I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of New Jersey / Platinum Hits / What Is The Zarin Family Trust?

I Hate Jill Zarin  The Real Housewives of New Jersey / Platinum Hits / Kelly’s Summer Holiday  / The Zarin Family Trust 

The Real  Housewives of New Jersey by LynnNChicago

Ladies and Gentlemen, the world as we know it is coming to an end.  Teresa Guidice is smarter than someone, she claims to be smarter than her brother which would make him a walking talking Ape.  (no, he’s not!)  Teresa can’t speak proper English, she can’t listen and she certainly ain’t no author!

You guys are going to love this, Teresa complains that she can’t communicate with her brother so she talks to Caroline and Jacqueline about it because you know, they are her family now.  She refuses to listen, Caroline talks and Teresa just speaks over her explaining the situation that everyone already knows.

Teresa Giudice introduces herself as an author, offends the chef who really created the dishes in her cookbook while butchering the English language.  Yes, you read it right, she introduces herself as an “author” yet says, “Ingredients’s” not once but twice.  She thinks cumin is an exotic spice, and has no idea how to pronounce it.  (come-in)  Yes folks, she wrote a cookbook full of ingredients’s!  (Ingredientses or is it Ingredients’s?)   Tonight we caught a few glimpses of the real chef who created Teresa’s recipes in her cookbook.  I hope those of you who bought her book ask for your money back because there is no way in hell that this woman wrote a book.  I don’t believe for a minute that she created those recipes.

We learned that the Gorga family has a strong sex drive as we watched Joe Gorga chase his wife around their huge closet.  Teresa is picking out sexy clothes for her husband so I guess it is in their blood.  I wonder if the excessive sex drive causes brain cells to melt? It was nice to see Joey Gorga complimenting his wife the way he did and it is clear that he adores her.  We don’t see him telling his wife to “shut the hell up” the way Joe Giudice does.

In other New Jersey news, Caroline’s two son’s moved out.  Her daughter Lauren is feeling left out so she wants to move out too.  Kathy’s husband got her a new Mercedes because Teresa and Caroline were rude to her.  Jacqueline found another fortune teller who watches Bravo and Jacqueline’s father is a smart guy.  What is it with these housewives and fortune tellers?  They claim to be Catholic yet go to a fortune teller, Jacqueline’s told her that Ashley is sad and Teresa is mad, it would take only one episode to come up with that prediction.

Jacqueline was really cute on tonight’s episode, she helped the Manzo boys move into their new apartment and told viewers she gave them a stripper pole for their new place, then said she was a “cool aunt”.  Yes, it was a joke.

Teresa’s attempts at writing a letter to her brother were completely comical and poor Jacqueline had to sit through the entire process while trying to care for her 1-year old baby and her advice was falling on deaf ears anyway.  Teresa’s first attempt was pretty generic and Jacqueline tried to tell her that she needs to let the letter reflect that she understands how Joey feels.  It was like talking to a brick wall, Teresa is so self-centered that she can’t see that her brother is hurting too.  She takes no responsibility for anything only says that her brother hurt her.  Teresa is never going to get it.  Teresa says that her brother better change or she won’t be reconciling with him then in the next sentence she says she doesn’t want to force her brother to change.  She doesn’t even know what the hell she’s talking about.

Joey Gorga has more sense than Teresa, his sister hurt him but he also recognizes that she is hurt as well.  Melissa has more sense than both of them.  She encourages Joey to talk to Teresa.  Melissa recognizes that her children should be playing with Teresa’s children and that they’re both going to have to forgive and forget, literally let it go and move forward.

Joey says that if his sister continues to behave the way she has been, he’s not interested in making peace with her, he wants his “old” sister back.  Teresa doesn’t even understand that she hurt her brother, she’s never going to be able to fix anything.  The entire thing seems doomed.

Kathy visited Caroline to try to explain what happened at the Fashion Show, I didn’t really understand why Kathy felt the need to put her tail between her legs and sit on Caroline’s couch like she was waiting for a doctor’s appointment yet there she was.  Caroline was rude and acted superior, she basically said that she didn’t care what was going on in the Gorga family yet she continues to stick her nose in their business.  I hope Kathy realizes now that she doesn’t need to appease Caroline Manzo for any reason!

Caroline confronted Kathy at the Fashion Show even when she didn’t know this woman at all, had no idea what had happened or what the argument was about.   Is anyone else sick of Caroline’s superior attitude?  She forces her advice on everyone and thinks that she does no wrong.  Caroline is acting as if she’s loyal to Teresa when we all know that underneath it all Caroline cannot stand Teresa.

I believe that if Caroline didn’t have two attractive son’s she wouldn’t be on the show anymore, she is so boring!  She has absolutely no credentials to give anyone else advice yet Bravo gave her an advice blog and she’s let it go to her head.   Anyone with a Tivo or a DVR, feel free to zoom past Caroline’s scenes, you will have missed nothing and saved yourself a lot of annoying nonsense.

We saw Jacqueline’s daughter Ashley for just a few minutes tonight.  As Jacqueline talked about Ashley’s problems with her father, we got to see a replay of the spoiled brat crying because she has to get up so early to get to her non-paying job and wants her parents to rent her an apartment in New York.  The ironic part is that if the kid went to work every day on time they probably would have gotten her that apartment, or they wouldn’t have needed to, she would have gotten a paid position and be able to get her own apartment.  Who is going to help this girl when she won’t put forth even a little bit of effort?  She refuses to listen to her parents, she just keeps saying that they don’t understand.

Unfortunately Jacqueline is feeling guilty because she and Ashley’s father divorced leaving her in the middle of two families.  Ashley’s father re-married and had children in Texas and of course Jacqueline did the same in New Jersey.  Ashley doesn’t feel like she’s a real part of either family.  Ashley tears up as she tells us that one of her brothers in Texas is pretty good at football but she’s never able to go to his games.

We’ve been watching Ashley be rude to her parents for three years now, she isn’t learning anything and she isn’t getting any younger.  When will it sink in with this kid?  She sees the way her Manzo counterparts behave and how they’re getting ahead in life, she wants an apartment and sees the Manzo boys getting theirs.  We know she watches the show so why not try to emulate Lauren, Albie and Chris?  This girl wants it all without working for it, like many teenagers she has no idea how the world works.  I hope she gets it someday.  Until then I hope that Bravo keeps her off of our TV screens as much as possible.

Hours later Teresa finishes the letter as Jacqueline wakes up and Caroline has to shave her face again.  Teresa decides to hand deliver the letter but no one is home at the Gorga residence so she leaves it in the door.

Melissa and Joey return home and find the letter, unfortunately Joey isn’t too excited to find correspondence shoved into his door particularly from his sister.  Apparently he reads as well as his sister writes and he refuses to read it so Melissa reads it to him.  Joey is not touched or impressed by Teresa’s gesture and tells his wife that he isn’t interested in talking to Teresa unless she’s willing to change.  I have to admit Joey’s got a point, we’ve all watched Teresa change over the past three years, she’s not the same person we met season one, episode one and I sincerely doubt that these changes took her family relationships in a good direction.

Teresa was on screen talking about how the Manzo’s and Laurita’s are her family and she chose a Godmother for her baby from a TV show, she picked Dina Manzo because she thought it would secure her more firmly in the Manzo family and endear her to fans.  We learned that Teresa shunned her brother and sister-in-law during family functions especially when Bravo’s camera’s were rolling.  I firmly believe that Teresa was afraid to let viewers and producers see Melissa and Joey for fear of exactly what did happen, they were cast on HER show and she’s not happy about it.

Teresa didn’t want Melissa and Kathy cast on the show proving that Teresa’s priorities are completely out of wack!  These women are her family, shouldn’t she be proud and happy to have them join her on the show?  It is so obvious that Teresa is jealous of Melissa, she claims that the problems between her and her brother began when Joey married Melissa yet Joey says that the problems started when Teresa changed just a few years ago.  (when Teresa started on RHONJ and chose a new family over her own)  Joey and Teresa don’t even know what the other one is angry about.  Joey doesn’t know Teresa is jealous of his wife, I’m sure Teresa hid it well for years.  Teresa doesn’t know that Joey feels like he’s been shunned since she started on the show.

I look at it this way, obviously Joey and Melissa wanted to be on the show so why would Teresa be so against it?  Caroline and Dina did the show together, they had each other’s back and it was at least one housewife on the show that you knew would never stab you in the back.  The fact that Teresa didn’t want Melissa on the show is very telling, she should have been happy that her only brother was joining her cast but instead she fought against the casting of Melissa.  The same holds true for her cousin Kathy, Teresa should have been thrilled to have family joining her.

Next week, Thanksgiving and the two households have very different celebrations.  While Joey and Melissa Gorga host many friends and relatives, Teresa and Joe Giudice host the Manzo’s and the Laurita’s.  It certainly looks like a “made for TV” Thanksgiving at the Giudice house.

Credit: Boston02127

Thanks to Boston02127 for the hysterical photos!


Platinum Hits by Quincy IL

This summer, Bravo is presents another competition series.  This time we are going to watch contestants create music.  The Judges are Jewel, Karen DioGraurdi..  Jewel acts as hostess each week also. 

The Contestants are Sonyou Elisi, Scotty Granger, Nick Nittoli, Nevin James, Mellissa Rapp, Karen Waldrup, Johnny Marnell, Jes Hudak, Jackie Ton, Blessing Offon, Brian Judah and Amber Ojeda.

The formula for the series will be similar to that of Top Chef.  There will be a Quick Fire/Quick Challenge followed by the preparation of a meal/entire song.  The prize is 100,000 dollars, a contract with Sony and a course at BMI for song writers. Each week there is a winning team and a winner chosen. There is also a losing team and someone is sent home.  Jewel is the hostess.

In the first part, we see the contestants meeting each other for the first time and we listen to them say something about themselves in interviews.  Nick considers himself a musical genius.  Nevin’s music is a reflection of himself. Sonyou had the energy to make music from the time she was 5 years old. Blessing and his guide dog meet fellow contestants. He explains that he lost his vision at 9 years old so he put the energy that he would have used for basketball into his music. Johnny is a computer nerd. Jes had few friends in high school. Karen is Southern.

They meet for inspiration in the Songwriter’s hall of fame with Jewel. She explains that the Quick Challenge will ask them to create a hook about the City of Angels/LA.  The four top hooks will advance and the teams created will use the hooks to create a complete song in 8 hours.

Each of the contestants will work on their pieces.  The top four hooks are:

4th Jackie

3rd Scott

2nd Nick

1st Sonyou

They chose team mates for the second part of the competition creating the song based on the hook:

Sonyou:  Tommy and Amber

Nick: Jes, Karen

Scotty:  Brian, Nevin

 Jackie: Johnny, Melissa.

The teams feel stress as they watch the clock count down.  Sonyou decides to perform alone and her team mates feel left out.  Jackie calls Melissa, “Rainman.”  Each of the contestants has an area of interest in music and the hooks are difficult for some.   The clock is shown often.

The teams will perform live for the judges Jewel, Jermaine Dupri (associated with Kim Z of Atlanta, friend of Candy Burris, interviewed by Nene for TV news,) Trevor Jeideough, and Karen.

Nick’s team: LA is my city, not reality.  I love LA.  Great voices…

Jackie: Caught a train to LA, city of dreams, reality.

Scotty: Own me a star, give back love.

Sonyou: performs alone and the lyrics are about her with a line: “I love LA” thrown in here and there.

The contestants are together in a room waiting for the judges decisions.  They are discussing their performances and they all look afraid.

They are called back into the Judges’ room and Nick and Jackie were told they were the best.  Both songs could become hits with a little help according to Dupri.   Nick is given first place because there is only one winner.

 The two other teams meet with the judges to hear comments and answer questions.  Scotty, Nevin and Brian have difficulties explaining what happened.  The hook was excellent, but they failed to execute.  Most of the work was done by Scotty.  Sonyou was admonished for not encouraging her team mates to perform with her.  Sonyou’s chorus was dull. 

Scotty’s team lost. Scotty was safe.  In the end Nevin went home. He was allowed to say his goodbyes and felt that the world needed to hear his music.
(Note from Quincy IL: several of the songs were good and the performances were good.  The show will probably get better as the contestants interact.  Watching them create songs was like watching water boil.  The main character was the clock. I hope the show improves as I am in for the long haul.)


Announcing a Summer in Kellyland by Quincy IL

Summer is the time that New Yorkers head by bus, van, train, and limousine to the Hamptons for frolic in the surf and sand angels.  This summer, we are going to live the good life through the eyes of Kelly Killoren Bensimon.  Thankfully, Kelly gives us the opportunity to experience her existence through twitter and the many articles that she writes for online sites.

Kelly is the housewife from NYC most likely to spill the beans on another housewife.  Her backstabbing and gossip may have something to do with the diet of jelly beans, coffee, chicken wings and patron. 

Last Feb., Kelly’s house in the Hamptons was offered for summer lease again:

Kelly Killoren Bensimon offers East Hampton home for rent

Tuesday February 23, 2010 5:46 PM By Valerie Kellogg

A star of “The Real Housewives of New York City” is asking $300,000 to rent out her East Hampton home this summer, according to the property listing.

Kelly Killoren Bensimon’s four-bedroom, 4.5-bath home, seen here, has been featured several times on the Bravo hit reality TV show. The third season premieres March 4.

The 5,800-square-foot house comes with staff quarters. The 1.2-acre property has a heated pool.

The property also is being offered for $40,000 for June, $135,000 for July, $160,000 for August through Labor Day, and $275,000 for July and August.

The rental is listed exclusively with Roseanne Lebwith of Devlin-McNiff Real Estate.

Last year, Bensimon asked $335,000 for the summer rental. It was also on the market for a time for $10.9 million.


Kelly wants you to have fun this summer so she is offering an opportunity to spend time with her. Despite the fact that Kelly has criticized Sonja T. Morgan having a photo shoot for her unwritten toaster oven cook book, Kelly has accepted a fourth book deal and is promoting the unwritten book.


This could be your opportunity of a lifetime!  You can be transformed into Kelly Bensimon and live the fabulous life of a NYC trend setter!

“PEOPLE is reporting that Kelly has entered into a deal with St. Martin’s Press to author her fourth book, tentatively (and here’s hoping permanently) entitled I Want to Make You Hot. Kelly reveals, “[I feel] good about myself, my fluctuating weight and my life.” She continues, “Hot isn’t about a waist size or a number on a scale. We can control how we look and feel, so let’s get started together.”

She hopes to use her personal experiences, as well as several recipes, to empower readers to achieve a more positive sense of self. In the book’s press release, Kelly invites readers to “[s]pend seven days with me and my expert friends and we’ll have fun with exercise, eat better, dress amazing, have more fun and smile through a life that’s too short.” Well, I don’t mind if do. Look for it in 2012!”

I am willing to take this challenge for the good of the IHJZ blog. Although I don’t think that Kelly will accept me.  I think she is looking for 20 somethings who are 5 ft. 10 in. tall and who can wear her left over bikinis from the “Bikini Book.” I never eat jelly beans or chicken wings, nor do I drink coffee or patron, but I do exercise and I can keep up with her while running through the streets of Manhattan despite the fact that I am older than Methusala/Ramona. I wonder if Kelly will be shopping “Jill Zarin on Ebay” for her “in style” attire for her subjects.

You will be challenged this summer to become “Hot!”  like Jill Zarin dressed as a bumble bee playing tennis with Luann at a riad in Marrakesh.

kellybensimon Kelly K. Bensimon

So fun seeing @countessluann playing awesome tennis and my @jillzarin who spoils me with attention and @squeezcouture. Beyond hot

Make that beyond hot! If Kelly is in such great shape why is she wear Jill’s girdles under the shirt dresses and  bikinis?  (Ed. Kelly is Jill’s latest “project”  Lynn~)

kellybensimon Kelly K. Bensimon

Can’t wait to ride this beautiful horse. I feel so lucky. Happy saturday

No problem with this challenge.  I will saddle the horses, ride, and cool them down for Kelly.  I have a feeling I won’t fall like Sonja Morgan.

kellybensimon Kelly K. Bensimon

I’m standing in line to get a beach permit, and a man is in front of me with his parrot on his shoulder #truestory

While waiting in line, we can make sand angels Kelly!

kellybensimon Kelly K. Bensimon

Check out my fashion list on The Real Housewives of New York Episode 2! http://fb.me/xqZmY8AJ

No mention of designer stuff from Jill’s list yet.

kellybensimon Kelly K. Bensimon

@jillzarin. You hair in a pony was so hot. I love how you are having fun with fashion. Its hot to have fun.

Kelly is the only person who thought Jill looked good with a pony tail.

kellybensimon Kelly K. Bensimon

Who loves my bracelet. Its from my fall jewelry line 2010. Sorry, but spring 11 is hot, too. Avail at wink, whotels, dash

Illinois doesn’t pick up road kill any more as a cost cutting measure so I can help with the Kelly jewelry line supplies.

kellybensimon Kelly K. Bensimon

When travelling always bring @jellybelly jellybeans, and integrity. No one likes an ugly american, stay curious. #rhony

I am worried about the jelly bean diet, but I guess it won’t kill me to eat food that grows on trees for 7 days.

 Kellybensimon Kelly K. Bensimon

Thursday Am New York Column..enjoy! http://fb.me/VdpTMDjX

This is the evening bag that Kelly never carries.

Every one enjoys a good mystery and spending the summer in the mind of Kelly Killoren Bensimon will be like a really long summer reading series.  Oprah did not approve this adventure.

Nice work Quincy!  I just wanted to add a link to remind everyone of Kelly’s Twitter breakdown that took place while her St. John breakdown was airing on TV, you can read all about it including the Tweets that she later deleted here:



Real City Housewife has a great article/interview with a friend of the Gorga/Giudice families, it’s a must read!


Nice work RCH!  This article talks about the fact that Dina isn’t speaking to any of the other housewives right now, including her own sister Caroline.  I’m going to speculate here and say that Dina was desperate to get back onto the show and she wanted Teresa, Caroline and Jacqueline to refuse to return to the show unless they allowed Dina to return.  We all know that Bravo doesn’t play that game, they would sooner replace all of the New Jersey Housewives then cave in to demands.  Jeana Keough tried it in Orange County and that didn’t work.  Rumor had it that Bravo refused to allow Dina to return to the show as long as her husband continued to refuse to appear and Bravo wasn’t happy that her daughter was no longer allowed on the show either.

All of the New Jersey Housewives truly have some family issues …WOW!

Just as most of us suspected Dina and Teresa aren’t best friends and Teresa’s choice of Dina as a Godmother to her child was simply because of the show, Dina hadn’t even attended any of Teresa’s kids Christenings before.


Mini Twitter war between Simon and Cindy.  Cindy really does need to lighten up!

@SimonvanKempen: Make sure you have some extra clothes hangers when you watch! @CindyBarshop

CindyBarshop to@SimonvanKempen get a life seriously

Great comeback Cindy, you really are a witty, fascinating woman.  Maybe it is time that you took all of that money that you’re making and get yourself a personality transplant, a sense of humor would be nice too.

