I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of New Jersey Let’s Chat!

I Hate Jill Zarin  The Real Housewives of New Jersey  Let’s Chat!

Before we move onto the New Jersey ladies, I thought this made for really good reading on a Sunday evening:


This article reminds us just how horrible Jill Zarin was last season but I have to give her a little bit of credit for recognizing how horrible she looked and making a change.  Don’t misunderstand me though, Jill has NOT changed, she has merely changed the way she is acting on screen.  The nasty comments about Alex at the wedding and her vile behavior toward Ramona in her blogs and on Twitter are not forgotten!

Luann is a horrible vicious and vile woman but she’s not hiding it on screen.  Lulu thinks she can say anything she likes and viewers will agree with her because she’s the classy countess.  Alex is absolutely right, Luann is delusional.  She honestly lives in a bubble and doesn’t understand how the real world works.  She thinks her word is law and that she can do no wrong.  Luann has never apologized to anyone for anything.

At last year’s reunion Jill hired PR people who told her to apologize her ass off but Luann never once apologized to Bethenny for her part in last season’s vile treatment.  The focus was on Jill and people seemed to forget about all of the horrible things Luann did and said all season.  Luann egged Jill on at every turn and encouraged Jill to lie to Bethenny about the speakerphone situation.  Lulu confronted Bethenny the night that that she announced her engagement to Jason and demanded an apology for the “snake” comment that Bethenny made earlier in the season.

The truth is that Luann is a snake, Bethenny was right and she meant it, I think she only apologized to get Lulu out of her face and so that the evening wouldn’t be completely ruined.  Bethenny also had bigger fish to fry with Jill Zarin lurking over by the bar covertly planning her approach.

Luann never apologized to Bethenny for all those horrible things she said on screen, she called Bethenny every name in the book and Jill sat through the reunion apologizing for everything while Lulu got off scott free!  This, of course, made Luann think it was perfectly fine to do it again this season.

The Rich Amons AssHat of the week goes to:  Luann deLesseps

Asshat of the Week!

Rich Amons Presents The Asshat of the Week!  (ok Rich had nothing to do with it)

A close second has to be Vicki Gunvalson.  A woman who has openly criticized Slade Smiley and called him a deadbeat dad is now dating a deadbeat dad and womanizer.  Vicki’s immaturity still shocks me yet she went from marrying her first husband young then immediately into a second marriage to Donn Gunvalson.  Vicki has not been alone for very long and she has been married for most of her adult life.  Vicki disagreed with  a viewer who wrote in to the Reunion show claiming that Tamra’s divorce was looking pretty good to Vicki.  Seeing Tamra with a young hot guy made Vicki look at her own marriage and feel like there is more out there.  Instead of taking a break from being involved with a man, she immediately took up with Brooks, a man who isn’t taking care of his children, according to reports.

But now news has surfaced that Vicki may have been having an affair with Brooks for several years.  An ex-friend and co-worker reports that Vicki and Brooks have met in cities all over the country as far back as 2006.  Vicki’s “business trips” could have included evenings and nights spent with Brooks.  Donn revealed that toward the end of their marriage Vicki’s business trips got longer and longer and the phone calls fewer and fewer.

Vicki is going to get what she deserves and I truly hope that Donn Gunvalson finds a nice woman who appreciates him.

Word has it there is currently filming going on for The Real Housewives of New Jersey but at this point all we really know is that some of the Housewives are at The Jersey Shore and some photos have surfaced of cameras following Teresa and Melissa and their families.  We don’t know when the photos were shot or if they’re maybe doing a weekend shoot just to have a bit more to add to the finale of this season.

Some outlets are reporting that they’re already filming Season Four of New Jersey.  I suppose we’ll find out soon enough…

@KimDPosche: Taping 2day with @CarolineManzo , @Teresa_Giudice , and @JacLaurita and more!!!!

From Twitter:  they are filming Season 4 already! Have been, for about a month

On with The Real Housewives of New Jersey!

Until Next Time….

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313 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of New Jersey Let’s Chat!

  1. Does the fact that they’ve already signed the Jersey crew signal trouble for the NY ladies?

  2. Adgirl says:

    What is the Summer Camp thing on Bravo about? Is that just a promo for all of the repeats they will show this year?

  3. Kats2 says:

    Are the charges against Joe Giudice legit? Teresa tweeted a link to an article that states that all the cover stories this week are not true. Someone please tell me there is at least a 50% shot he will be locked up?

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Teresa likes to play with the press….when the reports of her bankruptcy came out she said they were all “not true” when in fact a few of the numbers were wrong, like the exact amount she owed on department store credit cards.

      Teresa can deny the entire content of an article if there is one tiny point that is wrong, that’s what she does. Absolutely there is a good chance Joe Giudice will do time

      • Kats2 says:

        Oh Lynn Thank you! I can’t tell you how happy this makes me.

        • LynnNChicago says:

          One of the cover stories says that she’ll miss Joe and have a tough time raising 4 children without Joe and the rest of the article talks about how he will likely do time, they’re projecting 2 years. Teresa says it’s not true but she doesn’t say what part of the article is not true, maybe she won’t miss him.

      • Maybe at the time that T said it she didnt know the whole story therby making her statement true to her as far as she knew
        im thinking that Juicy wont be doing time as its been so long now if they were gonna send him up the river so to speak wouldnt he be there already

    • Cusi77 says:

      Lynn_ Like Kats2 asked yesterday… If Juicy does time, Does that qualify Teresa to be a Mob Wife?

    • Yes, the charges are legit.

      The bankruptcy documents clearly omitted several assets-which the Guidice’s are claiming they ‘forgot’. I really don’t see them skating on this-and that isn’t just wishful thinking. Even their bankruptcy lawyer can’t even deny they withheld information, the question is- was it intentional? I say HELL YES.
      Not only do I think there will be convictions for fraud, I also think the bankruptcy will be denied.

      The additional charges that Joe is facing for trying to obtain a drivers license with his brothers stolen identity also seem to have merit, it’s not like the DMV pulled his name out of a hat and just randomly showed up at his door. I am sure Joe must have went to the DMV trying to obtain a license.

      Teresa’s song of her being the one ‘who is bringing home the bacon’ isn’t going to help her either; since she has now said she and her family are not financially dependent on Joe.

  4. Why is Jaq’s son wearing a tie while playing video games?
    PS – Gia would get a 2nd vault – in case anyone cares about the silly editing. Only college and Olympic athletes get one – everyone else gets 2 tries.

