I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of Orange County Lost Footage

I Hate Jill Zarin  The Real Housewives of Orange County Lost Footage Special

There is nothing “special” about having to watch Tamra Barney and Vicki Gunvalson continue to develop their mean girls persona’s.  These two women are enjoying the title of two of the most hated housewives in history.  Worse than Taylor Armstrong, worse than Kim Zolciak and worse than Michaele Salahi.  (no one is worse than Jill Zarin!)

Maybe it is simply because the others aren’t on TV at the moment but I can’t remember Taylor, Kim or Michaele being as bad as these two.  Tamra smiles and giggles as Alexis is telling viewers about her father dying, postpartum depression and having financial difficulty.  Tamra apparently forgets that just last season she had to short sale her house and left her husband because the funds ran out.  As long as she was getting birthday parties on yacht’s and Rolex watches, it was all great and loving with Simon.  I firmly believe that if Simon was still rolling in the dough, Tamra’s ass would still be under Simon’s thumb.

Tamra thinks that Gretchen is jealous of her?  Who would be jealous of the washed up 40+ housewife whose face looks like it is literally melting and pretending to be a teenager and doing soft-porn on a reality show?

From Tamra’s Blog:

After watching the reunion show, I laid in bed that night thinking for hours about how sad all the women appeared when discussing what happened this season. So many things went through my head, and the one thing that stood out most was how the truth has always, and will always, prevail.

Tamra doesn’t know truth from fiction anymore, this grown woman, mother of four children spends all of her time delving into Gretchen and Slade’s life and for what?  Simply so she can attack them on a reality show?  It is possible that what Tamra is saying is true but she has no proof, she is assuming a whole lot about both Slade and Gretchen but the bottom line is that it truly is none of her business what they do with their lives and she has more than enough to worry about in her own life and should focus on her own family.

From Vicki’s blog:

Donn’s comments about respecting him and giving him dignity — I did both. I respected Donn through our entire marriage and even after we filed. In fact, I still respect Donn. We have known each other for a very long time, and the last thing I want to do is to hurt him. What you don’t know is I’ve been hurt too by many things that Donn has done to disrespect me, and I will never talk about it or disclose any of them. What good will it do? 

Vicki respected Donn through their marriage?  Was it only on-screen in front of millions of people that she disrespected Donn?  Because we saw her being extremely disrespectful, rude and condescending with her husband.  We’ve also watched as she hit on other guys and shamelessly flirted with other men on-screen.


Not to mention the photos…

Vicki makes bad choices in Las Vegas

Vicki says she’s not going to spill all the things that Donn has done to her, she asks viewers why she would bad-mouth Donn, what good would it do?   I don’t believe that Donn was disrespectful to Vicki, of course he isn’t perfect but with the exception of Peggy’s dinner party, Donn was very respectful to his wife on-screen and in talking head interviews.  Vicki, on the other hand was constantly making snide comments and trying to belittle her husband.

I sincerely hope that Donn Gunvalson finds a wonderful woman who shows him respect and makes him happy.  I sincerely hope that Vicki Gunvalson gets taken for all of her money by a deadbeat dad who lives with Eddie Judge.

From Tamra’s blog:

It’s obvious that no one should be in anyone’s personal business, and it makes me sick that we all have stooped to that level. I know in my heart that Slade’s child support issues are not my business, but I am not about to sit there and listen to Slade and Gretchen accuse me of cheating on Simon, claiming Eddie was Simon’s best friend, that I have no regard for my kids, or creating unfounded rumors about Eddie without even knowing him.

I love her opening line in this paragraph, she is sickened that they have “all” stooped to that level.  I don’t think “all” the housewives have stooped to your level Tamra, maybe Jeana stuck her nose in your business but we didn’t see anyone on-screen sticking their nose in your business the way you have with Slade and Gretchen.  No one else is calling your ex asking for dirt.  Just you!  We’re all sickened by you too Tamra!

Tamra’s low-class beginnings are evident in her blog and really in everything she does and says.

So I think to myself, “Why do they think it’s OK for them to bash me about my personal life? Is it for the sole purpose of getting attention? Is it to get so much attention that the lie becomes a twisted truth? Perhaps it’s to take the attention off of him and make me look like I am the only one talking about him?”

She even thinks to her self stupidly!  Who is looking for attention by calling Slade’s ex?  We all heard what the woman said, she said that Slade wasn’t paying “expenses”, she never confirmed that he wasn’t paying child support in fact she said there were records of what he DID pay in child support.  Reports are that Slade’s ex won’t allow him to see his son, that sounds pretty immature and will only hurt the child…but I digress, back to Tamra.

Does it piss me off? Yes! But there is a logical side of me that’s learning to say, “Who cares what they say!” What I am learning is that it takes a stronger person to ignore the lies and rumors that they are saying about me.

Ignore what lies and rumors?  That you slept with Eddie before your divorce was final?  That’s a fact!  That you spent the week that you were supposed to spend with your children in Spain with your lover and left your kids with your mother?  Another fact!

Gretchen’s blog is full of “facts” although she does need to learn the difference between a fact and her opinion.  She’s not spreading rumors or lying, and much of what she says in her blog are facts but many are opinions too.

On to the show:

Did Vicki really say that if Donn didn’t want to get divorced he would fight for her?  How much does she really want to humiliate this man?  He has already been made a fool of for six years on television.  She’s cheated on him, she’s been nasty to him, she’s snarked at him and she’s made fun of him.  Vicki thinks Donn should humiliate himself more by begging her not to divorce him?  Vicki said herself that she froze the guy out of her life.  Her business trips and late nights at the office made it clear that she had no more interest in her husband, she admitted that she lost the passion for her husband but she really thinks that he should continue to try to hold onto this marriage?  Is she trying to ensure that viewers have absolutely no respect left for this man the way she does?  What a bitch!

I admit that I was a little disappointed to learn that Lynne Curtain wasn’t going to be on the show this season.  While I thought she and her husband were ridiculous as parents, they had no idea what they were doing but the one nice thing about Lynne that was rare in a Bravo Housewife is that she didn’t have a mean bone in her body.  She wasn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer and sometimes she was shopping with an empty cart but she was always nice.  She never sought out to make another housewife look bad and she rarely spoke badly behind other’s backs.

A few disappointments tonight, the first one is to find out that Lynne is friends with Tamra!  The second disappointment is that Gretchen really did rip off the handbag deal from Lynne!  I’ve always been on Gretchen’s side even when reports came out that her cosmetics were really just a generic brand that she slapped her name on and it failed I didn’t hold it against her but this handbag thing is different.

Lynne Curtain was offered the line and turned it down as she wanted to create her own designs, Gretchen then met these people through Lynne and made a deal of her own. As Lynne explained how this company works, Gretchen has basically done the same thing with the handbags as she had done with the cosmetics.  Lynne said it, “you just slap your name on them”.

Quite honestly had Gretchen done this to Tamra I probably could have forgiven Gretchen but Lynne Curtain is a sincerely nice person who has only good intentions.  Even as her children walk all over her, it is simply because she doesn’t want them to dislike her.

Taylor could eat her whole!

Lynne’s not a genius but she’s not mean.  I have a feeling the only reason Bravo dumped her is because she probably failed the drug test.

The meeting between Gretchen and Lynne really showed Gretchen’s guilt to me, she was defensive but really had no defense at all, she just kept trying to make Lynne look bad by saying she never listens yet Gretchen wasn’t saying anything.  Those computer printout’s that she pulled out of her bag were merely color and fabric samples with some horrible drawings.  Lynne asked her where she shops for her leather and Gretchen just kept telling Lynne to listen to her.  Gretchen couldn’t answer the question and just ended up storming out of the restaurant.  Gretchen acted like a guilty person.

I had no idea that Lynne had expanded her business from cuffs to bedding, furniture and even dog collars.  I hope Lynne’s business does great, she can give away a hash brownie with every sale!  I kid I kid!

I know you all join me in feeling the deepest sympathy for Gretchen who weighed 140 pounds at her heaviest and was destroyed about it….sigh!

Vicki’s book signing was rightfully cut out of the regular season, unfortunately we had to hear that horrible song written about Vicki by a fan coupled with a montage of Vicki being horrible and saying “woohoo” over and over.  I literally cringe every single time she says that!

In another embarrassing scene, Donn Gunvalson takes Vicki’s dog to OC Housewives dog training.  Vicki is too busy to attend so maybe one of those nice women training their dog will be Donn’s new woman?

For the first time ever in Orange County Housewives history, I felt a little bit of sympathy for Tamra Barney.  To watch your child suffer and have to go through surgery, even though he did it to himself, was pretty sad.  One thing I never wish on anyone is for their child to be sick, regardless of their age it has to be life’s worst experience when something happens to your child.  Tamra’s son Ryan had taken steroids in the past and they were concerned that a lump in his chest could be cancer, luckily it wasn’t and all is good with Ryan, you may return to hating Tamra Barney now.

Luckily we didn’t have to sit through much of Peggy, but we were forced to see her husband’s reckless spending as he brought home his vehicle with new $700 each brand new tires on it.  They had to get rid of their Lamborghini due to financial problems but luckily they didn’t have to give up the Hummer or the Bentley.   I sincerely hope this is Peggy’s first and last season!  Bring back Lynne Curtain toking on a bong hit any day!

Platinum Hit by Quincy IL

There are nine songwriters competing this week.  We see them in their apartments.  Johnny was first last week and he is happy because he does not want to return to computer programming.

Jewel meets with the songwriters in the studio and tells them that the hook this week is based on the idea of superheroes and it is to be a rap. Jewel introduces them to a song writer, Rodney Jenkins. They are impressed that he worked with Michael Jackson and Lady Gaga.

The songwriters have 30 minutes to create their hook so they go to their corners and pound out their songs.   Again this week, Nick is bothered by the people around him.  Again this week, Melissa is loud and she does not make sense.  She sings, “I want to have the power.” Amber’s hook is lyrically powerful. Jackie is a “cracker”.  Nick is” Invisoman.” Sonyae has “a heart of steel.”

After a discussion, Jewel and Rodney announce the winners:

3rd  Jackie who wrote the hook as  a comedy

2nd  Sonyae who sang about waterproof mascara and heart.

1st Johnny whose hero could walk through walls.

The Judges allow the winner to select the teams that will write the song from the hook.

Johnny chose Scott then Jes.  Johnny and Jes are “in love,” but he did not pick her first.

Sonyae chose Nick who she hates and later Melissa.

Jackie chose Brian.  Amber was the last song writer chosen.

Jackie decides to continue writing the song as a comedy, but she adds a 1940’s vibe because Amber works with that type of music. Brian will write the tract.  Brian works alone while the ladies create the lyrics.  Amber contributes less to the song as Jackie is a dominating person. Brian is very unhappy on this team.

Sonyae and Nick argue while Melissa plays the electric piano. Sonyae and Nick create the song and Melissa stands back and watches them go to war. They use the idea of an R&B pop song.

Johnny and Jes are an item and that is a problem for Nick if they are the losing song. He thinks he will be thrown under the bus by the lovebirds. 

The songwriters dress for the performance.  Johnny shares that he is very nervous.

The judges are Jewel, Kara DiGuardi, Keith Naftaly, and Rodney Jenkins.

The order of performances is Johnny, Sonyae, and Jackie.

Johnny’s trio is very theatrical. They are in a triangle facing out when the song begins and Johnny becomes the rap singer.  Jes sings opera.  That was Scotty’s idea.

Sonyae wears sunglasses and she raps with Nick. Melissa plays the electric piano and moves with the music.

Jackie lyrics are odd rather than funny.  Amber sings a 1940s ballad that has odd rhymes during the rap song  presentation.

Nick says he wants to have sex with Amber in an interview.

The judges ask Johnny and Sonyae to step on the stage with their team members.  The judges compliment both songs. When Johnny turned into Ludicrous, the judges were sold and his team won first place again this week. Keith Naftaly tells Sonyae that he could work with her song to make it a hit.

These six song writers return to their conference space and share their thoughts about who will be sent home. Nick hopes Jackie will go because she never shuts up.

The judges hated the lyrics.  The original hook leads them to the idea of a comedic song which songwriters and famous artists do perform and sell, but this was a flop. Jackie has been in this position for several weeks now. She cried again this time.  Brian’s music did not fit. Amber contributed a line that the judges hated. Amber mentioned that she was looking for” Human depth” and Karen said she should be a nurse and not a song writer.

The miss went to Amber.  She went to say goodbye and was greeted by hugs and tears.  Nick is sad that Amber is going and not Jackie. Amber told the songwriters that she loved them and that they were all amazing. She will continue to write songs and she thinks nurses are compassionate and compassion helps in writing music and lyrics.

At the end of the show, the speaker mentioned that you can buy the winning song at bravotv.com.  There a link to a facebook page at bravotv.com and I noticed that Scotty and several other songwriters from the show are posting there if you would like to contact them.

Great Job as always Quincy!

The Real Housewives of New York are filming their reunion this week, in fact, tomorrow I’m told.  Send your questions in to Andy Cohen, be sure to call out Luann, Jill and Kelly for their horrible behavior and hypocrisy.  Of course Cindy for her childish, idiotic behavior but I almost don’t want to even ask Cindy questions, I mean who really cares what she has to say?  Let’s all hope she’s not on Season Five!  

We know that they’re all sworn to secrecy as to what was said and done on the reunion, we’ll just have to wait until the end of the season but it’s going to be interesting!

Ramona Tweeted that she was out with Alex and Simon tonight, they are TRUE friends!

@ramonasinger w @mccordalex and @SimonvanKempen and Mario to eat after the movie premiere @averysinger went home 
Simon Tweeted:
SimonvanKempen   @ the #BadTeacher premiere w/ Bobby & Mario! Oh & @RamonaSinger @JillZarin @McCordAlex & @CountessLuann r here 2 It’s a mini #RHoNY reunion!

Until Next time…

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505 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of Orange County Lost Footage

  1. IndianaHousewife says:

    Moved from last blog: ( I get to be first finally!!)

    I see differing opinions on last night’s lost footage, but I enjoyed it almost more that what was first shown. It seemed to me that the reactions of the Housewives were more real than what we have been seeing all season.

    I think I get why Lynn was upset. She had the idea for purses and no other housewives were trying to sell this item. I would guess that Gretchen was with her during the off season and met the two guys that wanted to use only her name. Then when filming starts again Gretchen has a platform to sell from, however Lynn who had the idea first is no longer on the show. Just my guess.

    It also explains why all of the OC wives keep saying anyone can slap their name on a handbag, it doesn’t make them a designer. I hadn’t really thought about it before but I would imagine that they get asked to put their names on just about everything.

    In true snark fashion I think we should suggestions for the ideal product for each housewife to endorse. For instance an obvious one would be to have a selection of toilet paper rolls with each housewife’s picture printed on it,then you could use the toilet paper according to who you disliked the most that week.

    There are many people much funnier than me here I would love to read your thoughts.

    • Icky and Trampy should endorse summers eve
      being taht they are the shows biggest douches

    • Kerry Okie says:

      Jill should be the spokesperson for Depends, for all those times when someone won’t offer you a bathroom. Theresa should endorse McCormick’s herb and spice blends, for those who have trouble with more than one ingredient.

