I Hate Jill Zarin The Real Housewives of New Jersey / Mob Wives
Real Housewives of New Jersey by LynnNChicago
This may be the most annoying blog you read all week about the Real Housewives of New Jersey because I have a lot of “I told you so’s” to say. I kid I kid! No really…
Melissa and Teresa had their sit down, it was a bit frustrating sort of like watching Jill and Ramona not listen to each other. Melissa heard what Teresa said and Teresa heard what Melissa said but they didn’t really hear each other. They’re both skeptical about this relationship working and they’re both not ready to trust the other. Sorry to mention New York again but this is what I had been saying for months about Jill and Bethenny. Everyone kept saying they wanted them to repair their friendship and be buddies again but there was no way that Bethenny could ever trust Jill again after what she had done. That friendship is dead, always will be. (told ya so)
With Melissa and Teresa it is a bit different, they’re family so they have no choice but to see each other, interact and they have to find a way to make it work. Based on their most recent blogs, they haven’t made anything work. I hope they’re allowing the kids to play together regardless of the adult feuds.
One of the things that came out was that while Teresa constantly tells viewers that she has “No Help” with her house or her children, apparently she does have help, she just doesn’t pay her help. Her help is her mother and Joe’s mother who, according to Melissa, are there every day helping Teresa. (told ya so!) There isn’t anything wrong with a mother helping her daughter but Teresa should give her credit and stop lying about not having any help.
I thought Teresa threw a low blow out there by stating on-screen that some plumber approached her husband to complain that her brother hasn’t paid him. This isn’t something to talk about on television but more than that Teresa should be siding with her brother and not some contractor. Teresa clearly hasn’t asked her brother about the situation and Melissa is right, contractors are forever dealing with sub-contractors who claim they’ve not been paid. There are lots of legitimate reasons to hold back payment to a contractor. Maybe the work isn’t done, or wasn’t done correctly, had Teresa thought of that? Who is Teresa to talk about not paying contractors? She’s got a list of them in her bankruptcy who haven’t been paid for building their home. Allegedly.
I will give Teresa credit for trying to bury the past, I’m not sure if that is always the best thing to do, sometimes hashing it out is best because things can fester, but Teresa seemed like she sincerely wanted to try to make things better and so did Melissa, bringing the photos of the family when they were all happy together was a great idea. Teresa is the one who stood and went to hug her sister-in-law so she gets a tiny thumbs up for that. Melissa is unsure because she thinks that it could be all for the cameras.
Twice on tonight’s episode Teresa was confronted with the name, Kathy, her cousin. Teresa flat-out refused to even discuss the possibility of trying to repair her relationship with Kathy and that was pretty disappointing. We haven’t heard anything that Kathy has done to Teresa up to this point, the only thing Teresa mentioned was Kathy’s husband Rich making snide comments about Teresa’s financial situation, hell we all do that! Jacqueline and Caroline have done that! Teresa told viewers that she thought Kathy should tell her husband to stop making jokes about Teresa and Joe’s finances. Does Teresa tell her husband to shut it when he says something stupid? No she doesn’t! When Joe Giudice flipped out in the bus in Italy she specifically said that she removes herself from the situation and doesn’t say anything to Joe.
How can Melissa and Joey maintain their relationship with cousins Kathy and her husband Richie while Teresa refuses to try to mend fences with Kathy? Awkward!
I think Teresa is really upset that Kathy is a housewife, she wasn’t happy about Melissa being a housewife but I think she’s happy for her brother because they clearly wanted to be on the show but Teresa doesn’t want to share the spotlight with her cousin too. (told ya so!)
The Giudice’s, Laurita’s and Manzo’s flock to the Catskills. Teresa and Joe have a home there, one more time….not mentioned anywhere on the bankruptcy documents as an asset but I may have heard Joe saying it was his dad’s place so I’ll hold my “told ya so” for another time on this one.
