I Hate Jill Zarin RHONJ Reunion Preview August 29, 2010

I Hate Jill Zarin     RHONJ Reunion Preview             August 29, 2010

Bravotv.com has released about 6 or 7 preview video’s of the reunion although 3 of them are flip cam video’s made by Andy Cohen during breaks in the taping.  I must say he earned that vacation that he just returned home from, he looked exhausted at it was only 3:00pm in one of the videos.

I think I can safely say that out of the four ladies (five if you count Kim G, who does make an appearance) Teresa Giudice makes the biggest fool of herself and shows just how low class and dirty she can really be.  She has the nerve to scream directly in Danielle’s face, push Andy Cohen down into his chair and scream at Andy to “get her ass back out here” when Danielle leaves the set. 

I don’t know who Teresa thinks she is talking to (or screaming at) but we’ve determined that Andy Cohen, like him or hate him, is considered a “boss” to the Real Housewives.  This came up during the last season of The Real Housewives of New York when Kelly Bensimon called him a liar, not only on camera during the reunion but on Twitter during a live airing of Watch What Happens Live. 

There seem to be no consequences for Bravo cast members for treating Andy Cohen like a trained lap dog, it is embarrassing for him.  I’m sure he makes enough money to compensate him for being treated like absolute shit on the air, but imagine his colleagues, peers and other network executive’s feelings about this man, he must be the laughingstock of the industry.  It is about time he demands some respect from these ladies. 

I think that many of us would like to see some consequences for this behavior because we all know that no one in the real world would get away with treating other people this way, whether it is a co-worker, boss or client. 

Most of us were outraged by Kelly calling Andy Cohen a liar, but Teresa physically pushing him down into a chair like she was tossing a rag doll aside is substantially worse.  Add to that Teresa screaming at Andy to “Get her ass back here” referring to Danielle.   Possibly there were consequences that we may never know about, but somehow I doubt it.  Apparently if you bring ratings into Bravo, you can abuse their VP of Programming all you want to.

With each of these incidents, I lose more and more respect for Andy Cohen, he is really becoming a sap and a whipping boy for the housewives.  Even Kathy Griffin, who is a much bigger personality than any housewife, shows Andy some respect.  Stars that don’t appear on Bravo show Andy respect, Ellen Barkin, Sarah Jessica Parker and Kelly Ripa all seem to adore him. 

I certainly hope that there is much more to the reunion that what we’ve seen in the few previews, if this reunion is simply three (sometimes four) ladies all yelling at and bombarding Danielle with insults, it may be entertaining for a few minutes, but two solid hours of it will become draining!

It’ll be interesting to see if Andy Cohen gives Danielle some time to speak, he certainly made everyone be quiet during the New York reunion in order to let Kelly speak, he even called them bullies because they wouldn’t be quiet long enough to let Kelly tell her side of the story.  We were forced to endure Kelly ranting on and making absolutely no sense for several minutes.  Kelly was allowed to interrupt Bethenny talking about Jill’s behavior only for Kelly to say, “It’s crazy!”  (Thanks for your input Kelly but I’d rather hear what Bethenny has to say)

In any case, Danielle deserves at least the same amount of respect as Kelly.   I am really hoping that Andy doesn’t allow constant berating and criticizing of Danielle without allowing her to speak.  I doubt that she’ll say anything interesting either, but she certainly deserves the right to speak. 

We see Caroline telling Danielle that she has physically threatened every member of the cast and she should be medicated.  Jacqueline is shown screaming at Danielle to “shut your mouth” and obviously Teresa screams at Danielle in almost every preview. 

I would like to hear Caroline’s explanation of her accusation that Danielle physically threatened everyone there and I certainly hope it isn’t going back to last season when Danielle says, “I’ll show up at your door and I won’t be alone”.  That was over a year ago and obviously it never happened, additionally Danielle explained that already at the last reunion, stating that she was “very angry”.  If Caroline took that seriously and is concerned for her safety, she is the one who needs medication and is obviously only bringing up last year’s nonsense because there isn’t anything from this season to point to.

Jacqueline seems to have a bit more self-control than her friend Teresa, but we do see her chasing Danielle off the set and Andy Cohen dragging her back, we also see Caroline gritting her teeth as she tells Danielle that she’s not allowed to mention Dina’s name.  Wow!  I hope Caroline didn’t expect to film all day without anyone mentioning her sister, and we all know that was never going to happen. 

