I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of Orange County – Let’s Chat!

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  1. MAMAZ says:

    Hi Lynn!
    Peggy is grotesque. I think she is the most unattractive of all the Housewives including Danielle Staub. Her breasts are repulsive.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I agree, I wish they’d stop with the close-up’s of her breasts, you can see the veins , it is so disgusting!

    • songbird says:

      I agree! I wouldn’t normally say something about someone’s looks but those aren’t even HER looks. She looks like the lady in scary movie….like the lady of the lake or something….looks beautiful from far away and then you see her up close and she looks like a ghoul. with boobs

      • MAMAZ says:

        And her sister looked so normal and pretty.

      • Mookies1mom says:

        I like to call her Peggy Put Them Away. She always wears a top that really show them off and I don’t want to see them!

        • sue says:

          I agreed with the comment gretchen made when she said she hate to see older women dressing in mini skirts. I dont think she was trying to be mean, she was speaking what was obvious, Peggy is, or really appears to be older then most of the group and I think it would make her more attractive if she did dress age appropriate!

          • nathania says:

            gretchen will probably be doing the exact same thing in a decade or so. I felt similar when i was younger, now I wish I looked as good as Peggy does.

            She has grown on me. She is low key, she seems stable, and she is happy in her life I think.

            I was impressed the way she handled Alexis the last few times. For some reason, Alexis is an extremely insecure woman, when it comes to her looks. Peggy got tired of the constant digs and one-upmanship, and the friendship ended…and Peggy doesn’t seem to care much that it did.

            But it just seems to eat Alexis alive that ANYONE, EVER, dated Jim. So strange.

            Of course, if Jim was feeding her insecurity, that would not surprise me either.

            And why on earth did Jim wait til AFTER Peggy said she was embarassed she dated him. to call Peggy a stalker (not to mention that is the kind of thing you can sue someone for).

            it seems to me, that if that were true, Jim would have revealed the true nature of the situation to Alexis from the word go. But he KNOWS, apparently, from bitter experience how freakishly insecure Alexis is and he didn’t want to hear about it 24 hours a day for the next six months. So he lied. And now, he’s lying again about the stalking business, as if to say, ‘it was her, I never had feelings for anyone except you ever, my love’. Baloney.

            this is a man who just hid assets to get a short sale on a house then turned around and paid cash for the next one. He’s a liar, and everything he says is suspect.

    • Katiecoo says:

      Again, I find her face to be ghoulish. She’s some kind of scary caricature to me.

      Oh and Tamra looked the worst I’ve ever seen her on this reunion..same for Vicki.

      • Anita says:

        I thought it was just me, iboth Vicki and Tamra look the worse they ever have. It must be all the mean anger they keep spewing.

    • TLM says:

      I think she’s an example of plastic surgery gone really, really bad. When she was younger, it looks like she was very beautiful, but facially I think she looks like a man now. The freakish breast implants don’t help.

  2. Alexis vs Peggy is so boring. Boring at the start and still boring. I’d rather watch “who stole the hangers?”

  3. ChiTownRocks says:

    Yes Tamra Sue LOTS of women get postpartum depression

  4. Stella says:

    I don’t know if this has been covered but now that Bravo is being sued over the fight in the Dominican Republic with the HWONJ, will that keep us from seeing the footage? I think I saw a glimpse of it in the preview of the season and they have reportedly been asked to hand over the footage for the lawsuit. I’m just wondering if that will make them re-edit the footage that was supposed to air if they hadn’t already left out the parts that would put blame on their housewives.

    • ChiTownRocks says:

      I saw that Stella, I hope the ChiTown Cop get’s everything he asks for

      • Me too- but you can’t get blood from a stone. There is already a long list of people looking for a judgment from Joe and the Manzo boys don’t really have much.

  5. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    Is it me or does Vicky’s face look really puffy? I think it puffs out more when she is screaming at Alexis!!!

    • NYCer says:

      She does look puffy but I also think it’s a bad angle for her

      • MAMAZ says:

        I can’t remember what blog I read it on but someone said their child saw Vicki and said “that woman looks like a guinea pig”.
        Now I think about that every time I see her, lol.

        • NMhousewife says:

          You’re so right, there is something “guinea pig” about her. Also Tamra has such a strange frozen, yet haggard face. She is a ugly woman made worse with her personality.

          • NYCer says:

            I think Tamra is beautiful, but she’s overdone the botox

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Tonight Tamra is just dreadful-I would never be friends with a woman like that-ever!!!!

          • J says:

            That is exactly what I saw. Guinea pig. Not to be mean..It is just what I immediatley thought watching the show a few minutes ago.(West Coast). The angle, something puffy and her mouth and nose…she seem like a caricature of a Guinea pig. Then I googled to see if anyone saw the same way my eyes did…and her I am with my reply. Whatever it is that caused it, she should stop doing it. Maybe it is medicine, then she is stuck with the result. The crossing herself makes Christianity look bad combined with all the yelling and bad behavior by the way. It makes a mockery of Christ on the Cross.

        • NJ Bev says:

          In the first reunion Vicky mentioned that people called her
          “miss Piggy”
          You could see it

          • Mary Jane says:

            She’s got a pig nose, but there’s also something going on with her neck. It almost looks like maybe she had some lipo on it? Just a guess, but something aint right.

            • TLM says:

              Vicki had the same problem Brianna had, with many small tumors on her neck. She’s had many surgeries over the years to remove them. It looks like that left her neck looking the way it does. She would definitely look better with a neck lift, but Jeana especially needs one, I think. Her face looks like she’s 45 and her neck looks like she’s 70.

  6. If you had it like this says:

    Honestly, I have never seen so much dumbassery in all my life. And I’m talking about all of them. But this Peggy/Alexis feud is the height of stupidity!!

    • Golden Girl says:

      Lol I know.

    • TLM says:

      I’m sick of Alexis’ “Good Christian” routine. She is the most jealous and competetive person I’ve seen in a long time. Not to mention that she was dishonest about what all happened with her house sale, and Tamra called her on it. To throw in that dig at the end about her cowardly husband and not even answer Andy’s question about how the season was made her look completely desperate, and she doesn’t even see it.

  7. MAMAZ says:

    I’m actually sort of liking Gretchen on this reunion.

    • NMhousewife says:

      Me too, she is the lesser of many evils here. I dont’ agree with some of the stuff she has done, but she doesn’t really seem to go after others the way Peggy, Tamra, and Vicki have or do.

    • sue says:

      Same her Mamaz, Just like B, when they portray themselves and not pretend to be something they are not it shines through. Only wish Jill,Melissa, Kelly and many others would get the memo. I am even starting to warm up to T, after she got slapped with a little reality and she learned some humility. I always did feel T held her family up very high (as we all should), but I think she is speaking the truth this season, I really think Melissa is a fake and like I said above, you can tell when someone is being sincere most of the time and I really dont get a lot of sincerity from Melissa, I just get that sneaky,laugh behind someones back feeling from her and mostly from her sisters.

    • TLM says:

      Sorry…she acted so rotten this season I lost all respect for her, and I do think Gretchen was sleeping around on Jeff. I didn’t used to think that, but after all her sighs and “Oh my Gods” when Tamra calls her on things, I think she’s a BS artist.

      The Slade situation is more mixed as to what the truth is. I don’t believe he has these high-level “consulting” jobs with Fortune 500 companies; just how does one go from being a mortgage or title guy to being a marketing consultant with top companies?? I’m not buying it. The situation with his child support payments, however, may be more complicated. Tamra kept referencing public documents, but many things that involve minors and the courts are often sealed. I don’t know what the situation is in California, but even as an attorney in Pennsylvania, I can’t sit in on Family Court and observe proceedings unless I am counsel to one of them. Those courts are closed to the public for the privacy of minors. So Tamra may not be able to verify what Slade’s ex is saying.

  8. Amy Matheson says:

    Can Vicki ever consider shutting her puffy botoxed trap long enough to let anyone else talk? What a judgmental loudmouthed hypocrite.

    Vicki Tamra and Peggy are the Unholy Trinity, but Alexis and Gretchen are no match for them. They are so unevenly matched.