    • Powell says:

      I don’t get why Lynne was upset. I really don’t understand the Housewives and how they don’t support one another. I don’t care what venture they decide to go into, but these women should be supportive when one of them does something so positive. Vicki wrote a book to empower women to take care of themselves, not todepend on others and when Gretchen had her makeup line Vicki said why start a makeup line, there are new ones every year. When Gretchen started the handbag line Vicki said if I want a handbag I’ll buy a real designer bag. When Alexis started her clothing line Tamra said I wouldn’t buy any of the dresses. They should all support one another whether they succeed or fail women would show support. That’s one of the biggest problem with so many women, they are not supportive of other women. Women get enough of that from men, not being supportive. These Housewives are jealous if one of them does something good. Why couldn’t Lynne just be happy that Gretchen is trying to succeed and make this business work? Why does Gretchen’s handbag line threaten Lynne? After all Lynne said it. She designs her handbags, therefore doesn’t she have a different business model than Gretchen? A more unique business than Gretchen? I say she may have a greater advantage. She should look at it that way instead of thinking she can be the only handbag designer in the OC.

      • mostly because the only woman Icky cares about besides her hideous self is Trampy

        as for why Lynn cant be happy most likely she misses those extra bucks she made from bravo and knows they would only take her back if she finally decided to play a bitch

        as you can see she isnt very good at it

        • NJ Bev says:

          I thought Lynn was a very good Bitch-she totally pissed me off!!
          Thru the entire dialogue between she and Gretchen I kept thinking
          that Lynn was really trying to “bring it” in order to show Bravo that she
          was worthy of of being an OC housewife!! she was def, going for the
          drama! she’s just no good at it, (convincingly bringing the drama)-
          i think she’s lame at everything, esp. being a parent. maybe that’s
          why i find it so hard to give her a pass on anything. JMHO

      • Tamra Is Trash says:

        I worked with women like them. They would never give me a compliment no matter what. They were jealous and I realize that now. The smartest thing I ever did, regarding those vipers, was getting away from them. They were horrible and I had never encountered such venom like that before.

  2. HD says:

    I missed the show as I figured it would be boring and I was sleepy.

    How how Gretchen rip off an idea when Lynn turned it down? Seems like she just accepted an opportunity that Lynn did not want.

    The video of Vicki was interesting to watch, hindsight being 20.20. I remember that trip I think. Vicki seems to me like the type that flirts for attention but that wouldn’t seal the deal. I guess once her marriage went all the way down hill she said forget it and got with the deadbeat guy.

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      Hi Sweetie~
      I felt the same way~still not happy with Lynn being friends with Trampon..
      Don’t think Vicky is using her brain at all & that’s a shame. I would still be upset seeing those pics if I were Donn. We don’t ever see pics of him with other women have we?
      Anyhoo it’s good to see you Hannah Montana~
      Thank you Lynn & Q & boston. 🙂

      • Amber...Real Wife says:

        She passed on the opportunity AND was USED by the Manufacturers/Distributors to get an introduction to Gretchen. An active HW vs. a has been HW…. uh Gretch got the job! Also I feel Gretchen didn’t need to ask for Lynn’s blessings or permission to launch a line, nor get in any business. Like all, the HW’s are extremely superstitious and don’t count the chickens before they hatch. It seemed a case of SourGrapes by Lynn.

        • Candace says:

          My thoughts also.

          Lynn turned down the chance, Gretchen took it.

          How is that stealing it?

          Dumb ass Lynn.

        • cdninvegas says:

          Wow – in that scene with Lynne and Gretch, Lynne looked more wasted than usual, and her hair was a supremely hot mess. Gretchen’s hair was weird but looked like it was “done” for the scene. Guess Lynne doesn’t get the VIP treatment before shooting anymore. Anybody know why she kept popping up this season? Do you think she got a fee for individual appearances?

    • apparently she sealed that deal many many times with that guy years ago
      as well as a bunch of younger better looking guys that must have been hard up
      i do agree 100 per cent about Gretchen seeing an oppurtunity and going with it
      Lynn is just bitter

  3. okeydoekey says:

    Lumann will never take ownership of her behavior no matter how many questions we send in.

  4. quincyil says:

    I am excited about Million Dollar Decorators tonight. That show is a huge hit. The decorators are really good and they have personalities made for reality TV

    I understand how you create a song now. I think I could do a better job that many of the contestants on Platinum Hit. I am going to sit at the piano and make Lynnnchicgo come up with the lyrics. I think I may be able to sell them to Simon van Kempen.

    54 years of playing the piano is finally going ot pay off big time.

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      I did not think that show would be to my liking but it was. From the promo the woman with long black hair looked pretty mean too but she was alright. It was much better than I thought it would be & I am watching Rocco’s Dinner Party now for the 1st time & he’s a little disturbing with his remarks to the chefs.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      I’m looking forward to Decorators too. I’m thinking I should start to spell my name with a fancy Y in the middle, talk with an accent, and wear a chain for a necklace. I already got a new sofa and ottoman over the weekend, so I’m all set to add Decorator to my resume.

    • Nancy says:

      Did any of your children continue to play/study classical music?

      • quincyil says:

        All of them took Suzuki violin from the time that they were 3. My daughter was a violinist in the Brown University Orchestra and played a solo for Issac Perlman. My oldest son played the tuba for five years at Missou and marched in the Bush II Inaguaration parade. My youngest plays the sax with a group, but his is a big time computer security expert and he does it to relax. My daughter also played wind instruments and the piano.

        When my granddaugter was 5 months old I bought her a 1968 Baldwin baby grand owned by a concert pianist from Boston. She plays and remembers notes, creates music and she is almost 2 now. She is featured on facebook video singing, dancing and playing the piano. She gets rave reviews from family and friends. rotfl.

        • Nancy says:

          What a small world. I used to teach Suzuki for the cello a long time ago. You daughter sound like she was really good. I hope she continues playing. We have an Orchestra here at UCSF. Thats where we played the Villa lobes for 8 cello’s and soprano that I told you about.
          You were a good mother for doing this for your children. 🙂

          • Nancy says:

            Oh ya,
            I STILL have “Twinkle twinkle little star” in my head and probably always will. You?

            • quincyil says:

              I have books of songs in my head. LOL. I am taking the books east in July when I drive.

              I met Dr. Suzuki in a Wisconsic camp at a college. We have photos of him with my daughter adjusting the bow on the violin.

          • Caitlin says:

            Wow, Nancy, you are certainly a multitalented, multifaceted, fascinating person – color me very impressed indeed!

  5. nic says:

    I don’t care how much Simon protests on Twitter- It is apparent from that picture that Alex DOES partake of the Botox 😉 Could her forehead be any tighter? lol

  6. A tweet from Jill:

    Jillzarin: Producer MILLER told Bobby he couldn’t sit and eat for 5 minutes on HIS SOFAS that were reserved. I want to pour something on him!

    • viki55 says:

      That woman is sick….something is wrong with her….something bad. She may be is worse mental shape than Kelly.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      If you look hard enough, you can find fault with anything, I guess. See Quincy, THIS is how you find things to tweet about!

    • T-REX says:

      I saw that, FYI JZILLA those are not Bawby’s Sofas, they are sofas that were reserved for his fat @ss to sit on while waiting to go into a premier, because gawd forbid he actually has to stand for 5 minutes. If a producer does not want someone eating while on them that is their right they OWN them and don’t want them to look like crap if everyone drops their food on them! Uhm, and your Bawby can’t go 5 minutes without a snack no wonder he is so overweight! You should have eaten on your way there, or waiting until you were in the theater to eat some snacks, like normal civilized people!

    • Nancy says:

      WHat is she talking about? Was it last night at movie premier?
      Jill, Spend a day in our shoes here at IHJZ. Then we can talk.

    • Kerry Okie says:

      Yes, and I bet that evil producer didn’t offer Bobby a bathroom or drink of water either.

    • Who is Producer MILLER?

      But that typical Jill- this is the same woman who got all huffy when an Olympian coach told her to GTFO the ice when she decided that she should just be able to go out and skate.

  7. Powell says:

    Last night during the show Tamra put on FB that Sophia made Lynne a purse out of paper towels & staples. Was Tamra letting the kids watch Bravo? Violation, not in the agreement w/Simon

  8. WindyCityWondering says:

    Took a pass on the lost footage because frankly this past season IMO was never found!

    • vilzvet says:

      Or it never happened! Really I cannot recall one thing that stands out…cannot wait for the Bev Hills ladies to return!

  9. This is an interesting little article about Andy Cohen. Bravo/Comcast want him to replace Regis Philbin because they aren’t happy with his job performance as an Executive VIP Of Original Programming.


    • I suppose there will be tons of rumors about who is replacing Regis. Every time I see a page 6 gossip piece I think Jill probably planted it.

    • T-REX says:

      I saw this, and while it may or may not be true, certainly the implication that Bravo is not happy with his Original Programming choices, could well lead to a complete cast change on RHNY as predicted whether AC likes it or not. Can’t wait until we can read the day Jzilla is dropped and sing “Ding Dong the Bitch is gone”

      • Nancy says:

        But then what would WE do?

      • its all complete b/s
        if they weren’t happy with his choices they never would have promoted him
        and Live with regis and kelly isnt owned by nbc but by abc
        ps for the last time and i cant believe how many times ive had to say this comcast does NOT have controlling shares in Bravo anymore they may not even get a vote on anything that matters the majority shareholder is GE again
        which is another reason bravo promotes nbc based shows

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Andy isn’t all that much in the hosting department. He doesn’t do reunions well because he asks a question but doesn’t pursue an answer. WWHL is successful when the guests are interesting but Andy doesn’t truly interact with them in a conversational way. But I can see him wanting to get out of diva wrangling!

      • Mel says:

        Not only that, but his favoritism is showing. Why have Pegs on more than once and not ask her any difficult questions? Why have JZ on and softball her??

      • Andy does love Kelly R. but I think he’s be awful during a daytime talk show. He’s got his routine down now – quiz, questions, clips/montage – but I don’t think he is good on his feet like Kelly R or Ellen. Sadly this would be a fail – he couldn’t pretend to be drunk – no one would think it’s funny.

        • Mel says:

          Remember how difficult it was for him in the early reunions?! He just shutdown. I can see it- he would sit and giggle at Kelly 🙂

        • Kansas Girl says:

          Besides, I think he’s more of a night owl/ party guy. I can’t imagine how he’d function doing early mornings EVERY DAY.

          • Deco says:

            Kansas girl,
            Hhe wouldn’t be able to flit around the country visiting housewives, doing reunions and whatever else he tweets about from a plane. He would need to be in NYC to host daily.. and you’re right. He’s a busy party boy and his nightlife forays would have to be minimal.

            • Debbie says:

              Deco is me…I didn’t realize it had loaded that way..I’ll check from now on because i dont want to post here under 2 names. My apologies. I do not know where my avi went.. (it said “I had a nightmare i was a brunette 😉 )

      • Powell says:

        You’re so right. Andy doesn’t ask questions the fans want the answers to. I alread suggested to Andy on FB that he have a guest Blogger (LynnNChicago) be at the NY reunion.

    • just the fact that they got the comcast thing wrong is enough to tell me it isnt a true story

      • Stella says:

        I saw an article on TVGUIDE.COM that says the contenders for replacing Regis are Andy Cohen, Ryan Seacrest, and Kelly’s husband Mark. They made sure to mention that it is only rumored to be true and no one will confirm it yet but they related the pros and cons of each candidate. Andy’s pros were his experience in hosting WWHL and the Reunion specials and his connections with celebrities like Liam Neeson, Tina Fey, and I thingk SJP. The only con I remember is that they thought if he took Regis’ place he wouldn’t be able to host WWHL anymore.

        • nathania says:

          if seacrest is in the running he will get it.

          I don’t think Mark Consuelos can carry it, and Seacrest is a way better shape-shifter than Andy, he will contort himself every which way to be exactly what they want. Andy is a one-trick pony, plus he could never take the early morning hours the way he drinks.

          • does anyone REALLY wanna see more of Seacrest on anything though and Mark being kellys hubby does give him an edge
            and the fact that Andy is real life friends with the couple is another reason i dont believe he would even pursue it

            peopel think that he isnt making all that much cause its just Bravo BUT lol they forget he is actually working for NBC

          • nic says:

            If Ryan does get it, I doubt he would be able to host Idol anymore. It’s in LA and owned by FOX.

    • sue says:

      Its funny that you brought this up about Andy moving, I had met someone last weekend who just left one of the departments at Bravo (He was not the only one who moved on to make more money so he spoke freely, but I agreed no names or pics till his other position is secured)..Anyway, when we were discussing Jill and how she “gets away with soo much”, In his opinion, he truly believe that the gentleman w/most of the control of a few of the networks and various shows (No, not Andy) is related to Bobby or Jills side of the family (he wasnt sure whos) he is well respected in the jewish community and apparently that is how jill gets alot of her followers, but Jill does not only complain to her husband and lawyers and Andy for that matter she also has the ear of a “Big Boss” if you will, and all because of her religion, which to me is soo unfair. I was going to add this tid bit at the time I found out about the “PR peeps and Lumans “New mean girl” campaign, but it was hard for me to believe, but after reading this article and other pieces of info., Maybe there is some truth to this….Cause we all know, Andy hasnt been keeping miss Jill happy along with her cohorts Luann, kelly and Cindy and believe it or not (this is my own thought),I think Cindy could have someones ear to!

      • plainviewsue says:

        I doubt thats true. Last season Jill was portrayed just as she is. The mean girl who tried to take down Bethenny. If Jill had that type of connection, she would have been seen in a better light.

        • sue says:

          Like I said, I did not add that when I wrote my previous comment from a few days ago, and I really am not trying to start something, I just thought it was interesting, because that was the road “my informant”(lol) was going down when we were discussing it…Just to add, he in no way shape or form was offering any of this information in a vicious way!

          • quincyil says:

            I believe that Bobby might be a big shot in the Jewish community and he probably knows people.

            Comcast bought NBC Universal and they are not New Yorkers. They are conservative businessmen and they are interested in the bottom line.

            Platinum Hit is awful, but Million Dollar Decorators is good and Rocco’s Dinner Party seemed interesting.

            No one is perfect when it comes to knowing if a show will work.

            I don’t think that Bravo or Comcast like being threatened by lawyers as Jill claims she did over the poll.

            I think the NY show is a problem.

            • Q they bought SHARES and at one time Comcast had controling shares in Bravo but then they sold back a lot of it to GE
              why is it that no one else seems to know anything about this

              this was how it was before they sold back the controlling shares to GE
              so even then they didnt own nbc they had the controling shares but since then GE does

            • sue says:

              Agreed, that show and really only that show (meaning w/Jill,Luann, and Kelly mostly)is what I have a problem with. If they would try a new cast, I would give it a try,but if wasnt any good I would not drag it out either!

        • LynnnSoCal says:

          Hey all Jill Haterz, including myself, I don’t post much anymore but do read regularly. As the HWives of the various unfortunate communities have become so VH1, I can’t get as involved with them. I enjoyed the shows in RHONY and even RHONJ in the beginning. I remember thinking how cute and over the top that “perky little Teresa” was. I know, how things have changed! I loved the luxury, free spending, gorgeous clothes(NY). It was fun escapism. This ugliness that has become Real Housewives I will pass on. People seem to have lost respect for common courtesy. These women are vile. Yes, I realize it’s scripted, but why is it necessary to agree to behave so degradingly? It’s demeaning to them and women in general. I can honestly say I don’t know any women that behave like the Housewives. I know as long as I participate Bravo will keep lowering the bar. It’s all about ratings and money. I think Bobby Zarin uses Jill’s flaky little businesses as a tax write off. Which is why there’s not a lot of incentive for her to actually succeed at them. Bethenny is a real commodity. I admire her work ethic.
          I also read Writer’s Guild articles. These shows have become so staged, (Melissa Gorga) I can no longer watch it as reality tv. I am linking an article of a day in the life of a “reality tv” writer for anyone who might be interested http://www.wga.org/organizesub.aspx?id=1096. I do love the snark on some blogs so I will always read. I’m always up for some laughs. You all have great wit and insight I enjoy. My opinions for the day, Jeeze! Guess I needed to vent.