    • Nancy says:

      Are you sure about that?

      • Yup. She got a 32 something all around score – 4 events – each out of 10. 8s on bars and beam. So she got 8s on vault and floor as well. I’ve sat through enough level 5 routines in my life to be absolutely sure. The meets they show on TV – college and Olympics – have different rules for vault (and scoring for the Olympics).

        • Nancy says:

          I just watched Kerri Strug’s 1996 Olympic vault and she went twice.
          Remember her first try she missed the landing and went down but her 2nd vault she hit the landing but immediately picked up her left foot but scored high enough to win the gold. I’ll never forget that. 🙂

          • I’m sure about JO levels 4-10. I can’t remember how the Olympics worked in 96 – but I do remember Kerri getting 2 tries. Today I think you get one chance if your score is counting for team or all around. If you want to medal in vault you have to do two vaults from different families (for instance front entry and back entry). I think they take the average score vs for the lower levels they take the best vault of the 2. I’m pretty sure for college you just get one vault.

  5. roslvr says:

    The Bravo Summer Camp promo bugs me just for the fact that Jill is the only NY housewife. I can almost hear the phone call/meeting where she said she’d only do it if it was her and ONLY her. That woman’s face annoys me while LuAnns voice and toothy smile bothers me to no end.

    • Kats2 says:

      Luann is in it too, not for that long but she’s in it.

    • ATLmeetsNYC09 says:

      I think LouAss is also in there but shes so far buried in the background that she isnt a factor.

    • Yes – but because she was the only one there we know for sure she leaked this story to Page6


      “Jealous Housewife” LOL

      • nathania says:

        that story is twisted. I dont’ think kara had anything to do with it.

        And the rest are reality stars, period. Padma made a name for herself a long time ago, with a legitimate career. It’s so stupid for JIll (and this is the kind of thing that comes from her) to think that she could leak something like this and not look anything but stupid. Everyone who reads it would be like, well, of course Padma got special treatment, she’s Padma.

        • they did another story almost identical when she was preggers
          dont believe a word of it
          anyone that ahs ever met Padma all say the same thing
          she is a raving beauty and as sweet as can be to anyone that she speaks with

    • Adgirl says:

      sadly Jill is the “face” of NY.

    • Kerry Okie says:

      Yes, that rather reminds me of the Sonya Morgan parade marshal mess. She’d do it if she would be the only featured housewife. That story never rang true for me, and I still harbor ill feelings toward Sonya because of it. But with Jill, I don’t need that reason for the ill feelings.

  6. moneycanbuyyouass says:

    I wonder if they are trying to get one more season in before the sh*t hits the fan. Juicy Joe may be doing time; for using his bro’s identity to get a license AND for the recently revealed incident in Puerto Rico; AND the Guidices off to court on 7/14 re Bankruptcy shenanigans. Maybe the FCC will ban this show and make them take it off the air!!!! We can only hope!

  7. Okay – Gia did do a good vault 4 sure if she placed 7th AA – so this whole “what happened to your vault” was a red herring. What other lies do hey want us to believe LOL!

    • Adgirl says:

      Are you a gymnist? It’s nice to hear from someone who knows about the sports to talk about them here. Like Nancy and skating.

  8. I couldn’t vote in the poll. It’s like asking someone if they want to get kicked in the teeth or punched in the throat.

  9. Karma87 says:

    Talk about KARMA. Vicki and her HORRIBLE self made SO much of Slade and Tamara egged it on as well, come to find out the Dbag she has been banging for years is a dead beat dad and has been JAILED!!!! Slade has NEVER been jailed for it. And I read that Vicki wrote a letter to a judge to get him out of jail (?) who is SHE and why would a judge even care about a letter from her? Also, does anyone think that the guy from Cabo that they met in the pool is this same guy Sure the heck looks like him? He gave her that nasty war cry she does when she drinks BEFORE she even finished her fist drink. Someone is very odd about that……

  10. Kats2 says:

    Watched that scene where Melissa is singing with her kids around, I think her voice is pretty good.
    Her kids are adorable.

  11. I don’t believe Melissa act for a second, she starts shit and her chimp of a husband acts up- then she plays the part of the gentle soul who wants everyone to get along. She has that man pussy whipped. Not that I don’t think her SIL is a pain in the ass- she is but that kid don’t know shit- especially when it comes to MILs. I literally have a MIL like “Marie” from “Everyone Loves Raymon”. Bitch better step before someone gives her something to cry about.

    • ms molly says:

      Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for saying what I’ve been thinking for this entire season.

    • sue says:

      Tru dat Rabble, Im right in line with ya on that!

        • Eve says:

          ITA…she talks the talk. She doesn’t want peace. She wants to be the victim. I do believe she is the cause of the friction between the family. How much ass kissing does T have to do? She apologizes and reaches out and they want something more…..I’m no T fan but I can’t stand Melissa (and I think her voice is mediocre)

          • i honestly dont see what any of you are seeing
            she seems like a sweet loving mom and wife
            could it be jealousy on some of the posters so far i havent seen her doing anything to anyone to cause such dislike

            • If there is ‘jealous’ I don’t think its on our part. Clearly the fact that Teresa didn’t showcase her SIL and idiot brother on the show is a source of contention for them. They are the ones who keep bringing it up that she never put them on the show, Melissa is the one who was contacting Danielle to give her dirt for the reunion- knowing that it would create a buzz about her and it would get her on the show.

              I’m telling you, the bitch is low down and dirty,

  12. Smompy says:

    Smompy doesn’t like it when Caroline talks about Caroline in the third person.

  13. Why is the waiter wearing the menu in his ass? I don’t think I would want to eat there.

  14. Caroline – take your own advice and fix your family. Talk to your brother. Make up with Dina. Face it and do it! You’ll feel better!!

  15. LynnNChicago says:

    Teresa is contradicting herself. She wants her family but now she says, “Now I don’t have to hang out with them”. Which is it Tree?

  16. Cusi77 says:

    So far Joe Gorga makes sense… Is Teresa fake? I think so…

  17. Smompy says:

    LOL anybody notice the way Joe Gorgo sticks his pinky in the air when he drinks? At least someone in that fambly has class!

    I might buy that Melissa was a snake if Teresa didn’t keep insisting that everyone else she happens to be mad at is also a snake.

  18. So the next season has them at the Jersey Shore- it really burns me that T&J are somehow managing to hold on to the shorehouse when they owe 11 MILLION DOLLARS.