    Ohhh Alexis. I think the only way she can come out of this not being raked over the coals is to keep her mouth shut. It’s like watching a lamb (a very, very dumb lamb) face a pack of hyenas.

    • MAMAZ says:

      You can’t reason with an unreasonable person. Alex makes the same mistake on NY.
      No one is a match for Icky, Trampra or Piggy becuase they will never admit to any mistakes or wrongdoing.

  9. NYCer says:

    These woman are all bitches. Gretchen, Alexis— you are making my ears bleed.

  10. ChiTownRocks says:

    Gawd for the love of Pete someone just bitch slap Tamra for me please.

  11. NYCer says:

    Why do they add Slade to these panels? He is so sleazy.

  12. boston02127 says:

    I rushed home but missed the first 20 minutes.

    Does Gretchen have on one of Alexis dresses on?

  13. Smompy says:

    The newer bitchier Gretchen does make some good points.

  14. Jen says:

    Vicki has a legit point- if my husband was dying I wouldn’t do the show,f the contract but more to the point Vicki didn’t know Jeff barely knew Gretchen why visit? Plus Gretchen herself went on vacation when he was dying- I’m calling it like I see it Gretchen is a golddigger trying to use Jeff for sympathy. She won’t marry Slade cuz he’s broke she enables him to not pay child support. She lied about inheriting money from Jeff and she probably cheated on him which is why she keeps losing lawsuits againt Jay,who won for her deframation of chacater act against him when he told Tamara Gretchen was cheating with him……

    • plainviewsue says:

      I agree with you, and we seem to be in the minority. Gretchen’s argument that she didn’t believe Vicki was bleeding out of her ass & why make a big deal about it cos nobody visited Jeff is ridiculous. Gretchen is a total golddigger & I don’t know why people defefnd her. There is no questioon if Slade was still wealthy, they would have married long ago. But no, Slade has his baggage. Lovely calling his son baggage.

      As for Alexis, she is tied with Kelly as the stupidest housewife of them all. She cannot put her answers together. Yeah, Peggy stalked Jim. Has she looked at his ugly mug lately? And she is blaming Peggy for not telling her? Denial!

      Jeanna defends abusive men; she is still married to the man who abused her for years.

      • PF says:

        Well, Alexis hurts herself. First she says that she doesn’t care about Peggy and her husband because it was fifteen years ago….and Peggy even said they didn’t date, just hung out. Then during a break she texts Jim to ask him more questions about him and Peggy. WHY, if you don’t care?

        • nathania says:

          yeah, I don’t get it at all.

          I don’t get any big emotional anything from Peggy, to me, seems stable, and clearly Alexis has to piss a circle around Jim or any mention of him, remember the fake fight they had at that party because the girl looked at Jim.

          Sorry, but I think this is totally an Alexis thing, and it’s not Jim, it’s Jim’s wallet that she wants to keep control of. If this is how she acts to someone who dated jim a decade and half ago, I bet Jim’s more recent exes are getting deadbolt locks for their doors and bars for their windows.

      • TLM says:

        I don’t know that G is a golddigger, since she’s with Slade; however, her laughing at Vicki being in the hospital and going into surgery, and calling it IRONIC, as if Vicki was deliberately trying to ruin Alexis’ dog and pony show, was sickening. You would think that as someone who was with a man stricken with cancer and in and out of the hospital would take it seriously when someone else they know is in the hospital. I don’t care that she later visited Vicki to save face; she showed her true colors at that farkakte fashion show.

      • Christy Johnson says:

        You may not be in the minority; I know I personally agree with you, but you folks say it pretty well for me! I just want to add that years ago I saw a few moments of RHOC (not knowing any of the particulars of the show) and Jeana and someone were at an outdoor eatery. Jeana made a comment about the waiter and third world country (can’t remember exact words) and I thought it was so horrible I didn’t watch the show for a very long time. So glad she is gone.

    • Anita says:

      So when poor Vicki’s life was falling apart why didn’t she take a break don’t accuse someone of something if you’re not willing to live by the same rules.

  15. ChiTownRocks says:

    Cohen needs to get a grip on this

    • TLM says:

      Are you referring to the 2 minutes or so that everyone was yelling at everyone else and Andy just sat there and said nothing?!? I’m starting to think he takes 2 Valiums before each of these reunion shows.

  16. HD says:

    My has Slade’s lifestyle changed.

  17. boston02127 says:

    I’m so sick of the hair extentions. So old looking.

    • NYCer says:

      OMG Boston- I’m so glad you said that and I totally agree! Doesn’t anyone go with their own hair anymore?

      • Golden Girl says:

        She would look so much better getting that hay chopped off and going darker on her hair color.

  18. ChiTownRocks says:

    Can Tamra’s look get any dirtier?

  19. HD says:

    And Andy has on that yellow shirt and blue tie becauseeeeee……

  20. Jen says:

    Sorry- slade it’s public knowledge in the courts that Slade doesn’t pay child support…..It’s been all over the news

    go get a job at McDonald ass to pay support

  21. ChiTownRocks says:

    There’s she goooooooooooooooooooooo buh bye Tamra

  22. ChiTownRocks says:

    Ah follow Tamra’s Twitter on Slade? Can we say stalking?

  23. boston02127 says:

    OMG….Tamara is calling Slade’s son’s mom! I wonder if they were ever friends.

    • Cusi77 says:

      Tamra can’t go lower… calling the ex-wife… WOW

    • Slade should have dialed up Simon.

      I didn’t think Jeana’s tears were real. Sorry I love Jeana. But…

      I think it WAS hokey that Vicki would text if her butt bleeding was such an emergency.

      Peggy seems so plastic. Alexis is odd but not mean spirited. Gretchen makes a good point that Tamra does to others (butting in) what she doesn’t like done to her. As Tam said “It’s NONE OF (HER) BUSINESS.” I don’t think G is so upset about no one coming to see Jeff as much as they talked so hateful about her.
      Odd comments from Peggy about Jim’s text. I think going to his house because he wouldn’t call her back is odd and kind of confirms what Jim claims.

      • TLM says:

        I want to barf at the fact that this is the SECOND time on this show where it has seemed like 2 women were arguing over Jim Bellino. If I never see or hear about this butt-ugly chauvanistic asshole it will be too soon.

  24. Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

    I can totally understand being angry about Slade not paying child support but Tamra acts like it is her children who is supposed to get the support..it is a little obsessive.

  25. Smompy says:

    Yay, run the next one off now, Slimey!

  26. I wish they would deduct $1000 from their paychecks everytime they walk out of these.

  27. Jen says:

    Yes….!!!!!!!!! The exwife is on the phone pubically saying the truth…..Oh my god what’s Slade and Gretchens come back to this? There is nothing NOTHING he can do/say at this point to make me think he’s not a deadbeat dad

    • Cusi77 says:

      Yes. He is… IF that woman on the phone was really the exwife, then he is liying.

      • NJ Bev says:

        and if Tammy Sue asks the questions exactly the same-
        and repeats the the answers the same. not

        Tammy Sue is a pathological liar. we’ve seen it a thousand times’
        and she lies again going back to the stage.

    • ATLmeetsNYC09 says:

      Tamra knew that probably would happen. They would try to peg her for a liar (she does lie alot) but not about this. Its still none of her business but Slade Smugly is a deadbeat and shes right, he does need to pay child support. I hate men that make children and dont take care of them, they get no respect from me.

      • nathania says:

        I think she is genuinely compassionate about the child thing.

        Because everything she is doing right now is only going to help Gretchen make this decision just to move on. She wouldn’t knowingly help Gretchen make a good decision for herself.

        Of course, I think that Gretchen keeps Slade around because she has the upper hand. She has total control over him, and she knows it.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      But it is a little creepy that Tamra is in contact with Slades ex-wife. If she was befriending the woman to be supportive it would be a little less creepy-maybe-but to talk to her just to prove a point seems a bit high school and completely Tamra-like

      • myname2use4now says:

        An all the while she is mad at Alexis and Jeana for having contact with Simon. She is the least self aware housewife of all of them. And a huge hypocrite as well.

    • NYCer says:

      Slade and Gretchen are stone cold liars and master manipulators. They both have legal judgements against them– Slade for not paying child support and Gretchen for defamation against her ex-boyfriend Jay. Attacking Tamra is just a convenient way to deflect attention. THEY ARE LIARS!!’