These women may have more reasons than we know to be so infuriated by Danielle Staub but based on what we’ve seen on screen this season, it is out of line and obsessive.  I would really like it if some new information came out during the reunion that explained the excessive hatred for this woman.   The crime Danielle committed 25 years ago just doesn’t cut it anymore.  If Jacqueline spouts off Danielle’s list of criminal charges again, it will show just how desperate they are to have something on Danielle, anything at all because we’ve heard it at least 6 times this season from Jacqueline already.  Frankly, Jacqueline looks more idiotic with each ranting.  You can’t keep hanging your hat on something that happened so long ago, something that has been done and paid for especially since nothing like that has happened since.  It does seem that Danielle has learned her lesson and her criminal life is over.  I’m sure if there were more, it would have come out by now. 

Regardless of Caroline’s teeth gritting outrage, I’m sure we still don’t find out the real reason that Dina left the show at the reunion and I doubt Caroline will explain her hysterical outburst at Danielle from last year’s reunion.  It was obvious that they had to talk about Dina as she was part of the show this season, if even for just a few weeks.  (Personally, I didn’t miss her at all, but I wouldn’t have missed any of them) 

I have my theory, as I’m sure most of you do as well, I think that Dina leaving the show had absolutely nothing to do with Danielle, but it was a good way to turn Dina fans against Danielle even more than they already were.  I think that Bravo wasn’t happy with the lack of storyline there particularly since Dina’s daughter wasn’t allowed to be on the show.  Dina’s husband refused to be part of the show and so we’re left with Dina and her Zen Energist and her two cats.  Rumors are buzzing that Dina won’t be on next season either with or without Danielle if her daughter, Lexi won’t be allowed to film.  

Dina claims it was her choice to skip the Italy trip and that she refused to attend the reunion, I still hold firm with my belief that she was neither invited nor allowed to be at either event.  You don’t get to quit then return for benefits like a free trip to Italy and you don’t get to quit but return to have your say at the reunion either!  The way that Dina quit, blaming another cast mate really stuck it to Bravo by basically saying that they’ve put Dina in harm’s way by forcing her to film with Danielle.  I don’t think that anyone believes that Danielle is truly a physical threat to anyone, particularly since she seems to be the one who was physically assaulted this season and verbally abused by Teresa at the reunion.  Caroline managed to film all season without being in the same room with Danielle, why couldn’t Dina do the same?  Dina’s reason just doesn’t hold water. 

I’m not necessarily defending Danielle, I think her sex tape was an abomination, particularly since she has two young girls at home to explain it to, as well as adding to the horrible reputation she already had with fans.  What was she thinking?  Was there really that much money to be made on this tape?  I seriously do not get it. 

Speaking of the sex tape, I noticed that during one of Andy Cohen’s flip cam commentaries, he noted that he would be asking Danielle about the sex tape.  Another clue that he is treating New Jersey very differently from the New York cast. 

Jill Zarin wasn’t asked about Amazongate and at the time, I defended Andy saying that he was discussing only issues that occurred on screen and that was acceptable.  However, if he is going to bring up Danielle’s sex tape, why didn’t he bring up Jill writing her own review on Amazon?  Andy also said he was going to ask Jacqueline about some “mean tweets” and ask Teresa about her bankruptcy, all things that happened off screen.   There is no defending Andy Cohen when he is so unfair with his questions and topics that he chooses to discuss.

I don’t think we’ve ever had a season of a Real Housewives series with less drama, less events, or less excitement.  Did anything actually happen?   Two of the ladies gave birth, Danielle made a fool of herself at the Brownstone Charity event, Caroline’s son struggled with law school, Jacqueline’s daughter showed us just what an immature moron she is, (and continues to be) Teresa showed her true colors by being nasty to not only her number one enemy, Danielle, but showed her disdain for Caroline with her snide comments, late arrivals and rude behavior.  The trip to Italy was the only major event and it only served to show how American’s should NOT act when traveling to Europe. (please try not to scream “spank me Joe” while visiting other nations)

Off screen we learned just how much Teresa and Joe are in debt and their attitude’s and continued spending show that nothing will change in their behavior.  The contractors, vendors and hardworking people who got royally screwed by the Giudice’s will never see their money.  Teresa and Joe will continue to live in that big mansion with their four children having not paid for any of it and it is disgusting!  They knew as they were overspending that they could not afford it and there was no reason for it.  Did it really have to be imported marble and custom designed handrails?  It was all overdone for show so that they could brag about how much everything cost, yet they didn’t pay for the majority of it and never will. 

Wouldn’t we all like to build our dream house with hand chosen details and get it all for free?  Sure, but not at the expense of others who are working hard to make a living.  Teresa and Joe’s crimes far outweigh Danielle’s this season, in fact, they far outweigh any of the housewives if you add Teresa’s behavior in the press and at the reunion.  Her little stunt on her blog that “secretly” spelled out Fuck the Hater’s was disrespectful to not only fans of the Housewives, but to Bravo who gave her all of these opportunities.  Teresa’s most recent blog even wishes Danielle well, is she kidding?  Another idiotic housewife who thinks fans are stupid.  Sorry Teresa, you’re the stupid one!  Enjoy your “fresh start” at the expense of all of those contractors who may have to fold their business’s because of people like you!