  19. Okay. I’m convinced these two really do want to work it out. What a difference between this and the NY makeups.

    • sue says:

      Yea, but there is a difference, NY women and all their issues are completely for the cameras, and they do all their dirt behind the scenes and talk to each other about how they are going to act, and how they are going to stage it. NJ’s girls problems are real, they also do things behind the scenes,but in NJ its a family thing and its another end of the spectrum. NY should not be allowed to be called a reality show anymore. These females (especially Jill, Luann and Kelly) should be off the show and Bravo should replace all of them. I think w/a new cast Ny could probably make it!!

  20. These people are going to send each other to the slammer, they are starting to reveal their schemes on air to defend who did what to each other and when.

  21. Weird Joey told T- to work it out with ‘your mother’ and ‘my wife’.
    Melissa has him so twisted about his mother.

    • I have a great MIL – but I can’t imagine how toxic it would be if she hated me.

      • I don’t think Joeys mom ‘hates’ Melissa. I just think that sometimes with Italians and their different regions they have it in their heads that ‘their way’ is the RIGHT way-and therefore should be the ONLY way.. Like with making sauce, I bet in Melissa’s family a woman can make sauce with her period- and in the Gorga’s mind- you have ruined the canning season.

    • nathania says:

      nope, he said Teresa controls her and oh how do I believe that one. It’s painfully obvious how effed up these parents are…and Melissa I think is a bit shell-shocked because her family seems relatively normal, plus she lost her father at seventeen, so she probably values those relationships more. I think Teresa is very callous and does damage all the time with her mouth without even considering the pain she is causing. You can see it in Joey’s eyes. If the parents are not as fluent in English as they are Italian, which I suspect, all kinds of b.s. could be flying around that doesn’t even have any basis in reality.

    • after seeing how his mom was acting at that gym event im not so sure
      Jimmy and my mom do NOT get along
      it is the absolute worst because im always caught in the middle
      to be fair i have seen my mom treat him like dirt for no apparent reason
      but it causes so much stress in our lives
      i always spills over into us fighting non stop

  22. Kathy isn’t a shit stirrer. Lulu should take lessons on how to support someone when they want to make up and move on. Jill – if you had a Kathy by your side you wouldn’t be the most hated housewife. Dump LuLu.

  23. Marie says:

    I don’t really understand Teresa’s dig about Melissa not working after she married Joe. The show IS called Housewives of New Jersey.

    • ATLmeetsNYC09 says:

      Exactly. Talk about a bitch-o-crite. Teresa probably worked a short amount of time (if that) during her marriage. She’s doing the same thing but its not ok when Melissa does it.

    • And she has three young children to raise. That’s a ton of work.

    • Adgirl says:

      Next T will complain that Joey’s parents practically had to move into their house to take care of the gillion kids … oh. wait.

  24. Kats2 says:

    So I guess Caroline’s friend is the new Dina HA!

  25. myname2use4now says:

    Pardon me if this has already been posted, but it’s pretty interesting, especially since they all love to harp on one another’s legal troubles. It seems like they’re all being sued for one thing or another!


  26. LynnNChicago says:

    Is it take your daughter to work day, your first day??

  27. Kerry Okie says:

    How can Andy be on WWHL when he’s hosting a beauty pageant on another channel? Won’t the times overlap? Am I missing something?

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Broacasting from Las Vegas. Does that make the time zones work better?

      • Kerry Okie says:

        Oh, one too many Skinny Girl’s tonight, gotcha! (They’re okay, but I’ve tasted better, although not with fewer calories.)

  28. Kansas Girl says:

    I predict the feud will start again when they see this show. Geez, they’re not nice.

    • Even if they make up for real – they’ll keep the feud going for the show I suppose. From their blogs I don’t think they’re in a good place right now.

  29. Wow that was a weird segment on the auction. I guess we won’t be seeing any of their legal problems.

  30. Kats2 says:

    Teresa is vile, she really needs help

  31. Smompy says:

    Teresa just joined the long list of housewives who think the expression goes, “I was taken back.”
    OK, I was “taken back” when Countess Lulu uttered the words “Jacques and I’s” relationship.

  32. RockChick9111111 says:

    OOOPS Caroline you missed your cue. Being in radio that is a HUGE NO NO!!!!

    • Caitlin says:

      She was killing me there – DEAD AIR – death to radio!

    • TLM says:

      I was cracking up. I used to produce talk radio in NJ, and that whole Jersey 101.5 (DING! – Sorry, I can’t help but say it that way since I think their sounder is idiotic and hasn’t changed in 20 years) segment brought back lots of memories, both good and bad!!

      She should have been talking with her producer just before the show, and not her daughter, and things would have gone more smoothly in the intro. But she did a great job, and by the time she did her signoff at the end, she already sounded like a pro. I wish they’d put her on The View and get rid of Sherry Shepard, Whoopi or both. I might actually watch the show.

  33. Marie says:

    That was painful. Don’t call-in shows usually have calls lined up when the show starts? They don’t just sit there in awkwardness. lol

    • TLM says:

      Sometimes the phones are just…dead. Even in a city as big as Philadelphia, I had to put people on whom I didn’t want, because they were all we had, especially late at night. You just hope that the host brings up a topic that gets people going, so you don’t have to deal with the lunatic fringe and the same 3 people who seem to have nothing to do but call radio stations to talk about why the sky is blue, or ignore the topic on air to harp on the same issue every single time they call in.

      There were times where I busted my ass to get great, timely, newsworthy people on, and no one called in. The host started shouting, “If you people just want to talk about chocolate chip cookie recipes, we can do that!” I kid you not when the phones started lighting up with people wanting to talk — about cookie recipes. They were oblivious to the meaning of what he had said. Our listening audience was, well…an interesting bunch.

  34. Caroline must find it hard to speak with that big turd in her pants.

  35. Pixiesticks says:

    So, does anyone know if Theresa and Joe are getting divorced or are they getting ready for him to do some time? Intouch and another mag ( cant remember which) are saying he moved out. I know they are not the most reliable but there has to be an oz of truth someplace…

    • Kerry Okie says:

      No, they are still together. The story is what would she do if he were to go to prison, how would she manage if he left her to go to prison. It’s purposely misleading, just like the last one.

  36. You just know that Teresa is just dying to say to Caroline through her lecturing “Say HI to DINA why dontcha”.

    • And your brother!!