    • housewifeaddict says:

      Yes Slade and Gretchen are liars – but I have no respect for Tamra either. Ugh they all make me sick!

    • kit9 says:

      Sorry, she’s an EX-wife involved in a bitter battle with Slade. I don’t take her word for anything.

  28. boston02127 says:

    If Gretchen is so adamant that Slade has job, why the big question of marrying him? She’s talking out of both sides of her mouth.

    • nathania says:

      Child support for two kids.
      Back child support and millions of dollars of medical bills.
      His credit is probably ruined. They will probably garnish his wages if he actually gets some.

      None of which should matter to Gretchen if she really truly loves him. I think deep inside she’s got a feeling that their romance is a show only thing, and suspects on some level he’s as skeevy as Tamra makes him out to be. which is why she can’t let things go with Tamra, it’s projection.

  29. VAgirl says:

    I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY CAN’T STAND TAMRA BARNEY! She has had something bad to say about everyojne on that show and has inserted her ugly nose into everyone’s business, even Vicki’s. She needs to crawl back under the rock from which she came. She has some nerve talking to Slade’s ex-wife. What the heck business is it of hers?

    • MAMAZ says:

      Just like JZ she lives by a double standard.
      She doesn’t know Grayson’s mother.
      She didn’t know Jay Photoglu.
      But she was in contact with both of them to get dirt on her enemies.
      But when Jeanna defends a man she does know, a friend Tamra flips out.

      And all last season Vicki talked about how Tamra didn’t have her back. In other word LET HER DOWN.
      But she just threw Jeanna under the bus because she said Tamra has never let her down as a friend.
      Roll last seasons tape please Andy!

  30. Jenn says:

    Slade’s child support amount was determined when he was making a 7 figure salary. Once he lost that income, he was no longer able to pay the amount based on his large income. He requested the judge lower the amount based on his smaller income but the judge refused. He pays what he can pay, but not the amount that was ordered to pay. If that makes him a deadbeat dad, then there are a lot of decent fathers out there that are victims of the economy that are also dead beat dads.

    • MAMAZ says:

      Really? If that’s true it’s a different story.

      • NMhousewife says:

        this makes me be not so hard on Slade’s situation (although I am no Slade fan, believe me), because my brother was in a similar situation with a crazy ex who got him fired, then gave him problems because of the job situation. He finished paying all required child payments over many years, but after he was done and they were adults, he found out she had filed illegally in another state so that he was actually paying more money than he was required to.

    • Jen says:

      Haha that’s Slades story but….go read the court documents, he owed from back then too plus he claims on TV to have a job tell courts no job ….but gets paid to be on Bravo through Hretchen so has not to have it count towards child support realtitytea has the legal court papers online

      He is a deadbeat Dad. Period. And regardless of Tammy (who is also a liar) his SON suffers , who cares about Tammy Sue she doesn’t matter here. Yes deadbeat dads are a topic I take to heart. Agree Gretchen/Slade are manipulators who know how to hide $ plus the man can’t even keep his dam drivers license and keeps driving on his suspended one- he’s a deadbeat all around

      • PF says:

        Gretchen admitted that if he got a job, they would take his money for child support. So, he works for her while she pays his room, board, and everything else in return so he doesn’t have to pay what they call an astronomical amount.

        • nathania says:


          Did people get that?

          Gretchen openly admits to enabling Slade not to care for his CHILD because she thinks it’s too much money to pay for a CHILD so she pays him instead under the table so he won’t have to pay for his CHILD.
          And that is just the one child.

          Sorry Gretchen, that is as skeevy as anything Slade does. Like attracts like.

          Someone with character would NOT slip a dude money under the table to not pay, they would be like “I can’t be with you unless you pay for your kids, period.”

      • kit9 says:

        Get real. You haven’t read the court papers. Don’t act like you have.

    • NYCer says:

      That’s not really true. Slade filed papers saying he was destitute and the judge told him to look for work outside the entertainment industry.

      Slade is so sleazy he convinced Gretchen to drop her original makeup partner, Ronann, who is now suing both Gretchen and Slade.

    • Tamera is A LIAR says:

      Thank you – that so happened to my brother a few close friends – Alot of people lost their high paying jobs but the child support is still due even if they do not make enough – people should really think before they speak when they don’t know what the hell is going on. Tamera is just pure trash and tried to make Slade look bad as a parent – just like jill threw Alex and Simon under the bus at the reunion with taking pictures in his hotel work place – God I can’t stand that trash or her porky pig face friend!

  31. MAMAZ says:

    Vicki just said a mouthful. She wants friends who will be yes men.

  32. HD says:

    Got to clown Tamara a litte bit, why is everything not anyone’s business when it comes to her shyt?!

  33. HD says:

    OMG! What is going on with Jenna’s neck?! Is that weight loss?!

  34. snarkarella says:

    Tamra is SUCH a bitch! OWN IT BITCH!

  35. MAMAZ says:

    Tamra is still calling it a Cyst and Deceased, lol.
    She’s not only a bitch she’s a stupid bitch.

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      OMG it is the most annoying thing-you would think someone would tell her how to say it !!!!!

    • TLM says:

      I kept cracking up over Cyst and Deceased as well. For those who are also Jerseylicious watchers, I think Alexa is going to give the Gatsby a C&D letter for using the word “Glam” in their promotions, and that genius Briella says, “Isn’t that when someone dies?” when she hears the word “desist.”

  36. ChiTownRocks says:

    Yet, Tamra threw a letter and a drink in Jeana’s face. Yes, Tamra’s evil

  37. MAMAZ says:

    When Tamra grimaces she gets weird little puckers in her face.

  38. boston02127 says:

    Not liking the punk bracelet on Jeana.

  39. Cusi77 says:

    What is that about those “saggy” necks Vicky and Jeanna? Maybe too much sun… I am sure I am older than them and their necks look much older than women their age. IMO.

    • Golden Girl says:

      I think it’s mostly from sun damage.

    • songbird says:

      Didn’t Vicki have neck tumors? It almost looks like surgical scars? Never noticed them before though so maybe it is just sun/aging…

      • boston02127 says:

        @songbird–Yes. She explained it at one point when daughter was sick and worried she would inherit them. Medically I’m not sure what there called.

        • songbird says:

          maybe a glomus tumor…I think they were also around her ears and were not cancer. If she is not using a good SPF on her scars they will become more pronounced.

  40. VAgirl says:

    Vicki is a cold-hearted person. That she could sit there and say her loyalty is to Tamra is really sad. She doesn’t feel sorry the Jeanna is sad. I believe that’s an act just like it is an act that she feels bad for Donn. I wanted to like Vicki, but I just cannot.

    • nathania says:

      I don’t feel sorry for Jeanna either. Jeanna is a walking bag of pathetic. She needs serious help and therapy. she just oozes misery from every pore.

      I do not believe she would have involved herself in this without the potential to show up back on the show. I think her motivations were selfish, it was exposure and being part of the housewives again.

      • TLM says:

        Jeana is a hot mess.

        Defending Simon when she knows nothing of what happened behind closed doors. STILL being married to Matt, even though she’s living with her boyfriend. And Matt still stays in the same house when in town? WTF???

        I don’t know how they got her into the dress she had on at the end of Thintervention. There is no WAY she is a “size 6” as she claimed at the beginning of this show. Those must have been some magic Spanx they got her into.

        Although I agree it’s ironic Tamra called the police because Simon threw something at her face and then in turn threw a drink in Jeana’s face, if Jeana continued to go to the press and say what she was saying, not to mention telling me to “fix this” and that Simon shouldn’t be in jail, I think I would lose it on her as well.

  41. LynnNChicago says:

    Hold me back…there’s a lost footage episode of OC…lawd save us!

  42. Amber...Real Wife says:

    I am STILL suspect about that phone call made by Tamra. While the ex wife confirmed that he wasn’t paying expenses that is not the same as child support. Expenses are ususally medical, daycare, sports etc. Also didn’t know if she was aware that they were FILMING the conversation and her words were being recorded. I wonder what the law is in CA, and if she had to sign off to have that filmed.