Not since Peggy Tanous of Orange County has Bravo made such a huge casting error.  I can’t believe they didn’t see how boring this woman was before they cast her as a New York Housewife.

I can see why she is single, honestly.  Kelly was a poor casting decision but more because they didn’t give her a mental evaluation before signing her on, in Cindy’s case she may be 100% sane but she’s the dullest woman on the planet.  No personality and no sense of humor.  THIS is what they found to replace Bethenny?  You’re fired!

Jill tweeted that she made this fantastic French Toast using vanilla and honey (maybe she

Note the pills in the background

should write a cookbook….oh wait)

Right behind the tray of toast is a packet of little red pills, they don’t appear to be vitamins….just sayin’.

The Zarin Family Trust Controversy by LynnNChicago

There has been a lot of questions for Jill Zarin about the Zarin Family Trust.  Most people associate it with a charity, but what charity?  What exactly is the Zarin Family Trust and how is it funded?  What happens to the money that goes into the Zarin Family Trust?

Jill purchased a hat that NeNe created on The Celebrity Apprentice for $500, Jill then auctioned the hat off for charity.  The beneficiary?  The Zarin Family Trust.  Is this Ally’s college fund?  Does it buy Jill more red hair dye?  More product to stock at Zarin Fabrics or pay for the cost of Jill’s book to be translated into Japanese?  Maybe those funds bought the ingredients to make that yummy looking French Toast in the photo?

The Zarin Family Trust is not listed as an official “charity”, she’s not really saying that it’s a charity but she does imply that funds going into this trust end up at a charity.  Does the Zarin Family Trust collect donations then delve them out to real charities?  We don’t know that either.

TVTime101 did a write up about this subject:


There is a lot of information here but best we can tell Jill’s “Zarin Family Trust” is questionable.  What TinselKitty from TVTime101 found was that this Zarin Family Trust is not listed as any legitimate charity, but we knew that, it’s a “Trust” not a “charity”.  Ok so what is this trust?  Here is what TVTime101 reports:

Specifically, it is a grantor trust. Depending upon where you clickity click, these little numbers are either really bad (the IRS lists it under theirAbusive Trust Tax Evasion Schemes page) or really, really good (rich peeps and their wealth management teams). 

Best we can tell this trust was set up in order to avoid some wealthy persons taxes, ok I get that and I don’t even mind that.  I think the government charging 45% tax on a decedents property prior to turning it over to the family is extortion.  If a family trust will help to avoid that ridiculous tax, more power to them but Jill has opened up this Family Trust to the public and is getting fans to donate to this Zarin Family Trust.  Where do the funds go from there?  There is no way of knowing because it’s not a charity, no one can demand to know where the funds are being appropriated, if at all.

The Zarin Family Trust

Enjoy a private dinner with Jill Zarin, a Charity Buzz auction to benefit…you guessed it, The Zarin Family Trust.  A side note, the winner of this private dinner is also required to pay for the dinner…  from the auction site:

Terms: Winner must pick up the cost of dinner. Location can be a restaurant of the winner’s choice in New York City. Valid for 2 people. To be scheduled at a mutually agreed upon time and date. Based on scheduling and availability. Valid for 1 year after auction close.

Donated by: Jill Zarin


Jill won’t even pick up the tab for the dinner after the auction winner paid out all that money for this auction?  Jill valued her time at $2,500 and the current bid is $550.  So Jill gets a free dinner with two fans and a nice chunk of change for her Family’s trust fund.  One thing that you can be sure of, there is no way in hell anyone is going to let this go until we find out exactly what the Zarin Family Trust is and what it does.


Asshat of the Week!

The “Rich Amons Asshat of the Week Award” goes to:  Luann deLesseps for her constant bitching, moaning and complaining.  She is a controlling bitch!

Thanks to Amy from Twitter for the great asshat clip art.

Until Next Time…

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572 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of New Jersey / Platinum Hits / What Is The Zarin Family Trust?

  1. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    Brought over from the last blog
    well i finally caught up with all the current nj episodes and if i have to pick a team i think it would have to be Teresa,i mean really what did she do at that party that was so bad other then congratulate her brother and his wife
    had her brother Joey not been so drunk maybe things wouldnt have gone so wrong
    and if anyone is an trouble maker i think its Teresa’s hubby
    something major must have gone down between the two former friends maybe Joey caught Joe stepping out on his wife its gotta be something like that
    i dont believe its just about Joeys dad
    and speaking of parents no one seems to show the mom any kind of respect
    seeing her kids act this way has to be breaking her heart but what do we have Joey telling her she has a cold heart
    oh ps Joey we get your going bald but please enough with the hats at dinner

    • PF says:

      If I have to choose between Joey and Teresa….it would be Teresa. I’m still not clear as to why the Gorga’s continuously think Teresa should be the first to apologize for the christening when she wasn’t the one to go crazy. She was the bigger person last night but the Gorga’s still felt she owed them something. It’s really weird! I don’t like Melissa but kudos for her pushing him to respond to Teresa. Teresa is self-centered. I don’t think anyone can deny that, but so is her brother.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        Maybe we have a different outlook cause we had the ability to see all that went down thru tv and they could only see what was going on around them

        like we know that Joe tried to charge at them but Teresa didnt know that and she was right there

  2. boston02127 says:

    Gr8 blog, Thx.

    I don’t think Teresa is capable of having an adult conversation. She doesn’t listen at all. It’s like she can’t wait to get her 2 cents in before the other person is done speaking.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      that is true about T but she didnt start that fight
      now her hubby charging on the other hand might have
      But Joey was going crazy slamming the table before that
      if he werent such a lil shrimp he may have done a full on prostitution whore table flip like his big sis LOL

      • Maryla says:

        And what a bunch of made-up drama, she said congrats, then the drunk ape pounded the table and grunted. Then she couldn’t acknowledge that she abandoned her kids to get in a fistfight and she stomps off (and grunts like an ape).

        Anyone looking for the missing link in the evolutionary chain… Scientists, have a look at these video clips!

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          actually i think her hubby abandoned the kids
          Teresa didnt know he was there ready to charge and most likely left the kids with him

          • Getagrip says:

            Think you’re right; I seem to recall her leaving them with him when she went to go talk to her bro.

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              thanks i wasnt sure about that part but thought she had too and maybe when she flipped out she hadnt known he left the kids unattended

        • AddictedtoBravo says:

          ita..drunk ape…LMAO

    • PF says:

      Yes, and I don’t blame Caroline for rolling her eyes, because Teresa was not listening to Caroline at all. Teresa was replaying everything that happened but Caroline didn’t want to hear it anymore. Yes, Caroline was being a bit rude but I get that she was trying to help Teresa move forward instead of going back to what happened.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        Caroline needs to STFU and take her own advice. She has the balls to try and smack Kathy’s hand for talking HER family but feels it’s her place to have a tete to tete with Gorilla girl.

        She wants to buy into Teresa’s claim that her parenting skills were insulted when the truth was Bubbles brought it other people’s parenting choices first. Kathy left after they all went crazy at the baptism-any normal person would have done that. Who wants to be in the middle of a bar brawl? Kathy said and rightly so she wanted to get her family out of there; and that stupid hairball T starts screaming that her kids are older. Huh?

        That is suppose to mean? Is there an age that you stop wanting to remove your children from violent and dangerous situations?

        The truth was the baby WAS left alone and Kathy took her out of the ruckus. How about a THANK YOU- you stupid cavewoman

        • PF says:

          I get what you are saying, but if Kathy got herself out of it at the christening, then why can’t she stay out of it? Don’t get me wrong…I like Kathy. Her husband is hilarious. But, I wish she would stop talking about the Gorgas sibling problems.

          • rabblerouser says:

            Oh she should have stayed out of it alright, because there is no hope for those animals. I think Darwinsm is going to dictate their fate.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          yes but i still dont think Teresa left that baby alone i think she thought that joe was watching the kids

          • Getagrip says:

            Me too.

            • Rabble Rouser says:

              Maybe but it doesn’t change the facts, the baby was sitting in her stroller with no one watching her when Kathy came on the scene. Not to mention this is a man she (Tre) has to almost beg to change a diaper, I hardly think he is going to be bouncing a baby on his lap while all hell is breaking loose

              • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                but all hell hadnt broken losse yet
                She wanted to say hello to her brother she asked joe to watch the kids
                T’s Brother went nuts
                Ts hubby was watching from where he was
                the next thing was all hell broke loose
                if it really happened the way it was filmed then as far as T knew her hubby was watching the kids
                and Joe being the moron that he is ,he just left that baby unattended
                anyone could have walked off with the baby

                now when Kathy mentioned that the baby was unateded T had no idea of that at that point
                and so she went off on Kathy

                this really is the only thing that makes sense in that situation

                • Getagrip says:

                  You got it right DJ…perfectly right. Kathy shouldn’t have brought that aspect of her conversation up in public

  3. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    Lynn do you know for a fact that the “chef” o last nights show was the actual person that wrote the recipies
    I dont
    he didnt seem to really even know who Teressa was
    Im sure they arent hers either but handed down from relatives
    i cant believe that they had that party at the Manor in Wayne
    and that the management didnt ask them all to leave
    ive been there that sort of thing is not acceptable at a place like that
    ps the food is really good there

    • quincyil says:

      I did look at the book in a bookstore. The recipes seems simple. I think the stories about the show are what sells.

      The cookbook is a picture book for sure. I wonder if they made all of those recipes again and took new photos after Teresa gave her suggestions.

    • LOLing says:

      It was a food styling shoot. The chef that works with the food stylist cooks the food from a book and they photograph it. But, they cook it a little differently, add colors, don’t cook it completely etc. Lots of “tricks”. The reason for this is to make the food visually appealing to the reader. It’s like the food is a supermodel and the stylist makes it sexy! ALL cookbooks do this! That’s why when you cook from a book and look at yours and the picture, it never looks the same. That’s b/c you did it not the food stylist!

      I don’t know what the beef is w/ her cookbook. There is a co-author clearly displayed on the cover (not all that unusual-esp for a first timer), the recipes (which are pretty good actually) are simple and really, most cookbooks rehash the same basic recipes. Maybe w/ tweeks, but there is only SO MUCH one can do with food. It’s not out of the question that her mother, an off the boat Italian would have old school recipes that she uses, a lot of other Italians cook the same way! It’s splitting hairs with this.

      Do you think Rachael Ray takes digital photos of her dishes for her books? No! Also, all authors have editors, even Steven King. You just don’t wake up one day and say “Im going to write a book today”, write it in longhand, take some digital photos, send it to a publisher and there it is!

      Plus, I don’t think she came up with the idea for a cookbook, I think her people approached publishers with the idea and they chose her to do this. They paid her an advance and they provided her the assistance she needed to finish it (which they do for most authors). If you want to complain about the book, write to the people who published it! They call the shots.

      • Miss Katherine says:

        yeah, i don’t get this beef either. bethenny has a co-author for her books. of course she’s wittier than teresa, but even she didn’t do it all on her own. and yes, those were food photographers/stylists, not the actual CHEFS. teresa–as the chef–was there to give in-put and make sure the stylists were true to her recipe and finished product. i don’t like teresa, but i’m not going to unfairly rail against her.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        That all makes a lot of sense

    • PF says:

      I question that too. I thought the chef was just making Teresa’s recipes for the photo shoot. I understood what she was saying about the ingredients. I hate recipes with a 1000 ingredientses too:). But I do use cumin (koo-muhn). It’s one of my favorite spices.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I wonder if the Chef was following someone else’s recipe, why we didn’t see it written down anywhere.

  4. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    Karen DioGraurdi find a dentist pronto!

  5. HD says:

    I thought it was soooooooo funny how Teresa was pronouncing those ingedients’s. LOL! Come-in. Is she nuts? Did ya’ll see the real chefs/authors laughing. Too funny!

    I like Caroline but I am not sure why everyone feels they have to bow down to her. If I was Kathy I wouldn’t have said anything.

    Why is Jaqcueline’s fortune teller, telling her about Teresa? Seems she would focus on her client.

    Ashley-Sigh…how long have her parents been divorced? Jaqcueline is just dealing with the monster she created.

    Quincy-As soon as that music show came on I flipped. I appreciate you blogging but I am sucked too far down into the vortex and I am trying to get out. I cannot watch another Bravo creation!!

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      were any of them authors i mean we saw one was a chef doing the test recipies
      the others all seemed like people that just work at the publishers

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      HD it was Kathys choice to seek Caroline out,hoping to make Caroline see she isnt the troublemaker here
      why she would care is anyones guess but Caroline did the right thing by not getting involved

      • HD says:

        It was her choice but I don’t see why she felt it necessary to even go see Caroline. It happened, you left, you and Caroline aren’t friends, keep it moving.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          Maybe just for more screen time,but she diid really seem like she felt she made a bad first impression

          • HD says:

            Yeah, I guess they have to film together or there would be no show. She probably felt like she really made a poor first impression but to me the meeting just made it worse. Caroline was like, “I don’t wanna hear it.” LOL!

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              well her saying i dont really care this isnt my mess
              is pretty true in itself
              her not wanting to be dragged into it would be a good decision but then she gossiped about it to the others later

          • LynnNChicago says:

            I think that what Kathy’s husband said is true, she tries to be the peacemaker and she thought maybe the two of them together (Kathy and Caroline) could work to make peace among all the Housewives. Obviously Caroline wasn’t open to that.

            • plainviewsue says:

              Remember, Caroline hates you until you give her a reason for her to like you. This woman is so cold. Her only “friends” are her family. I love Kathy and I loved that she realized who the hell is Caroline!!

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              i can believe that,it seemed like she had good intentions
              Caroline doesnt know her though and after the way Kim G was behaving at that fashion show (shall we BOO teresa) is it any wonder that she questions Kathys motives

            • kbinldo says:

              Caroline hates outsiders. That’s why she really hated Danielle. Previous to Season 1, she & Jackie had been friends & were friends until Caroline demanded otherwise.

              • MAMAZ says:

                I really dislike Caroline but in this case I have to defend her. The argument was started by Kathy at the Brownstone, Caroline’s family’s business. She saw what happened at the Poshe fashion show last season and didn’t want a repeat at the Brownstone.
                I think Kathy owed an apology not to Caroline but to the Albert and the staff at the Brownstone.
                I also don’t think it was wrong of Caroline to tell Kathy that she doesn’t care and doesn’t want to hear about it. Kathy didn’t go there to apologize, she went to try and win an ally and she failed.

                • Rabble Rouser says:

                  Kathy wasn’t the one screaming and making a scene. That was Teresa, why should Kathy have to apologize for someone else’s behavior.

                  Honestly, Caroline can stick it. No one can raise their voices above a whisper at the Brownstone; but she didn’t give a toss about how the Baptism Day Massacre would hurt The Manor. Or how her thugette niece assaulted Danielle- and Tre and Jax hunted her down. Or the restaurant where Tre flipped a table.

                  Screw Caroline, she’s got nothing to say when it’s brought to someone elses door. Well, sooner or later it’s going to get brought to yours.

            • snarkarella says:

              I think Kathy and Caroline serve similar roles in their extended families. Bravo was obviously trying to tie the story lines together more securely or you’d have two separate parallel family sagas going on. Frankly, I dislike Caroline immensely and could give a fig about her dim-witted sons and Jacqueline’s not too smart, either. The whole Ashley storyline is boooring. Give the girl the boot already. Send her to Texas to live with her dad. And, if all the Gorga/Giudices are going to do is argue that’s going to get old real soon.

              If that’s the gist of it, then I’m sorry Miss Andy, I’m done. DONE! I’ll wait until Beverly Hills comes back.

              • Getagrip says:

                I’ll second that!

              • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                LOL @ Miss Andy

                he isnt gonna like that
                or he is gonna LOVE it

                I can see Andy walking around his office demaning staffers call him Miss Andy
                ala Miss Ross

      • PF says:

        I think Kathy respects Caroline and would not want to get in her line of fire. I don’t think Kathy realized what she really did by talking to Teresa at the Brownstone. Caroline and Jacqueline were correct in telling Teresa that when you try to make up with someone, you don’t tell them what they’ve done wrong or make accusations. Say sorry and I want to make amends. This was Kathy’s mistake. She should have just told Teresa that she felt bad for what went down at the christening and that if she needed anything, to let her know. Not, I took care of your kids because you abandoned them during the fight. I’m with Caroline….those are fightin’ words to any mother.

        Thus, Kathy should have met with Teresa and said she was sorry for what she said…..and then met with Caroline to apologize for making a scene at the Brownstone. Not start dogging on Teresa and the ‘family’ business at hand.

        I like Kathy. I just think that she is one sided. Sometimes she seems like she wants peace between the Gorgas/Guidices and then in her interviews….she gets all snarky towards Teresa.

  6. boston02127 says:

    Well…I’m going to get ready to go to the dentist to have my teeth cleaned. I’m glad I’m not Cindy or this could be an all day thing. 🙂 BBL

  7. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    Lynn you should bid on that dinner with Shrill
    that out to make her run for cover LOL

    • HD says:

      I cannot believe people are paying for a dinner and then have to go pay to eat as well. How cheap. The very least she could do is pay for the dinner. I don’t do stuff like this. Is this the norm to have the person bidding pay?

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        nope only in Shrills world

      • LynnNChicago says:

        Honestly I’m surprised Jill didn’t use her many “connections” to try to get a free dinner then put the restaurant name in the Charity Buzz auction. She could easily have talked to one of her many haunts and asked them to donate a dinner in exchange for having their name out there. We know that Jill paying wasn’t an option but she looks so cheap by including “the winning bidder pays for dinner”.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          im sure your right Q
          its not a very nice way for her to behave using charity to line your satchels of gold

        • FLG says:

          Also posters, remember that Charitybuzz is a FOR PROFIT organization. I wrote a lengthy post on that a few days ago.

  8. GoldenPoolGirl says:

    Great blog as usual, Lynn. I am really glad you wrote about the Zarin Family Trust. More people need to be aware that this is not a charity. Also, since we all know Jill reads every blog, maybe this will entice her to answer our questions about it. Oh, wait. She’ll just spin her own version of reality. Nevermind.

  9. quincyil says:

    About Kelly….

    I think she is officially a friend of Jill Zarin. They are hanging out together. So by following Kelly, we will have a summer of fun with Jill also.

    Boston, I am counting on you for Kelly contributions. LOL. The plan is to enjoy the good life of Kelly, while we are working our tails off for survival in the non New York states.


    • plainviewsue says:

      Kelly’s writing her fourth book? When did she ever write any others??? With the exception of Alex and Sonya from NYC and Kathy from NJ, I’ve come to the realization that every last one of them is certifiable. But the worst continues to be Jill. Did you see that interview she did for AOL Popeater? Believe me, like Bethenny said, we all know you Jill. Before the show started filming, she told Kelly and Louan we have to make Ramona look bad this season. She told Brad I’ll tell Bravo to film you, but you have to say something negative about Ramona.