          • Hey- how are you?

            • LynnSoCal says:

              I’m good, thanks for asking. Here regularly, just not commenting much. As you can see above, I’m over these ludicrous women. You know I think Jill and Luann actually think of themselves as real actresses! Which explains why Jill felt the need to be an honored guest on Inside the Actor’s Studio a while back. Get real, chick!
              I always perk up when I see your posts. Hope all is well with you, aloha RR

      • Debbie says:

        Jill may be related to a Jewish Bravo Big Boss, but I don’t think that she is shown preferential treatment because she is Jewish. Whatever the connection,I would hope the reason would lie solely in the relationship. She is not a good example for Jews or anyone else.. Secrets of a Jewish Mother should never be taken as anything other than dribble when it comes to advice. I’m a Jewish Mother, my daughter is a Jewish mother, my mother’s a Jewish mother. I cringe whenever anyone refers to the title of her book. To think people think that that’s the way we think and advise our children is embarrassing Half the shit she says is dreck. I think it goes without saying that NO mother, of any religious background would ever espouse her philosophy.

        • shadowsmom says:

          Amen. Neither Jill or Bobby are active in the Jewish community except when she is paid for an appearance and/or it will get her PR or media exposure and even those are few and very far between. It is easy to check since all the events, committees, boards etc. are all easy to access and you don’t see the Zarins anywhere.
          She also doesn’t have a great connection at NBC. If she did she would wield more power and have her own show – and Bethenny wouldn’t.

          Jill’s religion is used many times as a reason/excuse for her behavior and her connections when in fact, it is Jill’s only to own. People assuming that all Jews stick together good and bad and Jill’s bad behavior is because of her religion is getting old.

          • Sparkles says:

            I agree, it is getting old. The notion that all Jews stick together and control media is a stereotype.

        • BarbinGa says:

          I cant remember if it was on The Talk or on RHNY, but Jill basically said her sister wrote the book and she ‘contributed’. Is she trying to deflect since it’s clearly become a joke? For some reason that flashed in my mind after reading your comment. If so, way to throw your sister under the bus!

  10. AZ Girl says:

    Jills follower on Twitter 149,663

    • plainviewsue says:

      Can’t wait till June 30th when Jillzilla hopefully will see her numbers drop by the hundreds!!!!

    • Stella says:

      I loved that article. I loved how they called out Luann and this one was one of my favorites:

      9. “I figured if I put my initials on his shirt, if any girl ever hits on him, like she’ll say, ‘Whose initials are those?’ And he’ll have to say, ‘It’s my wife’s.’ That’ll be the end of her.” – Jill Zarin

      Are the chics really hitting on Bobby Zarin? Perhaps, there are the ones that have a weird daddy fetish or want a push over to pay for everything.

      • T-REX says:

        In addition, if a guy wants to have an affair and some random Bimbo asks who the initials are I am sure the guy in question would not answer his “wife’s”! He would probably say “no clue probably some Designer’s initials”, and go get his groove on~

      • She did that because she is a bitch. If he ever finds his balls and leaves her, he will have to go out and buy brand new $200 shirts.

  11. plainviewsue says:

    Sorry all, but I think Gretchen is a snake. She is being sued by her former make up partner. Now we see that she has little to do with a handbag line that has her name on it.

    I also miss Lynn! Yes, she is a flighty and her girls are awful, but there is something about her that is endearing! I had no idea that her business has grown to include so many items; good for her!! I don’t blame her for being upset with Gretchen.

    As for Tamra, I don’t hate her. I hope after being with such a controlling husband that Eddie can make her happy.

    The reason she laughed at the reunion when Alexis said she had post partum, was cos it was just ironic that once again, everything Peggy says Alexis tries to top. Of course post partum isn’t funny. It is very serious.

    Alexis is just an embarrassment. Fernanda would make a very good regular addition to the show, and I enjoyed seeing her on the reunion.

    • I had to chuckle when Lynne C. said designers always have their designs in their heads, not on sketch pads though.

      They are all hawking worthless merchandise. Sadly, Lynne doesn’t have a venue to promote hers any longer.

      Did Alexis say at the reunion her dress line was going well? If so – that would be a huge surprise.
      She by Sheree – and whatever it was Lisa tried to do. Deep sigh.

      • she kind of made a reference to it the funny thing is that couture by nature is usually one of a kind garments NOT manufactured by teh hundreds bravo has had all those runway designer shows and not once did andy say what the true def of couture was

        I love Shee By Sheree i do but when she said most designers dont do sketches i almost fell off the bed

        lol tell that to all those kids at parsons and FIT
        the only semi celeb i know in real life is a fashion designer and when he went to school his teacher was noneother then Tim (Make It So) Gunn
        id love to hear what he has to say about alexis line
        and they all got it wrong that dress with the sleves was FLAWLESS w/o it uit was just more hoochy ware

    • Nancy says:

      Finally I found someone that shares my view! I couldn’t agree with you more!
      I wish Bravo would bring Lynn back. I don’t get it. They fire Lynn but not crazy Kelly?
      What about “Taylor” Armstrong (Ford, whatever) Can anyone spell cocaine?
      Alexis is just a little dumb. I don’t think she would hurt anyone though. She can’t help her IQ.
      I would probably be a little hurt that Peggy went to the “other side” so soon after starting on the show.

    • what was her excuse for laughing when she said her dad had just died she is a vile and disgusting worm
      ps you do know that people are falsely sued all the time
      and when you start to become famous even if its for a lil reality show the creeps come out of the woodwork

      • plainviewsue says:

        She didn’t say her dad just died. She said that her dad died and was living with her when her twins were born and that’s when she had PPD. Tamra didn’t laugh out loud. Of course it is a serious condition. But what Tamra giggled at was the irony that there’s not one thing that happens in Peggy’s life that hasn’t happened in Alexis’ life.

        I agree about the lawsuits, but the bottom line the ones that Jay filed against her he has won.

        It’d be easier to like Gretchen if she didn’t have that awful laugh!

        • quincyil says:

          I am not a lawyer, but an excellent lawyer explained the lawsuits against Gretchen the other day.

          Winning does not mean he was right or that he told the truth.

        • Candace says:

          It would be easier to like Tamra if she didn’t get paid to have sex on film for her children to see.

          • I dont think there is anything trampy could do at this point to make me like her one iota
            that bathtub scene was an all time low and ill bet you dollars to doughnuts had it been Gretch and Slade doing it both Icky & TRampy would be the first two to call it porn

            when Icky sdays it looks romantic i kept saying to teh tv screen you are a sick delussional bitch Icky get help now

        • I love Gretchen and i dont think her laugh is so awful
          it may be like a nervous tick or simply that she does tickle herself i can tell you that i find myself laughing along with her
          ps it sure looked like trampy laughed when Gretch mentioned her dad had died

          also im sure there are lots of women in here that have had a lot of the things that happened to Piggy but even if Alexis si doing the one up thing i dont think she is even aware of it there are people out there that dont realize thier bad habits Trampy on the other hand sticks her nose into everyones buisness yet crys fowl when someone gives her a taste of her own medicine

    • cdninvegas says:

      Speaking of Fernanda…..her appearance on the couch last night is evidence that overdone hair and makeup is not always flattering. I didn’t even recognize her in the previews. She is a classic beauty who should stick with the au naturel look.

  12. kdsinms says:

    Gretchen needs to find something to sell that fits her better. Although she’s a beautiful lady, you can tell she doesn’t have great skin. And we’ve seen several times that she has someone come in and do her makeup. So, why would anyone want to buy makeup from her? And the purses don’t make sense either. They look like anything else you can buy in the store. But she’s always getting compliments on her hair.
    She should do a haircare and accessories line. She could sell hot rollers and demonstrate on qvc how to achieve her hairstyle. I think she’d sell a million of them.

    • Nancy says:

      After reading your first line I thought “Yes, like hair spray!”
      Gretchen has moles on the right side of her face. I think people think she has acne but she doesn’t.
      Her hair and make-up last night was just too much. Come on, really? This is a reality show? Don’t all of us look like Gretchen when we leave our homes every mornings?

      • some womed do look just like that and more
        ever see what a typical dallas h/w looks when she leaves her house
        its VERY that way

        • Yes – that’s totally true. BIG HAIR!. Maybe it’s the same for OC. Thankfully not in my part of the world.

          • quincyil says:

            NJ and Dallas have big hair.

            • LOL I shave MY head
              no women in my family ever had big hair

              well one aunt but it was in the 60’s and she had a bee hive and looked very glam back then

              but seriously no one on my side or jimmys side have that “jersey girl ” look and were both Italian
              now its not like we dont see it in our area but not as much as you would think

              its funny to us that this season they did so much filming in Wayne because wayne isnt liek a ritzy area by any stretch of the imagination

          • HWA what part of the world would that be

        • Nancy says:

          I’m sooooo glad I live in San Fran because it’s a No makeup free zone!

          • Debbie says:

            Having reached a “certain age”, I no longer have the need to impress.. I leave the house clean, dressed and shod, my long hair brushed out and neat. Usually in a pony or swept up, do to ungodly South Florida heat. Mani/pedi are necessary..Make up, you can forget about!! .Depending on where I’m going maybe some mascara & lipstick.

            • Debbie well after so many summer vacations in south beach i can fully understand where you coming from
              when it gets that hot i can imagine just the idea of make up would make me wanna vomit
              my MIL on teh other hand is in her late 60’s and cant leave the house w/o full make up hair ect

              and truly she looks like peg bundy LOL

          • that only holds for the san fran WOMEN lol

    • Mookies1mom says:

      She doesn’t do her own her that often when they are filming I don’t think. In the clip from Texas she said that Slade had curled her hair. I remember seeing her with hot rollers in her hair (last season?) but she has extensions as well. Maybe that is what she should sell, extensions. But a lot of them seem to have people come in to do their make-up and hair.

  13. Mel says:

    Just looked at the Bravo blogs. I am so tired of the manipulation of the comments. Pegs has all positive comments- as does Jill! Riiggghhhttt. I am guessing they will use this to try to tell us that these gals have to stay because they are loved by so many fans…or maybe they are concerned that these gals are too “sensitive” to be able to handle the truth. It is so misleading. I know, nothing new, which is why this blog is so popular…just super irritating.

    • Mel i dont know why anyone reads the bravo blogs when we have this lovely one
      the bravo one is nothing but a pack of lies disquised as a blog

    • I stopped reading the comments on bravo blogs once I found out they edited them. What’s the point. I also find that I don’t bother to read quite a few of the HWs blogs. Caroline and Jaq (just because I don’t know what they’d add), Kelly (cuz she’s crazy), Cindy (bitter), and any OC HW because I don’t really care.

      • Kerry Okie says:

        They posted a comment by Lynn on Kathy’s blog; she said basically the same thing I tried to post yesterday, but they never, ever post my comments, even when I try to say something nice. Granted, that’s not very often.

  14. “The meeting between Gretchen and Lynne really showed Gretchen’s guilt to me, she was defensive but really had no defense at all, she just kept trying to make Lynne look bad by saying she never listens yet Gretchen wasn’t saying anything. Those computer printout’s that she pulled out of her bag were merely color and fabric samples with some horrible drawings. Lynne asked her where she shops for her leather and Gretchen just kept telling Lynne to listen to her. Gretchen couldn’t answer the question and just ended up storming out of the restaurant. Gretchen acted like a guilty person.”

    that wasnt my take on it at all
    the fact was Lynn wouldnt let gretch get a word in and was kind of dumb in her reasoning

    Lynn turned those guys down when they offered it to her and why should Gretchen say no when they asked her
    its a free market out there and lots of people have clothing lines out there
    does anyone really think Joan Rivers designs that stuff people buy on qvc or whatever its called
    also it looked liek Lynne was trying to be assertive but it just falls flat on her she comes across as a drugged out mess
    she was so hurt by her friend but didnt mind laughing at her friends expense over she should go back to doing what she does best being a gold digger and then throwing another dig saying that gretch got all that money from jeff when he died
    you know all she would have to do i s WATCH the show she is on to know that never happened

    im so glad she is off the show

    • She was probably trying to stir up drama to get back on the show. Sadly, tearing someone else down (and hurting their business) seems to be okay with these woman. I don’t know why they can’t let each other make a little money from this trainwreck of a franchise. In a few years they’ll be all forgotten.

      • Eve from CT says:

        I agree that she was just angry that she was no longer on the show and Gretchen has the handbag platform.
        Gretchen and Lynn have VERY different styles…..so Gretchen wouldn’t take any of Lynn’s customers. Lynn is just jealous of Gretchen I think and naturally finds comfort with Tamra.
        Tamra bashing her ex……she really has no scruples. I can’t wait for her come uppance…you know it will eventually come. Just like the self righteous Vicki. Her true colors are now showing and I bet she regrets passing judgment on everyone else. For the record I totally believe that Tamra influences Vicki…not the other way around.

        • EVE i couldnt agree more on all counts
          I also believe if Icki wasnt so deeply involved in being “christian” she would come out of the closet and admit she has the hots for Trampy

      • HWA i so agree there is enough out there for all of them to turn a lil profit

    • Nancy says:

      I’m not feeling the love for Gretchen. That might be because I can’t listen to her laugh after EVERY sentence she speaks. It makes my hearing go bad. To me Gretchen is plastic. Nothing on her is real and nothing she sells is from her. It’s all just just fluff.

      • plainviewsue says:

        LOL! I agree about that laugh!!!!

      • well look at it this way
        is teher ine from oc that hasnt had plastic inserted in to some part of thier body
        Lynn looked the WORST with that turkey neck leading to those fake looking breast
        Trampy comes in a close second her face really does look like its melting off her head
        Icky well only a paper bag could help
        Gretch is the only one i think is pretty
        I dont think taking care of a man dying from cancer as long as she did would come from someone that is JUST fluff
        i seriously doubt Trampy would have done that for Simon,she stayed witth him till teh money ran out
        amazing his “controlling ” her didnt seem to bother her when the dough was plentifull

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      I agree with you totally. used to like Lynn on OC because she was not influenced by Trampon & Icky.
      Now she looks like an idiot to be be friends with those two & be mad at Gretchen.

    • katlg says:

      I to agree..

    • snarkarella says:

      I’m no Gretchen fan and I think Lynne is generally pretty harmless but she was pretty bazonkers in the clip last night. It’s like she switched from pot to crack! No one knows what happened with the handbags BUT it would have been nice if Lynne had STFU so we could at least hear G try to explain herself. I think there’s room out there for more than one line of bags. I personally don’t like either G or Lynne’s line of bags. Neither are my style. And, most of Lynne’s other stuff is WAY overpriced. A sapphire necklace in sterling setting on SS chain for $3500!!!! Are you F’n kidding?! Yeah it’s a big stone but for that kind of money it should be gold. Sad thing is people will pay it because Lynne’s name is on it. Her bedding line is fug and why these Ho’wives think a anyone would buy bedding with their name on it is beyond me. I do think the dog collars are a cute idea. I can see that doing well. Good luck to her.