They eat, they drink (heavily) and they shoot guns. Jacqueline was hysterical during this episode, I think she doesn’t get showcased as much as the other housewives because she’s not a raving bitch, or a show off or pushing advice on people. She’s just her, she’s happy and healthy and enjoying her life, she’s funny too! As her husband packs his shotguns to take on their trip Jacqueline says, “I’m getting my period, do you really want me around guns?” then later, “This look on my face is the look of concern, maybe you can’t tell because of all the botox”. (Paraphrasing)
Later as Jacqueline arrives at the Giudice Catskills home she takes one look at the stuffed dead animals on the walls and says, “Oh My God, Where am I? Look into the sad eyes of those cute animals and how can you shoot them? Cold hearted bastards” Again paraphrasing but funny stuff!
Still later as Jac goes Quad riding with her husband she is pissed because he drove too fast so she gets off and walks back to the house saying, ” I’m going to get your credit card and spend all your money” or something like that. She was seriously angry but funny too!
Caroline was a stick in the mud, she didn’t want her son’s (both over 21) to shoot guns or ride the Quads, they did both. She freaked out about the roasted pig on a spit and was pretty rude about it. Caroline was also extremely rude in the Giudice family chapel on the property. Apparently she thinks that if you shoot guns and say a prayer in church you’re a hypocrite, she found it so funny that she made a complete ass out of herself in the chapel by laughing out of control. She should have stepped out when the pig was brought in and she should definitely have stepped out of that chapel. Why did she even go in? Clearly she had no respect for it. She should have stood in there respectfully quiet or not go in to begin with. This woman gives out advice?
Many people were tweeting and commenting here about Teresa’s clothing, Andy even did a Teresa fashion recap on Watch What Happens Live making fun of her wardrobe on this episode. You all know I’m no Teresa fan but I liked the fur boots and who cares what pajamas look like? (of course she did know she would be on TV) I wasn’t a fan of her fugly green headband/wool hat but everything else was ok to me. Maybe I’m the only one?
Outside of her wardrobe I thought her behavior along with her husband’s was absolutely “too much information” or TMI as many said! She actually held up a sex toy in her interview and not only talked about it but demonstrated it, nobody wants to see that, seriously nobody! Doesn’t Bravo know their audience? I don’t think any of us care who is better at giving BJ’s Teresa or Jacqueline. Besides, how the hell do they know? Chris may have a different scorecard than Joe Giudice. We’re not prudes and we’re not even offended by the foul language, that usually goes by without mention but we don’t want to see Teresa and Joe Giudice in bed knowing he has a ring on his manhood that vibrates. Really, we don’t.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Joe Giudice calling his wife a “dirty whore” and slapping her on the ass is not turning her on, certainly not as much as she pretends that it does. Talk about acting for the cameras! I can only imagine what she says to him in return when the cameras are off. Joe just needs to prove he is a disgusting pig in every episode, doesn’t he?
We didn’t want to see Tamra having sex in a bathtub, we didn’t want to see Teresa straddling Joe last season on their anniversary, hell I didn’t want to see Alex’s sexy fashion show for Simon or Ramona massaging Mario, what makes the producers think we need to see all this crap? It’s like seeing Jill giving Bobby Zarin a BJ for those diamonds she got for her birthday……I need to bleach my brain just thinking about it. It made me want to vomit just hearing Jill SAY it! Nobody is saying that sex is dirty or a bad thing, at least I’m not saying that but we don’t watch housewives for that reason. We want to see drama not sex!
And now for something almost as disgusting, Joe Giudice eating! What the hell was that? I thought they had good, solid Italian upbringing, why is this man eating with his mouth open? He was also a huge, ass talking about his former friend and brother-in-law Joey Gorga. What’s with the nasty comments when his wife is trying to patch everything up? I like how he calls him a “little guy” when Guidice himself is all of 5 foot nothing, those muscles that Teresa thinks she’s seeing under his shirt is flab giggling.
The next day the men did some shooting and Joe Giudice shot two watermelons that were mounted on a tree and then shouted, “I’m good as hell, I’m fuckin John Wayne”. Yes he did! On a side note, did they really bring watermelons so that they could shoot them? That’s so wrong on so many levels but this episode had so many things that were wrong the watermelon’s are sort of lost in the sea of inappropriate scenes.
I can’t wait until Teresa comes out with her “copy cat Bethenny” cocktails that smell like rotten eggs and dirty old dog farts. I love Jacqueline, she doesn’t lie for anyone!