      • K-Ros says:

        Can someone pls give me more deets on this feud?? Thx!

        • No one really knows why she isn’t speaking to her brother. But from the obituary for his son, it seems like more than one of his brothers and sisters was omitted, so what ever the cause it- it significant enough to impact other siblings (although it’s possible there were separate fights).

          No one really knows about the situation with Dina and Caroline other than Dina isn’t ‘following’ anyone one twitter other than Teresa. She also went to Teresa’s event instead of the one at the Brownstone. Some people think Dina is mad that Caroline and Jac didn’t quit when she did.

          I think that money is at the root of it.

  37. Cusi77 says:

    Lynn_ Caroline needs advice from you ASAP! Way to go LYNN when you are in your Radio Show!

  38. Caroline says:

    I dont TRUST Kathy are ALL!!! She seems super shady.

  39. Cusi77 says:

    Was that caller Melissa?

  40. Smompy says:

    Melissa to Teresa in the next episode:
    “Do you really think you’re in any position to talk about money?”
    Me to Melissa:
    I don’t even care if people are correct about you being a sneaky shit-stirring bitch…you are my new hero.

  41. God not Lyssa again….I hate her.

  42. Melissa’s sister really needs to stay out of this. She’s the new LuLu.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      Agree. Sisters not helping. Odd to meet at Jaq’s house, tho. At least in a restaurant they’d probably keep it down.

    • sue says:

      I get the vibe that Melissas sister is jealous of Melissa. I still believe T,when said about the phone call between her and Melissas sister at the christening, I truly believe that M,s sis did tell T that M was a cold bitch. I have a friend whos sis does the same thing to her, but when we have cook outs or some kind of get togethers, she is always sooo “I love ya sis”, “I got your back”, but then word starts getting back and when her sis isnt around,she is talking her down behind her back.!…I’m telling ya, M’s two sisters fed this fire from a long time ago!!!

  43. Finally some sense from Caroline. Jaq is great and Caroline stinks. ITA.

  44. Kansas Girl says:

    Teresa has a place in the Catskills? Does the trustee know? (Now he does!)

  45. Kerry Okie says:

    Without question, Jacqueline has a higher tolerance for Caroline than I do, and I can’t imagine how that’s possible.

    • nathania says:

      sometimes I think Jac has a scrip for the good sh*t. Notice the permanent look of contentment on her face…she has some nice tranquilizers or happy pills apparently.

  46. Caroline says:

    Lyssa is a pain and an instigator!!! She needs to SHUT the hell up

  47. ATLmeetsNYC09 says:

    Why does Teresa constantly take digs on her family? What purpose does that serve? She just said that sometimes your friends are better than your family. Really?

    • ATLmeetsNYC09 says:

      I believe that is the root of the issue between her and her family. Even with all the problems that are going on with Caroline and her siblings, she never goes out of her way to bring them down.

  48. Gayle. says:

    WHY hasnt Theresa and Joe sold all that crap.. ( Extra houses jewels furs ) to pay their bills? What about the cash they get from this show? That has to be a few hundred thousand a season.. Gimme a break.

    • nathania says:

      This is not bankruptcy like normal people file bankruptcy. This is gaming the system bankruptcy. Kind of like what Jim Bellino just did with his house, transfer it to a business asset, qualify for a short sale and then pay cash for the next one. They listed only the assets they absolutely had to, and the rest of it is buried or offshore or being laundered through the pizza joint.

  49. Kansas Girl says:

    Are there more ads than usual tonight? Seems like there’s not much show and all ads.

  50. T also has a place in the Catskills? Man I want to be 11 million dollars in debt too.

  51. Adgirl says:

    I am calm and cool as a whistle.


  52. Adgirl says:

    What’s wrong with the back of Jac’s blouse?

  53. Kansas Girl says:

    Is pink eyeshadow the new thing?

    • Candace says:

      Actually, I have seen and heard pink eye shadow being pushed a lot recently and seeing it around.

      One of those looks that probably doesn’t flatter many people though.

  54. Kansas Girl says:

    Andy’s sober (for once). Oh, nevermind. He introduced his drink before his guests. LOL.

  55. ATLmeetsNYC09 says:

    I think I might have cotton ears but did Tree just say she might lick Joe’s ass tonight in the previews for next week? Ewww, I just threw up in my mouth.

  56. Nancy says:

    I can’t figure out Caroline and Al’s marriage. Sometimes I think it’s good and then…

    • Kats2 says:

      I think he loves his time away from her. Something scuzzy about that brother of his. Every time I see them in the Brownstone office I always think they had prostitutes brought in for BJ’s.

  57. Smompy says:

    OMG, never thought I’d hear Caroline saying something positive about Melissa on camera. Tree must have really pissed her off.

    • Of course, she and her husband got her baby boys involved in a fight-because we all know the Manzo’s are above reproach when left to their own devices..

    • nathania says:

      she is SUCH phony. And finally it is coming out what a hypocrite she is. I was thinking Teresa was going to punch her for the ‘big girl panties’ lecture…this is the same woman that had a sit down with Danielle and called her ‘garbage’, there was no ‘bigger person’ anywhere in sight on that night.

      I am tired of Caroline and her advice giving. WTF makes her qualified to give advice to anyone? Because none of her children are dead? So she must have done something right?

      This is a woman who tells viewers that “God” gave her her fake boobs, and that ‘portion control’ not the actual weight loss surgery she had, is what made her lose weight. She is not speaking to two of her siblings. One son flunked out of law school and the other wants to open a stripper carwash. Her husband’s business was bought with mafia money by her father in law, who was the victim of a mafia hit. Ummmm….sorry, there is nothing even remotely suggestive of “wisdom” there.

  58. Kerry Okie says:

    Okay, it’s official, Oklahoma chicks are much tougher than Jersey broads. If any body ever punched me, post-partem or not, they’re goin’ down.

    • Carl asked for it, Jax went out for a night after her oldest son was born and Chris called his sissy crying about how he didn’t know what to do. Carl called her a bad mom- and then POW right in the kisser.

    • myname2use4now says:

      No wonder Jac always has that serene, chill look on her face. She knows that no matter what Caroline says, Jac at one point, clocked her! lol! This revelation has brought Jac up in standing for me. Jac isn’t boring…she’s gangsta! lol! Even better…Caroline said she never saw it coming…lol! Ashley better watch her step!