    • cdninvegas says:

      DQ: I tend to agree w/u on this one. Prior to the Gretch/Lynne showdown, they devoted an entire scene showing Gretch’s drawings (on t.p.!) and she and her designer laughed at how bad her “drawr-ings” were. As per my earlier comment, Lynne was a mess in that scene and seemed more drugged out than usual (did you catch her trying to slur “yerrr gonna needadrink”???? LMAO even tho’ it was soooo sad.

      • yeah that was pretty sad and funny all at the same time

        if i didnt know better id think she had ,had a stroke

        then i realized its just all that botox making her face not be able to move

    • Candace says:

      Hi Dizziest!

      Lynn should be plenty busy keeping clothes on her daughters and keeping them out of raves.

  15. Janet says:

    Lynne is better to watch than Peggy although Lynne’s daughters made me crazy last season..wonder what they’re doing now? Tamra and Vick are the worst ever…can’t stand them…hope they read this blog cause it’s right on. Regarding Gretchen…I think she has right to make money..she could of been a better friend to Lynne but Lynne does not listen at all…even when Gretchen was explaining about her daughter last season…she just kept talking over her..that’s what she does and it’s irritating…not a big fan

    • Mel says:

      I forgot about Lynn being really mad at Gretchen because of the daughter stuff…
      I felt like Lynn’s anger seemed so out of proportion to the situation- and then she said because she is supporting 4 people. Yikes- so the daughter’s are still in the nest. Those girls were terrible to watch- a lot like ashley and Ryan-
      I would guess that most celebrity endorsed stuff is not totally their own creations. Look at all the teen celebrity stuff. Lynn is spreading herself thin- like JZ- and trying to see what all will stick. (too random)

  16. Nancy says:

    Wouldn’t it be better if we blocked Jill’s twitter tomorrow because that’s when they are taping the reunion.
    It will make her crazy and we will be able to see her go postal right before our eyes. Where’s the fun if we do it on a day that we can’t see her reaction to it? We can get the word out there today to make sure tomorrow will be “OURS” I’m getting excited already 🙂

    • She buys her followers – – – even if all 500 of her real followers drop her, it’ll be a tiny dent in the total.
      So do people just make up fake accounts to give celebrities followers? Thought of the day.

    • When I picked the day, I didn’t know that the taping was tomorrow. I wanted enough time to get the word out and create momentum. It might be a good thing if it doesn’t happen the day of reunion because she might be too distracted to take notice. Also, if for some reason if it doesn’t have a big impact on her following- she could see it as a victory and it will give her reason to gloat.

  17. Deco says:

    OT Andy to replace Regis as Kelly Ripa’s co-host? Seems Comcast doesn’t like having their execs in gossip columns
    Comcast rooting for Andy Cohen to get Regis Philbin’s gig, according to sources – NYPOST.com http://nyp.st/iW91PZ..

  18. Mimisfbay says:

    I found last night’s show unwatchable I was surfing. Give me Cake Boss over that drivel, surfs up. Every time GR said “drawling” it was as if she was running her fingernails down a blackboard. Sorry, just annoying. Did she do something unethical? Not that I can see. If Lynn didn’t move forward with the deal and she did? I am not getting where she is wrong.

    When the steroid use, from the internet no less, led to tumors? Surprise! Yes, he is her child but reckless behavior over the age of 18 leaves me cold. That kid is lazy, annoying and entitled, why not call him out for what he is? You mess with the bull you get the horn…okay, my father was from Montana.

    .I felt bad for Lynn last year because she is slow but she was no fun to watch. Was she really unkind? No. Does she have the ability to do anything about anything? No. Her inability to parent was just pathetic and her anger at her husband for letting them down financially while spending hundreds on a leather jacket was appalling. Don’t miss her and she would add zero to the sinking ship that is OC.

    Vicki’s rotten behavior and then holier than thou attitude sickens me. Her treatment of Donn aside her general demeanor and office harrassment practices leave me cold. VG crying croc tears is anything but interesting.

    • nathania says:

      lynn is a completely different animal, when you say the housewives are ‘calculating’ you mean they are scheming, if you called lynn calculating, you’d be talking about adding two plus two. I think she really leveled that show out and made it less vicious. it’s obvious they were hoping fernanda with her ditziness would have the same kind of energy. they did a better job of replacing lynn with fernanda on OC than they did bethenny with cindy on NY.

    • Caitlin says:

      True confessions: I hadn’t watched OC for a couple of years (the “girls trip” to Florida was the capper!) before the other night, and I was shocked by Vicki’s appearance. Just stunned. She never was a raving beauty, but at one time she really made up for it in other ways and presented a lovely package. She has aged and coarsened in so many ways that I sat back a couple of feet and said “Whoa!!!!” Is it The Change, do you suppose, or does one’s character really end up on one’s face? Either way, the difference was so startling to me that I have to wonder if I am alone here?

  19. IndianaHousewife says:

    I just went to Lynn’s website and have to say that I would use some of her bedding in my house. I do not necessarily have the best taste either so this might not be good news to Lynn Curtain.

    I would also like to note that Lynn Curtain’s website is up, working and was easy to find, unlike trying to find the website for Jill’s girdles and having everything you click on say “Coming Soon”. I do not understand why she would write a whole page about being so excited to launch her product but not have anything available. Does not make sense to me.

    • quincyil says:

      Jill Zarin seeme to be all fluff. She starts things, but fails to follow through.

      • IndianaHousewife says:

        I agree. What a waste of the capitol to start these ventures and then just abandon them. There must be a tax break or something that I am not aware of. I don’t do “big business”.

      • T-REX says:

        Exactly! JZilla likes to get the glory without any of the actual WORK! That’s why her ventures fail. I think her sister wrote a book and enjoined her Mother and Jzilla to the project to get better sales, of course this failed miserably and she has run out of JCC events to speak at, so bawby’s warehouse will be full of the toilet books. Her “squeezemelo”(thanks Error”) line will tank, every major company has climbed onto the Spanxwagon for shapewear, and Jzilla’s brand looks outdated, sloppy and she has been promoting it for months with no actual product on the market. She is always a day late and dollar short when it comes to ideas, she does not have even one ounce of original thought or creativity.

      • NAmerican says:

        I went to Bed, Bath and Beyond on the Upper West Side of NYC today and looked for Zarin bedding, when I asked if they carried her line, they had no idea what I was talking about – they never heard of her… CLASSIC!!!! Soon we’ll be using her girdles as sling shots to toss away her book and her sheets. OH WAIT, Bethenny has a Cleanse so expect Jill to develop on next.

    • Debbie says:

      I followed you to Lynn’s site. It does work better than Jill’s simply because the links work. But I cant believe that people actually buy the crap some of these HW’s sell. By no means can i be called a harbinger of good taste but I do know what I don’t like.. I hate her bags and clutches and cant believe the price tags she puts on them.. You can get any number of “Designer” bags from actual designers for the prices she charges. I know there are bags that run more, much more, have spent more myself for a bag. But $300 for a 7×12 clutch.. $595 for a hobo bag with fringe. No way. You would have no way of knowing how the bag is made, quality of materials, stitching, etc. I would venture to guess if you were dissatisfied you would find it hard to get a refund. Accchhh…I’m just rambling here because I get aggravated with the pretentiousness of these HW’s. I just don’t get their egos nor can I figure out who buys their crap, feeding their egos.?

    • cdninvegas says:

      After reading some of the comments in today’s rants ‘n raves, I went to Lynne’s website and all I can say is WTF??? I actually kinda sorta liked Lynne despite/because of her laiiiiiiiided back doped up demeanor and I was rooting for her biz ‘cuz I’ve been I’ve personally experienced the devastation of the real estate crash, but girlfriend needs a new web designer/host. What a mess! Who posts beauty shots of bedding where the pillows are askew and the beds are not completely made? Not to mention that half of the site is “out-of-order” ie. URL not found. Sad, so very sad. At least Gretchen’s site (not a fan of the girl, but had to check it out) is decent and navigatable (is that a word?) I’m thinking of bidding on her 99 cent items since that’s a better deal than I can get at Savers and the stuff is kinda cute….

  20. Bravofied says:

    Oh Peggy Tanous we are ready for you to go away.

    • quincyil says:

      She endeared herself to Tamra so Tamra wiil fight to keep her on. Bravo likes the link to Jill and they enjoy affecting marriages so I think Peggy will stay for the storyline.

  21. Lynn, I love ya but I really have to disagree with your perception of what Michelle said.

    Remember- this very season Slade and Gretchen both said “SLADE IS NOT PAYING SUPPORT BECAUSE HE CHOSES TO PAY MEDICAL BILLS INSTEAD”. From the begining not only did I say that I didn’t beleive it, but that it would be stupid if he did. He doesn’t get to choose. What Michelle was saying is THAT WAS A LIE. Slade has not paid ANY of Grey’s expenses.

    Her saying that it’s on record of what he has paid in child support is not confirmation that he IS PAYING. All it means that in the history of the order, they have kept a record of what payments have been made and for how much. At one time he probably was paying support (back in his 7 figure days) but he hasn’t in a long time.

    Slade OWES more than 130K- so clearly his is NOT paying his court order support..

    There is no way around the facts. SLADE IS DEAD BEAT and a piece of shit. Gretchen is getting what is coming to her by being with him.

    The fact that Vickie is also with a looser dead beat is just icing on the karma cake.

    • Nancy says:

      Thanks for posting that. I was beginning to think I was the only one seeing through Gretchen & Slade.
      Personally I think they make a “beautiful” couple.

      • Eve from CT says:

        I see it differently. I understood he was paying support but not medical expenses. This is no unusual for parents with children who have catastrophic illness. They don’t pay the uncovered medicals and then declare bankruptcy. Happens more often than not and if he and Michele were together and decided not to pay the uncovered meds no one would probably care. In this situation it makes him look bad but its a good business decision.

        • rabblerouser says:

          He isn’t paying either dispite what lies come out of his mouth. They both said on the show he wasn’t paying support because he was paying expenses. Then when Michelle said he has NEVER paid EXPENSES someone here suggested that maybe it meant he was paying child support because it wasn’t mentioned specifically in the phone call.Gretchen who we all know read the blog used this to try and spin it but in. Reality the court says he is in arrears and ow130k..

          They keep saying they have proof yet have never provided any.

        • dsc60 says:

          he also apparently lost his driver’s license although he stills drives. and why would the judge tell him he has to get a job and prove to the court that he is actively seeking one if he was paying his support? gretchen and slade even talked about it. now they are back peddling.

    • but seriously how can they expect him to pay the sort of money he did when he made 7 figures

      they need to lower it
      you cant get blood from a stone
      no matter how much he is making from bravo it cant be close to what he used to make
      also when all that was said about the medical bills instead of child support correct me if im wrong this wasnt said on the actual series but on something else they were both on maybe it was wwhl
      and they said that was what they were tryine to get happen not ,that ,this is what they were actually doing

      am i right about this cause after a bit it all s=becomes a blur

      • I’m pretty sure they said it in the talking heads. I think it might have been the episode where Slade was sitting down with a stack of paper work.

        Obviously, when income changes people can go to he courts and ask for a modification of support- be it an increase or a decrease.

        Slade’s problem is that he continues to defy the Judges order that he actively find regular work, how can the courts be expected set an amount when there is no projected income? And what money he does make he hides under Gretchen’s name.

        Asking for a decrease in CS does not make someone a dead beat, not paying the ordered support, hiding and lying about income and taking measures to make it difficult to attach a judgment for garnishment and most importantly an unwillingness to find stead and regular work does. That’s why Slade is a deadbeat…..and a POS

  22. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    I thought it was hysterical when on reunion part du’ all the women were saying how great Vicki’s new beau was & that he is living with Eddie. Being such great friends do you think Vicki told Tamra about Brooks being a deadbeat dad?

    • Nancy says:

      I don’t think Vicki knew about it and I don’t care. I actually feel good about it.
      I’m sure Don is happier already being free of her.

      • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

        How could she not know when she wrote that letter for him Nancy?
        I am sure Donn will find someone else. Too bad Jeana already has a boyfriend.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          IMO – Vicki knew the “story” Brooks wanted her to know. Shame on her for not searching out the truth.

        • Nancy says:

          You are right. Sorry about that. I might have been thinking about his DUI?
          By the way, how are you doing? How is your pain and how are you dealing
          with it. I think about you a lot and hope this finds you well. 🙂

          • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

            Thank you Nancy~it hurts to type so I am posting in small doses. lol
            You are very sweet to ask. I am so much better than I was & very grateful to all of you. 😉

      • T-REX says:

        Nancy, I think Vicki knew “some” of her new Beau’s past, but as we have come to find out, he is the perfect con-man. Those types give you a glimpse of their problems, you know to seem like a “bad-boy”, which attracts needy people like Vicki. But Vicki didn’t know the Extent of those problems, that is why she is stating that their relationship won’t survive. I am sure there are far more skeletons in that con-man closet and more and more will probably be revealed.

        • Nancy says:

          I’m sure you are right. Why did Vicki have so many issues with Tamera (when they took that trip to Mexico) when she (Tamera) was lying down on the bar doing “shots” off her body when Vicki obviously was doing the same thing in her hotel room with this new guy?

      • cdnfillie58 says:

        I think Vickie has known about the new beau..she didn’t jump on Tamra’s “dead beat” bandwagon regarding Slade during the reunion like she has before…and I caught that look of pure “holy shitballs” when Andy teased about having him on the show…..I believe that for a split second she thought the proverbial “crap” was about to hit the fan

  23. Powell says:

    Love you Lynn but I have to disagree w/you on one thing. Totally true that the company came to Gretchen after they did Lynne, but why in the world should Gretchen have passed on the opportunity? If it wasn’t her then it would have been someone else in OC. There are so many companies that produce handbags. So what if it’s Gretchen. Lynne believes she puts out a better product, fantastic. Alls fair in love and retail. She just needs to show it and out sell Gretchen. That should give Lynne even more motivation w/ putting out superb products. If since they taped that show multiple people have started handbag lines, some could be in the OC. If Lynne can’t stand the competition, she’s in the wrong business.

  24. T-REX says:

    Did anyone else notice that Jzilla was promoting on tweeter that she was in her squeezemelo mobile for the Premiere. Again channeling yet another Bethenny idea. First off you lunatic, you don’t even have a product line yet, it’s just imaginary until something is actually on the market, and you didn’t have the ingeniuty to have the Logo placed on the SUV/Limo(whatever it was), like B has done with her car, bus and any other item she can cover to sell her product because B understands marketing and branding. Jzilla unforunately understands having to tweet every second of every day of your pitiful life, I mean really, going for wee-wee pads(not sure if these are for her dog or Bawby) is not some great event.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      lol Jill had Bawby rent a limo to pull up in front of the theatre in hoping the photogs would take her picture. lol that Bowby got reprimanded for eating on the rental furniture. And as always, Jill neglects to include the rest of the cast being invited to the premiere – and loved that Simon gave a tweet to who was there!

      • Debbie says:

        I missed the info on a premier..What premier are they going to , why is Jill mad about Bawby’s seat, is the whole HW cast there?

    • cabbie413 says:

      the last part of this post really made me laugh lol

    • cdninvegas says:

      Hope I’m not too late with this comment – caught it on a re-run – but in this season’s first epi, when Jill&Bawby were getting out of the car at the wedding, she kept complaining about her support garments not being pretty when they showed (paraphrasing). She kept saying “don’t you agree Bawby?” and he grunted his replies. Sounds like she was attempting a foreshadow of her squeezie line……..