In all fairness, I think the weekend in the Catskills looked like a lot of fun! The men enjoyed the skeet shooting and target practice, the women seemed to have fun shopping. There was amazing food (regardless of Caroline’s ugly faces) and riding Quads, relaxing and having a few drinks. It really looks like a rare fun trip on a housewives show. No drama (although Caroline tried hard to create drama) just fun!
A few of the couples went to a local bar in the Catskills and since Teresa needs to be the center of attention she ends up taking the microphone and trying to find a single man for Caroline’s friend Delores. I think poor Delores went along with it so as not to be the spoiled sport but she looked mortified. Leave it to Teresa to embarrass the poor woman.
At least twice tonight Teresa tried to show she had money, style and class. She insulted the store owners by saying that they looked like they’d never been in Bloomingdales then insulted the bar by saying it looked like it was right out of 5th Avenue. (apparently she’s speaking of New York) These are Teresa’s attempts to act like she has money, style and class but only managed to insult a few dozen people and make a complete fool of herself.
Melissa and Joey Gorga’s daughter Antonia is asked to participate in a Christmas Dance Recital. I really thought it was going to be a bunch of little boys and girls dancing with their parents and grandparents gushing and tearing up. This was a Ballroom Dance studio with mostly adults dancing in the show. It was a really bad commercial for this dance studio and they won’t sell a whole lot of lessons based on what we saw but little Antonia did a fabulous job, she was beautiful and confident and her parents were very proud of her. Kathy and Richie attended along with Joey’s mother but it was awkward for Kathy as the last time she saw her aunt was at the Posche Fashion Show and Kathy got yelled at.
It was nice to see Joey Gorga with his mother, he really did look very happy and Melissa said that her husband enjoys his mother when Teresa isn’t around. Why did she have to bring up Teresa? I wonder if mom creates tension between her daughter and son? I’ve seen this happen in fact I’ve seen it with distant members of my own family. The mother actually talks up the other sibling when they’re alone causing jealousy. Things like, “you should see your brother’s house, it’s bigger than yours” or “You should see your sister’s sex toys, they’re more stretched out than yours”. (Teresa cheated you see, she stretched it out with her hands) All kidding aside I have wondered for a long time why Mrs. Gorga hasn’t stepped in to try to create peace between her two children. Maybe she has and we haven’t seen it or maybe she is the cause of some of the tension? Never can tell!
As Melissa and Joey prepare to go out producers, in keeping with tonight’s sex theme, show Joey groping his wife, more stuff we don’t want to see. Staaaaaap, just staaaaap! Kelly Bensimon and NeNe Leakes would be completely mortified and crawl under the table if they were present at any of these discussions.
If I may say a few words to Bravo, bear with me.
Dear Bravo, We don’t want to see our housewives having sex, we know they do it, most of them have children to prove it but it is not why we tune in. There is nothing sexy about Jill Zarin, Teresa Giudice or Tamra Barney TO US! Save it for Showtime After Dark. Maybe you could do a Housewives After Dark and show those scenes on that show! Thank you for your time.
Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen
Guests: Jacqueline Laurita, Vicki Gunvalson and Dina Manzo?
What the hell was Dina Manzo doing on the show? In our final “told ya so” moment of the night Dina Manzo admitted she would love nothing more than to be back on the show but now that she has her own show (which explains why she wanted to be there) she would love to do a few guest appearances like having coffee with Teresa or something. (which explains why Bravo won’t let her be on the show) Rumor has it that Dina begged to be allowed to return to the show but without her husband (who refuses to be part of the show) and her daughter (whose father won’t let her be part of the show) Bravo doesn’t want her. Her final scenes during her final appearance on the show were so dull it was like watching paint dry. She seemed to be wandering around her overly decorated house with her cat under her arm most of the time. The only scenes that Dina was involved in that were even the slightest bit interesting involved Danielle Staub. That story got old fast! It made absolutely no sense for Dina to set up a dramatic meeting to tell Danielle that she wanted her out of her life. Why not just cut her out of your life and move on? It’s not like they even ever got together, apparently it was a few text messages, just stop the texting! Did she really think Danielle was going to just say, “Ok Dina, have a nice life, Bye!”? (that would have been pretty cool if she had said that)
So I have to say, “I told ya so” because I said that Dina wanted back on the show and tonight proved that she did and in fact still does. I think Dina assumes that if she just had a few scenes she could work her way back to being a full time New Jersey Housewife. No more Grandma Wrinkles Bravo, Please!!!