  59. Did Caroline get the staples taken out of her stomach? It looks like the weight is starting to creep back on.

  60. ATLmeetsNYC09 says:

    I sense Andy and Juliana dont get along…

  61. Caitlin says:

    Giuliana sure is used to more elegant company than Caroline. Wonder how she really feels about this gig with her? (Sounds catty, I guess, but I couldn’t do a quick coffee with Mrs. Manzo..)

  62. Kerry Okie says:

    Caroline is such a wimp; what a faker. Everybody knows she’s on the outs with Teresa, but she doesn’t have the balls to come right out and say it. So much for being honest. Caroline now has zero credibility, for sure.

    • Watching the fools on BRAVO says:

      T must have some real nasty gossip on Caroline – but I with you on this – SHE HAS NO BALLS!

      • ATLmeetsNYC09 says:

        The whole WWHL show her only response was “I have to go back to Jersey.” Clearly Caroline is an enabler, which is the only reason why Tree is friends with her in the first place. She only wants to be friends with those that support her back habits and nasty behavior.

  63. Watching the fools on BRAVO says:

    I can’t imagine anyone would be on Teresa’s side about anything – I also find it disgusting that Caroline won’t call T’s out on her BS – she had no problem doing it to Danielle. I absolutely love the Kathy chick – I think she is a pretty honest person and shows true compassion for people. People are to easy to forget what T has done.
    Flipping tables, acting a fool, SHAFTING hard working people out of 11 MILLION dollars, justifing her husband’s
    drinkin and driving (which could have been tragic if he killed someone’s kid/family), then letting him drive with
    no license… I could go on and on! This woman is an animal! I’m liking Melissa so far, I think she has a good
    heart and MANNERS!

    • Watching the fools on BRAVO says:

      Man – I need to use my shift key earlier! lol

    • Kerry Okie says:

      I totally agree!

    • Kats2 says:

      I love you! Thank you for saving me all that typing, I totally agree with you.

      • Watching the fools on BRAVO says:

        lol – I have to get my frustrations out – these fools really piss me off! BTW – same goes for ole
        jackie poo! She knows that fool was DRUNK as a SKUNK – and she has the nerve to try and
        BS everyone with a bunch of excuses! DISGUSTING! Totally lost any respect for her and NO
        Balls Caroline last year!

    • I disagree, I am telling your Melissa is awful. The stories of her and Joey ripping off contractors have just started to come out- and js wait till next year when they have to come up with that balloon payment. I’m betting they will pull the stunt Taliban Jim did..

      Just wait till season two…it will get worse.

      Mark my words- she and her snaky sisters are up to things.

      • sue says:

        I’m with on Melissa, I think it is sooo damn obvious what this chick is up to. And after hearing the story T told about how her and T’s bro. met I believe it even more that M is a trifling little sneak who thinks she has game and can fool everybody and her and her sisters stand back and laugh thinking they got one over on people…Nope, I’m sorry but M and her sisters are trouble from the get go and I bet if we could talk to some locals about these girls they would validate it…from where I’m from we have a few just like them!!!

    • Nancy says:

      I love Kathy her husband and their children. I could befriend them in a second.
      I’m on Team Melissa all the way. I wonder if Tre feels threatened by Melissa because
      she went to college and she didn’t.

      • LOLing says:

        Teresa went to college and graduated as well.

        • I thought she went to some fashion institute not a good one like FIT.

          • LavaLady says:

            Teresa went to Berkeley College, a small liberal arts college in NJ. It was formerly a secreterial school, but graduated over the years into a college. She may have a 2 yr. degree from there. I’m not sure.

        • Kerry Okie says:

          Sorry, but I’ll need to see proof, and then I’ll doubt it’s authentic. Supposedly, Kelly’s a college graduate too, so I guess anything’s possible.

          • Caitlin says:

            NO!!! That cannot be true! It couldn’t have been any school where English was spoken!?!?! Listening to her, it’s hard to believe she finished grade school!

    • nathania says:

      Melissa has class, there is no denying that.

      I think she is the most authentically *happy* human being that has ever been on one of these shows, it’s heartening to watch someone as non-jaded as her on camera. I think she loves her life…it’s very odd, because usually Bravo attracts women who are miserable inside and not happy unless everyone around them is miserable as well.

  64. Indy501 says:

    I can’t tell you all how happy I am to have found this site. I only watch RHOOC for the sunshine in winter. I always thought these women were about 100k away from a trailer park and the last few years proved me right. Surprisingly, Gretchen has really grown on me. I sort of understand her over the top behavior during Jeff’s illness. Probably a reaction to the stress she was under. But she’s shown herself to be a classy, hard working young women. Tamra is just trash, no shocker. Doubly proven when her Mother opened her mouth on the finale. Vicki I would go back and forth on. I always felt she was a big wanna-be. I knew she lacked any class but she “seemed ” to come from a good place.
    Now she is just gross. Donn did a good job raising her kids. They seem ok. Now just make her go away.

    I also watch RHONYC because I’m a wanna-be Manhattanite. ST. Louis born & bred from Andy’s community (shame on him, selling his soul). Married to a Long Islander & living in Indy. Started the show loving the Zarins and B. HATING Silex and not sure about Ramona (depending on the week). But have always had real respect for the business she has developd in the garment industry LuAnn always was pretentious.
    Loved it when I discovered her common background. Typical. Love Sonja, now understand where her mishuggah behavior was coming from earlier this season.
    Kelly, why waste my time.
    Now I lOve Simon and Alex. Theyve grown into themselves and the show. They have nothing to prove anymore and show that by just being themselves.

    You’ve all said it all about Jill and Luann. What the f happened? Sometimes I really think that this is all scripted tv and somewhere Jill and Bethenny etal are having a good laugh at our expense and blood pressure.

    Thanks for letting me have my say and I look forward to future posts. I may actually pick up BH in reruns since it’s gotten such good reviews!!

  65. LynnNChicago says:

    @Bethenny So I just ordered milk to my hotel room for bryn.guess how much?I canceled it & I’m walking 3 blocks to buy some. 14 dollars!!!!!

    @Bethenny If I take a sip of $14 milk, I better have an orgasm.

  66. Smompy says:

    More than 80% of viewers find Teresa to be “hotter” than Melissa?

    I was stupidly assuming that most of this show’s fans were probably sighted. Just goes to show you that one should never assume.

    • That makes no sense at all. Melissa bugs me – but she’s very pretty.

    • ATLmeetsNYC09 says:

      Theres no way that Teresa is hotter than Melissa, even if she’s a liar and manipulative. Shes still way prettier than Tree.