    • ChiTownRocks says:

      Exactly Amber

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      But court documents don’t lie. He’s not paying child support and he’s not paying expenses. From working in the medical insurance field and having a chronically sick nephew, medical expenses add up quickly. Co-pay’s, coinsurance, paying for Rx bankrupt people, like my sister-in-law all the time. For my nephew, each time he went inpatient he had a new Rx regimen which means paying for meds out of pocket. So not only is Slade not paying child support, but his ex-wife is out even more money for expenses such as these.

    • Absurd to sublime ran a story today that Michelle signed a release, so she must have know or consented. Also, sundry costs such as medical and day care, therapies ect would be part of the minute order. The bottom line is Slade is not paying- and he’s not trying to.

    • glammedupthug says:

      Just read a tweet by Simon V.K.. He says she would have to have signed a consent for “appearance” on the show.But Simon believes it is her.

  43. snarkarella says:

    When are people more people going to catch on to Trampra’s BS?! She’s the evil beyotch! Her true colors have really come out this season. And, I can’t believe Vicki just told Jeana she’s on Trampa’s side over hers.
    I’m torn between wanting these people off my TV and wanting to see Vicki get a clue and realize Tamra is a manipulative, self-centered bitch.

  44. coocoopuffs78 says:

    I just have to put this out here. I’m a single mom and here in Florida child support payments are made directly to the Department of Revenue and then payments are sent out to the children. I know for a fact that I have gone months without payments some times while my ex’s other children have received payments. If a man has other other children that ex may not have any say so in determining how that money gets distributed or paid out. If Slade’s truly a deadbeat and not paying anything then he should rot in hell but until I have all of the facts I’m going to reserve my judgement. Trampra was still wrong for putting his ex on the phone without telling her she was on speaker. Once again she’s inserting herself in other peoples business.

    • MAMAZ says:


      • NJ Bev says:

        Slade also has a son older than Grayson
        that he has to pay towards

        • nathania says:


          I thought there were two sons…

          why is only one mentioned?

          and one of them had brain cancer and there are literally like millions of dollars owed in medical bills.
          Slade is in a big mess.

    • nathania says:

      I’m sure she knew. I’m sure it was planned. And Bravo would have never been able to play that, because it is recording someone over the phone, without her express permission…in some states, you have to have prior permission to record a phone call, which Bravo did. The producers knew, even Andy may have known, even though as usual he acted innocent.

      And I don’t care, if he’s guilty, he’s guilty, period.

      And the fact is that all this is only going to benefit Gretchen in the long run. She needs to face the cold hard facts and Tamra is only helping her to do so whether she knows it or not.

  45. Butters'Mom says:

    I caught the “he isn’t paying expenses” very different from not paying child support. I hate Tampra.

  46. MAMAZ says:

    Peggy said she had a great first season.

  47. MAMAZ says:

    And did you just hear Peggy say she went to Jim’s because he wouldn’t answer her call?
    Calling her a stalker may be a bit of a stretch but she was obviously more into him than he was to her.
    Wonder if Micah knows that?

    • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

      Ohhhh that made me so happy-she totally did not see that coming!!!!!

      • snarkarella says:

        Don’t you just kind of wanna see a really bad girl fight where they just sort of slap lamely at each other? I can see it now, “Yes, you did.” “No, I didn’t.” “Ya huh.” Nu huh.” “OH. I broke a nail! Darn it. “

    • butterisafruit says:

      I bet he gave Peggy the heave HO. She’s still got the hots for him. BLECH.

      • nathania says:

        Are you people serious?

        This is Jim we are talking about.
        I can’t imagine anyone stalking him….he completely skeeves me out.
        I do not think if Peggy had these intentions (and horrible taste) she would have withheld the truth that they had dated from Alexis for as long as she did.

    • Melissa says:

      I know, she looked extra creepy with her Vampirella look to, veiny boobs and all. Few wks back on WWHL she was saying “thank God I didn’t marry him” But now I’m thinking bitterness had more to do with that comment.

      • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

        I didn’t get to see Tamra and Vicky when Alexis said all that-what did they look like?…Well really what kind of face did they make when Peggy admitted that she was going to the friends house because Jim wouldn’t answer her calls???

        • Melissa says:

          I wasn’t paying too much attention to them either (because that is One bomb she dropped!) but I think I remember Tamra had kind of a snicker on her face and Vicki looking confused.

          • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

            Im so sure Peggy “forgot” to tell them that little tidbit when she gave them the scoop on her relationship with Jim…BTW-I would never admit to that in the first place!

            • Melissa says:

              True! I was surprised I thought she was going to deny it like, oh that’s what he saids, but instead she saids “well I only did it cuz he won’t answer my calls” what??? Peggy, That is a stalker.

              • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                It was so great -I think she responded on the fly-no time to come up with anything but the truth!!!

                • Melissa says:

                  Lol It seems Peggy is obsessed with Jim, as much as Tamra is with Gretchen, who knew?
                  I really would like to know how Micah feels about that, they should’ve done something like before with the husbands coming out (though I don’t really need to see Eddie) and have Donn, Jim and Micah on. Would’ve loved to see Micah’s reaction after Jim’s reveal.

                  • Jill...no not THAT Jill says:

                    Even thought I would have loved to see Micah’s reaction-I’m so glad we didn’t have to see Eddie and Tamra grope each other!!!!

                    • Melissa says:

                      ITA, they make me throw up in my mouth. Peggy and Vicki saying “it was a beautifu scenel” made me reach for my barf bag.

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        I hate being right, LOL, but i’ve been saying for weeks that Peggy and Alexis, more so Peggy have been fighting over JImbo. I think Peggy wanted to always be around Jim to make herself the femme fatale of their set. Probably Micah would be a little jealous and GrandmaPeg would feel sexy and young. With her obsession over Jim, I thought he broke it off, but didn’t know she’s been stalking him since the relationship began! Talking about stalking I think she stole her storyline from Alexis. YUP. She didn’t deny that Alexis had PPD, but since it looked like Alexis was again competing, AC, Trampy and Icky were snickering. BUSTED!!! PEGGY is a SWF who wants to be ALEXIS!

        • nathania says:

          I didn’t get that at all.

          Alexis is practlcally beside herself over this, and Peggy is like ‘yeah, whatever’. Peggy’s husband is handsome, and Jim is creepy and weird. Why would Peggy want Jim.

          Furthermore, why would Jim not want Alexis to know about Peggy, if it wasn’t that big a deal. Something weird is at play, and I don’t think it’s coming from Peggy. And what else does Alexis not know about Jim.

          And if Peggy is a SWF, why would she withhold the truth from Alexis? It doesn’t make any sense.

          • MAMAZ says:

            Peggy herself said he wouldn’t answer her calls so she went to his friends house to talk to him. That’s not stalking but it does show that he dumped her.
            We only have Peggy’s word that Jim lied to Alexis about ever having dated Peggy.
            I don’t think they ever dated at all. I think they “hooked up” a couple of times. And really why should he have had to tell his wife about every single woman he slept with as a single man?
            He should have told her after she started hanging out with Peggy though.

  48. A tweet from Ramona:

    ramonasinger: With the president of @Bravotv and @SonjatMorgan in chicago having dinner and srvp of Charter cable http://yfrog.com/h3kx4ydxj

    • Inauthentic says:

      Hmmm,was Jill lying when she said that Ramona, Sonja and Alex do not see one another when filming ends? According to this, it seems she’s wrong.

  49. AZ Girl says:

    Gretchen breaking down about marrying Slade is so telling. Slade is a mess. Does he love Gretchen? Yes because she provide just what he needs, Gretchen provides Slade a job that does NOT have to be declared to the IRS. Consulting? is BS. I do believe he is not paying his share of child support and I find him to be a grown up “Ashley”. He mother is a gem and telling it like it is. Gretchen is not stupid and this “Slade ball and chain” is starting to wear on her.

    Jeanna needs to move away from OC as far as she can and start a new life. Too many bad memories.

    • boston02127 says:

      “Slade ball & chain” Hee hee…good one, so true.

    • nathania says:

      I think like attracts like. Slade probably Is Gretchen’s soulmate. He’s a bit more transparent liar than she is. They are just younger, better looking Salahis.

      I don’t hate Gretchen or anything, but why would she be with him through this.