    • Caitlin says:

      All I could think was “Girdle Mobile.” Now, ain’t that a sexy thought?

  25. cdnfillie58 says:

    Has Vickie ever owned up to those pics of her, specially the one leaning over the bar?

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      She doesn’t care who she hurts & should not be allowed to film anymore. JZ is the most skin crawling snake I have ever seen. She’s lucky Ramona didn’t punch her. One of these days hopefully someone will make her see the light…

    • quincyil says:

      Then she should file charges. I don’t believe that Jill, Darren, or his boyfriend Trevo would have kept that a secret for over a week.

      • If Mario shoved her, it would have been in the original story that was leaked to E online. I don’t believe Jill’s latest version of the story.

      • T-REX says:

        Exactly, Jzilla is not one that would have kept quiet had she been assaulted in any way. She wouldhave had Mario charged with assault. I mean come on, she left a freakin laptop on a plane and you saw the billion tweets about that when it happened. That scenario would have played out this way, “BAWBY OW HE ASSAULTED ME, CALL THE POLICE AND I WILL TWEET THE MEDIA THAT I HAVE BEEN ASSAULTED” Can you see that one @911>Need a Cop now, been assaulted. (Five seconds later) @911>Where are you, this is Jzilla I have been assaulted. (five seconds later) @911-Hey this is Jzilla don’t you know who I am, need a Cop been assaulted. She would not have waited until the press was up and moving the next day to plant this outright lie. I mean come on the woman who tweets about her earwax and wee wee pads is not going to pass up that kind of press!

        • Nancy says:

          You have no idea how much you have made my day. I just hope I can get “her” voice out of my head.

          • quincyil says:

            Jill calls the police at the drop of a hat. Her lawyers are on speed dial. She threatens people all of the time. There is no way that he pushed her and she didn’t collapse on the ground and call the paramedics and her lawyers. This is another fabrications by her PR Dept. I hope Ramona does something about this “rumor.”

            • T-REX says:

              I would love if Andy would grow “a pair” and point this out on their Reunion show!

            • Nancy says:

              Isn’t this slander though? If I was Ramona I’d get a lawyer to stop this bull ^&$@!

              • quincyil says:

                I don’t know. Slander is spoken, but if you tell the press and it’s printed is that libel? Hmmmm.

                There had to be people there other than Jill and her crew.

                Alex McCord said it was not true and I believe her. Alex is honest to the bone.

                • Nancy says:

                  I never thought for a second that JIll was telling the truth.
                  I’m not sure it’s in her DNA.

                  • MoJen says:

                    I hope Mario was calling Jill out for her “it’s well known in my circle that Mario cheats.” Stupid bitch.

                • There is NO way I believe this to be true. I think Jill and her team were unhappy that the story didn’t pick up and was pretty much dismissed, especially when the ‘witness’ was revealed to be Darren’s boyfriend.
                  So now a week later, she has decided to amp it up. As some users surmised with hilarity it would have looked something like this

                  • cdninvegas says:

                    OMG!!!!! Thank you RR for that bust-a-gut video. It’s massively hilarious on it’s own, but watched in the context of the Jill vs Mario comments – well, I can barely type this ‘cuz I’m still busting a gut……peeps, you really need to watch the video………

                  • Caitlin says:

                    Interesting what Jill accuses Mario of when she herself threatened via Twitter to pour something on the producer who didn’t want Bawby to eat/drink on his sofas. I said I never would, but I tweeted her back to say that had she did so, the producer could charge HER with assault. No question that police would have been called had Mario done anything intentional to THAT WOMAN. So childish……

    • funny how no one saw it
      and all her “friends” that witnessed the aurgument didnt say he pushed her

      personaly he could have taken an ax to her head and i would still say he was right and she was wrong
      headless but wrong


  26. Stella says:

    Every time a commercial for Rocco’s Dinner Party comes on, I go off to my mother about why in the world anyone would want to give him a show. Last night when another commercial came on I was just about to say something but before I said anything my mom put her finger to her lips in a shhh motion. I sat there quietly and after a while I asked her what she was listening for and she said, “I just didn’t want to hear anything about Rocco.” LOL! I guess I better dial it back a bit.

    • Nancy says:

      I hear you Stella. He (Rocco) sort of gives me the creep’s. I think it was Q that said “He’s fine” if you know what I mean.

      • quincyil says:

        He was ok in that show and it’s a hit according to the news organizations. We’ll see. He was ok on WWHL too.

        • Nancy says:

          Wasn’t it you that made that remark (meaning he’s good looking) when he was on WWHL?
          It’s ok Q we all flirt from time to time. 🙂

          • quincyil says:

            Yes, he is good looking. He was funny too. I don’t know his from the older shows. I read that he is a NYC chef. I did not think he knew the real housewives of NY when he complimented Luann.

            Kelly Bensimon is going to be on that show. Let’s see how he handles her.

        • Q i liked him TILL i saw him on wwhl
          anyone that sides with LuMann over Alex isnt thinking with the right head if you know what i mean LOL

  27. WindyCityWondering says:

    Bravo’s blogs are messed up.
    I went to RHNY and it said I have comments waiting for the moderator! They have to be from last episode because I didn’t attempt to post to the latest snoozefest! On RHNJ – I tried to post, didn’t see any error message and not in the que for moderation – so shooting blanks there.
    This makes me wonder if Bravo counts the hits and attempts to post on their blogs – as we all know they don’t care what the viewer has to say… so in JIll’s infamous words, “Hey Bravo, we are done!”

    • BarbinGa says:

      Ya know, I hope people quit trying altogether. So many say they are never published (I am one), or it’s only positive posts so now instead of hundreds in past seasons they’re down to 25 or so each. Might as well forget about it. Then maybe they’ll step up to the plate and care what people have to say.

  28. Trudie says:

    If Lynn turned down the guys with the handbag line, why is it such a big deal that Gretchen took the deal? Is no one allowed to have another handbag line? And, it doesn’t bother me that Gretchen just “slapped” her name on it. This, my friends, is how a lot of merchandise comes into being.

    • vilzvet says:

      I also wonder why that scene was even filmed if Lynne had already been given the boot?

  29. IndianaHousewife says:

    I was just checking out Reality Tea and it appears that Taylor likes to let her pink parts hand out of a bikini also. When did that become the thing to do? I am really feeling old these days. I remember when things were covered up and kept quiet. Days when a bra was considered a necessity not an accessory.

    • Nancy says:

      Thats what drugs do to people. Cover them up “Taylor”. we’re not interest either.

    • Stella says:

      LOL. Perhaps I shouldn’t admit this but I have a black and white tank top on today and specifically wore my red bra for a splash of color. I’m 29 but I definitely would never have done this 3-5 years ago. Oh the times. 🙂

      • IndianaHousewife says:

        Stella, to be really really honest I would probably do the same at 29. However I am now 41 and things don’t look like they used to so I tend to “put it away” so to speak. I guess it does not bother me so much for the 20 to 30 year olds as this a great time to strut your stuff but most of the housewives are closer to the 40 year old age group and should not be strutting so much, in my opinion. My oldest daughter is 21 and I would feel like I was trying to compete with her if I went out with her wearing what a lot of the housewives wear. No offense intended to anyone, just my feelings. 🙂

  30. Amy Matheson says:

    Caroline never got a real job at that radio station. Do they think we are stupid?

    Take a look at the comments section of this fb event posted by the radio station. They were probably paid by bravo to let her film there.

    Apparently this was the third (probably final?) edition of her “special series.” A talk show? Yeah, Carolslime and Bravo – I don’t think so: https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150089786644594 (these are Carolinebacker GOLD)

    • This reminds me of NeNe’s “job” at the TV station in Atlanta.

      • Amy Matheson says:

        Exactly – look what part of the second comment from the radio station says:

        “viewers of reality shows should not take those shows too seriously…it’s just entertainment.”

        Even they know Caroline being there and pretending to work there is total BS.

    • nathania says:

      wow, those comments are brutal…ouch. the radio is trying to defend her but it is fighting a losing battle.

      I think if they wanted to interview her that would have been a better idea but to foist her on the public as someone worthy of giving advice is not realistic and clearly the public resents it.

    • Sparkles says:

      Classic. I love the comments!
      I am so sick of Caroline and her know-it-all attitude. And how many times does she need to say “Guess what?” when she is dispensing her advice?

  31. Nancy says:

    Why do we keep watching this crap?

    • T-REX says:

      I am not watching, just reading the blogs this year for all of them.

      • Melissa says:

        That’s a great idea, the blogs are always more interesting that the actual shows anyway.

    • Amy Matheson says:

      Watching this crap is an excuse to hang out here. But soon the recaps will preclude our actually having to sit through an hour of engineered situations where people who believe $10-20K per episode is market rate for their soul.

      • Debbie says:

        I haven’t watched more than 30 minutes of episodes this entire season.. I read this blog, the comments and that satisfies my curiosity.. it took some will power but I now have 10pm EST free. I may start watching the Designers and will watch Work of Art if it returns. It is far less stressful to participate here rather than watching the shows which causes my blood to boil. I think I watched as long as I did because I didn’t want to be cut off from the community here. I’m happy to report that I know I’m not alone, that others have turned off Bravo and remain here and the blog continues to grow.

  32. Nancy says:

    I just sat through an episode of The Millionaire Matchmaker (for the first, and last) time.
    Who is this “lady”? She’s gross. Seriously how did she get her own show?
    She should be on WWHL and every time Patty says “penis” we’ll all take a drink.
    No wonder she is friends with Shrill. Now THAT’S a million dollar match.

    • Melissa says:

      Patty’s friends with Jill? …Not surprising though.

      • yes that is who she is on the phone with on that infamous vid clip where che refers to bethenny as a bitch amongst other less flattering words

        and wig is sitting there with her bad mouthing bethenny
        i havent watched that skanks show ever since

    • Debbie says:

      I HATE PATTY STANGER. I cannot stomach her and don’t understand how her show succeeds. I think she is vile, despicable and she sets feminism back 100 years. Marry for money not love, flaunt physical attributes over intellect. I can go on and on but I would only sputter and spew nonsense.

  33. boston02127 says:

    hi…..that’s all I got.

  34. Melissa says:

    I don’t understand why Lynn was upset and Gretchen didn’t look guilty to me, she looked confused just as I was while trying to figure out what exactly was triggering Lynn.
    Lynn believes her bags are a one of a kind, not cheaply made but quality goods, thus turning down the deal. Why does she care if anyone else decides to do it and feels backstabbed by Gretch. Gretchen’s out there too, trying to make the most out of her 15minutes, why should she go through Lynn for something Lynn’s not interested in doing? That’s is simply bizarre.
    I think she’s either still holding a grudge about Gretchen criticizing her parenting skills, (though she should know, the entire country feels that way, not just Gretchen) Or she’s being influenced by her friend the wicked witch of OC.
    Vicki and Tamra both make me sick just looking at them, I’m no longer watching the show if they’re coming back,

  35. Nancy says:

    Re: The Bravo summer commercial…Both Jill and Bethenny are on it so did they have to meet up and see each other that day? You would think Jill would have tweeted “We made up and every things fine. I knew it was Ramona fault. Bethenny told me that. Oh ya and Bethenny asked me to be Bryn’s God mother and I said yes.
    Baawwbbyy and I are going to support Bethenny (AGAIN) this summer so we’re off to MY house at the Hamptons.
    But before that Bethenny asked me to be a guest on her show and even help her to produce it. I knew she couldn’t stay mad forever. 🙂

  36. boston02127 says:

    OMG Jill needs a life. Her tweet~~~Just got my tan on @beachbumtanning on 86th then picked up wee wee pads for @realgingerzarin and some pupperoni treats @petco!

    What’s next? Just went poo poo and read the newspaper while on the throne. After that I cut my toe nails and blew my nose.

    Jill……get a life.

    • Nancy says:

      Really! Lord have mercy. Get a life!

    • Debbie says:

      HI Boston!
      Jill doesn’t need to alert us to her nose blowing… Ginger licks her snot so she never blows her nose. ( i just grossed myself out typing that ..ewww)

      • Nancy says:

        I almost threw up.

        • FLG says:

          Wee wee pads? That’s like supplying a camel with a litter box. Poor Ginger needs a cork and some cartons of Depends. Jillzy’s apartment needs to be fully tiled, sealed and with a bucket of bleach on hand at all times. A disposable mop would be a good idea, too!

          • FLG says:

            Jillzy might want to lay off of the pepperoni treats and give that poor pup some rice and yogurt.

          • boston02127 says:

            Or she could get off her ass & out of her smelly bed and walk the dog!

            • FLG says:

              That would require the intervention of Glenda the Good Witch. I’m sure Glenda would have the good taste to turn on her heels and immediately leave the scene, like Countess Squash Blossom High Horse did to Alex.

    • T-Rex says:

      Boston, this is exactly why I called BS on the whole Jzilla being assaulted by Mario at a party. If that actually happened she would have tweeted that at the time it happened! She is such a lying loser! Although I did mention upthread that I wondered if the WeeWee pads were for her dog or Bawby! HA! Just had to say that one again!

    • Kerry Okie says:

      Thanks Boston, that was the best laugh I’ve had all day; no, make that all week.

  37. boston02127 says:

    Need a power nap–BBL. 🙂

  38. boston02127 says:

    Nancy– For some reason I can’t answer you up there. Yes, my mom did know him and liked him and his family. We’ll be together 2 yrs in Sept. He’s a good guy, he’s caring & makes me laugh and his family is really nice too.

  39. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s tweet to Jill~~~~ Love u @jillzarin for being so sweet to Teddy and I. Run, starbucks, and fun. We love uuuu jill.

    Lol, poor dumb, dumb Kelly. One wrong move with Jill and she’s toast. (can’t wait)

    • MicheleF. says:

      Yes, poor dumb, dumb Kelly! Have you noticed that the brunette team in particular have a problem with the proper use of “I” and “me.” ? Isn’t English their first language?

  40. Melissa says:

    Man, those pictures of Vicki with her ass tatted up is seriously disgusting, how vile is she? Just threw up in my mouth, I feel sorry for the tattoo guy.. blech. How Donn ever tolerated her disgusting butt is a mystery and she has some nerve to divorce him….how sick. Imagine Vicki being your insurance agent,….TRASHY/EMBARASSING!

  41. Debbie says:

    OT I just read another article on E! online about Jill’s claim that Mario berated her for her treatment of Ramona and shoved her as well.\\Comment 19 was the best:
    Bobby Zari Tue, Jun 21, 2011, 1:45 PM

    I was at the event too and don’t believe for on second that Jill was shoved. She should have had her mouth washed out with soap though, her language is like a truck driver. She dropped “F” bombs and called Mario some pretty vile things. I was so embarrassed for her, she needs to be muzzled like a dog.

    Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/hwood_party_girl/b248435_real_housewife_jill_zarin_ramona.html#ixzz1PwzOrfSf

    • AZ Girl says:

      I can’t believe Jill would expect us to believe that if she was shoved by Mario the police would get involved. She is nuts and it is sad that Jill cannot distinguish between her lies and the truth anymore.

    • MicheleF. says:

      My guess is that she made the shoving part up as an excuse to go crazy on Ramona while they film the reunion tomorrow. She wanted an excuse to cover the real fact about why she is so horrible to Ramona, which is because she is so jealous of her. Anyway, she is making a big fuss over nothing. On people.com, there is an article and she says she had to bring a bodyguard with her to protect her (from Mario?). I guess Bobby can’t (or won’t) protect her.