I’m sure long after the reunion and lost footage episodes air, we will be watching Teresa’s bankruptcy unfold in the New Jersey courts, at some point in time, hopefully, she and Joe will have to answer to the lies that they included in their bankruptcy filing paperwork.  However, after watching how Joe Giudice got off basically scot free while driving drunk, I’m not holding out much hope.

Rumors also fly about Danielle losing custody of her 12 year old daughter Jillian, somehow I don’t see that happening for one reason.  I cannot see a judge splitting up the two sisters.  If Tom Staub were planning on filing to receive sole custody of Jillian, wouldn’t he file for both girls?  These two sisters have never lived apart and while we see them at odds sometimes on screen, we also see them loving one another.  They are the one constant in each other’s lives and I just can’t see anyone allowing them to be moved into two different homes. 

So I think the reunion shows are going to be shocking, jaw dropping and quite possibly infuriating!  Infuriating because based on what we’ve seen, Teresa not only gets away with screwing people out of money, but gets away with screaming in Danielle’s face and shoving Andy Cohen.  Personally, I think she needs to answer for her behavior!

You can view all of the Bravotv.com reunion previews here:

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-2/videos

Of course I’ll be blogging after the reunion, and we also have a guest blogger, Beth Donahue-Weedman who has guest blogged before with her strong feelings about Teresa Giudice and the other New Jersey ladies, so you’ll have two blogs full of NJ reunion rantings this week.  Just to prepare you in advance, Beth doesn’t hold back with her thoughts, feelings or language.  You can follow her on Twitter @bdonahueweedman

Until Next Time……

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616 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin RHONJ Reunion Preview August 29, 2010

  1. Squirrels says:

    If your guest blogger says one derogatory thing about mental retardation, I promise to rip her f’ing head off. No, I’m still not over her condescending manner.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      I have to agree with @ Squirrels – Teresa may have a lower than average IQ, a poor education, violent tendencies and no morals but there are many ways to discribe her without offending those who truly have disabilitites.

    • dumberries says:

      I don’t mind someone being extremely aggressive and explosive to make points about a simple show, because I can choose not to read it (I won’t be reading her next guest blog). But, I had to read the first guest blog in order to find that out, and the example Squirrels mentioned turned me completely off.

      • Dani says:

        Squirrels I will support you and help you rip her f’ing head off. There are many words to describe Teresa without resorting to using these words. Love you Squirrels for always speaking up for all of us that hate the use of those words.

    • truelifediva says:

      I got your back too, girl!

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Got your back, too Squirrels.

  2. Bobbi says:

    Lynn,

    Great preview! I wanted to make sure you know that each show is actually an hour and fifteen minutes. So, we’ll have only a half hour less than we did of #RHONY.

    I’ve wondered about Caroline’s statement regarding physical threats. Do you think she’s referring to the constant security presence and lowlife bodyguards Danielle had with her this season? It is a stretch but its the only thing I imagine.

    Lastly, I think Andy is discussing so much that happened off-screen because those really were the stories of the season. What would this season have been without the bankruptcy filing or the sex tape? I do hope that he grills them about all the things they constantly vaguely refer to Danielle having done. I’m so sick of this supposed list of grievances that they never delineate.

    Looking forward to all the blogs after the shows!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Now that you mention it – their off show antics were more noteworthy than their entire season. Between bankruptsy, assault, DUI, sex tapes and Ashley’s inability to stop her harrassment of Danielle there really isn’t much of interest that happened. We were treated to gaudy parties and christenings, births, too much driving to and from filler shots, body guards that talk to much and didn’t really do their job to well, scenes in too many public places and dysfunctional family gatherings. Now we have reunions that will be full of screaming accusations that won’t be backed up with facts, bullying that even Kelly would understand and Andy who can’t/won’t control the chaos. I have never been so ready for a season to be over! LOL

    • Sha2000 says:

      I’m looking forward to all our observations too. Can’t wait to grab some JuJu Bees (my favorite snack while watching RHONJ-insert your Kelly gummy bear comparison here, lol) & maybe crack open that Skinny Girl Margarita bottle that’s been waiting in the fridge, kick back & watch. The real fun will be here the next day though…thanks again for blogging Lynn!

    • Squirrels says:

      True re: the off camera antics being the real story. Still Lynn’s point is well taken by me. Why is Danielle’s sex tape (non hussy wife related) fair game, but Jill Zarin attacking the livelihood of A. Chandler off the table?

      Fair play anyone? Andy, it’s your serve.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Who’s A. Chandler ?

        I missed something.