    • Kerry Okie says:

      Maybe the viewers that called in didn’t hear the question correctly. Like they thought the question was who’s fatter, or maybe they played the drinking game too long and dialed the wrong number. Okay, that’s all I got. I don’t get it either.

    • Caitlin says:

      Maybe T. has hired some of Jill’s folks – wouldn’t put it past her.

      • No – whatever she’s doing is working. Jill’s PR folks are the worst there is.

        • Caitlin says:

          Maybe some people thought it meant “hot-headed”? I dunno, there’s no accounting for what people find attractive…… And for me, the more she tawwks, the less attractive she looks.

    • nathania says:

      it’s really not surprising. I’m certain there is a phone bank but like attracts like and people who are loyal to Teresa are more likely to be hard core viewers whereas people are reserving judgement on Melissa, so people like me who are liking Melissa a lot are not going to call in.

      I wonder if it has to do with the guests as well, there is no way I am sitting through WWHL with Caroline on it to even find out what the poll question is. No way. No Luann, no Jill, no Caroline, they are verboten. So I am guessing there is not a lot of cross pollination there between Melissa fans and Caroline fans. I just hope Melissa knows how to interpret these polls… they are really irrelevant. I think she can assume that her fans are a) real and not automated redialers and b) much saner human beings in general who don’t necessarily find Andy Cohen entertaining enough to sit through Caroline Manzo, Who Is Better Than You.

  67. shell says:

    Teresa is so extremely ignorant, inarticulate and uneducated. Barf . . . .

    • Laura says:

      And there is NO way in HELL that 82% think that Teresa is hotter than Melissa. I’m not keen on either one personally, but if I had to choose, based on appearance (how shallow!) Melissa is DEFINITELY much prettier than Teresa! Uggggh!

      I really thought Andy did an excellent job on the pageant as well on WWHL……awesome, IMO…

  68. Butters'Mom says:

    Welcome to the family Indy501

  69. LOLing says:

    When the WWHL poll came up I was sure Melissa would win. I don’t particularly care for her, but she is a pretty girl. To be fair, I have seen Teresa in person and she looks MUCH better. I think she over does herself for TV. She looks much “softer” in person. The poll results solidified something to me. But first, some impressions.

    Melissa, Joe and Teresa are all cut from the same cloth. They all want to be number one, they all want to win and so here we are. The shit they fight about is so inane. Honestly, after next week I hope this dies down a little. I am bored with the war. I know Miss Hudson is solidly on Team M and we will agree to disagree, but I do kind of wish you could see Lynn, that Melissa and Teresa are really the same person, just with different personas. I hope that makes sense. I am not on Team T, per se. Actually, I think I am joining Team Rabble Rouser. 🙂 All of the Gorgas have EQUAL fault in this bag of nonsense. I did find it interesting that Caroline kind of dissed T on WWHL, but I guess I can see why, Teresa did create a lot of problems for her family, by proxy. Plus, Caroline is a pompous one. Call YOUR brother honey! 😉 Oh, lat thing. Teresa will never get into her legal problems on air. At least not until they are over. Weirdly, I know too much about this woman. Ask me anything you want to know and I will try to answer…just don’t ask how I know. And NO I don’t work for her. It’s 6 degrees, well more like 7 or 8 degrees. LOL.

    So, since this is now The Real Housewives Realted To Gorgas, I will just jump to my revelation. I’m sure some of you have come up w/ this…it’s not rocket science. Every franchise has a face. No matter what, there is always one. NY is Jill, OC is Vicki, NeNe in Atlanta, BH is Lisa and NJ is Teresa. NO matter how much posters here hate Jill and Teresa, Bravo does not! The hate that Jill and T get is GOOD hate, as far as TV goes. It’s not Danielle hate or Luann hate, where they really have no fans. Jill and Teresa do. More so Teresa than Jill. Teresa sells a TON of books, her signings are quite huge and for God sake she beat her WAAAY prettier SIL in the poll. More people like her, for whatever reasons, then do not. This is why Melissa isn’t getting the love. The haters are more vocal, but in HW land, success is based on what you can do for Bravo and since they get a cut of her sales…Teresa will be around for a long time. As will Jill, you may hate her, but she brings eyes. Eyes matter.

    Anyway, I am finding this exausting, yet totally riveting!

    • Anita says:

      Hey tell us more, how can Teresa be so loved if she screwed so many people who also need to pay their bills. It just doesn’t make sense. Teresa makes claims that she doesn’t have help cleaning her castle. Then who the hell does it? If she is away creating these books then all these book signings WHO is doing it all.
      The woman uses her own parents to wage war with her own bother.
      Do you also know what is going on with Caroline and the rest of the family?

      • LOLing says:

        Can’t answer about the love part, that’s a fan thing…as far as the bills, a lot of it was Joe and the businesses. She was (mostly) in the dark as to the extent of their problems and she didn’t know about forgeries, fake taxes etc. It’s not good, but no one is allowed to talk about specifics. Even if they know them. Next month it will all become clearer. She put her faith in Joe back then. Not as much anymore, she has a team and is handling things correctly. Joe Guidice supports this. They are still making money and much of the things the “have” on TV are just for TV and paid for by people who want their stuff on TV. As far as cleaning, they have someone once a week and Teresa does the day to day. B/c she is travelling for the book and show, she also has people to help w/ the kids in her absence and they also help w/ laundry etc. Melissa has full time help. The parents have their own issues w/ Joe and his wife and HER family. They are siding w/ T for a reason and that reason is, b/c they feel T is right. The show is the root of a lot of the problems. They do see the grandkids though and they are cordial. They love the little ones.

        • Anita says:

          Thanks for all the info appreciate it, so maybe those around the parents need to start encouraging them to see both sides and maybe that would help the kids be less self absorbed and willing to do right by the whole family. The thing is that Joe G junior is protecting his immediate family which is the right thing to do as an adult but he still needs to show respect towards his parents and sister even if you don’t agree on things. But this can only happen I get the feeling if Teresa allows it to happen. And encourages her parents to see both sides and Agree to Disagree.
          It truly shocks me that anyone would allow themselves to get into that much trouble and still want to appear holier than thou on the screen. What example is that setting. T&J need to accept that they have messed up. Make amends.