  42. cdninvegas says:

    Hope someone out there can help with a puzzle. Ryan’s Dad looks sooooo familiar. Have we seen him somewhere before, on this show or another one. It has been driving me crazy all day……

  43. AZ Girl says:

    Hey Jill! Are you going to wear that ugly blue dress during the reunion filming? Borrow some of LuMann’ jewelry and you should look smashing. One of LuMann BIG pieces. Bigger the better. Make sure you cross your legs properly so we can all see your girdle.

  44. smompy says:

    Debbie, I’m with you on Patti Stanger. I think I must hate her even more than JZ or Lulu or Tamra because as bad as those three are, I can sit through a scene they’re in…even when they’re being horrible toward others. With Patti, though, just hearing her speak for more than a minute or so makes me angry & disgusted, and I’m always compelled to change the channel or turn off the TV. It’s weird, my level of hatred for that woman.

    Two random questions:

    Would Slade’s child support payments (or anyone else’s) be on the public record in any way? I was assuming that he probbaly made small partial payments whenever he could afford it (or when he fel like it, more probably) because what he said about not being in jail kinda rings true to me. I mean, if he paid NOTHING, wouldn’t he have been jailed by now? Vicki’s new BF went to jail over that, didn’t he? BTE, I am NOT defending Slade Slimey in any way. I’d actually be happy if he did get sent to jail, but it seems to me if that possibility was actually looming over his head, he wouldn’t likely tempt fate and shout about NOT being in jail precisely because he does pay. And on naional television yet. I can’t imagine he’s that stupid. Then again…

    Last question – I see this expression used all over the interwebs: “He got pwned!” I am way too old to know these things…I remember Woodstock…so for you youngsters, what exactly does that mean?

    Sorry for what I assume will be a ton of tyopies….I literally cannot see what I’m typing now due to the screen being way off center today. ???

    • LavaLady says:

      I think it’s slang for “He got owned” Meaning “he” was taken advantage of in some way?????

      • Not so much taken advantage of, it’s more like someone got what was coming to them or got bested by someone else. For example when Tamra and Slade were slinging shit at each other- and Slade said she ‘gets by from sucking off everyone’ and she got up and stormed away. She got pwned.

    • Slade WAS arrested for non-payment and would should be in jail but for the fact that he was bonded out. Not to mention that in California there is critical overcrowding, as I mentioned before Lindsey Lohan is allowed under ‘house arrest’ for a probation violation stemming from a felony crime.

      The supreme court just ruled that we need to release 46,000 non violent offenders due to over crowding.

      I think in one of the last court proceedings against Slade the Judge got mad at all the antics and tossed people out for it was recorded at that time he owed more than 80k. He now owes more than 130k.

      Gretchen and Slade keep going back and forth about what he was ordered to pay at the height of his ‘career’. They say $3500 per month and sometimes it’s $4000- and now they are saying he can’t afford it. But never in their claims have they said ‘Slade pays XXX amount per month-every month’.
      The seem to think that Slade should be able to give whatever- whenever -at his discretion because he doesn’t have a steady or reliable income.

      Slade’s inflated ego and LAZINESS coupled with his enabler girlfriend think that anything other than curling Gretchen’s hair or carrying her purses are beneath him.

    • Melissa says:

      “pwned” I think is just a weird way of spelling “owned”,
      owned I know, means someone completely dominated you usually in an arguement, like they totally kicked your @ss.

  45. Nancy says:

    Is anyone watching season 1 of RHONY right now? It’s on channel 4 in LA.
    Jill was vile right out of the gate. And yes once again she told Bobby that he will be “feeling something good later”
    because he bought her diamond earrings for her b-day. Why any of us didn’t see right through her from day 1 baffles me.

    • cabbie413 says:

      I think a few people did, but for the most part, Jill was “tempered” by Bethenny and her humor. I started watching during the Scary Island season, and got caught up on season 2 during their re-runs. I have only seen one or two episodes of the very first season of #rhony

    • MoJen says:

      They are showing that episode in KC, too, I just watched! She is such a rude, vile beast!!

    • California35 says:

      Hi Nancy,
      Will the 1S of NY be on every day or is this just today? I will check out my listings when I get home. I really want to watch that season, I was even thinking of buying it but I have not found it (unless I buy it on line for like $50). Any wyas, I hope it comes on that channel every day so i can watch it for free 🙂

      • sue says:

        You might want to ceck with your library, sometimes they have those types of dvd’s and the great part about it is that they are so cheap to rent. I rented every season of “Sex and the City” 2yrs ago when we had a horrible snow storm and I had a very enjoyable weekend,stranded inside on 2 very cold days…And I think Ispent around $15.00 bucks and I kept them for 2 wks…Just a suggestion!

      • dsc60 says:

        here in NJ the housewives are on NBC at 2 pm. they run all of them at different times and now they are running NY season 1. they will more than likely air the entire season before they switch to another.

    • California35 says:

      Thank you guys…I just found the episodes and will record them 🙂 I’m so excited thank you!!

  46. Nancy says:

    P.S. Mario is hot!!

  47. Nancy says:

    It’s weird to see LuMan with The Count. I think the spark was already over way back when.
    Very cold marriage.

  48. Nancy says:

    One more post and then out the door to the rink.

    Bethenny is having a drink with one of her many ex’s and he is now marriage with a child and they are talking about their lives…Then Bethenny’s talking head came on and she said “I don’t know what my future hold’s but I want to be marriage and I want children and I only have a few years.”

    I swear it brought tears to my eyes. It was also strange because at that moment I knew more about her future than she did.

  49. Mookies1mom says:

    Completely off topic but I need some advice. Mookie’s dad went on a hike without me and came home telling me that he slipped and fell on some muddy rocks. I’ve done the same but he was walking and already in pain by the time he got home. This took place about a 15 minute drive from our home. (I don’t know if he stayed and took photos or if he had taken them after he fell.) He’s sleeping right now. He didn’t want tylenol or anything. No complaints about shooting pains or anything like that just generalized pain. Both of us have had previous problems with our backs. He can walk but it’s painful for him. I asked him if he wanted to go to the doctor but he said no because “we don’t have insurance”. I’m thinking that when he wakes up that if he is in a lot of pain screw the money and take him to the hospital. (He is stubborn about things like this but then again so am I. I had to trick him one time in order to get him to have stitches that he really needed.) Back injuries are so difficult to deal with. What do you all think I should do? I’m leaning towards taking him to the hospital if he’s still hurting as bad as he was before his nap.

    • Try applying a combination of heat then ice to the sore area first. Sometimes it can relieve the pain and help heal the injury if it’s muscular. If it doesn’t help after a few hours, then you could call a nurse hotline for free info and guidance. They will let you know if he should see a doctor.

      • Mookies1mom says:

        Well, naturally when I asked him if he wanted ice or a heating pad he said no. We live in a very small borough and I’ve called the hospital before for something that was going on with me. They aren’t able to say much, which I understand. Last time I called they pretty much just said that either I could come in or not, my choice. Mine was for something totally different. I went to webmd but it just says to see a doctor because it was a trauma, the fall, that is causing the pain. Is there something I should be on the look out for?

        • FLG says:

          Ask him if he heard any unusual noises coming from inside his body when he fell. When I broke my back, I HEARD it. It was a sound that I had never heard before, but I still remember the sound to this day.

          • FLG says:

            I fractured two vertebrae and blew a disc.

            • Mookies1mom says:

              WOW! I can’t even begin to imagine how painful that was! I’ve had bone spurs, constant muscle spasms and multiple degenerative disks since my early twenties. Somehow, I don’t think that would compare.

              Shadowsnomore, he is 44 years old. He was definitely walking a little funny but did not have any of the symptoms you described. In fact he ate something before he went to sleep. I’m such he will be pretty stiff when he wakes up though. If he shows any of the symptoms you are describing I’ll take him to the hospital whether he likes it or not. And he knows that I am far more stubborn than he is!

          • Mookies1mom says:

            I would imagine that you would remember that noise! I remember the sound I heard when I broke my hand. It’s a horrible sound! He didn’t say that he heard any noise. I actually think he was more po’d that he dropped our camera. He’s just so damn stubborn about going to the doctor. Other than hearing the break did you have any indication that it was something so serious?

            • FLG says:

              It hurt like hell to breathe. I knew I had done something serious. The numbness and loss of muscle control in my legs took awhile to develop. The fractures didn’t show up on the x rays (they didn’t x ray the part where the damage actually was….I was told I was fine initially. When they finally ordered a complete MRI series that’s when they figured out how badly I was messed up. I kept telling my primary MD that something was wrong, but he blew me off and thought it was “in my head”. The paralysis started within about a week. My right leg began to “drag” and things started going further downhill from there. Regarding his legs, look for toes or the foot or feet to involuntarily point up or down. One is called clonus the other is babinski. I’m not sure about the spelling anymore, but you can find it on the internet. Shadowsnomore is very correct in their description as well. My surgery was delayed due to insurance arguments, but I don’t think my outcome would have been significantly different w/o the delay. My disk blew onto my spinal cord and the cord was damaged. That was irreversible, even if I had been taken directly to the hospital and properly diagnosed. Mine was a sporting accident and I waited until the next morning to see the doctor. I got one of the top, if not the top neurosurgeon in the country. I have difficulty, but I am still walking. My accident was over fifteen yrs. ago. I know I am approaching the end of the benefit of the surgery, but I have been blessed to continue walking for this long. All of the other neurosurgeons I saw told me to just buy a wheelchair back then. Then I got to the right guy and he gave me my miracle.

              • Mookies1mom says:

                That’s a lot of stuff to go through. I’m glad you had a good outcome in the end. I have a question but if you don’t want to answer I completely understand. All you have to do is say so and I won’t take offense. Promise! So here goes. Why would there be and end in the benefit of the surgery you received?

                • Mookies1mom says:

                  an not and. GRRR! I can’t type today!

                • FLG says:

                  In a word….aging. I’m getting older, the chronic pain is increasing and my mobility is decreasing.

                  • FLG says:

                    scar tissue is continuing to form around the damaged area of my spinal cord and due to the fusions, it is too dangerous to try to access the damaged area. I also have degenerative disc disease and what I really need is a spine transplant…LOL If they ever come up with that one, I’m the perfect candidate.

                    • Mookies1mom says:

                      I have a number of degenerative disks as well. Starting up around C3 or C4 if I remember correctly. We can go on the spine transplant waiting list together. But you first, since you are having mobility issues now. It’s something for me to look forward to. 😉

                    • FLG says:

                      The team of physicians that performed my surgery consulted on Christopher Reeve. His cord was severed. Mine wasn’t. He and I had our accidents around the same time. If anyone is ever interested in making donations, the Christopher Reeve organization is a good one. The Miami Project to Cure Paralysis is who helped me. http://www.miamiproject.miami.edu/

                  • Mookies1mom says:

                    I see. I always see signs that say “Getting old isn’t for wimps”. I would have to agree. Chronic pain is a bitch to deal with. I’ve had chronic daily headaches for so long now that I can’t remember being pain free. Instead of a huge blowout migraine (which still happens, just not as often) for me it’s like having a mini-migraine everyday.

                    Mookie’s dad is up. I got some grilling to do! BBL

                    • FLG says:

                      Let me know how he is doing. I hope at worst he’ll just be a little sore and recover rapidly. I hope even more he’ll be feeling great by now.

          • Kerry Okie says:

            The same thing happened to me when I tripped over one of my dogs and broke my ankle a few years ago. I thought at the time the sound was the chair I was grabbing onto cracking, only to realize later the chair was in tack. I cringe every time I think of it, but I’ll never forget the sound. I cannot imagine breaking my back though, OMG!

            • FLG says:

              Yeah, I don’t like it when my body makes noises it’s not supposed to….. 8)

              • Mookies1mom says:

                Most definitely! I was too drunk to register that the noise I heard was not a good sign. Then I woke up the next morning and besides a hangover I got to have my hand set.

              • FLG says:

                My accident was a in-line skating accident. I was wearing all of my protective gear. If any of you roller blade, please be extraordinarily careful. I had racing bearings installed in my skates. I was still a young adult when this happened. Please skate and ski carefully. As with any accident, your life can change in an instant.

                • Mookies1mom says:

                  Mookie’s dad seems to be ok. A little grumpy but that’s normal before he’s had his dinner. Low blood sugar= cranky hubby. I think he’s just going to be a little sore. He doesn’t have any of the signs you all were talking about but I’m keeping an eye on him for the next couple of days.

                  When I worked in mental health we had a lady that fell backwards in her chair and hit her head. Before her injury she was an ex. sec. earning over six figures. Afterwards she came to our facility but had to be transferred to a different place because we were not capable of handling her. Sometimes something so simple can alter the rest of your life.

        • If he starts having tingly feelings,numbness, or unusual difficulty walking. Also, any vomiting or if he starts having abdominal pain. Then he should get to the ER asap! Depending on his age, most falls usually cause muscle strain and bruising. But, if he is older then there is more to worry about. If he has nausea he could have broken a a bone. Numbness or tingling is a possible sign of a compressed or ruptured disk. If you really feel he is just not acting right then follow your gut and go to the doctor. Better safe then sorry.

          • Mookies1mom says:

            I responded to your reply above in a message to you and FLG. But you are right better safe than sorry.

      • Just ice for the first few days, and then you can alternate with heat / ice. You don’t want to increase the swelling.

        • Mookies1mom says:

          Good to know! Thank you!

          • Kerry Okie says:

            Make him take the Tylenol; it helps with inflammation, if I recall correctly.

            • Mookies1mom says:

              OK. Just got through throughly grilling Mookie’s dad and shoving some aleve down his throat. I think he’s just sore and a little embarrassed. I know he’s definitely not nauseous because he asked what was for dinner. I think he is going to be ok but I will keep an eye on him. Thanks to everyone for the advice! At least if something starts to go wrong I know what to look for!

              • FLG says:

                Whew, embarrassed and sore….that can have a quick recovery! I’m happy for him and for you! And Mookie, too!

                • Mookies1mom says:

                  Thanks FLG! Sometimes the ego is harder to repair. Thankfully, Mookie’s dad has a healthy one. 😉 He’ll be fine on all fronts in a couple of days I’m sure.

        • Austin says:

          As someone who has endured numerous back injuries and spinal fusion surgery, let me echo the ice-only advice. Ice and anti-inflammatories. Do not apply heat at this stage of the injury.

          My husband has had his knee replaced, so we’ve both had major orthopedic surgery (both successful surgeries). I can honestly say that we both experienced that you almost cannot over-ice.

          I hope he is better in the morning.

  50. NMhousewife says:

    Regarding last night’s lost footage…I agree with (our) Lynn about not seeing any difference or nicer sides to Tamra or Vicki. Still can’t stand them and don’t want to watch them anymore. Alexis is still Alexis. I don’t mind if she stays on the show because she is not really mean spirited, just not too smart. Lynn should come back too because both of these gals are very amusing to watch. Peggy can go, she so obviously sucked up to the mean girls and knew exactly what team she wanted to be on at the beginning of the season.