        • Blue Sky says:

          Jill attacked her, as “susan saunders” & the whole amazon review mess. Jill/susan wrote a positive review of Jill’s piece of crap book. Chandler is a reviewer on amazon, she gave Jill’s book a bad review. Jill attacked her with an email, all kinds of stuff, it got nasty. Re “amazongate” that Jill recently admitted to…google it. Too much to cover here.

        • Squirrels says:

          You missed the A #1 reason we hate Jill Zarin. Beyond the let’s destroy my best friend, Bethenny’s livelihood. She went after someone who didn’t even know who Jill was, after sending her that book and asking her to review it. Zarin didn’t like the review and went after Ms. Chandler with a vengeance. Thanks to this blog and many others, she failed and got busted big time for fraud.

          That’s it in a nutshell.

          • Sha2000 says:

            Thanks. I did read the alleged faux review posted on Amazon, the reviewer that busted it; but I never remembered their name. Good or bad, JZ just doesn’t hold my attention, not on my radar; I’m here to hear the NJ dirt, way more fun & way dirtier.

          • But Jill hadn’t admitted she was Saunders when the last reunion was taped, had she? All that could be proven was that someone using that Amazon acct. apparently linked to Jill was basically using the right to free speech to be a beotch. Not excusing Jill’s behavior, which was a real lack of class. But in that category, I’m just saying a sex tape with Danielle obviously performing in it is on a different level of lack of class. Plus there’s never been any question that Danielle’s on camera.

    • I agree that Danielle’s and her scummy friend Danny’s comments were often too edgy; not only did she have bodyguards, but stated on camera that they had loaded guns. All in case what? Someone pulled Danielle’s hair? Danny was going to kick azz at that dinner for a sick child because Danielle’s uninvited entourage didn’t like the table they were offered? It was all staged for show, of course, but it eventually did get out of hand, as Ashley’s court date over hair-pulling proved. So I personally wouldn’t put up with the real threats of men carrying loaded guns. There’s nothing innocent about loaded guns.

      While I don’t believe any of them were stupid enough to actually pull a gun or attack, that’s when I would have drawn the line. At the time I thought if Bravo allowed that language for ratings, someone is losing their perspective. I did think Danielle was threatening the other women–mess with me and you will get really hurt. This is where Danielle’s background always comes back into play: her sex tape and constant references to her friends the thugs are no one’s fault but hers. I also think it puts her children in jeopardy being around her gun-toting, ex-con posse. But that’s just me.

  3. sss says:

    Teresa’s behavior (like Jill Zarin’s) is so over the top that I seriously questiom of she behaves as we see her when not filming for Bravo, in photoshoots, blogging, book siginign, TV interviews. etc.. Who in the real world — not the house wife world — throws over tables, dresses her daughters like kewpie dolls (the list is exhaustive for a number of these women)? These are not adult woman! Maybe they are just really really bad actresses? If this is not acting and it is her reality, that is very very scary. i have never known anyone like these ladies and I am dumbstruck. Seriously do you think they behaved as we see them before Bravo found them?

    • Unfortunately, I think Teresa is not acting. I actually think that want we see on the show is a constrained version of who she really is. I think this is her putting her “best foot forward”.

      I have a feeling Teresa is much worse in real life.

      • Sha2000 says:

        Well…$11 million in the hole when you only claim to make 79k per year does kind of point to an ” I don’t give a $h1t attitude”. However, she seems to be quite polite & nice on twitter.

        • Nice and polite?
          She’s FAKE
          All she does is retweet fans telling them how beautiful and wonderful they are and that everyone should buy her book.
          It’s probably not even her on twitter. She probably pays someone to sit there all day writing those nice face messages.

          • Sha2000 says:

            I don’t disagree w/you RCH, I said SEEMS nice. I think she is trying to retain what fans (fans = $$$) she has left after seeing her behavior this season (“is bitch better?” attitude) & reading about the debit accrued without trying to rein it in & an apparent lack of remorse.

        • Quincy IL says:

          Was the 79 K her Bravo and his work combined? Did Joe not work?

      • NOLAgirl says:

        I agree with you. Teresa is a prime example of “you can take the girl out of the ghetto but you can’t take the ghetto out of the girl”. I really feel bad for her kids. She is a total embarrassment to them. Money can’t buy you class. She is an angry, bitter, materialistic woman who needs mental help, a stylist and a financial planner.

        • kit says:

          I think she’s a compulsive shopper. Look at her in Italy. She’s already filed bankruptcy at this point and her husband is stressed out of his mind and and has repeatedly complained about money problems, even on the trip. Yet, there is Teresa manically running around like a chicken with no head, dragging the entire entourage around Naples desperate to buy buy buy! She only calmed down after she finally got her fix. She’s sick.