Before they brought Dina out onto the set, Vicki Gunvalson sat in the primary seat while Jacqueline Laurita joined her. While The Orange County Housewives are finished for the season I think that Andy wanted Vicki on so that she could answer questions about the shitstorm of press she got after the reunion aired. Vicki’s boyfriend Brooks Avery has a history of being a dead beat dad and has even been thrown in jail for non payment of child support. Andy didn’t specifically ask about the letter that Vicki wrote to the judge asking that Brooks be released from jail , Andy let her off the hook allowing her to simply say, “it isn’t all about what you hear about in the media.” As usual Andy doesn’t ask follow up questions, he lets these kind of answers hang in the air and grow mold. You can hear thousands of Housewives viewers screaming the next question at their TV set all over the country but Andy doesn’t ask anything. He just moves on.
Vicki was allowed to sweep all her troubles under the rug. I think she realizes what a huge mistake it was to announce that she had a boyfriend, announce his name and announce that her daughter Brianna was infuriated with her over this situation. Was anyone fooled by her saying that Brianna is all good now? Vicki might have been able to sell it if she hadn’t said, “it was just one bad day”. Really Vickster? Brianna was only upset with you for cheating on Donn for one day? Oh and it happened to be the day that the reunion was shooting. Another housewife who thinks viewers are stupid and will buy anything they’re selling…literally!
Vicki’s final blog on Bravotv.com included this:
When Andy asked me if I was dating, I admitted that I was. It has been eight months since I filed, and the reality is I am happy. I really don’t know if it’s the best timing or whether I should be dating already, but sometimes you just can’t control timing. It’s important for you to know, I filed for divorce in October and the reunion was taped in May. I want you to also know that my separation was not based on the influence of any one else — Not Tamra, not a man, not my family, no one
What Vicks fails to mention is that the letter she wrote to a judge pleading for the release of her boyfriend from jail was written in August of 2010, two months before she filed for divorce. Her blog here tries to make it seem as though she didn’t start dating Brooks until after she filed for divorce but she sure did, in fact some unconfirmed reports are saying that she’s been seeing him since 2007.
Vicki Gunvalson tries to paint herself as the innocent wife who tried everything to save her marriage. I think the trip last season to Turks and Caicos was in preparation for this divorce so that she could report to viewers that she tried everything before giving up on her marriage. I think the fact is she gave up years ago, she has been putting Donn down on screen for years! There is no respect, love or adoration from Vicki, we haven’t seen it and quite frankly I hope Donn finds a good woman who does adore him.
As for Vicki, I don’t believe anything she says. Her digs at Jeana on Watch What Happens Live were unnecessary. She actually said, “should the wine have been thrown? I don’t know” You don’t know? Seriously? According to Vicki Jeana learned her lesson from all of this. Really? I would hate to see how you and Tamra disciplined your kids. Squirt them with the hose if they spill their milk?
For my purposes they could have simply had Jacqueline on the show and lost the other two. We didn’t get any information out of Vicki except a few lies and Dina added nothing!
Staten Island, New York City
Karen Gravano is in her apartment and speaking on the phone to David, a recently paroled felon and the father of her daughter. David listens to Karen talk about the other Mob Wives and he advises her to not get caught up in the drama. Karen shares that she finished the first chapter of her book. David tells Karen “to not worry about the haters, let haters hate.”
David and Karen share a daughter, Karena, and their love for their childe brings them closer to each other. They both end the phone call with “I love you.”
Renee Graziao visits Kelly her therapist and for the first time this season, Renee is happy. She removed Jr. completely from her life. She feels empowered. She describes her friendship with the girls as a close knit circle. She thinks they are in a really good place and there won’t be any cattiness, bickering or pulling of hair.
Carla Facciolo is speaking to Joe, her ex-husband on the phone. Joe is living in a half-way house after recently being released from federal prison. They agree to speak again during the week.