      Is it normal to hate someone so much that you never met!!!!???

      • quincyil says:

        I think you hate the idea that they are given these opportunities when there are experts that could do a better job. People must buy the books or they would not be able to sell them.

        • MAMAZ says:

          I don’t think they sell that many books. But it’s great advertising for the show. Bravo encourages these ventures, maybe even arranges deals between NBC and the publishers. They cost to the publishing house would be low and the advertising for Bravo fantastic. It also feeds the egos and ramps up the drama. Win/win for Shed Media and NBC.

      • PF says:

        I was going to ask the same thing. I didn’t know Kelly wrote books.

        • snarkarella says:

          I ready Giles Bensimon had a lot to do with Kelly getting those previous book deals. She’s probably got a ghost writer, too.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          How can she write them when she is still working on reading run spot,run

      • Whisper says:

        “Is it normal to hate someone so much that you never met?”
        I would of said no ’til I “met” JZilla on RHONY.
        This “woman” is like no other I’ve ever met or cared to meet. She’s in a league of her own.
        She is a despicable excuse for a human being.
        Own nothing, deny everything.
        I HATE JILL ZARIN!!!

  10. GoldenPoolGirl says:

    On another note, how is Kelly going to give us a fabulous summer in the Hamptons if her house is rented out? She can’t stay w/Jill b/c her house is sold. Guess they’ll move in to Lumann’s house. She’s never there because she’s shacked up with Ross in the city. Maybe Jill and Kelly can parent Victory and Noel. (Yea, because that wouldn’t be a trainwreck!) If Kelly picks you, I’ll tag along. We can all run in traffic and I’ll trip her in front of a bus and you can be my alibi!

    • quincyil says:

      I don’t know if they are able to rent it at those prices. I think charting Kelly’s activities over the summer is going to give us insight into the good life of the fabulous people of NYC. Besides, nothing after the farmers get the crops in on the prairie, you just watch the corn grow. You actually can hear it pop after a rain because it grows so quickly.

      I many write a book about Kelly Bensimon.


      • quincyil says:

        oops..nothing happens here…after..

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        seriously the Fab set want nothing to do with Miss Gummybears

        • quincyil says:

          Well, we will find out. It will be interesting if Gwenneth stops by Kelly’s house.

          Have you noticed that Kelly never throws any parties? She had Luann and Sonja over for drinks, but has there ever been a dinner at Kelly’s house?

          One of the things, that I and others have noticed is the amount of projection that the reality stars have. In my opinion, Kelly was projected when she acted so stangely in the kitchen of Brad’s B& B in Morocco. I think Kelly’s feels her husband cheated on her. I think Kelly feels that she can’t live the life she had and she projected that onto Sonja when Kelly talked about Sonja wanted to live her old life.

          My 0pinion again: I can’t believe that Kelly and Giles have a wonderful relationship. If it was wonderful, why did he dump her?

          We have 3 women in the NYC group of housewives who married old men and were dumped. I find this absolutely fascinating and I want to study their reactions.

          In my opinion, these dumped women are house poor. They all took large homes in the divorce and I bet not one of the three would be able to pay for a new roof on those mansions.

          Luann talked about how much money the charity events cost. I bet that a number of the housewives are showing up to events to be seen, but are not donating. I think they feel they are stars and they help the event by showing up.

  11. Stella says:

    When Jacquelyn was telling Teresa to do edits of her letter cause the first time she wrte it the letter would probably be mean and Teresa said that she wasn’t mean, I thought OMG she’s having an identity crisis.

  12. Stella says:

    I thought it was very telling that Teresa said the she and her brother were fine until the christening and when Caroline was talking to Kathy she said that both Teresa and Joey have been horrible to each other. That tells me the fued started earlier than Teresa would have us believe.

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      Oh of course it started earlier then that but i dont think anyone knows for sure just what started it
      my money is on Not So Juicy Joe
      Both Joe G’s seem like big assholes to me

      the saddest part is Teresa’s kids seem to be the ones hurting the most from this
      you could see how much Gia loves her uncle and if there is one saving grace about Joey he doesnt seem to take the fued out on the kids

      • Stella says:

        Yeah I agree with you. When I said it was telling I meant of Caroline and Teresa not being on the same page anymore. If Teresa doesn’t want her business with her brother out there then Caroline didn’t get the memo. I thought these guys stick to the same story good or bad since they are friends. I don’t care if they do stick to the same story but I since there re rumors the Teresa and Caroline don’t get along this scene might mean something

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          I dont know if they are or arent really friends But Caroline says they are both on the show and on twitter
          they may have had a falling out
          but all friends go thru that from time to time

        • PF says:

          I think Caroline started backing off from Teresa last season during the reunion show when Teresa pushed Andy. Last night she said that her and Teresa are friends but not buddy, buddy. I took it that she doesn’t hang out with Teresa on a normal basis outside of RHONJ. Caronline is not a fighter. She will not lie down and let anyone attack her personally, her family, or her friends. It seems she is very against physical violence, as we all should be. Teresa is very physical. So is her brother. Caroline is right to keep some distant from that. I just wish Teresa would wake up and see that she limits her friends because of how she acts.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            Her brother scares me
            why is it always the little guys that seem they have something to prove
            Joe who isnt much taller is calling Joey a FIDGET
            the only friend i have that grew up in wayne use to call Little Women that

      • Stella says:

        Sorry posted comment before finishing but anyway if I was going in blind it would tell me as a viewer that the feud started before Teresa wanted me to believe.

  13. Stella says:

    I don’t mean this to offend anyone out there but when Teresa said that she had more brains than her brother and that she was smarter than him my immediate thought was let’s get the guy institutionalized quick!

  14. okeydoekey says:

    When Ashley is featured on the show they have no material. Jacqueline’s a fool to think divorce is her daughters issue. Make her work no school or job then no free home. This episode was a bore. Ashley just tweeted she wants veneers. They need to stop paying for her crap. She hasn’t realized she appears so ugly because of her attitude.

    Still have no clue why Kathy talked to Caroline.

    Teresa’s Comin vs. Cumin and Bother vs. Brother was the best part.

    Gorga and sex is embarassing hearing. Enough.

    Helen Keller communicates better Tre

    • LynnNChicago says:

      So true about Ashley! Jac said that Ashley came home with the puffed up lips and there wasn’t anything she could do about it but pay the bill. Is she kidding? And who paid for Ashley’s newest hair extensions, those are expensive too! Time for Jac to get tough

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        isnt it a little late for her to start parenting
        LOL Ashley IS spoiled

        did she raise herself,NO
        if anyone is to blame its Jac’s herself
        maybe she overcompensated out of guilt
        who knows
        we werent privvy to the early years

        • LynnNChicago says:

          Very true, I think she did overcompensate out of guilt, the early years when Jac had to support herself and her daughter, she worked hard but wasn’t able to give her the finer things. Then she married Chris Laurita and was able to give her all those things and Chris, trying to impress his new wife did the same. Remember Season one when Chris felt bad for Ashley and bought her a new car? Caroline was yelling at Jac over it but it was Chris who did it.

          It is time for Ashley to get cut off (financially) and be forced to make it in the real world.

          • quincyil says:

            Lynn, Ashley will keep spending and end up is bankruptcy too. She has no concept of how much she spends.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            oh see I didnt know that ,i just figured that all her relatives helped in the spoiling but thatit started with Jac But if it really started with Chris then why doesnt Jac see that
            she shouldnt be cut off completely but have to go and find a job (which in our state isnt going to be that easy) why not have her waitress at the brownstone
            i would think Caroline would do that easily for them

          • Sunny says:

            If Ashley want on reality tv so bad she can go on VH1’s show, You’re Cut Off! That’s be great. And I think Lynn’s being generous when she says Caroline’s only on the show because she has two good looking sons. She has one passable looking son and one with a nose only a mother could love. Just sayin.’

            • DJ Loops Fruit says:

              oh they are both reather attractive i agree one is much better looking then the other but beauty is subjective
              Im more interested in teh new room mate is he Gay or Isnt he
              the dog is adorable and so is he

            • Dawn says:

              Take a long hard look at Chris. That’s Albie in a few years. They have the same features.

      • PF says:

        She would have been doing the yardwork, cleaning toilets, making dinner, laundry, etc…..to pay me back IF it was a credit card they gave her. If that’s not the case, I wouldn’t have paid it. If it was the case….she gets cut off from having any credit card. Jac needs to quit feeling guilty for the past. Tough love, tough love, Jac! And stop the excuses.

  15. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    Well Stella he doesnt (to me anyway) seem much better then his sister
    they both have the same short fuse both have tempers both say things in front of the kids that shouldnt be said
    maybe the problem is they are too much alike
    he seemed to like being told he looked just like her when he got dressed in drag

    • Stella says:

      Yeah I think you’re right. They seem an awful lot alike and sometimes that’s good for a relationship and other times it is oh so bad.

      Thanks for responding to me cause I really enjoy reading your comments.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        why thank you Stella i enjoy reading yours as well
        its always been my experience with anyone ever introduced to me as someone that is much like me theat the other person and i never click
        i think thats true for a lot of people
        its sad in this case because they used to be close
        I really think its Joe that is the problem between Joey & Teresa
        did you notice that she pushed her hubby 2 times when they were outside and was yelling at him to stop and when he bad mouths her brother she gets mad
        there is love there between the two siblings its just stubborn pride and italian insanity that is keeping them from making up

        • Stella says:

          I did notice that but I didn’t connect the dots. Now that you’ve pointed that out to me it does make perfect sense. This coupled with that phone call from Juicy Joe about running into Joey makes what you said make a lot of sense.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            yeah that was really odd for a phone call almost like he was baiting Teresa
            im not saying she doesnt have issues she does have a hot temper but apparently that runs in her family

            sadly this is what my Jimmys family are like
            and they do all love each other but it goes from sweet harmony to ww3 at the flip of a switch

  16. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    okeydokey im not a big fan of ashleys but i teared up when she was on the phone with her step brother
    Divorce may not be the reason she is teh way she is BUT it may have played a small part
    being dragged from home to home when your that young isnt going to be good for any child

    no child becomes spoiled by themselfs

    • HD says:

      Maybe because of the divorce Jaqcueline felt she needed to overcompensate or something. She surely did create a monster.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        oh i agree that she is now a monster but she didnt become one on her own
        i think were both right about the overcompensating
        im sure Jac meant well
        but she has to realize she had a part in this

      • quincyil says:

        Some of Ashley’s behavior comes from going to high school in that area. I think friends influence children when the child is weak. Ashley is weak mentally.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          what area did she go to grade school though wasnt it in texas
          and then high school in NJ well i can tell you from experience high schools around NJ are all tough
          the only time i was happy in school was when my family still lived in newark

          • dsc60 says:

            i believe Jac was in las vegas when she met Chris about ten years ago i believe. ashley went to private schools in NJ for the most part.

    • okeydoekey says:

      I agree we all have something in our background. But having a goal to strive towards ie school, job, apt gives u a different outlook. This girl lives for free. Gets money from Bravo for acting poorly. Gets plastic surgery and complains. She lacks motivations because she is allowed not to have to do the tuff work. I hate working but it does help me focus on other things besides myself and my problems.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        But why do you suppose that is
        its pretty obvious that Jac isnt a bad person
        but she married way too young had a child to young and when things didnt work out she was finally mature enough to remove herself from a bad marriage but by then the damage was already done
        had she had more insight she would have had Ashley take summer jobs when she was maybe 16 by now she would be a different person
        and also she needed to stop rewarding her bad behaviour
        like laugh with her about stuff that Ashley did to Danielle

        • HD says:

          Amen about Ashley working! My daughter has had a job since she was 13 and I told her you WILL contribute to this household. Of course I only made her buy the toliet paper or the soap but you know you gotta set the course for some stuff. She is 15 now and still has the same summer job.

          Jacqueline never did that (how do I know? Just look at her daughter) and now she is just reaping what she has sown. This is the fruit of the seeds she planted.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            i dropped out of high school and got my ged at night at 16 (long story short gay bashed at school to the point the police were called in,much worse then anything Kurt went thru on glee)
            but i went to work during the day
            it wasnt much of a job just a stock boy at Hanes & Co which was a dept store in newark
            after that ended i found another crappy job in Paterson working in a factory putting trim on award plaques and trophies
            i always paid my parents room and board

            • Getagrip says:

              Sorry you went through all that and good for you to get your GED! Hope things have improved for you now and that you have people in your corner. Love your posts!

              • MAMAZ says:

                I know some lovely young adults who come from divorced families. But it is harder to parent alone and although I don’t think Jac is a bad person I think she is a lazy mother who takes the easy route.

                • Getagrip says:

                  I wonder how many “uncles” she had before her mother remarried; I know I had more than a few. Being a single parent is hard and a lot of women look for a man to take over the responsibility; not bashing them, I understand them.

                • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                  im not sure if it was laziness or that she was just too young to do it on her own

              • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                getagrip thank you what a very nice thing to say
                i enjoy your post here as well
                and oh yes things did get much better for me
                Thank you for asking

    • PF says:

      Yes, when they were showing her talking to her brother on the phone in TX, I thought about my niece. She’s like Ashley too, in a way. Both her parents moved on and married other people and have more children. So, she feels left out and thinks her parents owe her everything for what they’ve done to her. I hope she can grow up and feel the need to become independent.

    • Getagrip says:

      I’m glad to see that people are having a little more compassion for Ashley here. I can bash the adults with no problem, but find it difficult to do so with the kids. Ashley has her issues to be sure, but she wasn’t born with them, she learned her behavior by watching/emulating those around her and mirrors it back to those in her life. She’s shallow? Look at her role models! I mean what parents, knowing her issues, would expose her to all the ridicule we so willingly dish out?

      • detrcait says:

        Ashley may have been a child when the show started, but she is most definitely an adult now. Add to that the fact that she is able to watch the past seasons of this show and see not only her behavior, but how it effects other people in her life. How can she still be acting the same way! Her broken family can only take her so far in my book, she clearly knows how to manipulate her mother and still get what she wants. How old do you have to be before you start taking responsibility for your decisions? She is at the age where you can blame your relationships/commitment issues on a broken family, but not being a complete bum feeding off of your parents. That has nothing to do with coming from a divorce.

        • DJ Loops Fruit says:

          Im guessing youve never seen the film
          Mildred Pierce


        • Getagrip says:

          I think there’s some confusion here about divorce “causing” behavioral problems. Divorce sets up a DYNAMIC, ENVIRONMENT, SITUATION where, unless handled in a stellar manor by BOTH parents can really cause problems for their children. Divorce doesn’t CAUSE the problems, the parents do, but divorce is the environment, situation the family has to function in. In previous posts of mine on another thread I was unable to get this point across. I am 59 years old and went through it with my mother several times and I’m still getting counseling, which is what I think the family needs as a whole. You don’t just “cure” yourself without help, whatever form that takes. I was blessed with a vicarious mother and father in my early 20s who let me be me and grow; if not for them there’s a good chance I wouldn’t be what I am today. Everyone keeps focusing on Ashley, but it’s the whole fambly. I think there’s a part of Jaq that doesn’t want Ashley to have it any easier than she did. Jaq’s dad even pointed out that Jaq shouldn’t compare herself as a child to Ashley; they had completely different ENVIRONMENTS that they grew up in. Not “yelling” in caps, just want to make a point.

  17. Stella says:

    Given Kelly’s title to her new book, at least we now know why she’s been constantly saying the word “Hot” like she’s the revival of Paris Hilton c 2005. Just when you thought it was safe someone gives Kelly another book.

  18. DJ Loops Fruit says:

    the scary part is she isnt nearly as smart as Paris


  19. quincyil says:

    BTW… I bet a lot of the cars on the show are leased. It’s a horrible way to spend your money, but these people are all about show. I bet there are huge mortgages on those homes too.

    • error404 says:

      Sorry Q, I’m having trouble making any kind of sense out of this blurp.

      • quincyil says:

        I think Teresa’s car is probably leased. She has to have a Mercedes for show. Leasing cars cost more money than saving and buying the car over time.

        • error404 says:

          Not true.

          If the whole point is to say someone as broke as Ter should be driving a Kia with a dented fender, not a new luxury car, so be it.. but it has nothing to do with lease vs. own.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        i think q is saying that the people on h/ws dont ever buy those fancy schmancy cars they are seen driving
        they just lease them

        • error404 says:

          I doubt it. I’m pretty sure that Big Pappa bought Kim that bling mobile, and I also think the sports car that got repoed because Sheree didn’t pay her lawyer was also owned. Either way, who cares. It’s Bravo that is pushing the “see how rich they are!” scenario down everyone throats even though most of us don’t care.

          The mortgage thing didn’t make sense either. Their huge houses probably have huge mortgages? Um, like duh. Some seems still able to pay them. Others, like so many worldwide, took a hit in income and now are struggling to keep up.

          I think most people are like Kelly, they want to have it both ways when trying to diss people they don’t like. She complains that Sonja doesn’t know how to scale back now that her income is reduced, and without pausing for breath will criticize her for not going to get a mani-pedi every week.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            Someone was silly enough to either let these mooks lease/buy but it doesn’t guarantee the payments are being made.

            • alicia says:

              Some people are living in their homes up to three years before they are foreclosed on. My neighbors(on six acres) have let the forest around their house grow in so you can’t even see the house. It’s sad, he was a photographer but has not been getting any work. It hurts the homeowners who are paying our dues because we are absorbing the loss of money. The banks took all the TARP money and lined their own pockets instead of helping small business people.

              • DJ Loops Fruit says:

                im so glad i bought my home outright

                now mind you its only a small house but its all mine
                just 2 bedrooms but 3 full baths
                and 2 kitchens (one is in the basement)

              • Getagrip says:

                I agree with you. The value of my home has dropped 8%, my income has also dropped 8% in the last 2 years. Our HOA keeps raising the dues, which actually forces some residents into foreclosure; things are so tight for people these days anything pushes them over the edge. 5% of the population in this country owns 95% of the wealth. Historically when that happens civil discord and rebellion usually follows (Middle East); I don’t think people in the US have the balls to stand up to those that support only the wealthy (Republicans come to mind here). I’ll stop now as I could go on and on here. Check out this link for good information: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_153356618057194&ap=1

    • PF says:

      I just want to know if all the HW’s get a discount from Range Rover. Seems they all have one.

  20. quincyil says:

    About Platinum Hits…

    I did not find anyone in the show interesting. A couple of songs at the end were good, but Sonjou song was all about her, not LA. I was shocked that she was not sent home for that. I think she is going to be the foil in the show as she made a comment about Karen being Southern that was uncalled for.

    I think the producers are counting on the fact that these are young people with hormones so there might be some romance.

    Dupri isn’t going to be on every week, but his comments were interesting since he has been on Bravo before with Atlanta RH.

    It was a lot easier to describe art than to describe songs. Bloggers will have trouble blogging this show.

    • Rhetorica says:

      I liked it, especially seeing the process. My son writes songs for his band. Good ole rock n roll. I agree that Sonjou is an instigator. But the guy who was elimited plagairized his first song.