    Regarding Gretchen and Lynn, I don’t know the ins and outs of a handbag line, but I din’t get the sense that Gretchen had stolen anything from Lynn or even done anything underhanded. Would I buy one of her bags or think she is a bona fide designer? No way. I see Gretchen just trying to make money. I was more disappointed in Lynn’s behavior at the restaurant. She kept bombardng Gretchen with questions and accusations but not really hearing or listening to anything. She was gunning for a fight, probably even prodded by Tamra. Of course Gretchen didn’t seem to know much about how a handbag line is created, but I really didn’t get the impression she had done Lynn dirty. I agree with someone above as a case of sour grapes.

    Maybe I am not sympathetic enough but I dont’ feel for Tamra and Ryan during his medical scenes. Maybe if these were tumors he had no control over, but to have willingly taken steriods that he bought black market, I feel he deserves to have to go through surgery to remove the cysts and he’s lucky it didn’t cause more of a problem. I was surprised for a nonsecond when Tamra started saying that the kids are a reflection of the parents, thinking she was going to own up to some of her bad parenting with Ryan, but then she turned it around and said the ex should be feeling a lot of guilt for the situation. Typical Tamra, even though the ex said that he had many times mentioned to Ryan about the consequences of taking steroids and Ryan chose to ignore that.

    that is about all I recall from this episode. I really wish they would not pick this show up again.

    • Melissa says:

      ITA, with all that you said. Lynn was being so angry for no reason it was weird. If she wanted the oppurtunity, she should’ve grabbed it, if she didn’t want it, it shouldn’t matter if Gretchen took it or not. She acted insecure and fishing for problems, instigating…alot like Tamra. I think she should pick better friends she seems so easily influenced. Granted if Lynn’s thing was cuffs exclusively and Gretchen went out and started on cuffs as well, I would see her point but she’s onto bags, beddings, petstuff, necklace, cuffs etc and ALL are off limits? How selfish are you, not to mention a total fruitcake.

      I also didn’t feel an ounce of sadness for Tamra’s creepy son either.
      “- I was surprised for a nonsecond when Tamra started saying that the kids are a reflection of the parents, thinking she was going to own up to some of her bad parenting with Ryan, but then she turned it around and said the ex should be feeling a lot of guilt for the situation. Typical Tamra, even though the ex said that he had many times mentioned to Ryan about the consequences of taking steroids and Ryan chose to ignore that-.”
      I thought the exact same thing!! VERY typical Tamra, always blaming everyone else but pitying herself, and just a total bitch. I don’t get her appeal at all, she has crazed eyes, evil laugh, vulgar language and so obviously having a midlife crisis trying too hard to look young and failing miserably. Yuck.

    • TLM says:

      All I could think was, man… a whole family who have had breast surgery…Tamra, her ex and their son. To anyone who thinks Chaz Bono is odd (not necc. on this site, but I have read a lot of nasty comments on him elsewhere), umm, take a look at this “normal” family. A son AND father who screwed themselves up on steroids and now need to get breasts removed, and a mom who wanted floatation devices implanted. Oy vey.

  51. California35 says:

    Ay I am so behind again… 😦 but I just read something from Twitter that I am SURE you guys already have – what is going on with Jill? She is saying that Mario pushed it or something?

    Where is the person who recaps the blogs ? 😛 lol I will read everything eventually…but gee I just had to coment about that. The reunion is tomorrow and Jill is saying things about Mario, I guess she and Ramona will just not be friends or even pretend friends any more.

    Got to go … I hope to get back tonight so I can catch up.

    • FLG says:

      I think Jillzy is going to try to play Jeana (who really did get shoved a little) and on the reunion and all next season (if Jillzy is still around, one can hope she’s gone) We’ll be hearing about how kind she was to not press charges. I don’t believe for a moment that Mario intentionally did anything to that shrew. I wish she would dig herself another hole in the ground, slither into it and stay there.

      • Mookies1mom says:

        I think someone handed her a shovel and she just keeps on digging deeper and deeper.

        How was your vacation? Thanks for the advice.

        • Mookies1mom says:

          You too shadowsnomore! He’s going to get a grilling when he wakes up. Even though he didn’t have any of these symptoms before he went to sleep I know that shock can wear off and he might feel differently.

        • FLG says:

          We had a very nice time. We got home in time for our local Pride Parade. I was very happy to see our Congresswoman on one of the floats. There were couples in the parade that had been together twenty, thirty, forty, fifty and sixty years. It was very heart warming and touching.

          • Mookies1mom says:

            That’s great. I recently found out that our neighbors share the same anniversary as Mookie’s dad and I do they just have been together longer than we have. But in November we will have been together for 25 years. I know the exact date of our first kiss and before we were married that was the anniversary we celebrated. It’s good to see couples that have been together for so long and still see the sparkle in their eyes when they look at each other.

            Gotta make this quick we are having thunderstorms, Mookie is hiding somewhere and we have already lost power once! Hopefully, for our sake and Mookie’s it will be over soon.

  52. Darren, Jill’s manager/assistant/publicist, is threatening to sue Reality Tea. They wrote a story about the Jill/Mario “feud”.

    Reality Tea’s tweets:

    Realitytea : So Jill’s former assistant/manager/rep is threatening to get his “legal team” on me, alleging I insinuated he leaked the Jill/Mario story

    Realitytea: #1 I’m very impressed he has his own “legal team”

    Realitytea : #2 I hope he’s willing and ready to testify under oath that he has never leaked out a story to
    the press about Jill or her costars!

    Realitytea: #3 Ramona stated last week that Jill’s rep(s) leak stories to the press about her. Is he going to sue her for libel too?

    Realitytea: #4 Does he know what libel is & what it takes to prove it? He should contact his “legal team” next time BEFORE shooting off asinine emails!


    • It seems like they’re trying to get as much press as they can – desperate to stay on the show perhaps????

      • I think Jill and her “team” have lost their minds. This latest story is going to backfire. They never learn!

      • smompy says:

        Jill must be really good at the limbo. She just keeps going lower and lower. Maybe next week she’ll call the Weekly World News to report that Mario also date-raped her at that party and now she’s carrying an an alien lizard baby. Oh, and Plus, she’s definitely NOT lying because Darren and his boyfriend saw the whole thing!

        • AZ Girl says:

          He,he,he she is nuts

          • FLG says:

            I think she’s running scared. She’s got her line of sleazy/skweezyware coming out and if they recast RHONY and she doesn’t get to stay on the show…..well the skweeze may be financial.

            • T-REX says:

              FLG, have you seen her preliminary website showing of the products for squeezemelo(Error thanks again for tha one)? They are hideous and the pics she is using to promote the website, look like darren took them in Bawby’s warehouse, they are so unprofessional, so the line is probably already doomed.

    • Realitytea:# 5 Does Darren know that we know the ‘witness’ is his boyfriend?

      • T-REX says:

        Exactly! I have a couple of lawyers in my family, so in Jzilla-land that qualifies me to comment on this tricky legal issue. Libel and Slander are 2 of the hardest lawsuits to win, due to the freedom of speech granted by that wonderful item called the first amendment. In addition, they are some of the nastiest civil suits as well, because all your dirty laundry comes out of the “closet” on these types of lawsuits. Civil suits are different from Criminal lawsuits, all the innuendo and past deeds cannot be mentioned in criminal cases are fair came in Civil cases. So Darren and his boytoy Trevo decide to take this to court, they better be willing to see their whole lives “exposed”.

  53. boston02127 says:

    I’m watching 19 Kids & Counting. The daughter in law is having a baby on the toilet.

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  55. Nancy says:


    This is on Jill’s Facebook…

    Hey Jill. I just read on Facebook that Thursday
    is un friend you on Facebook and your Blog and
    un follow on twitter!! What’s that about?
    It came from Real Housewives of Face Book.
    They saw it on twitter.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Yes and the poster got the wrong date. They posted again with the date of June 30th. Jill’s follower numbers on Twitter have been all over the place. They get really high and then her minions “block” a bunch of questionable followers. She is trying to prevent a “meltdown” on the 30th.

      • I think it’s hysterical-if I had the time I would personally tweet everyone of her followers- even the gingerettes about #unfollowJillZarin Day. Their reactions make me laugh harder than hers.

    • Hahahaha- I am sure Jill already knows since she blocked me on twitter.

  56. AZ Girl says:

    The amazing thing about Jill is that she is willing to do anything, say anything, lie about everything to stay relevant. On a daily basis twitter, Facebook or other media sources she is out there. We pick it up and she still comes across as desperate and a pathological nut case. She thinks more is better. Which is not the case. Jill’s claims about Mario and a fight in the Hamptons are insane. If he ever even touched her the police would have been called. Mario is not that stupid and he knows better. Jill is a moron.

    • Nancy says:

      Hi AZ girl,
      Poor poor Jill. I agree with you. Professionally I think Jill is having a breakdown. She’s delusional,
      desperate, probably paranoid and yes a moron.
      If I was Ramona &/or Mario I’d get an attorney and sue her for slander. Seriously I would.
      I think that is the only way this idiot is going to stop. In her mind of course she can do anything she wants to because she can. No one has stopped her and I blame some of this on Bobby. That is part of your job as a spouse. There is no way Bobby can be this daft about Jill’s behavior.

      I think we should “un friend” her tomorrow because of the reunion tapping. That would put her over the edge and then we could see that when the reunion airs.

      • FLG says:

        OMG, her face would melt onto the sofa! Come to think of it, she and Bawby aren’t getting along with sofas very well recently, are they?

  57. Savannah001 says:

    OMG I can’t stand Tamra she makes me sick, I hope one day she ends up in a run down trailer park with about 15 stray cats that wont go away !!!

    I dont have a problem with Melissa I like the fact that she stands her ground and it seems Teresa doesn’t want to pull her usual shit like go after her like she has done before. Who agrees?

    I dont want to talk about any of the casts mothers or fathers out of respect but IMO Teresa’s mother is very very cold toward Joey and Melissa they’ve been saying it and to me they arent wrong I see it…

  58. AZ Girl says:

    F.Y,I. Jill’s twitter followers numbers have been all over the place. This afternoon she was 153 away from the 150,000 goal and then the number started going down. I think she may have her minions blocking questionable followers so not to have a “meltdown” on the 30th.

    As Nancy posted above several poster on FB have given Jill the heads up on the 30th. It is going to be really interesting to see what does happen.

    • I just checked now and she has a tad over 150k. I was looking at some of her followers and noticed something, there are tons of orgs. that follow her- the standard ones that follow people for hopes that will follow back, news outlets and people trying to promote stuff.

  59. Adgirl says:

    Wow did Jill change her entire story? I thought Bobby came to the rescue, Now it’s Darren? Can’t wait to find out tomorrow what else happened. LOL.

  60. TLM says:

    With all due respect to the blog, I find anything to do with Jill a giant yawn, and I guess I have for a long time. I have had a far more passionate dislike for Camille “Jesus Complex” Grammer and Alison Dubious. Luann Dullest Eps, Sonja, Alex and Rameana would be runners-up, but all still boring. Jill is a non-entity. I am looking forward to the 3rd season of Bethenny and then her talk show, which I assume will air in the fall sometime.

  61. Nancy says:

    Are you out there????? Tonight on CNN at 7pm (west coast time) their is something
    going on between Obama and same sex marriage per our cutie Anderson Cooper.
    If I can I’ll watch it for you. (I have to feed the zoo first as they are getting anxious.)

    • Nancy says:

      Clearly Obama is NOT for same sex marriage. 😦

      • Kerry Okie says:

        I think he is, but he’s playing politics because the Jesus people would hammer him for it. He’s just playing it safe, but if he wins a second term, I predict he’ll go public with his support for same sex marriage; then he won’t have anything to lose.

        • FLG says:

          I hope you are right Kerry. I don’t share your optimism, but I would happily be proved wrong.

      • smompy says:

        Of all the many things Obama has done to disappoint me, his cowardice regarding equal rights for gay people is probably the most disappointing. I held out hope that once he got elected, he’d actually take a stand and speak from his heart, but just like Hillary Clinton and many others who seemed to be genuine supporters of civil equality for ALL, Obama turned out to be a political animal and nothing more. If there’s even a slight chance that his supporting something controversial (such as same sex marriage) might hurt his poll numbers, his own personal moral and ethical beliefs fly right out the window. All his “rousing” speeches are meaningless to me since the man is unable or unwilling to actually LEAD by example.

        OK, I’ll get down from my soapbox now!

        • Kerry Okie says:

          I’ve been reading comments here off and on all day, and I have to say, I agree completely with every single thing you’ve written. Run for office; I’d vote for you.

          • Lurker Also says:

            I love it when I’ve seen people remind each other to stay away from religion and politics. I am a proud “Jesus person” and as I have respect for you, I would love the same in return. Thanks.

  62. Simon’s tweets:

    SimonvanKempen Simon van Kempen
    May the force be with, Honesty, Truth & Fair Play! RT @——: @Simonvanempen may the force be with the blondes or at least good vodka.
    2 hours ago

    SimonvanKempen Simon van Kempen
    2day mightB the longest day of the year but if u ask the #RHoNY I’m guessing they’ll think 2mrw will b, as that’s when they tape the reunion
    3 hours ago

  63. FLG says:

    It’s campaign time again. I had high hopes for President Obama, but I would be untruthful if I didn’t say that I have been very disappointed. The repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell isn’t enough. Hubs and I are pragmatic and unfortunately I think we will be forced to leave the USA to live in the type of society that meets our needs.

    • Kerry Okie says:

      I know; I’ve been disappointed as well, but what’s the alternative? No one on the right is going to champion the cause. It’s a shame. I think it will happen in time because the majority of Americans are finally coming around. If he gets a second term, I think his opinion will evolve, at least I hope it will.

      • FLG says:

        He will certainly be able to devote more time to his legacy with a second term. I agree that the majority of Americans are finally coming around, but not enough currently hold elected office. Washington DC still seems stuck in the old paradigm. We lost a lot of momentum because of HIV. We haven’t found the quality of gay leaders that we had pre-HIV. I was shocked when California passed prop 8. One of the main reasons I so dislike Jill Zarin is because she claimed to be gay friendly, but held a fund raiser for Charlie Crist. That cemented my opinion of her. I can’t think of anything she can do to overcome that.

    • AZ Girl says:

      Pride parade in Phoenix is this Saturday (hubby and AZ Girls 28th anniversary) . Always look forward to the fun. Even here…he,he,he. They do such a great job on the parade.

      • FLG says:

        Congrats on the anniversary! Have lots of fun! Now, if Alexis Bellino will just let me have ONE hubby……seeing how she’s on number two…..

  64. FLG says:

    I just don’t see it happening here in our lifetimes. It already exists elsewhere.

  65. Connie Dobbs says:


    Lets take a look at Lynn, this is the same woman who takes toilet paper rolls and makes them into cuff bracelets, she has no name-recognition whatsoever (who has heard of this woman before”?). Meanwhile Gretchen — love or hate her — is smoking hot. If you were the 2 guys from the purse line, why wouldn’t you attach yourself to a hottie, I mean, from the 2 handbag guys perspective, Gretchen is going to sell more handbags than Lynn. And how many pills was Lynn on while she was confronting Gretchen. Gretchen has the looks and personality to go on QVC, Lynn comes off as washed up, desperate, pill and drug addictted mess.

    Remember this is the same Lynn that didn’t pay rent and skipped out like 3 or 4 times. google it.


    Lets see here, Ryan, who has spent time in jail, abused ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES, oh I mean “Steroids” and got “bitch tits” from using them (a common side effect). He looks straight out of the douche-bags on TheDirty.com, you know the messed up hair, drugs, Affliction T-Shirts. Ryan is a mess. And boo hoo I took illegal steroids and got tits. At least mommy can pay for your breast reduction.