          • TLM says:

            Agreed with Kit & Nola. Teresa had to have that hideous glass ring, it seemed, just to say she bought something. And what was the “you forget I’m from Paterson” taunt to Danielle at the country club? She appears to be proud of being from the streets and threatening people. Wow, what class.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Don’t think it is an act on Teresa’s part – if anything, she toned it down some for the show – until this season and she was comfortable enough to let her freak flag fly!

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Teresa seems to me…..a big, dumb bottle-black haired bimbo with an abnormally large ego. What an idiot she is!

    • The thing about Teresa: if she’s acting, she should get an Emmy. I totally believe she’s that looney. Danielle, on the other hand, is so obviously acting that if she’s not, she can’t even appear real when she is being real. If you know what I mean….

  4. Scorpiosue1102 says:

    All of them just make themselves look like fools. Not much redeemable about any of them, but Teresa takes the cake. She is vulgar, violent, vacuous and vapid. Used all my “v” descriptive words in one go.:)

  5. Mama says:

    While watching Teresa’s hyper-sexual behavior towards her husband validates, for me at least, the possibility of the rumors swirling around (about Joe having girlfriends) being true. When a friend of mine suspected (correctly, as it turned out) that her husband was cheating on her she exhibited many of the same behaviors. I think they are trying to show their husbands that they can be as sexy and available as whatever the men may have on the side.

    Just an observation.

    Love the blog and I hate Jill Zarin too.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMO all the talking head stuff about chuckies and Joe’s sexuality and their frequency of intimate relations is aimed at whoever Joe has on the side….

        • dumberries says:

          Me too. Especially when she was going on and on about how Joe couldn’t keep his hands off of her during the end of her pregnancy. That was probably meant for the other woman: “I’m having his baby and he finds me irresistible!” Also may be why she demanded the big anniversary gift; “prove to me and her how much you love ME, Juicy”. Just speculation, but it would fit Teresa’s style…

        • twoile says:

          Ditto!

          • felony stupid says:

            Agreed.

            Here’s my thoughts on it. I don’t think she is saying all this stuff as a way to get J’s gf to go away necessarily, although she probably wouldn’t complain if that were the outcome. Rather, I suspect that T truly believes that infidelity is just something she is expected to deal with and while Joe having a gf on the side is not optimal, it is most certainly not a dealbreaker. IMO, T’s public declarations of sexytime and happiness w/Joe are her way of getting the msg to the gf that as the wife, she is still #1 in Joe’s life.

            • truelifediva says:

              My thoughts exactly. I had a friend in a similiar situation. While not as vulgar as Teresa, she felt that “men are men” and we all knew what every expensive purse, car and house upgrade meant. I think the mistress is tied to the 11mil also. Every time my friend got a gift, the skank did too. She eventually did find out about 1 long term mistress. Her husband had opened credit card accounts in the couples name for the chick on the side. The mistress had charged thousands to Victorias Secret, charged expensive tires and rims to the Amex card, etc. My friend knew nothing because the hubby “took care of everything”. I know I’m in the minority, but I don’t hate Teresa with a burning passion because I knew someone who innocently got caught up in a situation like that. And yes my friend confronted the mistress, pulled an Elin Woods on the hubby outside his sluts house, and as a result miscarried the baby she was carrying. They had two daughters and her husband had been wanting a son (her FIL said, “You aint a man until you have a son”) . That unborn child was a boy so EVERYBODY lost in that situation. I see too many shades of my friend in Teresa and I think a lot of her behaviour is an attempt to pretend things are great. She might be bragging on the outside, but she’s crying herself to sleep every night. This was not how life was supposed to be.

            • babykakes says:

              one would have to be pretty desperate to want to have an affair with Joe. he’s short, pudgy, so not attractive, gruff, rude & kind of dumb..the women in NJ
              have to be pretty hard up, or there is a severe shortage of men there! his ‘tool’ is most likely tiny as is his mentality..look who he married!

              • tuzentswurth says:

                There are probably plenty of women at least as dumb as T and let’s face it, when a man, no matter how undesirable, starts throwing big wads of cash, there is never a shortage of girlfriends. Without the money no one would give these guys a second look. Look at what Alexis Bellino sleeps with, KKB, etc. ewwww

              • BonBon says:

                But he’s so juicy…and WAS so very wealthy, too. I mean, give him about 12 inches in height and he’d come off as another Tony Soprano…at least on the outside. Who can resist such a succulent piece of pork as that?

      • Oh, interesting. Plus, that might explain why she needed a fertility clinic to get pregnant. Even though they couldn’t pay for it….

  6. I think Teresa is every bit as bad as Danielle, if not worse. I have not seen Danielle chase, harrass, curse or lay her hands on anyone. Nor has she asked anyone to meet with her just so she could demean and insult them- like Dina and Caroline did to her. The others go on and on about the awful things Danielle has supposedly done to them, but haven’t heard specifics or seen any proof. I don’t believe a word that comes out of their mouths.