  21. Stella says:

    Thanks you guys for the fun reading. I’m going back to bed now. I’m in Hawaii and it is 2:35 am and I couldn’t sleep and I couldn’t wait to read this blog. I’ve gotta get up at 5:00 so I better count sheep or something. Be back later cause really I can’t stay away I’m addicted.

    • MAMAZ says:

      I would be sympathetic towards your insomnia but you’re in HAWAII! lol
      I’m Jillous.

      • Stella says:

        LOL. Hawaii does have it perks but if it makes you feel better, I’m in Kona and the volcano Kilauea keeps erupting and spewing ash and sulfer in the air and it creates what we call vog and that makes it hard to see the scenery. The Hilo side of the island doesn’t have this problem unless the wind changes and sometimes it goes to Oahu. Clear skies usually happen after a big storm. When I visited it was always clear but when I moved (I’m from Oahu) it has been voggy 90% of the time so I guess I can take the blame. On my drive to work you can’t even see the ocean or sky but I guess it still is good that we can go to the ocean. Honestly I live here but haven’t been to the beach since 2007 (hides head in shame). Does that make me lame or what? 🙂

      • Getagrip says:


  22. nic says:

    I’ve been mulling over something in my head for the better part of a day and I just need space to get it out- sorry in advance Lynn for using your comments section as my thereapy 😉

    I was reading Naturally Thin and skipped back to the acknowledgments. Bethenny says: “Jill and Bobby Zarin, you have changed my life forever and you are the family I never had.” I felt this overwhelming sadness over what has transpired in 2 short years (the book was published in 2009). It was as if a dvr was playing in my mind as I went over scenes of Jill and Bethenny together in S2 and how they were pretty much partners in crime. Fast forward to season 3 and all the BS about not visiting Bobby as he was ‘dying’ of cancer and offense over the whole ‘get a hobby comment’. Then go to the whole confrontation in Ramona’s apartment and then on to Bethenny crying on the street. I guess it just really really hit me how the events that transpired in S3 must have devestated Bethenny, and Jill just treated it as some ‘storyline.’ I guess also seeing Bethenny on her show pulled back the curtain on how seriously B is when she considers someone ‘family’ and JZ just pissed all over it with her drummed up ‘drama’ for the sake of the show. I don’t know if I’m expressing my self clearly- basically I guess I’m sad over what ‘could have been’ if Jill weren’t such a bitch and could realize for one iota of a second how deeply she hurt B. They really could have been a great team.

    • plainviewsue says:

      Very well said. I think that is also what saddened me most. JZ knew that Bethenny came from such a disfunctional family and how difficult it was for her to get close to anyone. So Bethenny lets herself get taken in by not only Jill and Bobby, but Gloria and even Allie. She finally had a “family.” But once Bethenny didn’t do what Jill expects from family members, she shut Bethenny down and told her we are done. Jill would have been her matron of honor, and probably would have been Brynn’s godmother. Jill’s ego destroyed all that. Right now, the brunettes are all that she has for now. Do you really think Lulu likes her, with her foul mouth? As soon as RHONY ends, so will that friendship.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Sadly, Jill feelings for Bethenny were based on her own fame/air time – looking good for the camera. Bethenny thought they were really friends. We know how that ended.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        I think they had a true friendship – which is why when Jill started to behave the way she did to Bethenny – we as viewers reacted.

    • Getagrip says:

      Others are right, your post was very well said. B tried so many times to fix the mess with JZ and J blew her off every time. You could tell it was like a dagger in B’s heart, but just a petty charade for J. I have no sympathy for J and was revolted when she “just couldn’t understand” why B wouldn’t make up with her. S3 really confirmed my suspicions re J and I really can’t stand the woman. She just rages on with everyone and then plays the victim with faux tears that she can barely squeak out. B showed good sense and respect for herself to end that relationship!

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      all of what you said is so so true and so sad and is why we all hate Shrill so much

      how do you throw away a friendship as if it was nothing

      • MAMAZ says:

        Remember the scene with B and Gloria? Didn’t Gloria say something along the lines of B being part of her family forever? When it all went down I wondered where the hell Gloria was. Why wasn’t she talking to B and JZ both. If she thought B was wrong she could have told her so. And Lord knows she must have seen the way her daughter was acting. My mother would have wasted no time telling me to be happy for my friend’s success and to get over myself!
        I think it’s safe to say Gloria never heard B’s side of the story. I guess she meant B would be part of her family as long as she was kissing Shill’s ass.

        • Getagrip says:

          I am soooo glad you said this! The conspicuously silent G made me feel she too was full of a bunch of hooey. Now it’s Kelly that get’s the benefit of “Mother Gloria’s” wisdom. Gag me!

          • MAMAZ says:

            Until she does something to piss JZ off.
            I suspect this has been a lifelong pattern for Jill, making but not keeping friends.

        • Getagrip says:

          Forgot to say that B is really lucky to have Jason’s family! They truly want to make B feel loved and cared for and no matter what issues they may have they’re more than willing to work it out. I love that family and YAY for Jason et al in B’s life. I know what it’s like to desire to have a family, and like me, she found one.

          • DJ Loops Fruit says:

            Yeah Jasons family is awesome as well as he is
            i forget how young was his brother when he died

            • HW Addict says:

              He was only 19.
              I should confess, I live in Hazleton. The Hoppy’s are very well respected and the most genuine people you will ever meet. I know half the people that were at The Capri very well, the woman that asked Bethenny if she was still tasting the Jimmy’s hot dog (the hot dogs are notorious for, well, coming back up to remind you that you have eaten one!) is a dear friend of mine from high school, her name is Denise, her husband Bob was the tall one with the longer black hair. Both super people. The one that gave the toast is a friend of mine as well, his name is Rick, awesome guy. I even dated one of Jason’s friends many moons ago! BTW, The Capri has always been known as one of the local “alchy” (as in alcoholic) bars in town. When Jason and his friends were younger they would go there because it was very inexpensive and they didn’t “card” ie ask for proof of age. The restaurant they had dinner in with Carol and Bob is Mea’s, excellent food that I would compare too any retaurant in NY and the owner is a wonderful guy. I wish they would have shown more of the restaurant, it is really beautiful. It was a bank building from the turn of the century and has the most beautiful ceilings, they had craftsman from Europe come in to referbish it, just stunning! The wine room, which is the back drop for the bar, is an old bank vault with the huge round vault door that you can see the inner workings of, very cool. I digress… Back to the Hoppys. They are just what Bethenny needs. Warm and loving and old fashioned. Carol is the sweetest and doesn’t have a phony bone in her body. I ran into her at our local Giant and I asked her if she thought Bethenny would appear at the grand opening of our dog park (I am on the BOD) with Cookie so that we could drum up some excitement. Carol was super graciuos and, w/o trashing Bethenny, explained that she thought that would be a wonderful idea but that she does not get involved in those matters. Carol is true class and Bob is just a big teddy bear. Jason is what he appears, a gentle man. I had to laugh when Bethenny said that she and Jason couldn’t have been more different, when i first started watching RHONY I thought that Bethenny seemed to have the same personality of most of the women in Hazleton, we’re mostly smart asses with a quick wit that can take as well as we can give. It was not a stretch for me to see why Jason was attracted to her personality, it probably reminded him of home!

              • VAgirl says:

                Good morning HWAddict. Interesting post. I almost missed it. You should post this downthread so others who I know would be interested will see it. I know it was in answer to a question, though. Thanks.

                • HW Addict says:

                  Good morning VAgirl!
                  I am new to this, when you say “downthread” what do you mean, forgive my ignorance!

              • Getagrip says:

                Thanks so much for the insightful info!

    • PF says:

      Great post! And something I really didn’t think about when it was going down. Yes, Bethenny must have been seriously hurt thinking the Zarin’s had been ‘family’, something she didn’t really have growing up. And to treat her like they did. That IS sad! You know, Jill is always saying that Ramona doesn’t think before she speaks. Jill doesn’t either. This whole thing with Bethenny could have been fixed if it weren’t for Jill.

      • Getagrip says:

        Exactly! She cared more about getting the camera time due to the situation rather than the friendship-that-never-was (on her part; B really wanted to believe she had a true-blue friend).

      • MsJxn says:

        Sorry, but I don’t agree. Jill “thinks” about every thing she say’s and does day’s if not weeks before she contrives and manipulates every situation to try to influence things to her advantage. Ramona, while she is impulsive and not the most tactful one, does not have a conniving manipulative bone in her….just doesn’t seem to be her nature.

  23. vilzvet says:

    Holy cow, there are TEN Giudice granddaughters and no grandsons according to that insider. The name, mispronounced as it has been, will soon die out with Joe and his unseen brother.

    • jeepers1941 says:

      and unfortunately, joey gorga has 2 sons that will carry on that family’s traditions, yikes!!

    • Getagrip says:

      This may sound rather weird, but when my sister was trying to get pregnant she was reading all kinds of books, one of which was how to possibly determine the sex of your child. The book pointed out that if a woman has an orgasm during intercourse prior to the man it changes the acidity level in the uterus making it more likely that you will have a boy. So, all I can think of is…well, you can see where I’m headed…. Probably a lot of frustrated wives, poor things! 😦

  24. jeepers1941 says:

    Unfortunately for jz, her treatment of Bethenny was jz biggest downfall. She lost much more than a potential “best friend” she lost her way in life, period. Her fans left her in droves, she became the most hated housewife and there is no amount of time for her to redeem herself. She knows this too, so she just figures what the hell, I’ll just do and say what I want and to hell with everyone else. She wants people to fall as hard as she did, so they feel her pain. Only her pain was self-made and she can’t and won’t except this, not now, not ever. You reap what you sow jz!

    • Arya Stark says:


      Yup/ I saw this link on TWOP first, someone is saying that the source is Bethenny.


      • That article has Jill’s grubby little fingerprints written all over it. The part that states that Ramona turned Bethenny against Jill is a red flag. Jill also has a relationship with Radaronline. She has given them a few “exclusive” interviews in the past.

      • jeepers1941 says:

        Sorry but I just don’t see Bethenny doing something like that, jz yes, I could see her doing it.
        I mean if Bethenny was that kind of person, I think she would have dumped on jz as well. I have never heard her say anything about jz since she left the show, but jz on the other hand has done nothing but talk about Bethenny. Like I said, you reap what you sow and in jz case, it was a really bad crop that poisoned the ground for a long time to come.

        • Arya Stark says:

          It’s so OBVIOUSLY Jill it’s not even funny.

          She already has everyone discussing Ramona’s “drunken alcoholism” and “cheating husband” but she just never, ever knows when to stop.

          She is a vicious, vindictive, horrible, stupid, jealous, hateful bitch.

          • housewifeaddict says:

            The part that gives Jill away as the source is where she blames Ramona for the Bethenny/Jill fight. Deep sigh. She should have stopped at the jealousy part.

          • I guess this is why Jill and her puppets have decided to gang up on Ramona this season and attempt to ruin her reputation. I have a feeling that Ramona was the first person to tell Bethenny about Jill’s plot to sabotage Bethenny’s show. When Bethenny found out about that, she didn’t want anything to do with Jill. Jill is going to stop at nothing to get even with Ramona.

      • housewifeaddict says:

        That’s sort of annoying to read – Jill should just put this stuff in her blog and own it.

    • dsc60 says:

      at least most of the commenters believe that jill planted this story. there were a couple of anti-Ramona comments, but most were anti-Jill.

  25. skogsstig says:

    As Charlie Brown used to say, “Good grief!” Now we’ve got Jill Zarin, in a video, “explaining” , again, “You’ve Got: Truth About Fights on ‘Housewives’ ” on the front page of aol.com
    Lovely, as always.

  26. skogsstig says:

    Love the blog, Lynn and Quincy!

  27. jeepers1941 says:

    And no HD, I don’t have on my rose colored glasses, but I just don’t see B taking the time out of her busy schedule to dis jz or anyone else for that matter. But jz seems to have made a habit of doing under-handed things just like this. We all know she either plants stories about people, or gets someone to do it for her. Least not we forget Amazongate to mention just one little diddy she tried to pull over on everyone. And the stories (rumors) on Ramona being a drunk, the Alex and Simon stories she has done So my bet is on jz!

  28. Amber...Real Wife says:

    Had to share. Jill explains it all.


    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Oops! Go to aol.com and search for Jill explaining housewives drama

      • T-REX says:

        OMG! Had to watch this trainwreck. UHM, Hello JZ, “delusional” calling. She blogs she is misunderstood, everyone is bullying her etc., then goes on to say this is all an “act”? Oh, and the shoutout for B to call her, B never talk to that evil witch again!

    • boston02127 says:

      So sick of Jill explaining e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g.
      Own it Jill!

  29. WindyCityWondering says:

    Jill exhibits all the signs of a life loser. Her book/those wacked rules, her ill fitting and garish girdles, her motel worthy bedding line and how she treats her friends and family. Winning means everything even if the prize is not worth winning. And when she loses she is determined to make the winner appear to be a loser.

    • jeepers1941 says:

      I think jz has been a loser for most of her life as well. I think she actually thought that she could really be somebody, “a star” on this show. Then she could rub peoples noses in her fame(old school kids who didn’t like her) she’d show them she was rich and famous. But she couldn’t even do that, so she is still that little girl, trying her damnest to fit in and she just can’t do it. I think she is in need of professional help. But her sickness is so deep rooted now, I truly believe no one can get through to her, not even professionals.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        thats why i call her a sociopath
        she believes the lies that come out of her mouth so for her she is telling the truth

        • MAMAZ says:

          I posted this several blogs back. I think it describes more than one of the H’wives.

          ‘People who are psychopathic prey ruthlessly on others using charm, deceit, violence or other methods that allow them to get what they want. The symptoms of psychopathy include: lack of a conscience or sense of guilt, lack of empathy, egocentricity, pathological lying, repeated violations of social norms, disregard for the law, shallow emotions, and a history of victimizing others.’
          – Robert Hare, Ph.D

  30. Mary says:

    Congrats Lynn, for another spot on recap. BTW, I made the pic of you, Bethenney, and the Skinny Girl bus my screen saver. Love it! You have nice readers!

    Just one thing… We do not agree that the Manzo brothers are good looking. Are they nice young men, I would guess they are. Are they sweet to their mom? Yes, they appear to be. Are they uneducated, dufus, and just average looking? Yes! That show will never be in line of sight. And you are right about Caroline, because I just fast forward through her. She’s boring, mean, dumb and a waste of air-time. I’m sure that she already had a falling-out with the true “star” of the show, which is Teresa the neanderthal.

    Keep up the great work. I’m your fan!
    Still hating Jill,

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      oh sorry but Albie is VERY goodlooking
      id be all over him if it wouldnt get me arrested LOL

  31. housewifeaddict says:

    I still feel that Joey Gorga may be just as bad as T.

    First of all he’s a PIG who behaves like a PIG for the camera crew – and is so stupid he has no idea what a PIG he is. Poison and zit. Yes he sure complimented his wife by saying she looked hot so he got horny and now he’s mad at her. Oh vey!

    Second, I can’t get over the feeling that he wants fame for Melissa as much as T wants it for herself. And I don’t really care if T didn’t help M get on the show, or actively discouraged it. M had access to the camera crew and producers – she could have strutted her stuff. Gads – they cast Kim and Kim.

    T’s no more messed up with her family that Caroline is with hers. Yesterday’s blog comments had lots of discussion about how C doesn’t even talk to her other brother (who is a business partner of Chris), and may not even talk to Dina any more.

    T absolutely has a lot of denial going on with her role in whatever is going on. Of course she’s part of it! She could probably benefit with therapy or a life coach or something. But with her hubs and parents backing her up, she’s being enabled. Good for C and J to try to help her through it. It took a long time for the situation to get this way – she probably thought Joey and M should be happy for her success; they thought she should throw them a bone or two. NEITHER IS ALL RIGHT OR WRONG.

    • Caitlin says:

      Wow – excellent analysis – and I agree with so much you had to say. There are more “blind spots” in this whole situation than one can shake a stick at! T. is like the ultimate narcissist who can only feel her own pain while refusing to recognize that others have a right to their own pain, upset, feelings of abandonment, etc. She is mortally wounded by any hint that she ought to change, while insisting that others must alter themselves for her comfort level. Plus, and I almost hate to say this, but I find I have less and less tolerance for the butcher job T. keeps doing on the English language, and it seems to be getting worse with each episode – almost as if she is proud of displaying the breath and depth of her ignorance. Anyone else feel that way?

  32. HW Addict says:

    Anyone notice Caroline wasn’t doing any lifting? I am much smaller (weight wise, same height) than she is and I would have been able to strap a mattress on my back while carrying boxes up the steps! Can you say “lap band surgery”?…

    • MAMAZ says:

      Yes. I thought saying she was too small to help was BS but didn’t connect it to the lap band thing.

  33. Mary says:

    One more thing…
    The Zarin Family Trust sounds just like George Constanza’s Human Fund. A made-up charity in order to pocket the money. This new grab for money is so transparent and once again proves this woman Jill Zarin is evil.

    • MAMAZ says:


    • Stella says:

      OMG I miss Seinfeld. I still love watching re-runs. Last week I had a consultation with a surgeon and she had read my file and she said “Let me tell you what I know about you” and proceeded to list my medical problems and then she says “and you are OCD” I know that about myself but I didn’t know it was in my file and I thought to myself, “What, am I Elaine?” I don’t have a Kramer friend to try to get that file to take it out though. 🙂

    • Whisper says:

      Love Seinfeld!

  34. WindyCityWondering says:

    IMO – it is JOey Fidget who wants to be on tv! And at the end of the day – it is Bravo/production company WHO CAST the housewives. Melissa didn’t make the cut the first go around and she is there because of TERESA. Teresa, Caroline and Jacq are sticking together and after seeing the new additions I can totally see why! Kathy is pleasant – big deal. Melissa is too into herself. And Joey Gidget is an egomaniac and he just needs to go away!

    • Amber...Real Wife says:

      Psst THEY ALL WANT TO BE ON TV!!! Even the parents, cousins, hairdressers, roommates, local clothing store owner, the prusciutto slicer, the stockboy and the BrownstoneBussers!

      Not yelling at you WCW, just stating the obvious. As too cool for school as GreasyGuidice tries to be he’s a camera ho who’s raking in a check! The ManzoMutts are cheesing for the camera in goofy slackjawed ectasy and now Lauren is clamouring for attention much to CarolineManjo’s chagrin.

      So….All reality stars, big and small, greasy and clean are…. camera whores who are self-centered and believe the world can’t wait to meet them!

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        ITA that they all want to be on tv – but JOey Fidget wants it more than anyone else – it’s like he wants people to know who he is instead of being there to make his wife look fabulous. He is very repulsive to me, more so than his sister if you can believe that!

        • Getagrip says:

          I can believe it; I feel the same.

        • PF says:

          He was ridiculous on last night’s episode. If he were my husband….I’d be so embarrassed!