      It seemed really painful for her to watch him when he was rich, on the first season. And he was sooooooooooo arrogant and stuck on himself, with that Oliver Cromwell haircut and his Ka-ra-tay like Ross used to say on friends, that it was icky.

      • TLM says:

        Younger Salahis… that’s a good observation. They definitely try their best to spin things whenever they can, rather than telling the unvarnished version of things.

  50. boston02127 says:

    Quincy—I just got done reading the last blog. I’m so sorry for your loss. You’re in my thoughts. ♥

  51. butterisafruit says:

    Well that was a whole lot of nothing. Again Tamra
    was center stage. Although I thought Peggy was
    the most hurtful. She didn’t have to drag Alexis’
    husband into any of this. Answer the questions, fine.
    But she set out to hurt Alexis. I think there is some
    resentment there. I can’t imagine how or why. It seems
    to me she might still hold a torch for him.

    Tamara is an alley cat, and it took a dirty old tom cat..Slade
    to claw back.

  52. snarkarella says:

    God help me I’m a little more sympathetic towards Slade and G. Maybe it’s just because Trampra is a vile hypocritical bitch and won’t leave them alone. Damn her!

  53. Melissa says:

    Why does Tamra communicate with Slade’s ex? The same way she talked and befriended Jay. she’s so psycho that woman. How crazy and obsessed do you have to be? She jumps through hoops to get into Gretchen and Slade’s business it is not normal.

    • NYCer says:

      In WWHL Jay Mohr told Andy that Gretchen and Slade were spreading rumors that Eddie was gay. I don’t single out Tamra– these people are all in each other’s business!
      They should throw Jill Zarin into OC for a season with her “we all have relationships with press” philosophy– I wonder who would be left standing!

      • Melissa says:

        I didn’t watch that but Tamra seems to go overboard with her nosiness, it’s not a normal thing to do. Spreading rumors is one thing but secretly contacting actual people involved with your costars that are not even your friends is toooo toooooo much.

    • Smompy says:

      That’s what makes Tammi Sue’s statements about what Jeanna dod look so ridiculously hypocritical. Apparently this woman believes that it’s perfectly OK for her to get deeply involved in everybody else’s business whenever she feels like it, but she also believes that nobody else has any right to judge or even discuss her own very public life.

      (BTW, I first typo’d that as “her very pubic life.” In Tamra’s case, same difference)

      • Melissa says:

        Exactly, I’m beginning to think she has some deep rooted psychological issues. Her facial expressions were scary enough but her actions are just too much.

    • Laura says:

      Because she has to stick her nose in everyone else’s business yet cry foul when its done to her. It sickened me to hear Tamara bashing Gretchen, calling her a stalker for talking about Tamara in her Bravo Blog. That’s what they’re supposed to do, duh! Tamara is such low class trash…..they can bash Gretchen for being with Slade but I guran-damn-tee that if Tamara were not on this show, Eddie Judge would not be around!

      • NYCer says:

        As a viewer, I am happy that Tamra exposed Gretchen for dating while her fiancé was dying. And I’m glad to hear from Slade’s ex that he is lying, and the court papers are right. I find Tamra credible, even if she is getting in the middle of things that aren’t her business. At least the viewers are a little closer to the truth.

        • Smompy says:

          I still don’t know exactly what Gretchen did or didn’t do with other men while she was dating Jeff, and neither does Tamra. I didn’t care about that then and I don’t care now. It’s really none of my business what this woman and her dying boyfriend did or knew or whatever. And Tamra is not motivated by a desire to tell the truth. Ever. She’s motivated by a desire to injure people and damage their reputations. Always.

          With Slade, eh, nothing surprises me.

          • VAgirl says:


          • Laura says:

            I totally agree with you Smompy….Everything about Tamara screams she is an attention whore and wants to know EVERYthing going on in everyone else’s life but thinks her life is off limits. Tit for tat and all that jazz.

            Of course there is always this side, that side and the truth and we are only privy to a smidgen of everything that goes on. That said though, Tamara is just plain mean and nasty and will do things just to get back at others. I wouldn’t be surprised if her and Eddie’s love fest comes to an abrupt end sometime soon.

          • LOLing says:

            I believe Gretchen when she says Jeff encouraged her to do the show. I also believe that they had an “arrangement”. And if she made Jeff happy in the end, then good for her and for him. Not for Tamra to judge what people work out privately for themselves and for whatever reasons.

          • nathania says:

            I don’t know what it is, I just can’t hate Tamra.
            She’s really sharp. It’s too bad she’s not bonded to her work like Vicky because she would be a millionaire.

            I liked Gretchen last season. But there is something about Gretchen that says to me that this girl is cute and blonde, and used to getting what she wants without having to work very hard. And also, she’s used to getting away with certain things and not being called on them. And Tamra calls her on it, and she’s never had to deal with it before. I think she has that ‘sweet’ look, that allows her to come across as rather innocent, when really she’s not.

            I don’t know what motivates Tamra, probably some behind the scenes stuff…but the truth is the truth. I don’t believe for a minute, that the righteous indignation Gretchen displays is justified. She would be soooooooo much smarter just to let things go.

            • Dawn says:

              Tammy Sue does not have the intelligence to make millions. Sorry. don’t believe that. Slade actually had a point when he said she lives off other people. The real estate business is in the toilet. How is she getting her money? There’s no shame in living off child support but does that combined with her Bravo money pay all of her bills? Where are her efforts to get another job?

            • D.K. in L.A. says:

              @Nathania Co-sign. We’re totally on the same page.

        • I agree that Gretchen and Slades version is a bunch of BS- which has already been proven in court time and time again. But at the same time Tamra needs to learn that if she wants to open the door to talk about other people’s business, someone is going to talk about hers.

        • kit9 says:

          She exposed no such thing. The only thing Tamra has exposed is her habit of working in cahoots with people who hate Gretchen and Slade. No way in hell she’s really friends with Slade’s ex. No way in hell Tamara knows a damn thing about Gretchen’s relationship with her fiance except what a very angry vindictive nut case(anyone who calls someone he doesn’t know in the middle of the night to trash someone is, by definition, a nut)with an agenda against Gretchen. Tamra never even MET Jeff or was ever with them. She knows NOTHING.

      • Melissa says:

        Tamra is a creepy woman, I would avoid her at all costs if I were Gretchen and now Slade.

  54. MAMAZ says:

    Well it’s a work night. Time for bed.
    I was supposed to go to part time over the summer but a coworker had a family emergancy so I am covering for her.

    I understand why she wasn’t here but I missed Quincy during our chat. I hate that she is hurting.

  55. Butters'Mom says:

    They are all pretty awful people. I didn’t watch this season but followed it here. I did watch most of the reunion. I can honestly say the only people on the OC I like are Brianna and Don. Of the actual HW my least hated is Gretchen. I think she sounds the most intelligent (well least stupid).

  56. boston02127 says:

    Good night all…homework. Tons. Fun fun fun.

    One thing I did learn about watching the show is that it’s so much easier being honest and nice. I hope I’m never like any of the OC bunch.

    Good night Quincy, I’m saying a prayer for your heart tonight.

  57. AZ Girl says:

    Calling it a night. Thinking of Q and hope you are doing o.k. My contact lenses are dried out from watching Tampra on reunion and need to go soak them. Good night all.

  58. LynnNChicago says:

    Twitter is in a tizzy over a photo that Jill tweeted. Her college age daughter naked in the bathtub….OMG what is JIll thinking?


    • Melissa says:

      THAT is crazy, even for Jill. Wonder how she’s going to back track. So many crazys not enough time.

    • LOLing says:

      Is Anthony Weiner taking her spotlight and she needed a few nudies of her own? Oh, Jill….that bathroom is awesome though, I would love to bathe while looking at that view!

      • Smompy says:

        God, I hate to defend Jill but that picture is totally harmless. You can’t see any skin and it’s not suggestive in any way. It’s just silly.

        • LOLing says:

          But does her daughter really want her bathtub pictures all over Twitter? Maybe she does…I don’t know! It just seems like a TMI shot. I know I’d kill my mom!

          • lillybee says:

            The picture is no longer available.