    • Sha2000 says:

      Maybe shes just not stupid enough to do it on camera?

      • Squirrels says:

        Danielle is cunning, that’s for sure. I wouldn’t put it past her to pull stunts off camera, like planting rumors, spreading lies. But the notion she put her money where her mouth was by hiring a private eye spells “I mean business” to me. There is only so much a person can take.

        If the informer is correct and the Manzo’s/Giudices were followed, I would think it would inflame the non related clan even further. However, from what I’ve seen from the press, they are once again circling the wagons and downplaying the reunion episode. Except this time it may be because they realize they have no where to run v. standing on their high horses and calling Danielle a liar. A la Kats2 – Square Tit for Tat it is.

        • Sha2000 says:

          I’ve watched the Andy cam but not the previews; the best parts are always shown on the previews aren’t they? No spoilers for me, lol. What I did see was that Teresa & Danielle are very similar in their seemly smug-faux-sophisticated attitudes & and they both have very poor command of grammar (next lesson after you learn past & present tense will be two negatives make a positive Danielle). Both seem fake on many levels; they are more similar than they realize.

          • dumberries says:

            I’d have to say that I find Danielle to be a much a better communicator than Teresa. Both make errors in pronunciation and grammar, but Teresa has very limited focus and comprehension abilitiy, imo. That’s why she reacts so quickly – she doesn’t take time to put things in context. Danielle, however, listens and understand the context completely, and maintains composure (and throws in her digs) – think the country club fashion show and the showdown dinner. Imagine Teresa being out of favor with Caroline and being on the opposite side of the table. Don’t thinks she would have been able to hold her own in a heated conversation as Danielle did…

            • Sha2000 says:

              T definitely seems quicker to anger & losing composure.

            • Scorpiosue1102 says:

              I almost wonder that if the rumors are true that Danielle has been let go from the show it was done to cause drama between the other ladies. We’ve seen a bit of tension between Teresa and Caroline. If Danielle is out of the equation then it comes down to the MGL clan in fighting.

              Also, if they do bring back the other three I would guess we’d get two new housewives. You’d have to be crazy to get in with those vipers.

              • Squirrels says:

                Well, if it were not for Teresa, Danielle would have no dog in the fight. Still, in interviews Caroline defends her. My guess? She still has the power in numbers mentality rattling around in her head. Frankly, it’s all that gang has left.

              • Katie says:

                I would bet money that Bravo will say she is not coming back for season 3 and then bring her back as a special guest star. Manzo and co better hope they bring d back not only bacause they are boring but they will start to turn on each other like Lord of the Flies. ( I hope Kelly isn’t reading this for she will be perplexed by a reference to a book that isn’t the bikini book.) See Kelly you have taught me to write like Shakespeare. For I am done with this post.

            • lillybee says:

              That table would have been tossed.

          • tuzentswurth says:

            ..two negatives make a positive……drives me nuts I tell ya. These woman don’t know nothin………….. lol sha200

        • I would think if Danielle was stalking, following them, spreading rumors, etc. there would be some proof. They all have digital cameras, camera phones, and such- no one can get a pic of her following them or driving by their homes? No one could have secretly recorded her telling them rumors? And now hearing she hired a PI to follow and investigate them, perhaps the so called rumors are true and that’s why the clan doesn’t want to be specific when refuting the so called rumors?

          • Sha2000 says:

            I remember reading (I think it was in the comments of the last blog) a link that said D’s been seen driving w/people & pointing to one of the other HW homes….aka the “drive by”. Creepy yes, but not a crime.

          • Kansas Girl says:

            Wasn’t it in a WWHL where Dina said Danielle told the people in the grocery store that Dina had broken all the windows out of her car the night before? This was offered as an example of the things Danielle was doing, and then Dina said “and worse”.

            Since hearing that, I’ve spent time wondering how one lives in a community where some crazy person is spreading rumors like that. I would think that if enough stories are tossed out, eventually some of them would stick — get passed on and be taken as true. (I’ve even wondered if Joe’s girlfriend could be a rumor started by Danielle. Except that it seems so believable.) I’ve figured their anger was just over the mass of rumors that the community started to believe and that they find themselves fighting all those stories.

            • dumberries says:

              It’s possible. But, early last month the link to comments on NJ.com was posted here. The comments were from locals before the show aired (2007)- people who knew the cast. There were tons of negative comments that were easily about the Manzos and Giudices (almost all of them turned out to be true: affiliations with corrupt public officers, excessive overspending, late night drinking…). Seems like the M&Gs have been the subject of widespread gossip for years….

            • Quincy IL says:

              Teresa told the story and she was accused of damaging Danielle’s car.