          • Getagrip says:

            I’m guessing she is 😉

            • Cheri says:

              What’s with those hats, does he wear them to bed also? He can’t even take them off while eating and it’s really starting to bug me (well every thing about him bugs me). Is he in some type of competition with Teresa in who is the horniest?

    • DJ Loops Fruit says:

      lol at the JO FIDGET

      i just keep picturing him in drag and lmao

  35. quincyil says:

    Since we have been following Teresa Giudice, it’s time for a rerun of her legal problems so that new visitors to this site have information about her bankruptcy. There are files above in the black box on the top of the site.

    Teresa will be going to court this summer even though she claimed that she didn’t know anything about this on the Today Show a few weeks ago:

    “There are two different adversary cases pending but they are both ultimately about the same thing.
    Her original bankruptcy petition, Case 09-39032-MS Giuseppe Giudice and Teresa Giudice, was filed 29 October 2009. This was a Chapter 7 filing, seeking to discharge all debt (except those they reaffirm).
    “The trustee is the guy who basically is hired by the Court to take control of the estate. He has to figure out what property there is and protect it until all the claims by creditors and claimed exemptions by the debtors can be sorted out.
    The trustee – John Sywilok – filed an adversary action Adversary Proceeding #: 10-01845-MS to object to the discharge. That case is scheduled to go to trial on July 14.
    Then there is also the U.S. Trustee, who seeks to promote the efficiency and protect the integrity of the Federal bankruptcy system. To further the public interest in the just, speedy and economical resolution of cases filed under the Bankruptcy Code, the Program monitors the conduct of bankruptcy parties and private estate trustees, oversees related administrative functions, and acts to ensure compliance with applicable laws and procedures. It also identifies and helps investigate bankruptcy fraud and abuse in coordination with United States Attorneys, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and other law enforcement agencies.
    The U.S. Trustee, Roberta DeAngelis, also filed an adversary proceeding to object to the discharge. That case – 10-02150-MS DeAngelis v. Giudice et al – is scheduled to go to trial on October 13 & 14 of this year.””

    If you look at the files, you will see that Joe and Teresa may not have filed their taxes, but they turned forms into the bankruptcy court with numbers on pieces of paper. Who knew the courts would look to see if your actually filed state, federal and local taxes when they were researching your net worth and the bills you owed?

    So when you see her fingernails perfectly done, the new car, the fabulous home, the walk on a beach in Florida in a bikini while holding hands with Joe, her husband; you might wonder how she manages all of this. I don’t know how she does it.


    • Kukulet says:

      Quincy Says: So when you see her fingernails perfectly done, the new car, the fabulous home, the walk on a beach in Florida in a bikini while holding hands with Joe, her husband; you might wonder how she manages all of this. I don’t know how she does it.

      Who knows what credit cards they have in what names? While that wouldn’t necessarily pay for their home, it certainly could pay for the rest.

      I have a friend in Vegas who has had a successful dental practice for 40 years. I used to manage his books for him years ago. In his wallet, he carried over a $1 million in credit, divided between six cards. He didn’t live on nearly the scale that the Guidices do, and he certainly didn’t scam people-but imagine, if one successful dentist can carry that much honest credit in his wallet, how much people like Teresa and Joe can carry in scammed credit?

      There are lots of way to live above your means in the USA if you are dishonest enough to juggle numbers. And we know the Guidices are exactly that-dishonest scammers.

    • T-REX says:

      Yep, you own a Pizza place, that doesn’t really “make” pizza to “launder” money, well, allegedly. If I owned a pizza place, no way a Dominoes or Pizza hut box makes it in the house, plus Juicy didn’t even know where the place was, and I am sure they don’t even know what their own Pizza parlor pizza tastes like.

      • quincyil says:


        Last summer Teresa talked to people magazine and said that all she needs is “a fresh start.” She filed chapter 7 which would wipe out her debts. She has claimed that her house was never a part of the proceedings, but since her house is an asset, I would wonder why they excluded it.

        Sonja house was a part of her filing for Chapter 11, which is a reorganization of debt unlike a clean slate that Teresa wants.

        • Kukulet says:

          It’s possible that the house is not in their names, or a trust was set up in their daughters names and the house is considered an asset of the trust. There are a number of legitimate ways to hide an asset from a bankruptcy court.

          • Christine says:

            I have never practiced Bankruptcy Law but it was part of our course load in law school. As I recall, credit card accounts are closed when you file. This prevents you from running up even more debt that you plan on being absolved from. I don’t think the Court or American Express would appreciate your continuing to charge things that you have no intention of ever paying. As for the house being in the names of the children, as this is not the norm and if J & T did transfer ownership into their children’s names, the Court would look into when it happened. If it was just prior to or during the filing of the Bankruptcy action, the Court would see this as an attempt to hide assets. Further, children cannot own real property until they reach age of majority, therefor someone, a guardian or attorney, would have to hold title for them.
            I don’t give them any credit for being that smart. This is a woman who thought it was alright to lie to the Court about her book deal advance and both J&T have no problem with ignoring the IRS. Judges do not like liars and cheats. IMH(legal)O – they are in deep doodoo.

      • DJ Loops Fruit says:

        they showed them bot at it so surely someone must know how to get there LOL

    • Kansas Girl says:

      When filming was starting for the season, didn’t we hear that she was being cautious of what she said and showed? Now that we see what was filmed, she was not cautious at all. Not only do the trustees have notes, they have video evidence!

      • quincyil says:

        I am sure the creditors record the show also. If they owed me money. I would do everything I could to legally get them to repay me.

  36. LOLing says:

    This ep in a nutshell:

    Teresa: She never bothered me. I know people like her and I just take them with a grain. I don’t hold her to a different standard b/c she’s on TV. I finally realized in this episode something though. She reminds me of a girl in my sorority in college. She was a nice girl, had her moments, but nice enough and fun to hang out with. At the same time, she was always “in a fight” with someone over some slight or another, but she always had friends, so to speak. But you literally could not have a convo with her that had anything of substance. She was always looking at her watch (no cell phones in 1995! LOL), or looking around the room, you could be in mid-sentence and she’d see someone else and wander off. If you called her on the phone and call waiting came in, she’d “forget” you were on the other line or she’d talk to someone in the room. She was a total scatterbrain. Unless it was about her…but even then you couldn’t get her to understand anything unless it was what she wanted you to say. I remeber there was a major war with her that lasted for MONTHS b/c she colored her hair red and one of the other girls said “I liked you as a blonde”. It was ridic, she made it nasty. It was hair. She actually told her roomates mother that her roomate had disappeared for “days” when the mom called looking for her. Her roomate was at her boyfriends Fraternity Formal. This girl knew that, but then “forgot”. After a 2 day police search they found the roomate happy and drunk in Baltimore. Her reaction? “Oh, sorry, I forgot”. OMG!!!! This is Teresa! I just dealt with her by saying hello, making (very simple) small talk and hightailing it away. God knows where she is today….

    The Gorgas: Melissa is gaining some redemption in this ep. We will see if my theory on her pans out in the rest of the season. But if I have have to hear Joe Gorga’s pimple/penis analogy again…there’s just not enough brain bleach! So, clearly both Gorgas like to discuss sex. I am suprised there are only 2 of them.

    Kathy: Nice car, love her husband Moe Green, but stay out of it and never cowtow to Caroline again. Did you have to kiss her ring? LOL.

    Jacq: You know, I beleive that J overcompensated w/ Ashley for everything that has happened (the divorce, the move etc). Now we are paying the price for that overcompensation. She’ll grow up eventually. Hopefully!

    Caroline: Yawn. And oh, NEVER SLICK YOUR HAIR BACK AGAIN! She called Danny a sweathog reject (which I agree!), while she channels John Travolta. I half expected her to jump on the table and start singing “Greased Lightening”! With Kim D as Kinicki, natch. (RIP)

    • HW Addict says:

      Moe Green, great reference! LMAO!!

    • plainviewsue says:

      Even better, Caroline channeling John Travolta!!! Is it possible that I am actually finding Caroline more annoying then Teresa???? Nah, I think it’s a tie.

      I want to know what happened with Joe’s court case about forging his brother’s name to get a drivers license.

    • Stella says:

      The chick you described sounds A LOT like my friend. He talks for 95% of the conversation and then can’t even pay attention to what I’m saying. He goes on and on and on about himself and interupts me all the time. We used to work together but in different offices and when I called he would forget I was on the other line or start talking to people in the room with him. We used to bicker back and forth and he said it was like we were married and I told him it wouldn’t be for long since he keeps committing phone adultery on me.

  37. Rhetorics says:

    Good Morning! Since I’ve been away, I’ve been keeping up with the shows and blogs. I have a HUGE question and, hopefully, some of you know the answer. I saw the Really Old Housewife of Manatee County blog. She is so funny and clever! BUT, her last blog (her last forever apparently) discusses Kim G harassing her because of what some of Kim’s neighbors posted. There is a law suit against ROH and possibly her address was made public. Of course this is all alleged. (don’t want to get this site in trouble too!) Lynn,, Quincy, anyone….Do you know about this? Thanks!

    • quincyil says:

      Sorry, I know nothing about this. I hope she will be ok soon though.


      • Rhetorics says:

        Thanks Q, If you don’t know anything, I don’t know who would. I just saw two or three of her blogs and then she said she would not be blogging any more. She did post some background on it that may still be up if you want to take a look. It just makes me so mad that Kim G (the fame ho of all fame hos) can ruin someone’s life like that…allegedly.

        • quincyil says:

          I never got “into” twitter conflicts or read other blogs. I just post here.

          I have a twitter account, but I only comment on the shows.

          I make sure that the word, “opinion” and the First Amendment of the US Constitution goes on this board all of the time.

          Everyone knows this is an opinion space. We give reasons for our opinions and the reader should draw their own conclusions. I have done this since this blog went up last year.

          If you look at Lynn’s posts, she will mention that everyone has a right to their opinions too.

    • JrzGal says:

      Yeah, Kim’s neighbors (assuming they were her neighbors and the stuff was true, who knows online) posted a bunch of not so nice stuff about Kim G. Kim and her publicist/ maybe married boyfriend/Z-list hanger on had a lawyer send a Cease and Desist to her. How they found her and her address I am not sure, but Kim G. does have $$$ so I am sure it isn’t too difficult. So that’s pretty much it.

      I think there is no lawsuit per se, unless she removed the comments, which I am not sure she did. Kim G. is a very bored, nasty old lady! Plus, she’s bitter that her role on housewives parlayed into nothing…except a make out session and reality show (possibly) with Michael Lohan. Let’s say it together: Kim G. is an EPIC FAIL!

      • Rhetorics says:

        Thanks for responding JrzGal, Kim G make be a fail, but I hate that ROH is no longer posting. I haven’t read but a few of her blogs, but she seemed really fun and should not have this brought on her by a wannabe. Kim G in a make out session; I think I just threw up in a mouth a little.

      • Getagrip says:

        Kim G……………well, I was shocked to see her again. Please BRAVO, make her go away…again…and never come back….what a shrew!!

  38. T-REX says:

    Didn’t have this link until today, for anyone visiting the Jersey Shore this season, a stop may be to this ceremony. This Veteran raises a flag daily during season, and note that each flag raised was a flag once atop a casket of a Veteran that served this country.


    • Getagrip says:

      Thanks for this post; it is really moving. God Bless America and those who fight for her every single day!

  39. boston02127 says:

    Jill Zarin—What’s up with the Zarin Family Trust?

    We know you’re here, we know you read this blog.

  40. boston02127 says:

    Does anyone know who’s name Kelly’s Hampton house and her apartment is in? Does her ex own them with his name on them?

    • quincyil says:

      Realestalker has an article on the house. It says Giles bought the property before they were married. I don’t know who had the name on the title now.

  41. boston02127 says:

    Jill’s tweet~~If you use foul language and curse I will block you. Twitter has young people reading it. Grow up!
    Jill—-You have a foul mouth on TV, you use the F word all the time and it’s beeped out. Stop being such a hypocrite.

    • vilzvet says:

      I cannot believe she tweeted that…her mouth has been disgusting this season, and doesn’t she realize young people may be watching the show? More would be watching TV than reading tweets to her, idiot!

    • nathania says:

      yeah, cause that effin b*tch Alex McCord’s husband is on twitter too, and he and spread eagle Alex and him have some animals, I mean kids, and they might read the twitter, so keep it clean.

  42. skogsstig says:

    I bit the bullet. I transcribed Jill’s monologue on AOL. This way you at least don’t have to listen to her. I used caps to show her emphasis.

    I’m Jill Zarin from the Rael Housewives of New York City. And you’ve got…conflict resolution.
    The premise of New York City was never for all of us to be Kumbayah friends, but it is about alliances. So I have a couple of friends. And this season it is about the brunettes versus the blondes. Everybody talks about talking about each other’s backs and gossip and I mean, really, the premise of the show is to talk to each other and to talk behind each other’s backs. So when the women start saying “You talked about me” and “You talked about me,” I think it’s so RIDICULOUS because that’s what the TELEVISION show is about. A bunch of hypocrites. I make the analogy of Real Housewives like summer camp and some of the girls you get along with all of the time and some of the girls not so much and some of the girls you sort of want to throw out of the box. But since you know you’re coming back next summer, you can’t, and you have to try and you have to try and get along. I miss some of my girls. I miss the brunettes, and you know what? Caalll me, we got to have lunch.

    I think the biggest lesson I learned from the show is to have a higher tolerance. Don’t be so sensitive and to let things go. Last year it was hard for me, because I was holding on to a lot of anger and resentment. I mean it is what it is. I don’t apologize for that. I felt what I felt. So this season I think I’m a lot more mellow. Except for when it comes to RA-MONA.

    • skogsstig says:

      edit: “Everybody talks about talking *behind* each other’s backs…”
      Sorry. She talks a mile a minute and needs to take a breath now and then.

    • quincyil says:

      I don’t talk behind Jill Zarin’s back. I saw things directly to her.

    • T-REX says:

      Based upon this recording alone, JZ needs to never cry on camera again about how “anyone” on the planet is being mean to her, because she said on camera that this is all “playacting” and True BS and they are making all this up for the show. And JZ has to remove any reference to “bullying”, being “bullied” on any further Blogs, Tweets, Reunion shows, etc. unless she finally admits that she is the only true “Bully” on this show and that her “Bully-in-training” KKB is following her horrific foot steps.

    • PF says:

      The only thing is Jill, you may not be coming back next summer! LOL….she is delusional!

  43. Kelly Anne says:

    I am so sick of hearing Jill say how “rough and hard” last year was for her and that this year she feels better and mellowed out. We get it- you’ve said it at least a million times this year. Plus, we all know she brought it all onto herself last year so she gets what she deserves.

    • plainviewsue says:

      I so agree. It’s interesting how she calls out to her brunette friends for playdates. They prob can’t stand her either, but needed to take a side for the show to be filmed!!!

      Cindy is the worst of them all. Ramona gets her on the show and she sides with Jillousy. Doesn’t she see how Jill treats her friends???? Oh yeah, the psychic said she has a big heart. How much did Brad pay that fake to say that????

      • nathania says:

        Cindy has really crashed and burned horribly this season. Talk about squandering opportunity. Wow, has she ever.

        I held out hope for her but she just seems to be directionless on this show. I can imagine maybe with running a business and the twins she really did not want to give the show too much thought, she grabbed the housewife with the best connections to her target demographic and said f*ck it about the rest. It’s like she’s just ‘here’ doing a commercial for vajazzle or whatever every time she’s on the air. And probably very early on in filming decided she didn’t like it enough to come back for a second year so just phoned in the rest of it, essentially.

  44. boston02127 says:

    OMIB—You have a mission, I can’t buy liquor yet 😦 Anyone else in MA?

    Ramona is heading to Massachusetts for a bottle signing at Julio’s Liquors in Westborough tomorrow, June 1st, from 5-7 pm. Not only is this a chance to meet the Real Housewives of New York star, but it also benefits a great cause! A portion of the proceeds will be donated to hunger initiatives in Worchester County.

  45. kbinldo says:

    Shameless plug: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/8106347/psychos_and_psychics_with_a_dash_of.html?cat=39

    great recap, Lynne! I wonder how that psychic was sooo accurate for Jackie. It’s not like she hasn’t been broadcasting all the drama with Ashley via Twitter & stuff. 😉

  46. Getagrip says:

    Jill seems to be the kind of person who is your “friend” only if she sees you as less than she is so she can feel superior and take you “under her wing”. The “proof” for me was when B started coming into her own J started losing it; making up sh## so she could again feel superior. A true friend would have been crowing from the rooftops about how proud she was of her friend, not doing everything she could to minimize and/or derail her success. Since she so craves the spotlight she is not likely to bask in the glow of someone else’s good fortunes. She will keep chipping away at anyone on the show she feels has more success (can you say Ramona here?) than she. It’s sad, but I don’t feel sad for her as she is not willing to change but instead keeps promoting her “poor me” mode ad nauseam. If she could, just once, stand up and say she was wrong because of her own failings…..well, I guess I still wouldn’t like her because it’s just gone on for too long.

    • ramonacoaster says:

      I’ve always wondered about the mutual friends that Jill and Ramona share and what they really think of the both of them. What goes on in that social circle and whose team are they on? Does Jill try to put people down and talk behind their backs also? I remember Season 1 Bethenny saying Jill Zarin is “like black licorice. Not everyone likes it. But she happens to love black licorice.” Did she mean at the time not everyone loves Jill? Then there’s “the caterer” and newly wedded Jennifer that came to Jill’s defense when Bethenny spoke about Jill at Ramona’s Labor day party and told Ramona that Jill cornered her and upset her at her wedding. I saw on facebook there is a page supporting Jennifer as a housewife but that could be a tongue in cheek gesture. I think it would be interesting mix if Bravo looks for another housewife whether it’s Jennifer or someone else in that social group to shed some more light on Ramona and Jill’s relationship or even Ramona and Jill themselves.

      • Getagrip says:

        I think B meant that she liked J……at the time.

        • Error404 says:

          No. I think she meant that like black licorice, Jill comes on strong. You either love her or hate her, but you never confuse her with vanilla ice cream. B at the time thoght she loved black licorice, but having spent s3 up all night with heartburn from eating too much, the idea of black licorice now makes her want to puke.

  47. V-NY says:

    Hello everyone. I hope everybody is having a good day.

    I personally cannot stand Caroline manzo, and usually the Queen B’s are my favorite. Her attitude and her sentiments of superiority are quite disturbing and tiresome to watch every year. Her life and her children’s lives seldom hold any interest for me. Also, her sons seem less attractive to me this year.

    In the past, I used to hate Teresa because she frequently bulled my favorite NJHW, Danielle Staub; I felt that Teresa needed to learn some humility. However, even though I thought I would have loved to see Teresa’s actions to others bestowed to her, I really don’t like it. I actually feel sorry for her, and this type of drama is too sad to watch.

