over again. It doesn’t seem likely they’d be all that concerned about appearing ladylike, considering the various embarrassing things I’ve watched all these women do over the years, but that’s really the only explanation I can come up with.

    One of my all time favorite moments in Housewives history was when Bethenny put LuAnn in her place at that fashion show….despite the fact that it was widely (and falsely) reported Bethenny had “acted like a crazed animal.” To watch LuAnn, FOR ONCE, being shut down by someone who was simply but firmly telling her the truth about her own behavior, and by someone who refused to be shut up or distracted by LuAnn’s standard tactics, was….just…..magnificent. The way LuAnn was shaking and finally found herself at a loss for words was, for me at least, better than sex. (Well, depending on who the sex was with, of course.) The worst LuAnn could do at that point was to pitifully spit out, “she called me a skank,” and even that was shot down when Bethenny calmly responded that, no, she had actually called LuAnn a shark, not a skank. I tell ya, I was in heaven right then. So, tell me please, why the hell can none of these other chicks EVER shut that bitch down??? It’s soooooo frustrating to me the way they all let her walk all over them.

    In all seriousness, I would never advocate violence in any form, but if someone in MY circle acted toward me the way LuAnn acts toward others, and I was unable to respond to her malice with some choice words of my own, I think I might just lose it and punch her in the face. I’m not sure I could stop myself. So, Ramona or Alex, will one of you PLEASE tell that woman to shut the fuck up, stop pretending she’s a respectable European noblewoman or and Indian Princess & not just the phony, pretentious slut from New Berlin, Connecticut that we all know she is, and therefore she needs to mind her own GD business??? Please tell her this just once? Either that or just deck the bitch.

    Would it help these gals to accomplish this goal if we all took up a collection, do you suppose? ‘Cause I’ll happily donate to the Smack Down LuAnn Fund! And I know money is generally a pretty good incentive for Ramona. When it comes to something like this, I’ll bet Sonja could be bought too. Just sayin’.
    🙂

  47. TLM says:

    They’re running RHOBH today with Camille and her breakup. Good God, I want to sock that woman in the jaw every time I hear her grating, whining, kvetchy voice which half the time is praising herself at Saint Camille, and the rest of the time is hurling vicious insults at others and giggling about it. I guess I’m still not sorry that Kelsey dumped that skanky ho. 🙂 Though I loathe Patti Stanger, I will copy one of her phrases and say that this woman does not deserve love and deserves to be alone for the rest of her life.

    And she absolutely, no question, set up Kyle to be attacked by that piece of ****, loser, poser Allison Dubious. Fed her all the liquor she needed to be extra venomous and then let everything fly.

    I hope her little boy toy told her to f**k off as well.

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Did you see the reunion show? Camille was incredibly apologetic and humble. I HATED her the entire season, but I think she may have been genuinely humbled by her divorce. Can’t wait for S2 to find out for sure.

      • MsJxn says:

        No,…I think she hired PR ppl,….like,.*.Humcough*,…I think the cameramen were,…um MEN,…because she friggen acted/was “gasmic,(for her) talking heads,……when she was around the other women at the reunion,..and Andy,….and knew by then how she had really looked,…..well,..anything else would have seemed redeemable,…..also,…she really has $$$ for PR ppl….and having been around acting,…you know!!

  48. Laura says:

    If this has already been asked and answered, I apologize in advance….

    Has anyone else noticed that the OC Housewives are NOT in the new summer commercial on Bravo? Does anyone know why they weren’t included???

    • MsJxn says:

      Wow,…..good catch,…guess they got eaten by the shark!!!! No one noticed,..LMAO!!!

  49. Laura says:

    Okay let me try this again, for some reason my post went way up thread….

    Has anyone else noticed that the OC Housewives are not in the new Summer Bravo commercial? All the other cities are there but not Orange County….does anyone know why???

    • VAgirl says:

      Maybe because they aren’t part of the Summer lineup? Their show is over next week.

      • Laura says:

        Good point…but then neither is Bethenny and I’m pretty sure I saw her in there too….thanks VAgirl….I shoulda thought of that lol

  50. Smompy says:

    Hmmmmm, my violent rant against LuAnn seems to have disappeared. Probably just as well, as it’s out of my system now anyway.

    But speaking of Lulu, did anybody else find it funny when she trashed Ramona’s dress? I mean, the mean things LuAnn said about the dress weren’t actually funny, of course, but it was funny to me that she was trashing a dress that was made by the same designer whose dresses LuAnn had just bitched to Ramona about not being allowed to wear. So you HATE this designer’s work, LuAnn, but you’re still pissed off that he let’s Ramona wear his stuff and not you???

  51. Kats2 says:

    Luann’s bf is not attractive at all.
    And why is there going to be another season of these bitches?

  52. LynnNChicago says:

    https://lynnnchicago101.wordpress.com/2011/05/29/i-hate-jill-zarin-watch-what-happens-live-second-posting/

    This board is difficult to load and some posts are not going into the right threads.