            • mariareads says:

              Well something is wrong because I just viewed it and I have to say, I have kids who are in their 20’s. They would disown me if I did this. Come on, Ally is a young woman! This is not right! Jill is crazy.

            • kit9 says:

              It’s still there, I just saw it.

            • glammedupthug says:

              It was still up as of almost 1am est. I can’t believe Shrill would post that, skin or not! You stop taking those kinds of pics of your kids when they’re out of toddler stage. J’s sick!!

        • housewifeaddict says:

          I thought it showed a lot of skin. If I were Ally I’d be very mad.

          • Inauthentic says:

            Ally probably doesn’t know yet. Remember Jill left her laptop on the Delta flight so she may not have internet access. Bwahaha. Jill is such an asshole. I saw that photo earlier tonight and could not believe a mother would post that. I also thought that maybe Jill just wanted to brag about her bathroom and let us all know how she rolls. Jill is thoughtless. She continues to do whatever she likes and to hell with anyone else’s feelings. No way is that photo acceptable. If I did that my daughters wouldn’t be speaking to me.

    • kotagirl29 says:

      Lynn I don’t know if this was posted yet or if you already have the information, but it never hurts to have the information more than once. On June 14th will be at UnCork It in Chicago.

    • luvbug0813 says:

      Ha to bad she blocked me I wouldn’t mind going another round with her. She’s so dank horrible.

    • quincyil says:

      She took the photo off now.

    • Katiecoo says:

      It’s down now, guess with the reunion of OC our resident Narcissist wasn’t getting enough attention.

  59. LOLing says:

    I hate these reunions, everyone just yells over each other and we never find out anything interesting. They need the stick like we had in Sorority meetings. If you have the stick you can talk and no one can interupt. Except in this case, use the franchise fruit! Oh, and FYI Jersey doesn’t hold anything in their hand, but our state fruit is the Tomato. I assume Tomatos arent sexy enough to hold?

    Anyway it seems we had an ugly couch and “pretty” couch. Guess which is which? I’ll give you a hint, the ugly couch hold 3. So what did we learn?

    Tamara is a hag with a head full of straw. There is something happening w/ her face. She is an interloper and a hypocrite. And why on God’s green earth are Eddie and Brooks living together? I do not like this woman. She is ugly inside and out. Good one liners though!

    Vicki also looked like something the cat dragged in. Maybe she’s partying it up with Brooks a little too much? She is a mean person with an ugly heart. Karma will not be kind to Vicki. But you know, she works? Right? Has she mentioned that?

    Gretchen may not be truthful all the time but she speaks calmly and succinctly. No cursing, no real yelling. Her delievery makes it so much easier to believe what she is saying, unlike Tamra who you feel is lying all the time b/c her tone is so nasty. As for Slade, hopefully it can all be worked out. Really, it’s about the child and his well being that’s important. But that’s court stuff that only the state of CA can hand down, no matter what the fans (or Tamra) have to say…

    Peggy is a blonde Morticia. She is in forclosure and I suspect, a poseur. She is another mean girl. I can see why Alexis woudn’t want her on the show. She is OC’s Barshop-she contributes nothing. Lets all cross our fingers that she doesn’t bring any of her “friends” onto OC next year.

    Alexis. Oh Alexis, I don’t want to like you…I don’t. You are some dumb and plastic and self righteous. But darnit…she grew on me. Like Alex in NYC. She can’t win an argument simply b/c she isn’t sly enough, but she was not as mean to the other women. The only person she was mean to was the designer when she cut the sleeves. Even when she got slammed and you could see that wounded puppy look in her face, and hear the little gerbils in her brain spinning their wheels….she never sunk to the lowest denominator. Sure, Peggy was a stalker was low, but whatever. Morticia deserved it! Although, Tamra was CORRECT in her statement about the forclosure. Jim may be a little underhanded, but thta’s Jim’s cross to bear. Lastly, why do all the ladies pick on her marriage I mean, at least she’s in one. For now.

    Can’t wait to see lost footage. Hopefully that will be the swan song for some of these ladies, but I doubt it.

  60. Eve says:

    I rewatched part 2 again. Tamra called that Michele and made her believe that Slade was telling lies about Michele herself. I didn’t hear that from Slade. I didn’t hear him say a bad word about her.
    Tamra manipulated that Michele…..”I got your back girl” as if the fight was about Michele.

    I don’t know….not really a Slade Fan but I think Tamra is such a big liar.

    • sue says:

      We all here believe Tamera and Michelle staged that walk off and phone call before the reunion. Tamera had to know that Slade was going to be on, and also Tamera has been in far worse confrontations in the past and has not walked off!!!…And one more thing, she would have never put that on speaker, because she could not have been sure what Michelles reply was going to be and there is no way in hell tamera would have set herself up for Michelle to say anything else then what she did.

    • nathania says:

      I don’t think so.

      If your ex husband is on national tv lying about being a great dad and you have no forum to confront him about it, it’s the same as if he was lying about her personally, in fact it’s worse, much worse.

      If Slade was telling lies about Michele, Michele probably would not have cared. This is her CHILD. And Tamra got pushed by a jackass. I don’t know if I would have had the nerve to do what she did, but I don’t blame her one bit.

    • Adgirl says:

      Gretchen was the mouth that said bad things. She said Slade’s ex was lying about Slade to make him look bad. Just one con person covering for another.

      • Eve says:

        I never heard Slade say he was a great dad. The only thing I heard Gretchen say about the ex is that she wouldn’t negotiate. I saw Slade with his kids quite a bit on Season 1. He seemed like a good dad to me. And trust me I’m not a fan but I just don’t like that deadbeat dad tag used on someone who might not deserve it. Loss of a job and request to modify the support downward is really quite common. Doesn’t make him a bad person. When he had the good job I and made the high payments you never heard a bad word about him.

  61. VAgirl says:

    Hey, the Mario Jill altercation is going to be on E News which is on right now.

    • VAgirl says:

      nothing new reported

      • Adgirl says:

        I am going to apply to the UN for a Jill Zarin free zone. I want bomber planes to patrol the region and shoot down any redheads who are running towards a microphone or camera.

  62. jeang says:

    Trampa has had it in for Gretchen since day one, cause her tired, haggard looking aging ass is no longer the hotest housewife.

  63. Melissa says:

    Tamra should really consider her trainwreck life and stop getting into her costar’s issues. She’s in no place to talk and I too am starting to like Alexis, she’s definitely naive but isn’t a mean person and I can respect that. Besides, she’s slowly morphing into a confident woman, and seems happy in her marriage. The other older women are petty, bitter, mean and crazy.

  64. LOLing says:

    One last observation: What did Slade mean when he said Tamra was “sucking off” everyone? Did he mean she borrows money from people? Plays the sympathy card so people help her? Or that she gives lots of *ahem* blowjobs? I think it’s the b$%^ j(*&..but I wanted to be fair and have some other options…LOL

    • VAgirl says:

      I think he meant she’s with them for the money, but maybe he meant both. LOL

    • Melissa says:

      All of the above and I LOVED it!! Lol

    • LOLing says:

      In theory, a good BJ can net you money…if you roll like that. 😉 So, all of the above it is! I think Trampy rolls that way. Maybe. Allegedly. I don’t want a cyst and deceased to come my way!
      Glad I was able to sink the board into innappropriateness! 🙂

    • smompy says:

      LOL I’m glad I’m not the only one with a dirty mind. I was thinking, “hmmm why in the world would that one particular line cause Tamra to get up and storm off the stage. All Slade said is that she was sucking off….OOOOOOH, now get it!”

    • TLM says:

      Yeah, I was kind of surprised they didn’t bleep that phrase, but they didn’t bleep it when Duhresa said Steve came over to Danielle’s for his “daily blow job,” either.

      I think it was deliberately meant to be ambiguous.

  65. Stella says:

    Only watching reunion now but I noticed that Slades ex said he ain’t paying expenses and I asked my mom who doesn’t watch what that means and she said it means he is paying support but if the ex needs to take him to the dentist he doesn’t pay for that. My mom doesn’t know about his hospital bills but she is a single mother too.

    • nathania says:

      yeah, the lady flat out said he was lying about support though, and that he wasn’t spending the time with his baggage…I mean, his son, that he claimed he was. I bet Tamra wasn’t even going to play that card until he popped off to her about ‘sucking people off’. Stupid move, slade.