    I love Kathy! I would be friends with her in real life if I lived in that area! She reminds me of some of my Italian American relatives here! I also love the decor of her house because it is not as ostentacious as the others, and it is very charming. I also love thec choice of colors and the little furniture that I was able to see on tv. I also like the size of her house too. Her behavior and her lifestyle do not display any attempts to impress the audience, which I like and is quite praisworthy. She’s my NJ HW favorite!! {Carloine and company…less is more biotchessss…..ssss! }

    Melissa is beautiful; Italian women know how to represent our people! Teresa is beautiful too- so beauty is not lacking in the Giudice/Gorga family. I do like her too(Mel), and from what I can see, she seems to be a good person, inside and out. I cannot pick a side between the Giudice’s and the Gorgas. Italians are known for having emotions that can boil blood and cause deep resentments and vendettas that can divide families for generations. It is a better sterotype of my people then the mob one; the latter I find to be quite offensive, and because of that, I refused to watch the Sopranos.

    I think Jill looks beautiful in whatever hairstyle she decides to wear. She has a beatiful heart, beautiful mind, beautiful body, beautiful hair, beautiful heritage, beautiful religion, beautiful appartment, beautiful mother and sister, and a beautiful family. I just want to give her a hug!! She’s too cute for words!

    Also, how many episodes are left in the RHONY season??? I may have to buy season 3 on DVD so I can keep watching the NY ladies. I only saw about half of season 3…so it’s always good to catch up.

    o0o0o I love KIM D too– she reminds me of people that I know too. She’s a cutie pie too-I love her personality. I have a soft spot for Italians!!!
    Ciao Ciao a tutti!!

    • justanothermary says:

      Hi Jill

    • Kukulet says:

      I think Jill looks beautiful in whatever hairstyle she decides to wear. She has a beatiful heart, beautiful mind, beautiful body, beautiful hair, beautiful heritage, beautiful religion, beautiful appartment, beautiful mother and sister, and a beautiful family.

      I see Kelly has gotten a new roll of word of the day toilet paper.

    • Rhetorica says:

      Hi Vinny – right? I agree w u about Caroline. I think I’m on team Melissa; she seems saner than Tre. Still disagree about JZ, but that’s what we do around here – it’s ok.

      • V-NY says:

        Hi Rhetorica, yes it’s vinny.
        I think as the season progresses, I will try to pick a team. I need more evidence and background information to clearly pick a victor. Melissa is definitely saner, and I think she even has a brain; that’s a bonus!
        As per JZ-it’s quite alright if you disagree lol.

    • alicia says:

      Jill could be an attractive person if you didn’t know her. Once you do she’s ugly, ugly, ugly. From an Italian in Florida.

      • V-NY says:

        Hi Alicia! Italians are everywhere! lol. I get excited when I meet fellow Italians!! Nevertheless, God Bless America. I am always grateful for living here and for being able to share my heritage and learn about another’s heritage; this is what makes the USA a special country! I hope that she can recover quickly and prosper once again.

    • Error404 says:

      Just curious V, which half of s3 did you watch? The first half where Jill tried single handedly to ruin bethenny’s career? Or the second half where she panicked and ran around like chicken with it’d head cut off trying to take it all back? I suggest mixing it when rewarching. First watch the episode where bethenny tries to apologize even though she did nothing wrong, but Jill won’t even let her in the house. Then fast forward to the episode where Jill brings her cold fried potatoes and cries because bethenny won’t be her bff again.

      • V-NY says:

        awwww…the potato latkes episode and the ice-skating was my favorite episode. Jill was rocking in that cute outfit;she knows how to dress.
        I saw like every other episode and the 3 part reunion. I tried to find the DVD at Barnes and Noble today, but they didn’t have it. Maybe Target sells them? I wasn’t interested in season 1 of RHONJ.
        Btw- I made the latkes using her recipe-they were delish.

        I honestly don’t care what Jill did or did not do. I don’t care what Ms. Frankel did to Jill or what Jill did to Ms. Frankel because it is in the past, and that is where it belongs. I will always think highly of Jill because of the good that she has done for the benefit of our society and NYC.

        • dsc60 says:

          “I will always think highly of Jill because of the good that she has done for the benefit of our society and NYC.”

          can’t think of how jill could have benefited our society. ah, you must be talking about the Zarin Family Trust.

        • FLG says:

          Are you sure you weren’t rocking to Countess Squash Blossom High Horse’s horrid little single and blinded by one of her necklaces as you typed that?

        • BessiB says:


    • Whisper says:

      I know we are to respect eveyone’s opinions here,
      but am I the only one to feel that I am in a “bizarro world” episode of Seifeld where everything is opposite?
      JZilla is/has:
      Beautiful heart? she has none; cold blooded BI
      beautiful mind? she’s out of her mind
      beautiful body? maybe if I saw her without her squishware( and drank every ounce of booze in the bar)
      beautiful hair? with or without extentensions & clairol nice & easy
      beautiful heritage & religion? won’t touch that
      beautiful mother & sister? Oy Vey! beauty is in the eye of the beholder or Crypt Keeper
      beautiful family? won’t touch that either, except I don’t like greasy slicked back hair old men
      Wake me up PLEASE!!!

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      So the Manzo boys seem less attractive? What about their “Mister” Greg?

      Do you think Greg gay? I thought it was implied with their nick name for him and that he had his dog dressed in pink but I didn’t see enough of him to know strongly one way or the other.

      • LOLing says:

        He is out and proud. He makes very hysterical comments about the shows on Twitter. He is definitely openly gay.

        • FLG says:

          ITA, my gaydar went totally off the scale, and it’s fairly well tuned. That puppy graduated from RuPaul’s Drag U.

      • V-NY says:

        Albie looks depressed because of what happened with his law school aspirations. He has sullen face, which makes him appear less attractive this season. I never cared for the other brother’s looks-he is cute, but not my type.
        As for Greg, there is a 65 percent chance that he is gay. They compared him to Lauren, so he may share some of her personality attributes.

        • LOLing says:

          No Greg is 100% gay! It’s no secret, he is out.
          I feel bad for Albie, being disappointed professionally (or working towards your aspring profession) at that age is so frustrating. He needs to find himself.

        • FLG says:

          65%? That boy was on the first ferry to Fire Island this past holiday weekend.

  48. MAMAZ says:

    Maybe someone from NYC can answer a couple of questions for me.

    Is there still an important social set in NY? And do any of these women really represent that set?

    I read Truman Capote’s biography this winter and it went into great detail about the socialites of the 60’s and 70’s. They really didn’t behave any better than the Housewives but they were VERY discreet. When Capote threatened to write his book describing their affairs and squabbles they turned their back on him for good. He died alone and mostly unloved.

    • Getagrip says:

      Interesting! Don’t mess with $$$!

    • Error404 says:

      The set exists and none of them will have anything to do with tv.

      The closest you get is jules darling kirby and that was such a disaster it only proved the point. Lol

      RHNY women are not “society”.

      • quincyil says:

        I bet there are levels of society in NYC. Jill is a member of the society with fabric salesmen husbands. Sonja was a lot higher on the scale when she was married to Morgan even though I don’t like her because he was mean to Sonja.

        I really don’t care about society stuff. I would rather spend time with the 70 year old farrier who rides horses with me and he didn’t go to high school and he lives on Social Security. I like talking to him about politics, horses, and growing stuff.

        • alicia says:

          I know this is off-topic, but i’m now paying 165 every for weeks for pads and shoes on four feet. What is the price in your area??

      • Kelly Anne says:

        Correct. Not society. RHNY women are what you would call pretenders. They want to be in Manhattan society so they pretend. Luann is a very good example of this. She is not in elite or high society and has nothing to do with the Social Register. Period.

        • nathania says:

          it’s really sad to me because she is the one that stands out the most in that that is truly ALL she is. I mean, it’s her lifeblood, being a pretender, her soul is like a ghost lost in her body probably. Pretty messed up.

    • Kukulet says:

      The “social register” group in NY are not a group that the HW’s belong to. For the true “social elite”, think Brooke Astor, Stockard Channing, Kyra Sedgwick, Glenn Close, Babe Paley – people from very old, very prominent NY families. Jill Zarin, LuAnn DeLesseps, and even Sonja Morgan don’t qualify. Sonja probably comes the closest, but only via her ex husband.

      There are actresses and “creative” types in that set-but they operate on different levels than the HW’s. You wouldn’t catch Stockard Channing on a reality show like RHW.

      • MAMAZ says:

        Thanks everyone. I wasn’t sure if that sort of thing existed anymore or if they were all clamoring to be on TV.

        • Kelly Anne says:

          I’m hoping they’ll do a Real Housewives of New Orleans to show how ridiculously funny New Orleans southern society with the balls and debutantes. I’ve lived down here my whole I think it’s funny when some people are so enamored with it taking it very seriously. I personally think it would make for great tv.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            That would be delicious and a nice change from the violence and criminals…BravoAndy loves New Orleans….that would be a delicious and nice change from the violence and petty drama.

        • Kukulet says:

          The Social Register still exists, but the guidelines for being listed in it have gotten looser over the years. Not enough to include the housewives, though.

          Even though he never did publish “that book”, Capote’s biggest boo-boo was insulting Babe Paley with the one story that was serialized. That finished him.

    • LOLing says:

      Many moons ago, I worked for a department store in New York City as an intern. The real society women (who did come into shop) were always polite, kind and many times..unless you “knew” who they were, you wouldn’t always know they had more money then God. Especially the older ladies. In fact, maybe 10 years b/f she died one of the salesgirl found Brooke Astor lost and confused wandering the store. She never would have guessed it was her. The real society women were really very normal. maybe a little proper in a sense. But normal.

      The Jill Zarins and the Ramonas are the type of customer (and we had a lot) who are “new money” (nouveau riche) who would bitch, moan, yell, insult and pretty much make your time with them hell. If they were not pleased that second, if you didn’t not just kiss, but actually lick their asses, they would have no problem asking for a manager, throwing out names and asking “do you know how much $ I spend here”? That is Jill and Ramona and Luann.

      The real socialites would NEVER be on TV and they pretty much do anything they can to shun those types. Those ladies are not even a little bit of a part of NY society!

      • FLG says:

        Loud Applause!

      • nathania says:

        It reminds me that a vet I used to work at when I was in my late teens used to do the shots of a black standard poodle named Blackberry (and this was the very nondescript vet office on the side of town that was considered ‘poor’ and the building was built on an old landfill, rather than one of the vets the rich people used on the other side of town). I was there one day when his owner came in, it was a woman who wore a sweatshirt and what seemed like polyester pants with wedge shoes with those the thick rubber heels. Completely unremarkable. I later saw a portrait of Blackberry and his owner, Mamie Cecil, whom I had seen that day at the vet, when I went on a tour of the Biltmore Estate. You just never know about people, but the more people make a big deal of it, usually the less there is to their story.

    • FLG says:

      In JoAnna Carson’s house!

  49. Jezzibel says:

    Way off Topic…(I apologize if anyone is offended by the topic or the language)

  50. quincyil says:

    According to Teresa’s twitter, she and Joe are now in California. I really feel sorry for Teresa’s children Their mom is a star, but I don’t think she is home very often.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The Guidices have a court date around the corner and the outcome could drastically change life as they know it. This may be a family vacation.

    • BambiBaby22 says:

      The same could be said about Bethenny. These reality stars need to strike when the iron is hot. I am sure they all leave their children with respectable adults.

    • error404 says:

      with all of the things going on in the G kids lives, I’m sure not spending 365 nights a year with their mom is one of the lesser problems.

  51. A lot of reality show blogs are writing about the Radaronline story about Ramona being jealous of Bethenny. Most of the bloggers think that Jill is the one who planted the story. She isn’t fooling anyone. Why does she keep doing this? LOL

    • justanothermary says:

      You simply cannot fix stupid.

    • VAGirl says:

      And in the meantime, Bethenny is laughing her skinny, rich butt off!

      • BambiBaby22 says:

        Why do Bethenny fans always say this? So do her fans think Bethenny is the type of person who would be so ungrateful for what she has been blessed with that she actually laughs at others for not making the coin like she has?
        It doesn’t say much to me about Bethenny perceived personality.
        If that is the case, wouldn’t Bethenny be laughing at her “fans” for buying her goods and supporting B’s lifestyle?
        I am just asking.

        • VAgirl says:

          For some reason you have a problem wth my opinions today. I don’t think Bethenny is laughing at others who are trying but not making “the coin” like she is. I think she would wish them well. I do think she probably finds the petty public “unnamed source” plants and spats going on between the houseives amusing. It’s so amatuer. Sorry if you’re not understanding where I’m coming from.

          • FLG says:

            I think Bethenny would be happy for any of the housewives who worked hard and found success. I think she would say and feel that there is room enough for all of them to be successful. I had competitors in my business and we all wanted success for each of the others. There were plenty of customers for us all. We each had our little extra thing we specialized in, that separated one from the other, but we from time to time would help one another out. None of us ever tried to “crush” the others. It’s totally unnecessary.

  52. Mayblurry says:

    I don’t understand why the Gorga’s think it’s all Teresa’s fault. I know Teresa feels like she deserves an apology as well, and I don’t think she’s wrong there. He called her garbage and feels he did nothing wrong and it’s Teresa who needs to change and beg for forgiveness. I would never be the one to bow down after being called such a thing.
    Joey: You’re garbage.
    Teresa: You’re right. I’m sorry. I am. I should be licking the bottom of your shoe, dear brother. You are the most important person in my life and I am a failure for not being the best sister to you.

    “It was nice to see Joey Gorga complimenting his wife the way he did and it is clear that he adores her.” Oh Lynn. I usually agree with you but god with this NJ stuff I just can’t. You must be skipping over all the nasty Gorga scenes. I guess every woman wants to be called a MILF and appreciated for 24/7 sex service. How about Joey telling his daughter to go clean up after her brother’s mess? Cause that’s a woman’s duty and all. Or the constant sex talk in front of the kids while they were taking a bath…I felt icky watching it. I hardly got an adoration vibe.

    • T-REX says:

      “He called her garbage and feels he did nothing wrong and it’s Teresa who needs to change and beg for forgiveness. I would never be the one to bow down after being called such a thing.”

      I understand GorillaJoe said that to his sister, totally inappropriate, and yes she needs an apology, maybe. BUT, you don’t start a brawl at a party for a Baby, with all these kids and family around, that’s why she and Juicy are probably garbage. Look, I have a brother and there were times years ago, that we didn’t see eye to eye on things, and words exchanged, but we never came to “blows” over it. Teresa-Gorilla did a lot of nasty things to them previously and there are issues there, but good grief at a baby’s christening is not the place to “fight the good fight” for your reputation.

      • Getagrip says:

        She didn’t start the brawl, the men did, both of them. Too much testosterone in the room….drunk testosterone…

        • T-REX says:

          See, from what was has been written about the incident, Juicy didn’t “hear” Joe-gorilla call her garbage, he said it, and then Teresa-rilla made a big deal about what was said knowing Juicy is so hopped up on Roids(I think he is on way more than just natural hormones) that he will start a fight at the drop of a hat. I know women like Teresa, I worked in a bar, and these types love it when some sort of fight is caused because of them. Don’t know why these women are like that, but Teresa-rilla has egged on fights in the past, this is nothing new for her. Good grief, she practically flung Andy C to the floor in her fight with Danielle, this woman is NOT normal. Look I am not sticking up for her brother in the least, he was clearly wrong, but what a “normal” person would do is brush the comment off, leave the event, and take up the issue later when no kids are around

          • Getagrip says:

            There’s no doubt she has that “switch”, but in this case, no dice.

          • nathania says:

            you are right.

            the first time that table went flipping up into the air, and Terroresa started screaming ‘prostitution ho-ah!’ while clinging to the Empire State building and swatting at the airplanes…wait, wrong movie…but anyway, just because someone told her to ‘pay attention please’, pretty much should have convinced anyone of her psychotic tendencies. Why people are still holding out hope for this one is beyond me. Probably because she actually says and does things that they secretly wish they could say and do. There are places for people like Teresa though, and folks who can’t control their violent impulses, and they are called jails and mental institutions.

      • Mayblurry says:

        Teresa may have done nasty things to them prior. But how do we know their full story? They may have done nasty things to her as well. What we read online are planted biased stories from each camp. I also don’t believe Teresa & Joe Giudice were solely to blame for the brawl. There were plenty of people at fault there, including the Gorga’s and the guests at their table.

        • Getagrip says:

          Joey was the one pounding the table and he was the first to jump up and charge.

          • Kam says:

            IA. He could be holding a grudge with Teresa about other things. The christening, however, is something he needs to own up to.

    • Rabble Rouser says:

      I agree, I didn’t take Joey’s comments to be complimentary at all. Calling someone a MILF isn’t a testament to their beauty, it’s predatory remark that says “I want to throw them into the mattress”.

      He was rude and angry at his wife for not having sex with him; he didn’t care if the kids were watching. The first time we met Melissa she said she was raised to be a whore in the bedroom. By the way her husband treats her, I guess she fulfilled all that grooming.

      • BambiBaby22 says:

        Well, he DID leave the kitchen to “cool off”, maybe he took things in his own hands……

      • V-NY says:

        @RR- Being Italian, I cringed when Melissa made those statements…Italian women are not brought up the be wh*res in the bedroom, especially if one’s parent was born in the 30’s and 40’s!!!!

        • Kats2 says:

          There is nothing from my Italian upbringing that I relate to. These people DO NOT represent Italian Americans. Like any other nationality what we see on this show is the worst Bravo could find.

          • BambiBaby22 says:

            I never once thought that this is how ALL Italitans act. That would be ridiculous.

  53. Kam says:

    I think Teresa has a difficult time expressing herself. She wants to make a point but can’t formulate sentences to do it. It’s hard to watch.

  54. mariareads says:

    I only watched RHNJ while cleaning up and putting away laundry last night (fun!) but I looked up and saw Caroline Manzo at some point and thought -she looks gaunt. I think her weight loss last year was very becoming but her face looked haggard and drawn last night and it has aged her. Almost 50 doesn’t look like that. I know she is very fair skinned, but still, she didn’t look right. Above somewhere I think lap band surgery was mentioned, but I don’t think she was heavy enough to qualify for that. It’s a dangerous surgery. At the most I thought she had 20 pounds to lose. Might just be me but it certainly didn’t appear that she looked healthy. Anyone know anything about it?

    • V-NY says:

      I think her fair skin is what ages her along with too much weight loss. My mother is approaching 53 and she looks magnificent! Italians and other people from southern Europe age gracefully because of a combination of diet, reduced stress and skin tone. I also think Caroline’s controlling demeanor and personality excacerbate the aging process. I also feel that Caroline doesn’t enjoy life…
      Less Stress + limited sun + excercise + good diet + (sex-as per The countess) = Eternal Youth/the fountain of youth.

    • Kam says:

      I think she looks fine normally. It was that one scene where her hair was slicked back that I thought made her look a little thin and frail.

    • T-REX says:

      She’s probably had the “lap-band” surgery which makes you lose weight rather quickly, and unless you modify your diet properly, you will eventually gain weight back.