          • LOLing says:

            If Joe and Melissa didn’t join the show…maybe it could have been worked out. They joined the show against the parents wishes and the issues are worse. Teresa was picked for this and it made Melissa angry. Teresa let some of it go to her head, for sure, but the jealousy escalated on Melissa’s part when Teresa got “known”. A lot of Teresa’s actions towards Melissa after HW’s was one upmanship, but Teresa being a “star” gave her the upper hand. When they brought Melissa on, she used it as a forum to knock her down. It’s not going the way she hoped or assumed.

            • Anita says:

              It is sad for any family to be going through this sort of rubbish. But these egos are as huge as their homes. In a perfect world they should all step back, relax and let live in their own homes, they don’t have to be best buddies, they are all strong personalities and everyone CANNOT be right.

        • nathania says:

          ha, just as I suspected, I knew the parents were at the root of this. you don’t side with a sibling against another. basically it’s typical family dynamics, the mother steers the ship and the mother is always closer to the daughter than to the son (‘ a son is a son til he takes a wife, but a daughter is a daughter for the rest of her life’).

          I don’t see the parents as anything but fully culpable for unleashing on the world the mass of duhness and violence known as Teresa Guidice. Whatever happened to her to make her this way is THEIR doing, it is so obvious. I really feel for Joey Gorga, whenever he’s with her and tries to talk to her you can see so much pain in his eyes when it comes to his family. And Teresa never gets it because her two brain cells are competing for control of her mouth.

    • What’s going on between Dina and Caroline??

      • LOLing says:

        I don’t know! I know nothing about the Manzos!

      • nathania says:

        oh my god, I thought i was going to choke tonight watching teresa sit there and be lectured by carolline while caroline isn’t speaking to two of her sibs, and you could tell that was what teresa was thinking. teresa soooooooooooooo wanted to knock her off that stool, you could tell.

    • Candace says:

      LOLing, great insights and thoughts. Agree with you 100%.

    • Candace says:

      LOLing, do you know if the Giudice possessions will be auctioned or will that be contingent on the bankruptcy fraud proceedings?

      I am wondering if the worst case scenario is a real possibility for them, which would be house repossessed, belongings auctioned and One or both of them in jail.

      How in the hell could they get in a spot that bad? Are they stupid or that greedy?

      • LOLing says:

        The auction thing is done. The possessions didn’t make enough of a dent in the debt to make it worthwhile. So as of now, it’s never going to happen. What happens w/ everything else depends on the courts and the meat and potatosof that isn’t public. Yet. Stupidity and greed played a role here, but it was also keeping up appearances and living up to expectations. Their problem is, they don’t ask for help or advice. They want to do it alone and pretend all is well. They have learned they need good advice and good guidance. They did learn from this. If they stick to it is another thing…

        • Anita says:

          But shouldn’t they be selling the mansion to pay the vendors they owe? Or do they have to wait to be directed by the courts?

          • LOLing says:

            Not now. If you can pay the mortgage, you can live there. The reason it was never foreclosed on (and it wasn’t) was b/c they can make payments. Their other properties were forclosed on (or came close) b/c they did not make payments. They pay for the main home. If the Bankruptcy isn’t accepted for whatever reason, they will be required to pay their creditors. That doesn’t mean they HAVE to sell the house (since they are paying) but as a matter of course, they probably will. Even still, they won’t make enough profit to cover the debt. They can do nothing until the court decides their fate.

        • Candace says:

          They have an entire new bedroom set this season, if my memory serves me correctly.

          If they auctioned furniture, it’s been replaced and with nicer pieces!

          Since they are a high profile couple and case, I’m guessing the various agencies are going to make an example of them, big time.

          I wonder mostly if both will get some time and for how long. As you said, that remains to be seen.

          Different topic…..is it thought that Joe has a roving eye?

          • LOLing says:

            Sometimes, a blind eye is turned to cheating. If he did or not no one knows. So either no, or he kept it quiet. Consensus is no, b/c it would have become public by now. However, there is NO “Tara” or love child! The nephew from the show is who Danielle meant. Melissa Gorga was contacted by Danielle at the end of season 1 filming, so D coould get dirt. They kept “in touch” throughout Danilles reign on the show. When HW’s dumped D, Melissa did too.

            • Candace says:


              One last question?

              Where does the mysterious financial help from family supposedly come from?

              The parents are all immigrants…could they be well off enough to subsidize them in that way?

              Thanks for the insights, LOLing. 🙂

              • LOLing says:

                When Teresa and Joe were doing well, and at one time they were, they helped family members. The mystery money is return on investments, but some of this may be innaccurate. There are rumors about the mob and the $$……bottom line, Mafia people don’t claim anything shady in taxes. “Various income” is not on a mob guys tax return. That money is kept in the yard like Tony Soprano! 🙂 Do they have connections? Yep. Are they in it? Nope. Joe G. (actually both of them) would not be in this show if he was an active, made, non jailed member of the mob. So, that rumor is put to rest. But then again, Italians “don’t believe” La Cosa Nostra exists! 😉 LOL. Joe G”s are not mob.

                • Anita says:

                  Girl you are brilliant 🙂

                • nathania says:

                  i don’t know if anyone really believes they are mafia, but boy are they dirty. I don’t think being made is really necessary traditionally anyway, but all that dirty dealing came from somewhere, My guess is the dad (Gorga) taught both Joey G. and Juicy everything they know.

                • TLM says:

                  Well, what in the hell are the “Mob Wives” and their kids doing on TV?? That whole thing baffles me. Would not want to be part of production on that show. I’d be afraid my car would blow up each time I started it.

            • nathania says:

              Danielle alluded to how he ‘loves his strippers’ and since just about everything else she claimed about the Guidices is true I believe this is too. I do believe there was a Tara, there was a Tara twitter that went private last year as soon as it was discovered, and plenty of posts on blogs about Tara being real, and people spilling about her.

        • Candace says:

          Ooops….I didn’t understand at first about the auction not happening. Got it now.

    • nathania says:

      I disagree, I think the face of NJ is solidly Caroline, not Teresa. Saying Teresa is the face of NJ is like saying Tamra is the face of OC. I also think that Bethenny is still the face of NY. I am starting to think that Ramona is becoming the face of NY, much to JIll’s chagrin, she’s getting at least as much press, though little of it is positive.

  70. Butters'Mom says:

    For some strange reason Tre has very loyal fans. The logic escapes me but they must have voted many times each. I mean come on Mel in the cat suit vs. Tre in the super woman outfit. No contest Mel should have won.