    I agree Slade is shady – I don’t trust him, Gretchen should dump his **s, but he’s got no job, so he has no way to pay for his child support. I don’t see what people want him to do, rob a bank? Last time I checked California has the worst unemployment in the nation, its pretty hard to find a job. I’m not really too fond of Slade, but its pretty simple to understand that this guy is not rolling in the money anymore and can’t pay up. I did read where the judge took his license away and then reinstated it (i think). I think Slade is living in his own hell — he can’t pay child support and Gretchen will nevery marry him because he’s a deadbeat and has no job.

    • MAMAZ says:

      The whole Slade child support issue is complicated.
      On the one hand he says he’s paying and that he has the proof. If he does then he needs to show the documents. Then all the gossip would be over.
      On the other hand you have to do whatever it takesshort of robbing a bank) to support your kids.

      Yes California has a terrible unemployment rate but he doesn’t have to stay there. It’s time for him to try another line of work in another place if necessary.
      Of course he may have already tried. If I ran a company I wouldn’t want to hire anyone associated with the Housewives franchise.

      Maybe he’s paying what he can but it still doesn’t meet the court ordered payment. Maybe he’s not paying on purpose so his son’s medical expenses are covered by state programs.

      Deadbeat Dad is one of those phrases that gets an knee jerk reaction. Tamra knows this and thats why she keeps saying it about him. Same with the word ABUSE in reference to Simon.

      The thing that weirds meout about Slade is how many Houswives he’s dated. He loves the camera more than any woman he’s going to be ina realtionship with.

  66. FLG says:

    I tend to agree with your synopsis Connie. This economy is brutal and only the fittest and the thieves survive. It’s dog eat dog out there. My generation has no idea of what the depression was like. You can read about it, but it’s not the same as living it. Most of us weren’t taught to be prepared for any of this.

  67. FLG says:

    Bethenny was so smart in her approach and her products. They are something that is consumed and replaced often. Food and Drink are competitive, but people eat and drink. They don’t have to buy a girdle, a purse or roadkill jewelry. If they do, they’re only going to buy it in limited quantities. So sorry Jill, Lynn and Kelly, but that is just the way it is. Gretchen at least has a chance with make up, but I think Ramona has her beat there as well. Pinot Grigio is a great idea, too, if she can keep it flying off the shelves. She needs the show or QVC to keep that happening. Bethenny has really built a brand. Move over Martha Stewart! There’s a new girl in town and you didn’t hire her when you had the chance….

    • I’m watching Million Dollar Decorator – and have to say that finally I’m really liking a new Bravo show.

      • Cusi77 says:

        Me too! What a great program! Without the drama, gossip, backstabbing, fights that I have had enough… I am looking forward for Chris March program, I like him soooooo much!

      • California35 says:

        I watched that tonight, it’s pretty good. What do the gay couple do thoughtonight was about their cooking and b-day party… I did not watch last week. I have been curious about Mary McDonald because Andy said a Karen character from Will & Grace was based on her.

    • California35 says:

      You are so right! Specially about Bethenny 🙂

      • MAMAZ says:

        FLG – Bethenny saw a need and met it by creating a calorie free cocktail. Thats really innovative. I have a co worker doing Weight Watchers and 1 SG Margarita is 0 pts. 2 is only 1 pt. She was very excited.
        JZ wants to jump in on someone elses success. There are already too many Spanx knock off. Any woman who shops in the lingerie dept of any store can tell you there are racks and racks of them.
        Gretchens products are cheap and generic. Thats not the way to establish a long term career. I haven’t tried Ramona’s wine. I’m not a Pinot Grigio fan. But it seems like a novelty item to me.

        Bethenny is smart enough to CREATE something new. She has earned her success.
        JZ is lazy and wants to ride other people coattails. And then she’s bitter when she doesn’t acheive what they have.
        I think Gretchen is trying to develope something for after the Housewives are over but shes going about it the wrong way. Someone is giving her bad advice.
        I think Ramona is spreading herself too thin. She should have stayed with her original businesses only. When you start introducing product after product it starts to sound like you aren’ serious about any of them.

    • T-REX says:

      Bethenny is also promoting “healthy” lifestyle options which is also a very good marketing plan, this way she doesn’t have to take over the Martha S Crowd, she made her own crowd and everyone is following B on that journey, and yes Martha S is likely very unhappy she didn’t hire B.

  68. Nancy says:

    That was GREAT.
    We should put “MOVE OVER MARTHA”
    on a T-shirt.

  69. FLG says:

    I guess I will see if I can suffer through the OC lost footage. Wish me luck. Sounds like I may need it.

  70. Adgirl says:

    I’m STILL thinking about that weird claim (uh, her new improved claim with extra vitamin bitch in it.) of Jill’s. Mario “shoved” her. And this time it was Durwood that rescues the fair Jill from the evil Mario instead of boring old Bobby intervening with a few calm words.

    I think Nancy was right upthread.. Jill is coming apart. Maybe all of the rumors about replacing the whole cast is freaking her out just when she launching her granny panty line.

    • Mookies1mom says:

      I think you are both right. Jill is coming apart. But why isn’t Bawby stopping her from making an a@@ out of herself. If I were Mario and Ramona I would sue her for defamation. She needs to be stopped some way and we all know how she likes lawyers.

      Move over Martha! Love it!!!!

      • Adgirl says:

        I would suggest consulting an attorney too. Ramona has damages to her wine launch. And Mario has damages due to cheating accusations.I’ve heard he is very faithful about going to mass (I have no idea about how faithful he is to his marrage). he runs a faith base jewelry line.
        Even if the Singers don’t win, Jill will definetly be on the defense and have to shut her pie hole.

        • chismosa says:

          hi there- just catching up to comments and had to see if anyone had said much about People’s preposterous posting from Jill and her pr people. I cannot get over this and Ramona had better legally threaten her or something at the reunion- tapes tomorrow right?

          Question- Adgirl- since you said you know that Mario goes to mass- is he catholic? With the last name Singer i always wondered about their background. I think i read Ramona was Italian and Mario certainly seems Italian and perhaps his mom- was OTB- hence him speaking it- but his father? Thanks, just wondering if you knew anything

  71. Mookies1mom says:

    Well, I hope everyone has a great night. I’m afraid our power isn’t going to last long. Again.

  72. cdninvegas says:

    Dearest IHJZ (and related sites) bloggers/commenters:
    Where or where have you peeps been all of my HW life? (circa 2006-present)
    I have been posting timidly the past couple of weeks while being endlessly (obsessively?) entertained by y’all. Despite (perhaps because of) the snarkiness, your droll, witty and often hilarious posts have been providing me with the most fun I’ve had in a long while. Just so I don’t go pee-ing some of you off, can you give me some tips on the methodology of posting? Don’t want to use arcane language (get called out on that by my teenage son daily) or offer silly drabble that wastes everyone’s time. Perhaps you can point me to a “Message Boarding for Dummies” website, or offer me insights as I boldly go where no Cdninvegas has gone before. Thanks in advance and apologies if I’ve already broken some of the rules. You gals/guys rock my world! xo

    • Adgirl says:

      Just jump in! We don’t care what or how you write. The only rule on Lynn’s blog is don;t attcka other posters personally.
      It’s late on the West Coast so not too many people here tonight.

      • cdninvegas says:

        AG: you must be the sweetheart who responded to my comment about Kellyism t’s on RCH yesterday. Is it sad that I’ve been smiling all day that you responded so kindly? Shall I get a life or continue to love on all of you for this fun-fest? xo from the desert….

    • You are doing fine so far- I am sure you will fit right in 🙂

    • Cusi77 says:

      Welcome to IHJZ Family Cdninvegas! I am in Vegas as well! As Adgirl pointed out the only rule here is be respectful to each other while agree to disagree… in other words: play nice with each other! Here you can find a lot of fun, insightful thoughts, snarky remarks to The RHW’s that put their lives out there in TV for us to have an opinion and many times backed with Internet links, for the entertainment of all.

      Have fun!

      • cdninvegas says:

        Hey Cusi! Perhaps we should start a “Love/Hate the Housewives” Meet-up group where we can drink Pinot or SGMs or Diet Coke while watching endless reruns together! I’ll pay the fee if you can find the members! and ps. thank you for the encouraging words. You’ll all be sick of me by the end of the week!

        • Cusi77 says:

          OMG That would be great! I am willing to have a meeting with all the girls and guys here to thank Lynn for providing us with this forum where we can express our thoughts without the help of Bravo who never post our comments!

          If you want to contact me email Lynn Hudson she will give you my email and we can have a get together! That will be great! I do not know anyone here who watches the RHW’s!

          • cdninvegas says:

            Will do – if I can figure out how to email Lynn directly (sorry everyone else for having to read this semi-personal chit-chat, but if we can get a local Meet-up group going, we’ll give you tips on how to start one in your own cities….promise! This could become a phenom as relevant as these message boards! Check out http://www.meetup.com if you don’t know what I’m referencing. They have groups for just about everything imaginable! BTW – Cusi – even if it’s just you and me, let’s do this!

        • California35 says:


          I lobe your idea to meet for drinks and talk about the HW shows lol I ant join you since I am in California, but wouldn’t it be fun if we all just happen to start getting together as we find out we live close by…until we end up with lots of groups getting together and then we can post here about out meetings. Did I take it too far? 😛

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Welcome Dcninvegas! I’m glad you could join us! 🙂

  73. cdninvegas says:

    Another sweet comment! Thank you for the kind encouragement! BTW – my tummy still hurts from laughing at the video of the ‘magazine to the head’ lady.

    • cdninvegas says:

      * sorry – that last comment was in response to RabbleRouser’s sweet words….jeez, I’ve got a lot to learn…..

    • Debbie says:

      hi there, cdinvegas..
      welcome to the blog.. no rules other than what was already said.. agree to disagree and remain civil to one another.. always nice to see another poster that lurks before jumping in.. i was totally afraid when i first posted.. i don’t understand why.. and afraid might be the wrong word. in ‘real life’ i don’t hesitate to speak my mind nor am i shy but i found that when i was ready to write i felt insecure. i think i’m over that now. it doesn’t seem like you’ll have any problem fitting right in.. another playmate is always a plus.:)

  74. chismosa says:

    i can’t believe that PEOPLE.COM is putting a bit about Jill and Mario ‘hitting’ her— OMG. This is perfectly placed right before they film the reunion- Ramona better LET HER HAVE IT. omggggggggggggggg

    Jill… i just… i can’t even

    • California35 says:

      She is accomplishing what she wanted… Get attention, be relevant…maybe later she would even diny the whole thing, but in the mean time many people (those who dont know of her) could sympathize with her and get some new fans.

      • chismosa says:

        i mean i get it, but why on earth would People magazine give her any time or place to do her immature slandering? I have lost respect for People much in the last few years, now it has ultimately gone down even lower. I HATE JILL ZARIN. soooooo much.
        Jue 30th cannot come sooner! i am going to open multiple twitter accounts to follow her and then unfollow. i can’t take it. i need a xanax

    • T-REX says:

      CHi- You need to read the comments(I have one there), almost 90% of them are calling BS on the story another 5% just outright hate Jzilla, 3% are chastising people for watching the shows, 1% don’t know who the RHNY people or Jzilla are. The one percent left over are Jzilla’s PR department posting I love Jzilla posts!

  75. chismosa says:

    to Dizziest Queen:
    If you see this and can just comment back to me tomorrow or whenever— you mentioned on another blog here that you have a theory as to the killer on the Killing– you think it was a woman? Gwen? Aunt Terry? It’s been such a mindfu** and i don’t know how to get over this and wait for next season to see what the h happened here! thanks, just had to get that out of my system
    Who can Holder have been working with !!! omg i can’t take this.

  76. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Good morning~saw lost footage last night & cannot believe Lynn on OC. She definitely has gone from weed to crack as someone said.
    She really needs to get away from Tamra who is using her to hurt Gretchen. Maybe even paid her?

    • I think she did that just to get some air time for her purse line. After all, if she hadn’t – we’d have forgotten about her.

    • TLM says:

      Probably Tamra stirred that up. But WTF was Lunesta Lynne talking about when she said she “has been working on this for 20 years” meaning her handbag line? I thought she was just doing her kooky cuff bracelets. And why would she be making fun of Gretchen for doing makeup and handbags – 2 things – and acting like Gretchen has 15 different businesses, when Lynne went from cuff bracelets to BEDDING? And who cares?

      I commend Gretchen for leaving when she realized Lynne was just there to continue yammering to herself and wasn’t listening to anything anyone else was saying. I think I would have lost it on her.

      • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

        Lynn’s face looked like it was melting..she should stop hanging out with the Trash..

  77. Thought of the day – Is Jill the new Heidi (as in Heidi Montag). She’ll do anything for press – good or bad. She drove her BFF off the show. Were any of the rumors Spenser (Jill’s Darren) started true?

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      I believe she thinks any press is good press. Doesn’t matter if it’s bad. What were the rumors housewifeaddict?

      • By rumors I mean the stories that Darren (allegedly) leaks to the press – from the tiny things to the latest of Mario shoving Jill. It’s non-stop on Page6 and PopEater – and has been for years.

        • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

          No way~I was just reading what you’re talking about on RT and agree that if it were true JZ would have said it from the beginning. She is making this up for more press & sympathy which she’ll never get from me.lol

  78. boston02127 says:

    Good morning

    ~~~~ ☼ ~~~~

    • TLM says:

      How many ingredientzes do the recipes use? Do they have cummin?

      • Caitlin says:

        Thank you!!!! I guffawed more over those “lapses” than anything I’ve seen this season!!

    • Debbie says:

      From NY Daily News article… Milania made another unpleasant appearance:
      “Add whining daughter Milania into the mix – who threw a fit because she wanted to cook with Mommy rather than head to school – and Giudice is, to put it lightly, at wit’s end.

      “She’s so drama,” she says after shooing her daughter out the door with her nanny. “And she gets it from me.”

      I thought Tree said she only has a nanny when she’s making out of town appearances.

      • Debbie says:

        One more thing…has anyone noticed that whenever Tree is taking about her recipes and doing a demo on TV or in press, it’s always the same recipe? Devil Shrimp? Sounds like Shrimp Fra Diavlo to me. Another re-worked recipe.

  79. TLM says:

    Is anyone watching Platinum *hit these days? I’ve just seen *fractions* of 2 episodes and I can’t decide whom I want to kill most. Gee, is it the mohawked dude who tries to sound like REM and said, “I’m not here to make friends” (Gee, never heard THAT ONE before…and has ANYONE who ever said that on a competition ever won? I don’t think so). Is is the John Mayer imitator? The Melissa Etheridge imitator? The Paula Cole imitator? The crazy girl who sang “Love it or hate it” 20 times in a row and called it a song? Or just the irritating hosts?

    I think if I had to spend 5 minutes with this group, I’d be singing, “I’m leaving on a jet plane” and head to the airport.

  80. Evie says:

    no, he is not….

  81. Karyn says:

    OMW Lynn, you say everything that I am thinking, and some things that I didn’t know I was thinking 🙂 I loooove your blog and should thank BZ for mentioning the situation to Simon last week, otherwise I would not have found it….in fact I was actually humored to find so many options for the search term that I entered about hating someone and so on. I am so relieved to see that others feel the same about the yucky wives and see the beauty in the sweet ones. Your posting is spot on and I applaud you…keep us all giggling 🙂
    I am now a follower.
    You are fabulous!

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