      I knew Gretchen was paying him, I knew it. When he was talking I though of the joke that ‘consultant’ is another word for ‘unemployed’.

    • Adgirl says:

      As a former “divorced mom” I take it as Sladeis making some back payments (what – a $100 a month?)but is seriously in arrears. He is also suppose to pay for other “expenses” like dentist and doctors – just like when they were married.
      There might be a gag type order for her not to disparrage him in public so she might be careful in her wording.
      My ex didn’t pay for expenses either. He told me I was lucky to get the $300 a month for two kids. Gee thanks dude. So I paid 100% of the braces, broken arms, school supplies and hair cuts. That’s why single parents are broke and angry at the ex. Often the absent parent (usually dad) is off having a ball while the primary parent (usually her) is worrying about paying the daily bills and gettting the kids to soccer while working a full time job.

  66. Katiecoo says:

    I can’t believe how horrible Tamra looked. Shiny shrunken pinched face..she almost looked like a different person. Alexis is pretty but wayyyy too much makeup. I liked Vicki’s dress or top or whatever that was. Peggy still looks like a ghoul. Slade Smiley looked the best of all of them!

    • Whenever I read or hear about JZ giving advice about anything, I hear Alex’s voice saying “There is a chapter in my book called Don’t Take Advice From The Well-Meaning Morons”.

      • Arya Stark says:

        It bugs me that she is being quoted with Dr. Phil and Gaga and whomever else.


      • nathania says:

        gah! I just saw her mug on yet another cable channel where she is apparently making an appearance on one of the shows on that channel that is a specialty subject channel ( which I will NOT mention because I don’t want to give her any free advertising). She is like a drug resistant virus that just keeps popping up everywhere and you can’t get rid of it.

        • Adgirl says:

          I hope OWN does give Jill a show! Then she will be bub-bye from RH and her new show will probably tank. That network is in serious trouble.

    • TLM says:

      How idiotic. Can’t Jill stick to doing interviews about clothing and her shapewear line? Why is she getting into this issue that doesn’t even pertain to her, the non-issue that Kelly tried to spin into something after her psychotic break last year? Why doesn’t Jill do fundraising or speaking about CANCER AWARENESS and PREVENTION, since she was so devastated by Bobby’s cancer?? Enough with the bullying bullshit already. It is a serious issue but is SO disingenuous coming from her. It demeans the issue.

  67. Adgirl says:

    I never watched part 2 of the OC reunion. I only 1/2 watched the season due to my loyalty to the old OC that started airing while I lived in OC. Frankly, I watch OC & ATL out of habit. Mostly so I can kevetch with you guys.
    I don’t care about any of the NJ freaks – except Kathy I like. I could not care less about which Eyetalian doesn’t like the other Eyetalian today. ZZZZ.
    I loved NY and enjoyed BH. NY this year is even more painful than watching last season’s Jill vs Bethenny last season. At least Bethenny had the aces up her sleeve of her fearless call outs to snakes & manipulating famewhores, but more significantly Jill needed Bethenny to approve of her. When Jill forgot her notes it was truly O.V.E.R. except Jill missed the 500 foot skywriting over Manhattan … “Bethenny to Jill. I am Over You. Good Luck.”.
    This NY season is even worse than last because Jill doesn’t want Ramona to love her again. Jill wants to destroy Ramona. Jill is on a mission to socially destroy Ramona and kill Ramona’s wine brand. LouMan whom I ignored previously, is taking her “create drama” instructions from the producers to heart by morphing into Joan Crawford.
    In the immortal words of Charlotte York of Sex and the City “ICK!” (thats what Charlotte said about Samantha’s sexy baby talking hedgefund lover: “Does your vagina wina want a visit from my mister wister?” Charlotte: “ICK!”) LOL.
    If BH this season has Lisa being an ass then I am done (!!!!) with RH and sadly with this board.
    I love you guys!

  68. Adgirl says:

    Tamra looks and acts like a 55 year old cocktail waitress on the make in LV. Some have said Branson is more likely. I’ve never been there but I trust them. LOL,

  69. California35 says:

    Hy Lynn and gang! I have been MIA…I haven t been able to read the blogs either… I started to the blog about the NY blogs…Bravo Lynn, I have so much to say, but I am like three blogs and lots of coments behind… I will just go back to read a little mote before I go to sleep, and will joint the talk when I can,

    I am watching WWHL with Jeff Lewis, I just saw that Patty the Match Makerr will be back!!??? UGH!!! Sorry I Am sure there was a big discussion about this already,,,. But OMG! I thought that was done and over…. Then again Jill and Kelly were back to NYHW… So I should not be surprised. I WILL NOT WATCH! I know i said that about NYHW if Jill and Kelly were back, but I KNOW I will keep my word on this MMaker… I did not watch last season AND will not watch this one. NO WAY!!!!

    on a positive note and completely better…. Bethenny will be or has been in California, I’m not sure … But will have a book signing, I will figure out the exact place..because I would like to go, would LOVE to go.

    See you guys later…..

  70. nathania says:

    I can’t figure out this Peggy and Jim vs. Alexis and Jim thing. Peggy doesn’t seem to care about it. Alexis can’t seem to let it go. Can anyone get the subtext here?

    I don’t believe Peggy stalked him. I don’t understand the reason for that comment and why Alexis is sooooooooooo hung up on it, you can see the fury in her face. Is she afraid people will think that if Jim didn’t end up with Peggy it makes her look like his second choice?

    • Adgirl says:

      If Alexis could count as high as two I would agree. I don’t know what the deal is. Alexis is seriously mentally handicapped. I can’t even be annoyed at her because she can’t help it.
      Some sort of territory fight over Jimbos’ Anthony Weiner region I guess.

    • Melissa says:

      I think Peggy cares plenty. Alexis knows this but she seems ok enough now, probably because she discussed it with Jim and now she knows he dumped her.
      Peggy IS a stalker. When someone you’re dating stops picking up your calls (most likely because of an incident, probably a breakup talk or fight) you stop calling and move one.
      She showed up at Jim/his friend’s house and broke in without invitation, that is very stalker-like.
      Who knows what else she did.

      • nathania says:

        I never heard a confirmation that she ‘broke in’ I heard she ‘went there’ which is different. It is just so typical weak male b.s crap for someone to cop the ‘she stalked me’ crap after being rejected. I mean, Jim totally seems like that type of guy. Peggy is level-headed, undemonstrative, and seems content in her life. Alexis is insanely jealous, insecure, immature, childish, etc.

        I think the reason Alexis can’t let it go is because Jim never told her. It makes it look suspect, and she knows this, and it drives her nuts. It also makes her look like 2nd choice, which her ego can’t stand. I think she’s a little ‘off’ in the head, after this season.

        • Melissa says:

          Jim rejected Peggy, not the other way around, that’s why she went over to his place. “I only did it cuz he stopped answering my calls” straight from the horse’s mouth. Level-headed? -NO I have to disagree. If she were, I doubt she would’ve gone to his place after being ignored multiple times. And befriending backstabbing extraordinaire/busybody hypocriteTamra and self-absorbed drama queen Vicki wasn’t the wisest thing either. She also created a scene, turned on the dramatics for the camera when Alexis came to her party sans Jim acting like she knew nothing, and content people don’t do such things.
          Alexis, at least to me, looked and seemed ok, not insanely jealous. Afterall, it happened once upon a time 18 yrs ago, back when Peggy was actually human looking, Alexis only needed to look in the mirror for two seconds (which I’m positive she did) to get over any kind of jealousy she had of Peggy.
          Probably angry because she felt betrayed for 4yrs by her close friend (and her husband) at the time she found out but I really don’t see anything more.
          Alexis isn’t Jim’s 2nd choice to Peggy, because he dumped Peggy and married Alexis, it probably hurts Peggy’s ego more than Alexis’.

          • MAMAZ says:

            I don’t think Alexis cares that they dated. She was offfended because Peggy kept saying that if he lied to her about dating her then he must be lying about other things.

            I don’t think Peggy stalked Jim but she did on at least one occasion go looking for him to see why he wasn’t answering her calls. She got dumped!