    • ATLmeetsNYC09 says:

      I was just thinking the same thing. i dont get the “charm” of Teresa. Shes similar to Jill Zarin to me, no real redeeming qualities at all. All the shows have a sort of villain-ness type character and shes the one for Jersey but people really love her. She has similar (dare I say it) Bethenny level fans for her. I cant see what she does that makes her so worthy. If anything, Jacqueline or even Caroline (I dont like her) should have a bigger fan base than Tree.

      • She’s more interesting than Jaq and Caroline. She’s got a good underdog story going for her this year. If you don’t read the blogs and online articles – I could see buying what she’s selling (figuratively and literally), I’ve read all of it, and I still find her hard to hate. I’m not a fan by any means, but Melissa hasn’t impressed me so far.

        • ATLmeetsNYC09 says:

          Good points. I have a feeling that Teresa is about to show her true colors very soon.

        • nathania says:

          I get it!

          Teresa’s fans can’t read!!!

          so simple, when you put it that way. 🙂

    • nathania says:

      it’s not strange at all. to be a fan of Teresa you have to be as crazy as she is.

      fan of Teresa=lunatic by default
      it’s not a far cry from lunatic to fanatic.

      plus I think she’s paying for it…the p.r., the call ins, the blog comments spewing ridiculous levels of hate at Melissa. Teresa sees this as a competition not unlike a beauty pageant, and she wants to win at any cost.

  71. Adgirl says:

    I had no idea that Juicy Joe had robots in her basement to rig WWHL phone polls for Teresa.

    • nathania says:

      ha, that reminds me of ‘mo money, mo problems

      “No info, for the, DEA
      Federal agents mad cause I’m flagrant
      Tap my cell, and the phone in the basement”

      yeah I bet juicy has the phones rigged up right next to where all the money is buried.

  72. glammedupthug says:

    Anyone catch that Vicki will be on WWHL either next Thur or Sun? I wonder if this was a last minute booking and Vicki wants to give her side of the news hitting the blogs and newspapers?

    • She is going to get HAMMERED.

    • nathania says:

      It’s completely bizarre to me that no Alex McCord on WWHL. The last two episodes centered around her. She has won ever poll in a vs. match so far this season, and lost all the bad polls, so why is she not being included on WWHL. I am so sick of Andy shoving Caroline Manzo and Lou ann down our throats…I don’t even watch their scenes on their respective housewives shows, and if either of them (or Jill or the rest of the brunettes) etc are on WWHL I don’t watch.

      Andy must really hate Alex.

      • TLM says:

        I think Telenovella Alex is incredibly boring and I just can’t deal with her stilted manner of speaking and Arnold Horshack laugh. She and Simon this season have just made me cringe.

        But that may or may not be the reason she hasn’t been on WWHL. I’m sure Andy would put a hamster on WWHL if he thought it would get viewers. Personally I’m just happy I haven’t heard Ben Weiner on there recently. Hey, wait — is he related to Anthony???!!???

  73. Nancy says:

    Remember when Joe and Teresa met at the cafe and Tre started in letting Joe know she was upset because he didn’t show up at the signing. Joe responds with “I’m sorry no one every wrote a book before in our family
    My husband and I said at the same “You mean no one in your family has ever READ a book in your family.”

    I think it’s time for us to get a life.

  74. Nancy says:


  75. lillybee says:

    Off topic

    Tree, NeNe, Jill and I even will include Betheny (pregnancy test on camera) have lost the contest to be the biggest famewhores on TV. The Duggars have won. They allowed their DIL to be filmed giving birth on the toilet during an “unassisted” home birth. I don’t believe that the daughter in law knew what she was in for when she married into that clan.

  76. coocoopuffs78 says:

    I’m probably in the minority here but I think Teresa came off as very childish and petty in her talk with her brother. Her reasons for disliking Melissa seem almost exaggerated. I’m not saying that Joe and Melissa aren’t guilty of keeping the feud going but I really think Melissa is the lesser of the two evils when it comes to her and Teresa. I also thought that Joe did great at pointing out how much alike his wife and sister are. Hi Lynn!!!

  77. Lady Brooks says:

    Lynn, I owe you a debt of gratitude for reading my post. I feel so honored as I love your blog! I am but a new blogger & would love to reciprocate, but I don’t know how! Could you please email me? lady_brooks@ymail.com. Looking forward to a very long friendship.

    • Anita says:

      Loved your blog on LuLu being Australian I just don’t understand why she thinks her opinion is so correct and is the only one that counts. Yelling over other people doesn’t make you more clever it simply shows a need to bully. Listening more than speaking is such a wonderful skill. As we all believe we are right but guess what sometimes the other person may actually know a thing or two, LUANN.

  78. after reading most of the comments im glad i didnt watch and instead watched the season finale of the Killing
    OMG that is how you do a finale
    make people think the killer is one person and then find out at the last sec it may not me
    wont say anymore in case people are watching the show and havent seen it yet but it was great
    all im gona say is i think the actual killer is a woman

  79. IndianaHousewife says:

    I hate to admit this but I felt some sympathy for Teresa last night. Please correct me if I am wrong but didn’t both Kathy & Rich and Joey & Melissa say they would love to help her out but Teresa won’t ask for help? What planet are these people from? To me they came off as wanting Teresa to beg for their help. It made me think yeah they will help her about the same as giving her the scraps from their table and she better be prepared to show the appropriate appreciation.

    I mean come on, if I was Teresa I would sit there and say everything is fine also. Why would I open myself up to people who are being critical of me and who do not have my best interest at heart? I have always been a pretty private person and I do not share failures, hurts, worries, etc with anyone other than my husband. I just don’t figure other people need to know about my personal issues, I smile say everything is all right and then go home and do what needs done.

  80. Frieda Nol says:

    Do you have a Facebook page or Twitter? Would love to follow you there, I’m on my iPhone and love reading your stuff!

  81. Angel says:

    About all the houses Tre and Joe “own”. Once I went to Paris and rented an apartment for a week. Sometimes my sister lets me use her place in the mountains. I help my daughter with the rent on her college apt. I’m going to start telling people I have property in Paris, upstate NY and Florida. Also I’m sure Tre and Joe put down very small or no down payment at all so if they do actually have all this property is it heavily mortgaged. Probably they bought during the run up to the mortgage crisis in this country, there was a lot of money and shady deals going on, it was easy to buy stuff with little money down and not a lot of paperwork or background checking involved. Thats what created the big banking and Wall St. mess we have now.

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