      • mariareads says:

        But I don’t think they give lap band surgery to people who are not morbidly obese. It’s a risky procedure. She doesn’t strike me as the type to do a quick fix for the little bit of weight she might have wanted to lose.

        • T-Rex says:

          Money talks! I have heard of some getting the procedure when they only have about 25 pounds to lose, yes, it’s supposed to be for obese people, but you would be surprised at what some unscrupulous folks will do for money.

    • PF says:

      Stress over the economy…she was on Cavuto’s show talking about the hit the Brownstone is taking, AND stress over her kids leaving home. At least that is what I see.

      • V-NY says:

        Has Caroline gained weight? I have yet to see her in real time. She looks better with a little meat on them bones…and a donkey booty.

      • alicia says:

        Caroline needs a hobby- why isn’t she volunteering anywhere?
        She should do dog therapy in retirement homes, they would love her. She has too much time to think.

        • Kats2 says:

          Hard to help others when you are so caught up in your kids and friends business. I really think she is going for some kind of talk show, the thought makes me sick. That’s why I’m kind of enjoying the tension between her and Teresa as Caroline keeps giving advice no one wants.

  55. Kam says:

    I was expecting a little more from Platinum Hit, but I guess it’s entertaining enough for a summer show. I agree that it needs time & it’ll be difficult to blog. I like Jewel. Kara will most likely get on my nerves.

    • quincyil says:

      I play the piano and helped my kids with their instruments when they started, but I know a lot more about art than music. I cook, but I am no chef so a lot of Top Chef vocabulary is difficult for me. I am essentially a vegetarian who does like like to look at meat. LOL…The things I do for this board. rotfl…


  56. Kam says:

    Wait, Joey is Teresa’s only brother? I thought she said on WWHL that they have another brother.

  57. SOS says:

    It looks like Teresa and Melissa are wearing the same dress in that promo picture just in a different color. Shoot me but I think Teresa wears it better. She has a more shapely figure. Purple looks good on Jacqueline but I don’t like the layering. I also don’t like the pink thing on Kathy. It looks cheap.

    • T-REX says:

      Teresa-rilla and Melissa are not wearing the same dress, they are both sparkly, but the “cut” of the dresses are completely different, actually Melissa’s dress is closer to the cut of Caroline’s dress.

      • SOS says:

        Now that you mention it, I can see the difference. I still think Teresa looks better in this shot.

        • Error404 says:

          I was thinking the oposite. Mel looks modelish bod. Ter thrusting her store bought bazooka boobs out is so unattractive IMO.

          • SOS says:

            Teresa looks tighter or more toned imo. I don’t know how. She doesn’t seem to exercise. But her body looks good in tight dresses sometimes, especially in this photo. Her hair looks great too. You can’t really notice the forehead from afar.

  58. Logan says:

    Does anyone remember on Housewives of NY in either S1 or S2 when Ramona said something to Jill like “Let me bring you down to the Social Register to show you how to behave” and Jill fired back “Tell me where the Social Register is.” LoL it’s a book Ramona.

    I guess talking about NY society made me think of that.

  59. Getagrip says:

    Joey G: Schmatta Head (I never leave home without it…er I’m never anywhere without one) 🙂

  60. WindyCityWondering says:

    Melissa spent her whole blog defending her husband – why does a grown ass man need defending? Kathy’s blog is a travelog for New Jersey summer activities. And Teresa’s was MIA when I last checked. Guessing that writing is not one of their talents!

  61. Laura says:

    The JZ lovers have found Yahoo! Answers…..


    Kinda sickening really….

    Anyone else watch Basketball Wives? I noticed today its Shed Media, same company that does all the RH of series…they have their hands in a lot of todays “reality” eh???

  62. HeyAll says:

    Wow. I almost forgot what Caroline used to look like before seeing that picture of Dina, her and Teresa. S1 is not really fresh in my memory.

  63. Nancy says:

    I’m watching NY Housewives from last week right now.
    I find it weird that they all are saying “This is be a trip of a lifetime”
    Excuse me but hasn’t the “countess” been all over the world with the Count and Kelly with her modeling career? Why would this be the trip of a lifetime?
    I have skated all over the world but My trip of a lifetime was spent with my husband,
    not 28 other skaters.

    • HeyAll says:

      Maybe it was Bravo asking them to amp it up for the show but you’re right, it’s silly.

    • Error404 says:

      I will translate for you: “this will be so much better than ramona’s st John trip!” like all things team mousy-brown-with-a-little-grey it’s an epic failure.

      • Nancy says:

        I knew I could count on you for my brain to switch on.
        Of course this was meant to slam Ramona.
        God they are jerks.

    • nathania says:

      They were talking about dropping acid together while all the blondes were sleeping. 😉

  64. butterisafruit says:

    I so wish Wall Street Lady was still posting. She would be ideal, explaining the Social Register. ………..
    You need to be approved by a committee. First you have to have a detailed explanation of your family. We need to get our applications ready for submission by August for the Winter Book. I know a little about it because when I was a teenager we used to goof on these things. We would fake a biography and submit it to the Register. We used to say we
    went to Miss Porter’s School for Girls and our Moms graduated Radcliff. We came up with some dillys. We had a ball.
    Anyway I found the link http://www.socialregisteronline.com/faq/

    Here is another.

    • Nancy says:

      OMG We should do one goofing on Jill.
      Maybe she’ll be able to stand on the “Step & repeat” for a photo?

      • butterisafruit says:

        heheheh Nancy.,
        Jill probably just went running to Bawby to find out why SHE isn’t in it!!

    • Delighted says:

      I actually do know a bit about the Social Register and can assure you that none of the women on this show could ever qualify. End of story.

      • LOLing says:

        Please no one take offense to this…but Jill’s being Jewish, would keep her off the list. The people in there are straight up WASPS and well, Jill is not.

        I thin you need a lineage a specific net worth and a connection to the blue bloods of the country. I know the Social Register was an offshoot of Mrs. Astors (the original Mrs. Astor, not Brooke) 400. I remeber learning all of this at the Astor House in Newport, RI. I want to look up the rules now!

  65. Anastasia Beaverhausen says:

    Jill is a bumbling snake oil salesman. When she knocks over her salvos all over her rented Loubitans, she has a hissy fit and blames it on the blind guy minding his business on the other side of the street.

    She’s an unexamined spoiled brat with entitlement issues. Her sock puppets sprouting up all over the web is a prime example of how dumb she thinks we all are. I’m lookin’ at you, Susan Saunders.

  66. Cabbie413OOT says:

    hey yall, i’m out of town! Just catching up on the blog!
    Single ladies and basketball wives on vh1, and Toni Braxton family values reality show would be better to blog than Platinum hits, it’s a dud! I watched the braxton sisters on a marathon the other day and boy are they an entertaining bunch!!!

  67. Nancy says:

    Back to the Trip of a lifetime.
    When the “browns” arrived Kelly said to Jill “That was great their all good and happy”
    then (of course) Jill responded with “Don’t believe a thing you just saw”.
    I don’t think I’ve ever “known” someone as miserable as Jill Zarin. But this is what I hate her for the most. Before she came into my life I did not spend 8 hrs a day tearing someone apart on line and then feeling good about it. Seriously. She really has played a number on me. I used to be kind.

    • Error404 says:


      Well, Jill brings a certain clownishness that makes hating her fun. Getting mad at villains like bin Ladin isn’t light or fun. Laughing at a bored housewife who spends all day writing fake positive reviews of herself all over the www is pretty damn funny. I salute you Jill zarin for being such a brilliant clown!

  68. tweatcyn says:

    OY- Is Vinny From NY back? V-NY.

  69. Nancy says:

    Why did Jill have to put the image of her & Bawby watching a “Pay per view” sex tape together? Sorry folks I’m out of here. Going to the rink to hopefully skate that image right out of my head. Talk to you later 🙂

  70. Rabble Rouser says:

    OMG- the unbelievable just happened. Bravo posted TWO of my comments.

    • Error404 says:

      Kadooze! Who’s blog?

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        One one Caroline’s and one on Kathy’s. And the one to Caro wasn’t nice either.

        Quick, everyone post..there must be a leak in the damn…hurry before Andy sticks his finger in it.

  71. Kats2 says:

    I have a lot of reading to do but wanted to add this now –
    Poor dumb trashy Teresa, she tries so hard in her Bravo blog to be klassy and take the high road. But her blog is full of digs to almost everyone on the show but specifically Caroline. Let me reinterrupt the message Teresa is sending Caroline this week.

    “STFU, you were not part of the click, you’re the old one and if you don’t like me F off”
    Caroline can you read? Don’t ya think it’s time to put this dog down?

    This comment in particular I thought was not only true but it is Teresa’s true colors shining through, she couldn’t even hide it in the blog.

    “If you need someone to help you beat a bitch down because they’ve offended you, I’m your girl.”

    We know Teresa, we remember you’re from Patterson, NJ. You never met a fight you didn’t like or start.

    Anyone who even attempts to defend this piece of garbage or support her on twitter or buys her book is a moron!

    • Va says:

      Ok. No need to call people morons for having a different take on things.

      • Rabble Rouser says:

        What would be someones rational for defending Teresa (not about the baptism but in general) or buying her book?

        • Va says:

          I don’t know but I wouldn’t want to be called a moron for an opinion about a reality star. I also hope people stop mocking or laughing at V-NY for his opinions. He clearly sees things differently, even if I don’t agree with everything. But some posters kind of joke with him like he’s some stupid child that doesn’t get he’s being laughed at.

          • V-NY says:

            awww ty VA- I can tell the difference between when people are laughing at me ..that’s why some of my comments are a little esoteric . lol.

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            I don’t think anyone thinks he is stupid in the least.

            I think most of us don’t understand where he is coming from; and some of us think his trusting nature is attributed to his youth but I’ve seen plenty of people here who think kindly about him (myself included) despite not agreeing with him.

      • V-NY says:

        Hello Kats2

        I actually interpreted Teresa’s blog as explaining to the viewers that Caroline has the same exact issues in her family. Therefore, Teresa will not take advice from someone who clearly cannot fix their own issues. Hence, Teresa will not dispense advice on an issue that she has yet to fix as well.

        • Kats2 says:

          Hi Vinny!!!

          I know! that blog was a passive/aggressive slap in the face to the Big C.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          IA – it was kind of a don’t throw stones Caroline cause your house has windows too…but Teresa also doesn’t want advice that flys in the face of her fantasy.

      • Kats2 says:

        Teresa vs. Melissa – no winners, pick a side it’s a trashy low class fight and I’m not siding with anyone. That is not what I was referring to. I have no issue if you think the Gorgas are worst than the Giudice’s. Sorry to be gross but to me – It’s like comparing bowel movements, it’s all shit.

        However, when it comes to her book promotion and criminal activity (I mean bankruptcy) you bet. See how she is cruising around Jersey (nice car, clothes, jewelry) ANYONE who would support this garbage and spend a cent of their hard legally earned money on anything to do with her is a moron.

        • boston02127 says:

          Give T a break, she’s going to cook her way out of bankruptcy. Ha ha ha ha….

        • nathania says:

          I honestly think this is why Teresa won the poll on WWHL so handily. People reserved judgements on Melissa and did not vote. Teresa fanatics and paid internet poster(s) voted Teresa up. So poor Melissa got creamed, not because people were so against her, but because they just didn’t know, and she is similar in some ways to Teresa. I would love to see a tally on how many people actually voted in that poll vs. how many people vote in their regular polls. My guess is that the numbers were lower than usual, probably by quite a percentage. I wish they had not started the season with the christening smackdown, because so many people were shell-shocked by that that they just did not know what to think.

          I find Melissa entertaining in the same way as Gretchen on OC, or Bethenny, or Sonya Morgan last season. I have yet to find her offensive, and I think she has miles more “class” than Teresa. But beyond that, it’s a bit too soon to tell. It’s almost a shame that via Teresa was the only way she could get on tv, she is a natural on camera and really lights up the screen, but the association with Teresa Guidice might work against her more than for her.

          • Whoa says:

            She’s a whore in the bedroom and a chef in the kitchen…classy. I really don’t like Melissa at all.

            • nathania says:

              that saying has been around forever and ever and ever….

              it’s far from original and it’s no big deal that she said it out loud. This is the oldest mention I could find of it and it’s Jerry Hall quoting her mother, so there is really no telling. I had certainly heard it decades ago:

              “My mother said it was simple to keep a man, you must be a maid in the living room, a cook in the kitchen and a whore in the bedroom. I said I’d hire the other two and take care of the bedroom bit. – Jerry Hall, (1985)”

          • BambiBaby22 says:

            Why is it hard to believe that people have already formed an opinion of Melissa and that opinion is not a good one?

            • nathania says:

              ‘not a good one’

              is far from what has been posted here, with people calling Melissa a ‘little b*tch’ and ripping her sisters to shreds and making all kinds of insinuations about their motivations based on their maybe having uttered two sentences in their total of about three minutes of camera time. I think the people who are stewing in abject hatred for Melissa have outside knowledge of the dealings in that family (or maybe are members of it)…no one should feel that kind of passion about someone that has only been on tv a couple weeks…the evidence just isn’t there. Dislike is one thing but the vitriol is unexplainable. I think those folks are getting their private, extraneous knowledge of the family gossip, etc, mixed up with the scenes of Melissa’s that have actually aired.

          • LOLing says:

            She has “Seasontwoitis” except it’s still season 1 (for her) 🙂

    • V-NY says:

      I would love to know what the familial issue are in the Manzo/Laurita clan??
      I hope Teresa will tell us!!

      • Kats2 says:

        They would never admit it, remember this is a family that has a history of the adults hitting each other and making up. (Jac hit Caroline, right S1 reunion). They are a very dysfunctional clan. So hating on each other because of the show they would deny, deny, deny. I’m sure they still think they are keeping score and Danielle would win. CRAZY

        • V-NY says:

          Jac hit Caroline?? I don’t remember that…I think I need to rewatch S1..

          • Kats2 says:

            Andy mentioned it at the S1 reunion.

          • LynnNChicago says:

            Don’t suffer through the whole season, they talked about it on the reunion, that’s all you have to watch 🙂

          • Rabble Rouser says:

            Long story short, sometime after the birth of Chris and Jax oldest son, she left Chris alone with the baby for a few hours to have some time to herself/girls night out. Chris punked out and called his sissy Caro to come help him with the baby.

            Jac came home home and Caro laid into her, saying stuff that I imagine was out of order. And Pow- right in the kisser.

            • Sparkles says:

              Somehow I never knew that. Wow. Good for Jac!
              And it’s ironic too…Caroline said that Kathy shouldn’t have said Tre abandoned her baby because “thems fightin’ words.”
              I guess Caroline learned that the hard way.

    • nathania says:

      I imagine if Melissa and Teresa make up, and bring in some other 3rd party to jointly hate next season, which is a distinct possibility in housewife land, Caroline could be pushed right off the show. I find Caroline to be almost confrontational with Teresa this season, like she is trying to push her as hard as possible, maybe to instigate conflict on purpose. Because Caroline needs some controversy…it’s kind of funny to sit there and watch Teresa refuse to take the bait, because she does not want to fight a war on two fronts, one with the Manzo/Laurita leavings and one with her own family. It’s like Caroline is saying ‘c’mon, you know you wanna piece o’ me’ and Teresa is like ‘whatever’.

      Caroline/Luann de Lesseps are essentially the same person anyway, I get the feeling Bravo keeps them around for their bland appeal to advertisers which is kind of seen as a stabilizing influence for the show. It’s definitely not for viewer appeal, because they are so boring.

      • Kats2 says:

        “Next Season”? Oh crap

      • LynnNChicago says:

        WOW This is SO SO SO True! The only thing is I think that instead of Teresa saying “Whatever” I think she’s seething inside because she’d love to take the bait but she knows she can’t fight another battle and she needs Caroline right now. It’s sort of fun watching Teresa squirm!

    • nathania says:

      holy crap did she really say that about ‘beat a bitch down’?


      please don’t make me go read her blog to find out….

  72. AZ Girl says:

    I can’t comment about Hwonj because I am still trying to catch up.

    But The Jill Zarin Family Trust and having her make the impression that it is a charity. Lynn has got the ball rolling on this. Some of you may be familiar with wills/trust law in NY. Her auctioning off a dinner and clothing to benefit herself without FULL DISCLOSURE O.K. gang get out there and bring in the information that will blast this out of the water.

  73. quincyil says:

    Million Dollar Decorators is on tonight at 9 Central and I think it’s going to be interesting. Bravo will follow decorators around. One of the people featured is the person that Karen from the show “Will and Grace” was based on. Remember Karen, she was Grace’s secretary who never did any work. How this turns out will be interesting.

    I love decorating show…and building shows..

  74. BambiBaby22 says:

    The way Kathy’s husband, Rich ate his soup made me want to….well, you know. Not only were we privy to his slurps, but also his gulps. So gross.
    And BTW, the PROPER way to eat soup is to scoop the soup AWAY from you with your soup spoon, if you don’t believe me, just ask the countless! haha.

    • Kats2 says:

      I almost thought for a minute that you were the Countess with that little soup slurping lesson.

    • Sparkles says:

      I don’t care which way you move the spoon, but the slurping was atrocious. I commented on the last blog about it. It’s not a matter of manners for me; just please don’t make my skin crawl.

  75. VAgirl says:

    Please correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Jill copying the same advice that B had in her Naturally Thin book? It’s been quite a while since I’ve read it. Poor Jill, wants to be Bethenny so bad. Next thing you know, she’ll be writing a diet book!


    • V-NY says:

      I do like her advice on killing her food with water. Everytime I spill water on my food, I call it the Jill Zarin trick! lol.

      • lillybee says:

        Alexis does the same thing, too. And tries to do it on the other diners’ food, too.

    • boston02127 says:

      She’s headaching!!!! Just reading this is headaching. Jillethenny will never be Bethenny no matter how hard she tries. Also, recently she looks the heaviest she’s ever looked.
      “I watch what I eat every day,” the reality star, 47, tells me. “When it’s going in, I’m negotiating. I’m constantly negotiating. If I’m going to eat the banana bread now, which I’m going to do because it’s right in front of me, I’m not going to eat as big of lunch, because I have self-control. I do. Moderate self-control. That doesn’t mean I’m not going to eat the banana bread, though.”

    • m293131 says:

      I thought Jill’s dieting secret was to put salt and water on her meals so she isn’t able to eat anymore!!!

      • Kats2 says:

        I don’t like that method it is such a waste, I rather bag half for a homeless person. Such a lack of control and waste. Very bad advise.

  76. BambiBaby22 says:

    Eating everything in moderation? This has been sound advice since the beginning of time. It has been repeated by Oprah, Richard Simmons, Susan Powter (remember her?) and many other weight loss “gurus”. It is stretching a bit to say that this “moderation” thing should be credited to Bethenny and that Jill wants to “be” Bethenny because she eats a normal amount of food.
    I have NEVER noticed Jill having a weight problem.