          • nathania says:

            what she said was “answer a phone call” not ‘stopped answering my calls’. I wasn’t even clear whether it was Jim or the roomate she was concerned about. It’s possible he was a cokehead and she thought he’d OD’d…you can take literally any variety of liberties with her statement and fill in the blanks because it was so general and bland (the cokehead may seem farfetched but no more farfetched than going from ‘went to’ to ‘broke in’ to ‘stalker’.)

            I guess we watched two different shows, Alexis was fuming and obsessed the whole night, just like she was insanely jealous and borderline out of control at the poor brunette last season that dared to talk to Jim at the party. I question why you put ‘and her husband’ in parentheses…that is by far the more
            significant relationship, she has kids by this man. His reticence to tell Alexis is very suspicious (and stupid) to me…like he had something to hide.

            And you can’t tell me that if Peggy truly “stalked” Jim, that Jim would not be upfront about his suspicions to his wife, because we have all seen ‘Fatal Attraction’ and his first instinct would have been to PROTECT HIS FAMILY. Peggy only became a ‘stalker’ when the truth came out. Until that point, Jim not only trusted Peggy to be friends with his wife and be around his wife and children several times a week, but JIM knew she was an HONORABLE enough person to not tell Alexis about their past relationship if he asked her not to. This is not trust that a stalkEE places with a stalkER, and anyone who thinks it is has never been stalked before. Had it really been as Jim says, he would have told Alexis up front he suspected Peggy had bad intentions and to stay away from her. He didn’t have ANY problem with Peggy befriending his wife and becoming close to their family. He onlly came out with the “stalker’ b.s after Peggy said on WWHL that she was ashamed she dated him (which is the more beleivable scenario). Jim’s massive ego got wounded by her statement, and he retaliated through his wife, plain and simple.

      • TLM says:

        Good God, WHY would anyone want Jim at all, much less STALK him.

        This is all so sad, and that disgusting pig is eating it all up, I’m sure, thinking all these women are just dying to get with his chubby, redfaced, ugly ass. ICK!!!!!!

    • Kelley says:

      I think Alexis is just upset because basically, Jim and Peggy shared a secret. When they were talking Peggy said Jim was living with some guy at the time…I took it to mean she called Jim’s roomate and the roomate didn’t return her call. But I could be wrong. I just know that Peggy seemed more relaxed in the convo than Alexis did. Alexis should be upset with Jim, not Peggy about this whole thing. You could even tell Gretchen agreed but didn’t want to say so.

      • nathania says:

        Peggy doesn’t give a rip. It’s over and she’s got a cute husband, some babies, and her guy seems to be more financially stable.

  71. Melissa says:

    *move “on” Typo

  72. Ames says:

    Part two? How did I miss part one? Lol

  73. kit9 says:

    “Why is some strange guy on top of mommy?” omg! I’m sorry, that was freaking hilarious! Go Slade!

    • kit9 says:

      Slade awesomely ripped Tamra to shreds and it rocked. Alex also got in a great gig too, calling her disgusting.

      • kit9 says:

        Was also great to see BFF Vicki sit there and barely say a word in defense of her precious Tamra. Those two bitches are apparently scared shitless of Slade.

    • TLM says:

      Everyone seems to forget this was the third, not the first, time a bathtub scene aired on Housewives. No one called it “porn” when it was George and Lauri, or Ed and Lisa of Atlanta. George and Lauri had not married yet, and there was a lot of contention between George and his ex-wife, as well as kids involved on both sides.

      I frankly was uncomfortable at ALL of the bathtub scenes, but I just think it’s interesting that this one with Tamra is getting more heat than any other. No one seemed upset by the others.

    • nathania says:

      consider the source though…in his own scenario the ‘strange guy’ being asked about would be himself and the kid asking would be one of his own ‘who is that strange guy?’ that’s your daddy, son…

  74. jeepers1941 says:

    I saw Alexis as a commentater on either Showbiz Tonite or E! Online, can’t remember which. But she was there to talk about the Kim Kardashian’s lawsuit, not about the OC HW show. She was pretty good too. I was very surprised how well she spoke.
    Darn it, I missed the part where Slade tore into Tampon, shoot hope there is rerun of that part.
    So according to Tsampon, everyone is a liar except her. That is a joke.
    Geez what is with Vicki’s mouth, she looked absolutely horrible and so did Tampon, but Vicki has really aged a lot since they finished filming this season. Yuck

  75. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Good morning~
    Saw both reunion episodes last night & cannot get over how horrible Trampra is. Vicky is pretty bad too.
    Peggy & her boobs were kissing their asses.
    Gretchen & Alexis actually came off as pretty nice people compared to these raving lunatics.
    What gives Trampa the right to call Slade’s ex wife? She needs a restraining order stat!
    So glad they are over for now.

    • D.K. in L.A. says:

      Why do people keep saying Gretchen and Alexis came off nice? They are total moronic bitches. No better than any of the others. I can’t help but think it’s age and beauty vs old and flawed. Not cool.

      • D.K. in L.A. says:

        And, what’s up with Gretchen not being able to enunciate her “m” ‘s ? “Sunthing” instead of something, etc.? Ugh!

  76. moneycanbuyyouass says:

    An observance about Tamra:
    When married to Simon and he was rocking it with the cash flow, i.e selling high end cars at the Mercedes Dealership or wherever it was – things were GREAT! Rolex watches for birthday presents, lavish parties, the world was her oyster. Then Simon-in Slade like fashion- looses his job, perhaps due to her big fat mouth, the housing market crashes, and the oyster snaps shut with Tamra trying to wiggle free, unfortunately head-first!! She needs to mind her own beeswax instead of trying to project it out there onto everyone else. “People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.” But let’s face it folks, this is what makes for great TV in Bravo Land.

    You could say that “Reality Shows killed the Soap Opera” and it has always been said that “truth is stranger than fiction.” In this case it is a very manipulated truth!! And they have hooked us as most of us work now and watch TV in the evenings or DVR it. We all have that instinct where you just can’t help but gawk at freaks – accidents or otherwise, it is simply human nature. I personally would like Bravo to reformat their ideaology and programming, but then again, I can not look away….. I apologize in advance for any misspellings! I watched the recent National Spelling Bee and now that was genuinely worth the time!

    • jeepers1941 says:

      I think Simon lost his job at the dealership because of Tampon being on this show and they have a very high clientele there if I recall. The dealer probably got a lot of nasty feedback from the husbands who did business with them who inturn was getting the business from their wives! Most well to do people in that area don’t put up with people like that for a second. They were not invited to join the country clubs I know that for a fact, nor did they let them slip a boat in Balboa yacht basin either. We lived in the Laguna Hills area and also had a 3 bdrm condo on Balboa Island for years.

  77. VAgirl says:

    Good morning everyone. So glad HOOC is over except for the lost footage which I will not be watching. I hope it’s dead and buried. It was a horrible season and I really do not want to see those big boobed, over processed hair, pancaked made up, trampily dressed, sun-damaged, 20-something wannabes ever again.

    • jeepers1941 says:

      Good morning VA
      I know I have seen enough of Tampon and Vicki to last me a lifetime. They have really gotten ugly, yikes. I am still hope that Gretchen does well tho. Don’t know why, but I have always liked her, I think her parents have something to do with that.

  78. jeepers1941 says:

    I lived in Orange County, Ca. for many years and the sun will do a lot of damage to the skin if you don’t protect yourself. But these woman don’t spend that much time in the sun, it is all fake and makeup. They couldn’t possibly be that ugly from just the sun and botox! Could they?…………. 🙂

  79. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    What is strange is how of all the people you would try to get help from why would Slade’s ex wife enlist help from Trampon? She must be out there too if she thinks Trampon cares about her or anyone besides herself..

    • jeepers1941 says:

      Chances are Slades ex is not all that she is cracked up to be either and you know the old saying, misery loves company. There are a lot of hanger ons in that area too, so who knows why she would want to hitch her wagon to Tampon. She would be the last person I would get involved with when it comes to legal issues or anything else for that matter. Maybe the ex thinks she could get on the show herself, you never know! 😦

      • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

        I though it was so bad that Trampon would call Slade’s ex then was even more surprised someone looking for any kind of help would go to that bitch.

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