    • I agree ROH
      I think Teresa is WORSE than Danielle. But she has a family behind her and Joe by her side. If you took all that away and threw her out on her own with no money and no family, and said: “survive” what do you think she would do?
      I wouldn’t put it past her to pistol whip someone if it would get her some easy cash.

      • We’ve had front row seats to witness Teresa losing control and lashing out. And that’s just what we’ve seen on camera. I have to believe she is even worse off camera.

        • IMJ says:

          I think T has alot of pint up anger issues with her husband and her marriage and she takes them out on others (i.e. Danielle). If you have been cheated on, you tend to single out mistresses especially.

          • OneMoreinBoston says:

            But Danielle was cheated on. And her husband left her for the mistress, who is now pregnant.

            Theresa BLAMED Danielle for it. So who’s to blame for Juicy stepping out on her?

            BTW I gave Danielle a pass for flaunting the engagement ring and her bizarro behavior towards the ex at the Sweet 16 party. The new wife was obviously preggers, and younger than Danielle. It couldn’t have been easy.

          • siennarose says:

            Did you ever think that maybe Joe & Danielle have been hittin the sheets? Maybe that is why Danielle is not comin back on the show?

  7. WindyCityWondering says:

    Thanks Lynn for the pre reunion smackdown blog. We are all waiting to see just how off the hook these monsters get tomorrow. The previews are exhausting – the screaming, posturing and bad manners indicated the carnage to come.
    I am interested in Jacq’s behavior – how can she continue to throw Danielle’s past up when her darling daughter is on the fast track to her own criminal career. She says she isn’t responsible for Ashley’s behavior because she is an adult and then compares what each did – apples to oranges. What if it had been Danielle that pulled someone’s hair? Imagine what we would have to endure listening to then!

    • Sha2000 says:

      “What if it had been Danielle that pulled someone’s hair? Imagine what we would have to endure listening to then!”

      What if Andy presses charges for being pushed? Same as the hair pulling in my book.

      • Squirrels says:

        Well, it appears Danielle had a good reason to run from the country club, eh? Teresa brought this on herself. Nice job.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          Totally Teresa’s doing – she should have been charged with inciting a riot and sued for damaging the country club – opps she ain’t got no moneeeey!

  8. Squirrels says:

    In the finale episode, Danielle mentions she is not that person who cowered in horror on the sofa as Caroline called her “garbage.” I think Danielle got blind sided that fateful reunion day and payback is a bigger bitch than she. If the Manzo’s et al got investigated on her dime, so be it. Frankly, I believe they brought it on themselves with their antagonize by numbers technique. This gang may now discover that no matter how much you scream, it doesn’t give you the win, it just changes the game.

    • dumberries says:

      Danielle’s investigation may explain her “what about all of your friends getting indicted” statement, and Caroline’s stunned reaction at the clown dinner. Everybody knew about the Bernie K stuff, I believe it was publicized even during that filming – maybe Danielle’s investigator turned up something completely different. Caroline looked completely caught off-guard to me…

      • “at the clown dinner”

        Lmfao!

      • Squirrels says:

        Could also be why Teresa said Caroline’s eyes were as red as her hair. The gloves came off and there was no where to hide. I figured she must have cried and then composed herself on the drive back to the Brownstone, but didn’t quite get why, except to speculate it was because mission was not accomplished. Now? The plot thickens.

      • Quincy IL says:

        Joe was indited on forgery. Maybe, she was referring to Joe and Bernie.

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Caroline did look like somebody threw a bucket of cold water on her, she was stunned for a moment after that statement about the indictments and she didn’t ask “what are you talking about?” or anything like that. Just stunned, then moving on. Similar to the clown comeback….don’t think she saw that coming either.

    • kit says:

      Plus, didn’t Caroline have Danielle investigated in season 1? I remember her saying to camera that she needed to have people ‘checked out’ if they are going to be around her fably…or words to that effect. That’s how she discovered the book, no? So, Caroline doesn’t really have any right to bitch about her being investigated if Danielle did do that.

  9. Dre says:

    This season truly bored me. Teresa is easily the worst person on the show (and that says something.) I only give that award to Teresa because of how FAKE she is. All of her grandstanding in season one about how fabulously wealthy she is, the loving warm family mother image she tried to portray, it’s all BS. She was living beyond her means even then! It’s not like her family was making a lot of money then, they were just pretending that they were. To top all of this off, her behavior at the reunion (judging from the previews) was repulsive. That’s not how ANYONE should act. How can Teresa sit there and toss accusations at Danielle about how she’s crazy, when she acts like a wild gorilla? This is a woman that needs a reality check. Sadly, I think she’s so deluded she’ll never see herself for what she really is.