    • VAgirl says:

      OMG Susan Powter – Stop the Insanity – LOL. I didn’t say Bethenny came up with the idea of eating on moderation, just saying Jill is parroting what B said in her book (just taking bites of things you want, don’t deny yourself, take half of your dinner home, etc). Jill is a Bethenny wannabe but it’s never going to happen.

  77. Kats2 says:

    Oh Vinny! You and this Jill Zarin Crush – I just don’t know how or why this happened to you, but I have hope and I thought the following would help build a bridge.

    There’s a place for us, Somewhere a place for us, Peace and quiet and open air
    Wait for us Somewhere. There’s a time for us, Some day a time for us, Time together
    With time to spare, Time to learn, Time to care Someday Somewhere We’ll find a new way of living We’ll find a way of forgiving Somewhere Somehow Someday.

    Love Kats2

    • LynnNChicago says:

      LMAO Kats! 🙂 you’re hysterical!

    • V-NY says:

      awww that’s so sweet.
      I know that my love for her deviates from the norm, but I just find her to be fascinating. She reminds me of my bffl from high school that moved away after graduation. It’s a challenge to keep in touch when somone lives all the way in Florida. So, when I watch Jill on TV, I am reminded of all the fun times we had in high school together. Also, she was the only Jewish person in our Catholic High School, so everyone who watches RHONY from our class remembers her!

  78. Kats2 says:

    Ok the new design show on Bravo – so far very interesting, but lord these interior decorators have some major egos.

  79. TLM says:

    Is anyone else creeped out by Joe Gorga talking about how “tonight’s the night” with his wife while she is giving the kids a bath, and saying it’s been four days? Does he really think their daughter doesn’t understand or soon won’t? What a pig. And calling Melissa a MILF in front of their kids? Does he think the older daughter and son aren’t going to ask adults or other kids, “What’s a MILF?” What a dolt. Already I could not stand him for telling his older son that cleaning was “for girls to do.” He’ll soon learn how much kids understand. And that analogy of sex to “popping a zit that shoots across the room” was just lovely.

    This is someone who has no discretion or self-control. Had he not banged on the table at his own son’s christening like a child having a tantrum, that whole fight would likely not have broken out. And he just should have said “thank you” to Teresa rather than telling her to take a walk and calling her garbage, even if she thought she was insincere. It was Joe Gorga who started that whole brawl, and Joe Gorga who can take credit for ruining that day. And that screeching at his father? So obnoxious and embarrassing. Those discussions could have happened any other day. Joe Gorga just couldn’t hold it in and keep it together for a few hours.

    I had to laugh when Teresa told that woman she was “in the fashion industry.” She bought hair barrettes for Macy’s — that was her “fashion” experience. Oh, and she’s also an “author” — an author of recipezes and ingredientzes. Such a great author that she has no concept that a letter that tells her brother, “What are you doing, wake up?” is NOT a peacemaking letter, and it takes her an entire day — as well as an entire forest — to write, “I hope we can make peace.” Doesn’t Jacqueline have a computer that Tree could sit at to do her 9,000 drafts of this letter?

    I feel badly for Kathy. I think she’s the only one with any sense in that family.

    • Whoa says:

      I think Kathy is fake tbh. Don’t feel bad for her.

      • VAgirl says:

        There is nobody on that show I feel sorry for except for the kids.

      • TLM says:

        Idk, I feel she is sincere. I know some people think she is involving herself to get camera time but I don’t get that desperate sense from her like I do from Kim G and Alex McCord this season, who I feel are so transparently stirring up drama and being more outspoken just to have more face time. I think it’s a matter of time before Kim G says she used to be a man, just to ensure she’s in a few more scenes.

        Kathy is actually Teresa’s cousin and does have a real interest in keeping peace so all the kids remain close and family ties don’t dissolve because of Joe and his sister. It’s sad that Teresa, who admitted on camera she didn’t know where her kids were during part of that fight, attacked Kathy. Granted Kathy probably shouldn’t have brought it up since she was dealing with someone who would always be defensive. Look at how Teresa wouldn’t even listen when Caroline was trying to talk to her.

        On an unrelated note, I am totally jealous of Melissa’s body!!! And she says she has never worked out?? Aaaaccckkk!!!!! Skinny bitch!!! LOL. The woman doesn’t have an extra ounce of fat anywhere. I don’t know how anyone looks like that in a catsuit after 3 kids.

    • BambiBaby22 says:

      I think Kathy is trying to find her way on here to make herself relevant. Right now all she knows is to stick her nose in Teresa’s business.
      I think we will see a whole new side of her when the cancer storyline is revealed.
      She is just a little chubby, so I am sure next season she will be a size 4.

      • TLM says:

        LOL Bambi – if being on the show makes you lose weight, I’m calling Andy TODAY to sign up. I’ll do anything! LOL.

    • nathania says:

      I love Kathy but I don’t feel bad for her. She’s used to it, that’s her familia and I guess she just rolls with the punches. I was really touched by her husband’s affection for her tonight…he seems like a total peach. To me the sentiments he expressed on camera would have meant a lot more to me than the car (but I’d still take the car, of course).

    • Sparkles says:

      TLM, ITA re. Joey. The zit, the poison, etc. was too much!

    • Kukulet says:

      I was creeped out by the bathroom scene and the zit analogy. That was…yuck. I think even Melissa was uncomfortable over it.

      And I agree that the christening brawl was Joe Gorga’s fault. What was wrong with a gracious “thank you”? Pretend you have class there for a second, Joey.

      I’m totally turned off by both Teresa and her brother. It’s like watching two gorillas pick fleas off each other.

      The whole franchise is sliding downhill. It’s just brawl on top of backstab on top of snark. It’s boring.

  80. Queen Butter Bean says:

    Just read that Kim Zolciak gave birth today to a baby boy – Kroy Jagger Biermann. She announced it on her Twitter.

    • VAgirl says:

      Congratulations to Kim and Kroy. I wonder what his weight is? Seems like he was going to be a bigun.

      • TLM says:

        I wonder if they’ll be having a Sip and See, and if Phaedra will stop by and ask if the baby is an alien. LOL.

    • Nancy says:

      OMG Jill didn’t beat her to the punch!

    • TLM says:

      Wow – talk about timing. They said the baby was expected in June, and May 31! I wonder if she was a C-section?

  81. LynnNChicago says:

    I apologize if someone already posted this but I can’t believe my eyes, Cindy is tweeting to celebrities asking them who’s side their on…OMFG!

    CindyBarshop Cindy Barshop
    Hey @EvaLongoria ! Learned so much from @RallyForKids Im not sure if you follow, but if so whose side are you on regarding #hangergate ? 🙂

  82. Adgirl says:

    Teresa struggling over the note to her brother right after she brags about her book being on the best seller list for 7 or 9 weeks. Yeeep.

    • BambiBaby22 says:

      I don’t get your point. Would she not have editors for her book? Perhaps it is more difficult for her to express her emotions to her brother in a letterthan to write a cookbook. I understand that.
      Her book being on the NY bestsellers list: it is what it is.

      • Kats2 says:

        I’m sure someone wrote the book for her, happens all the time. Her face and name, some of her recipes and the rest is all about selling the book. She didn’t have that much to do with it. Similar to how Luann told her story to someone who actually did the writing.

  83. boston02127 says:

    Sitting here eating my second purple freeze pop, just can’t wrap myself around this gazillion dollar decorating show.

  84. WindyCityWondering says:

    Cindy is an idiot to seek attention regarding “hangergate” because eventually the truth will come out – and NO ONE WILL CARE!

  85. NJBev says:

    Great Blog today, thanks Lynn. so much I wanted to comment on,
    but I read all the posts and ran out of time!
    One thing I wanted to remind you, many months ago I posted that
    Caroline actually has a radio show here in New Jersey! It’s on
    NJ101.5 Thursdays- the name of the show is “Caroline Rules”
    People call in and ask her all sorts of
    questions, from family, children, and relationship.

  86. Adgirl says:

    Who suggested upthread watching Braxton Family Values. OMG. It’s like NJ with sisters.
    Mom Braxton: I’m so excited all of my daughters are singing a record together.
    Sister #1: Toni doesn’t want to.
    Mom: Braxton: She will do it.
    Sister #2: Sister #3 doesn’t want to do it.
    Mom: She will.
    Toni (to her manager BIL): I’m trying to get my own sound together, I don’t want to do it. Maybe a few songs.
    Sister #3: If Toni doesn’t sing all of the songs I’m not doing it.
    Sister #2: I can’t believe Toni is messing with my career.

    etc. etc.

    This is too much like a RH show. LOL.

  87. butterisafruit says:

    I can not find Tree’s book on the best sellar list. Bethany is number 4.
    I find it hard for anyone wanting to buy her book in the first place.

    • VAgirl says:

      I couldn’t either. But maybe I’m not looking in the right place?

      • butterisafruit says:

        I went to non fiction, paperback. A lot of celebs are in that area, Steve Tyler, Chelsea Handler, Paltrow, Bethany.
        I just checked Amazon, and she does have some good reviews. One was awful but that must have been her sister in law LOL.

      • IOU says:

        I was just watching a repeat episode, and I think she said it was on the list for 8 months. It’s possible it has dropped off by now.

    • Fabulicious hasn’t made the best sellers list yet. It has been out since the beginning of May. I think it may end up there eventually but so far, it hasn’t made it yet.

      • VAgirl says:

        Thanks! If I cooked as much as I used to, I’d get it. I hear it has simple recipes, my kind of cooking.

        • butterisafruit says:

          I found a review in the Boston Herald. I might try one of her recipies when I get my kitchen back. Here is the article. I like Mat Schaffer. He’s pretty good.


          • Sara says:

            I’d love to know how to make that tomato sauce and have it handy year round.

            • FLG says:

              There are plenty of good easy recipes online. If you’re growing your own tomatoes. Hubs and I just processed our first crop. We did half weekend before last and the other half this past weekend. We did at least a bushel of tomatoes. We didn’t do them in the garage. We did them in the kitchen. Just decide ahead of time whether you want to freeze or can them. If you can them follow the recipe EXACTLY. You may have a county extension service that can help you as well. I think there are full instructions for both methods in the JOY OF COOKING. An earlier edition may be better for canning recipes.

          • FLG says:

            Now, do we really believe that Tre would know the difference between a flounder and a sole?

  88. butterisafruit says:

    sorry this is the FULL article. It’s late, I’m not responisble for my actions.


    • VAgirl says:

      Thanks for the link.

      • butterisafruit says:

        You’re very welcome. I love to cook so I’m open to any recipe once. But it’s so hot I don’t want to turn on the oven.

        • FLG says:

          if you can get by with small portions, use your toaster oven. Place a sheet of aluminum foil over it to prevent burning the top.

          • FLG says:

            Don’t crimp the edges of the foil, just lay it flat over the top.

            • FLG says:

              I don’t work for Sonja…..LOL

              • Stella says:

                LOL. You’re funny. I’m feeling really crappy right now so thanks for making me laugh. 🙂

                • butterisafruit says:

                  Thanks FLG, are you SURE you don’t work for Sonja?…That was cute.

                • FLG says:

                  Stella I hope you’ll feel better today. I haven’t posted on several of the past blogs because I wasn’t feeling well. I’m doing better today and hope you will too!

                  • Stella says:

                    Thank you. I had been looking for your comments so I’m glad to see you back and glad you are well.

  89. Nancy says:

    Is anyone watching America’s Got Talent?

  90. SoutheastVA says:

    IRT Kelly’s “Feed” clutch find, didn’t Alex wear a “Feed” dress on Season 1 or 2. I recall her and Simon going to a designer’s shop and she specifically picked out a burlap sack feed sack dress. If my recollection is right, wouldn’t this confirm Alex as the true trendsetter/spotter of the group. Also, most younger ladies are wearing the shoes Countless Luann dubbed as “Herman Munster” shoes.

    • Nancy says:

      Of course you are right but never underestimate Kelly’s mind.

    • quincyil says:

      Simon van Kempen purchased the feed top so he is the trend setter. That should affect Kelly more. rotfl.

      • butterisafruit says:

        And I believe he purchased it to help Women’s International. So Kudo’s to him.

  91. IOU says:

    Damn you Kelly. I actually liked jelly beans, except the purple ones. Now I can’t look at them the same.

  92. Al says:

    You pick on people who have a sex drive; is that because you are a fat pig that never gets offered sex? And your throwing stones over Teresa’s command of the Queen’s English is dangerous; take a read of your prose, and rethink your criticism. Fat and stupid; sexy combo, for sure.

    • 523 says:

      I personally don’t like watching someone act like a horny animal on my screen, especially in front of kids. And just because they have a lot of sex, doesn’t mean they have a happy sex life.

    • Nancy says:

      Why are so angry?

    • Al says:

      I just hate haters (so I must have low self esteem) who crap on people for being real. Joe’s wife is hot; both work out and they are in love. Why hate on them for an active sex life? Only reason is our blogger prefers food to sex, with either gender. Her choice, not mine. Add that to a writer who rips on bad grammar and English when she clearly cannot write the Queen’s English any better than she can walk by a buffet without eating.

      • lillybee says:

        I get it. You like Joey G. and Melissa. I don’t have a problem with that. But you do not have in insult people who disagree with you.

        • HD says:

          @ Lilybee I agree.

          To the OP- I am all for great amazing sex, I think it is great when a married couple is still hot for one another but you don’t have to bash anyone else or call names. Everyone on this board knows I am the FIRST one to stand up and say its just sex in regards to Tamara and Eddie, Melissa and Joey, etc but you don’t have to call names. More than likely we ALL have something to work on when it comes to our physical aspects (I know I do) and if it is NOT physical perhaps we need to be working on the INSIDE as well. For real. We all have something be it inside or outside that can always use improvement.

          Peace and Blessings!

  93. @Home says:

    Boy, she’s going nuts. It’s not like the cameras caught Ramona and Sonja stealing hangers from Cindy and then denying it. What is wrong with you, Cindy??? Leave it alone. Heck I wouldn’t care if they DID indeed help themselves to some. They’re HANGERS.

    • SweetValley says:

      She’s hell bent on accusing them with no proof. I can’t believe she can’t seem to grasp how silly it is so she’s asking celebrities whose side they’re on.

    • FLG says:

      If it’s circumstantial evidence were looking for, Countess Squash Blossom High Horse looks guilty to me. She suddenly finds an arm full of hangers………ROFL

      • SweetValley says:

        Lmao. That certainly was the most suspicious thing to come from that very disturbing event.

        I can just see Cindy rehashing this story at the reunion with a straight face, like a victim. I’m going to die laughing.

  94. MichaelEdits says:

    They don’t look real to me

  95. Stella says:

    Don’t know if anyone posted this but Renee from Mobwives sent this tweet:

    @dritadavanzo im watching the nyhws R THEY SERIOUSLY having a fight over HANGERS.. shit MOBWIVES fight over whos gonna get HUNG..

    I absolutely love watching Mobwives. I find them fascinating. And now for that tweet I’m gonna love watching them even more.

    • lillybee says:

      That was so funny, I hope that someone retweets that to Cindy.

      • butterisafruit says:

        I hate to say it but I’m loving mob wives too. And Drita I think is the most fun. And her little girl is so cute. I usually hate watching children, but that little darling stole my heart.

  96. Kukulet says:

    Wow, Cindy has really gone off the deep end over Hangergate.

    C’mon, Cindy. Wakeup. Do you really think Ramona bothered herself to wander all over the house looking for your room to steal a few hangers? That’s what staff is for, dahling.

    As for talking behind your back, who had just been doing the same thing? Ya hypocrite.

    This woman built her own successful business? Unbelievable. She needs some Prozac in her nosebag, I swear.

    Can’t wait until this comes up at the reunion-it’ll be hilarious.

    • FLG says:

      I’m still trying to figure out the proper nickname for Cindy. I like Clarabelle, which I’ve used several times, but Cindy the Muff Mower works pretty well, too. I may be totally wasting my time. If the rumors are true and they’re going to recast RHONY, it may not matter anyway….Mommy Muff Mower?

  97. VAgirl says:

    Good mornin’

    • butterisafruit says:

      Good MORNING!! Thanks Va Girl, I love Gene Kelly.

    • FlowerPower says:

      Ooh, one of my all-time favs!!! Thanks for posting this 😀

      • HD says:

        Good morning, Everyone.

        Just finished reading through the board and the only thing I can say is Good morning and WTF is wrong with Cindy? GTFU!

        • VAgirl says:

          Yeah, even though she is very boring and dull, I didn’t think she’d be one of the bizarre acting ones, aka, Koo Koo Kelly. I think something’s in the water on the NY set!

          • vilzvet says:

            Dull as dishwater and Bravo is deliberately showing her mouth to be as ugly as possible. Go back and watch her right after Ramona gets that fake reading. Ewwwwww with her mouth full of food hanging open as always. And yes, Jill actually asked if Ramona needed someone to “wipe her ass” on the trip. She thinks she is so witty.

          • FLG says:

            Maybe Mommy Muff Mower should pull a RHOM and fire a nanny or two. Then she would have to spend some more time with the twins and she could release her hanger fixation. Hell Cindy, go to the drug store and buy a Chia Pet and watch it grow. Plus you’d have a little something to graze on.

  98. error404 says:

    the muff mogul’s still at it

    @D_Strauss-kahnn: sorry to hear of your recent troubles. Have you had time to pick sides regarding hangergate yet?

    @barak_obama: g8 state o union adress. Hope yr not bipartisan when it comes to hangergate.

    @patti_lupone. I’m a huge fan. Was thinking you could play me in bway musical version of hangergate. Thinking @merylstreep and @glenclose for da blondes.

    @clarrence_thomas: hey c, @jillzarin found a stray pube in her diet coke too when she visited my salon. R the SCJs working on a decision regarding hangergate?

    @bem_weiner13: hey gentle ben. how would you feel if @melgorga took @teressag’s hangers?

    @newt_gingrich: what’s new newt? hey, does the patriot act cover issues of stolen hangers? i mean, someone came right in and touched my stuff!

    • AZ Girl says:

      Cindy knows she is on the “chopping block” for next season. Trying to stay relevant to the viewers but is doing it in a really strange way. She is nuts.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Cindy is a loser – it looks like she is taking a page out of Jill/LisaNewEngland playbook – pretend you know important people/celebrities and tweet them bs. RHNY viewers don’t care about hangergate, why would anyone else? So maybe Cindy should bust a move and get in a fight with another brunette – that would be interesting….maybe.

    • vilzvet says:

      OMG hilarious error!

  99. Laura says:

    I just took a survey online…all about Bethenny and Bethenny Ever After. Asking all kinds of questions about the show, them personally, what I like, don’t like about the show, will I watch if they move to LA…do I think Bethenny is too mean, is Jason too passive? Am I glad they fired Max lol…..I believe I signed up for this through bravotv.com, their Contemporary Consumers surveys…I get surveys about once a week about all the different NBC owned/affiliated programming they have….

    I’d like to think its a contributing factor to Bethenny et al being so successful LOL

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