    Second postings and more space to chat!

    Q

  53. PJ says:

    I don’t for one second believe Barhop’s story about someone stealing her hangers. She seems to have embellished the story from the time it happened to the time she wrote her blog. When it happened I don’t recall Barhop saying her clothes were on the floor just that her hangers were missing. Now after the fact in her blog she says her room was basically ransacked. Which one is it?

    • ihearttalavera says:

      Even if it did really happen, how embarrassing for a grown woman to act this way. How about simply calling the front desk and asking for more? Is she really that desperate to be on camera that she is going to make a scene over this??? It’s called pride, Beavs, you should locate yours.

    • nathania says:

      that’s a pretty sad commentary on your fashion sense if someone breaks into your room to steal your clothes and they are so effing ugly that they only take coat hangers instead.

  54. jeepers1941 says:

    For the life of me, why doesn’t BRAVO just put them in a boxing ring and let them have at one another. I am so disgusted with all this BS, if I was put in this type of situation, I would tell BRAVO to stick it up their ass. My God, how much more crap can they come up with. The sad part about it is, I keep coming back, and that really pisses me off to no end. I will be so glad when this show is over and done with. I am sure I will not have withdrawls from it like I am with Bethenny’s show. I mean I have even got to the point I am not liking any of them, well except for Alex, but even Ramona is starting to wear on me too. Sonja is just Sonja and she is hurting from all her problems since her divorce. She just can’t seem to start anew. I was married to a wealthy man for 15yrs and when it was over, I learned to live within my means. You can get by with less and have much more, believe me. I’d like to see her go from 150K a yr to 13K and love every minute of it……………. 🙂

    • ihearttalavera says:

      “The sad part about it is, I keep coming back, and that really pisses me off to no end. I will be so glad when this show is over and done with.”

      Jeepers, I’m right there with you. I’m counting the days until Bravo sets me free. 😉

      • jeepers1941 says:

        HERE HERE

      • FlowerPower says:

        Me too! I thought I could not watch at all, but I find myself pulled back every time….even though I don’t always make it all the way through the episode. This time I deleted it maybe halfway, but I know I’ll be recording the next one anyway.

  55. jeepers1941 says:

    I have 4 addictions, smoking, food, gambling and these stupid HW franchises, all of which are annoying and disgusting things, but by God I sware, if I ever get hooked on any more of these damn shows, someone should just shoot me and put me out of my mersery(sp)? What a dumbass I am for watching this shit……….. 😀

  56. FlowerPower says:

    Quick thank you for all the positive vibes/good wishes/prayers for our little one. It can be stressful on her (she’s only two), but she handles it all really well. Since she has a chronic condition we just hope for the best. She’s doing really well (next surgery is in July).

    Shocked at how busy the board got today! (Love it and ROFLMAO.) Was trying to find good video of Morocco online. I really want to see more of the country (and less of the countess). Rick Steves had one video on Hulu about Tangier. I don’t travel (unless watching The Amazing Race counts… No?) but I would love to see these places.

  57. shanna says:

    Oh you guys-I love you guys! Really, I am amazed at the wit, intellect et al, but the compassion y’all show for each other touches my heart. I had to stop reading after the grandma mentioned her beloved granddaughter-I too pray for her and her entire family….now I’m getting juicy eyes-but really….this is just such a great site….love the blogs Q&L, but I have to say, what a positive thing y’all got going here-and I am greatful I found it!

  58. Vesper says:

    Raise your hand if you were completely shocked that Kelly speaks French!! That shocked me! That’s HOT! 😉 (gag) As much as I wanted to slap her for her nastiness about Sonja’s home, Kel is as bad a hypocritical bitch as they come, but I did love the way she called Cindy out on her bullshit story about how she sings to the twins on the phone and then they cry. It was hilarious the way she kept harping at Cindy about it. Why do they cry? How do you know they cry? Who tells you this?

    God, I can’t take Cindy much longer. Everything about her annoys me! The whining, her Long Island accent, the way she pronounces her G’s, her Debbie the Downer cloud hovering over her, her cattiness, her cringing face, her complaining, her weirdness, her clothes, HER TEETH!! I seriously can’t believe this woman owns a chain of businesses, let alone has a job. She really seems like an idiot to me.

    At this point Jen Gilbert is looking good to me.

    Ramona’s best comment regarding Cindy: “Of course we are talking about you, you dumb fool, you are acting like an asshole”. Hahaha

    • sue says:

      I wrote this in the wrong place earlier, but we were wondering, would anyone agree that RHONY are trying to be somewhat like RHOBH? We think “the fake fortune teller” prophesy is going to turn out to be that she was really “head tapping Sonja” and the other woman is going to be Kelly messing around with Brian (Sonja’s artist friend). I mean they went as far as copying Sex And The City 2, is it that far fetched to think they would do that?

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