Nicole, a mother with an infant, visits Drita Davanzo. Drita is stressed because Karen gave her a chapter of her book to read. Drita explains the timeline of her relationship with Lee. She believes that Karen broke up with Lee in 97 and that she started dating him at the end of 99. Karen was pregnant with someone else’s baby at the time. Drita exclaims, “This is aggravating the shit out of me. This is crossing the enemy line. She got not spades so she better throw in her hand.”
Karen and Renee meet and they discuss the book. Karen tells Renee that she gave a chapter to Drita who never responded. Renee wants to know why she gave it to Drita in an interview. Renee thinks that the friendship of Karen and Drita is “bull.” Renee says, “This is not a merry-go-round. Get over it.” Renee thinks that Drita and Karen should spend a week in the backwoods. She suggests that one or the other will come out.
Drita calls Carla who is in the neighborhood shopping and they agree to meet in 20 minutes at a Lounge to talk.
Drita is troubled. She went to a new salon where a stranger said that Aleeya, 10 years old, could come in the back and watch TV. Drita wants to know how this woman knows her daughter and the woman says that she used to date a friend of her husband. The salon manager shares that several year ago a man fitting Drita’s husband’s decription with a tribal tattoo brought his daughter to the salon to meet with the lady in the back. The salon owner did not know his name, but he was not married.
Drita realizes that Lee cheated on her. He was in prison for most of their marriage but in the two years that he was out he met with this woman and took her child with him. She has a big decision to make.
Carla shares that Joe cheated on her too.
Carla meets with Ali, a friend. The women discuss Joe. He told Carla that he needed a place to live and he might end up on her doorstep. If he comes home and then leaves it will upset the kids.
Drita goes to the office of a lawyer to learn about the process of divorce. She tells her story to him and he offers to help her when she decides.
At home, Drita is on the phone and the couch. She calls each of the other wives, speaks briefly and cryptically, and then makes a date for them all to meet.
Drita in an interview curses Karen. She feels that Karen is dishonest and trouble making won’t fly with her.
Renee says “count me in.” She sees drama coming. She is looking forward to the confrontation.
The women dress up and go to Rare View to a restaurant on the top of a building. Renee hopes they are Mary Poppins with an umbrella because it is a long way down.
Renee is on time. Carla and Karen are late. Drita arrives in a black town car with a driver and she is very late. The women greet each other. Drita is visibly stressed. Drita wants the issue with Karen cleared up. Drita thinks that Karen has told the others (and America) that she betrayed her so Drita wants to talk about a time line. Karen does not care about a time line.
Drita says that she started dating Lee in the end of 99 and Karen broke up with him in 97. Karen says she was still with his in 98. Drita points out that Karen was pregnant with David’s child, but Karen says she was still with Lee just cheated on him. Drita is irate. Drita says that Karen had sex with Drita’s boyfriend at the time, but Karen said they only made out. Drita mentions another man and Karen says that she admits cheating on Lee.
Karen tells her cast mates that Drita was her girl and that she lived with her therefore Drita had no right to date Lee. Drita goes ballistic. She said that she was not Karen’s friend at the time because they had not talked for months as Karen move to Phoenix to have her baby. Karen again accuses Drita of cheating on their friendship and she does not care about a time frame. Drita has officially gone insane at this point. She yells that they lost contact. Drita says that she respect Karen coming back even with her father’s situation. Karen’ s father was a rat. Drita is yelling that Karen came into her home and disrespected her family. She screams at Karen “to go the F*** you come from.”
Drita gets up and goes to the other side of the table when Renee gets involved and pulls Karen down. Drita jumps on her and they are hitting and pulling hair. Karen’s black spanx are showing the whole time as her legs are in the air in her skirt is short. Drita wisely wore slacks.
There is a lot of yelling and “I am going to kill you , you Mother F*****s.”
Thanks Quincy, great job! Lynn~
I hope you’re not all sick to death of the Real Housewives of New York Bobby Zarin/Simon Van Kempen thing that involves this blog, my goal is to stick to the blogs on the shows but I have to post this blog about it because it was written by my mentor and friend, Terry Aley. Terry explains the story of how we met (virtually) and how this blog got started. His perspective about the entire situation is outstanding and he has written it very extremely well. I hope you’ll all indulge me this once and take a moment to read it:
Terry, thanks for that and Q apologizes for spelling your name wrong! 🙂
Bethenny in Vancouver: cute!
Until Next Time…