  10. Sha2000 says:

    Kim tweeted today:

    “….learn how to walk in those “bad” Pay Less boots …”

    Nasty yes but I still say shes funny.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Is Kim actually tweeting with either Danielle or Teresa or is she just throwing this stuff out there?

      • Sha2000 says:

        I’m not that Twitter savvy, but it looks (no @ Guidice) to me like she’s just tweeting to whomever will read it.

        • Sha2000 says:

          (It’s shameful to me that I know how to spell Guidice & pronounce it not one but two ways…I need to “get a hobby”)

  11. WindyCityWondering says:

    A PI keeps getting mentioned – I thought Danille had one to find her birth mom. So she had another one following the Manzo/Guidice/Laurita families? If so, then I have to guess they have been doing things they don’t want anyone to know about….and the hostility is because they think Danielle is going to put their business in the street. What has really been bothering me is what the hell is that thing that Danielle pulls out of her bag????

    • dumberries says:

      Windy, I thought the guesses about the bag contents the other day were hysterical. I don’t remember the posters, but here as some of possibilities:
      1. The ripped out extensions (I personally agree with this one)
      2. Danny’s head
      3. NeNe’s bra
      4. Teresa’s forehead

      • OneMoreinBoston says:

        5.Jill’s integrity?
        6. Dina’s honesty?
        7. Juicy’s sobriety?
        8. Teresa’s self respect?
        9. Miss Andy’s professional reputation?

        And my personal fave:
        10. Tara?

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          lol, Danielle scalped Joe’s on the side action – now what is Teresa going to do???

      • truelifediva says:

        You mean the unused, leftover hair that Danielle is claiming was ripped out of her head? See, that’s one of the things that keep me off the Danielle fan club. She’ll have a good point and then she fucks it up by distorting it with lies. Yes, her hair was pulled, but that large handfull she held up in her talking head did NOT come from the assault. She would have been more believable if she wore a neck brace and claimed whiplash/spinal injuries. That clump of hair would have been accompanied with scalp attached, blood, and the need for stitches. liar liar pants on fire!

      • truelifediva says:

        That bundle of hair Danielle held up in her talking head was NOT ripped out of her head! I wish people would see it for the lie that it is. That is unused extension hair and if that much had been ripped out it would have had a chunk of scalp and blood attached. Danielle would have needed surgery to close the wound. A better lie would have been whiplash and Danielle could have worn a neck brace for months and sobbed in pain about her “soft tissue” injury. Danielle not only lies, she tells weak lies. Hard for me to feel her plight. I’m kinda “meh” on the others but Danielle makes me want to say, “Bitch, please!”

        • dumberries says:

          Agreed it was a an exaggerated prop for the talking head piece. We’re just guessing at what she will CLAIM is in the bag at the reunion…

        • emt2 says:

          Obviously the piece she took out of her bag was fake and used as a theatrical prop but Ashley definitely did pull out some of her extensions/fusions and Kim G found pieces on the ground at the country club.

          Getting your weave pulled hurts and Ashley should have been charged bc you know she wanted to do something worse and now she knows not to touch people, at all, hair pulling or not.

    • Quincy IL says:

      My uncle worked for Wackenhut as a Private Detective and then had his own small agency. They charge quite a bit for surveillence and investigation because it is dangerous. Where did Danielle get all of her money? She is close to the end of her alimony. She doesn’t get that much from the show. She even purchased a condo. She’s rolling in dough if you look at her spending. She has personal security and drivers. That stuff is expensive.

      • babykakes says:

        prostitution whore! hahahahahahahha

      • emt2 says:

        It’s called free publicity. Everyone does it on every show.

        She got her botox shots/breasts redone for free (just like all the other ladies on each franchise who get any plastic surgery done).

        Kim G was helping her private security in exchange for airtime.

        Danny was helping her with security and drivers in exchange for airtime.

        She did write and sell a book and she was paid for it. She got money from the sex tape. And she finally bought a condo. Good for her.

        Danielle is a prostitution whore just like Bethenny, Jill, NeNe, Ramona, Alex and Simon and everyone else who appears on a reality tv show and gets paid in kind for exposure for services.

  12. boston02127 says:

    I’m bringing this link over from the last blog. As a matter of fact, I may bring it everywhere I go.

    http://absurdtosublime.net/2010/08/29/new-jersey-housewives-reunion-spoiler-whos-tara/

    Thanks Squirrels.

    • dumberries says:

      Thanks for reposting Boston. I’m glad to see that the article has been edited in the last couple of hours. The first version speculated that Ramona Singer was drunk when she tweeted that Tamra had been out with Joe before his crash – the writer insinuated that Ramona meant to say “Tara”. That was stupid unfounded speculation – Tamra was indeed with the MLGs earlier that night and Ramona wouldn’t waste her time prying into Joe’s extramarital capers. Ramona meant exactly what she tweeted. I’m so glad that deceitful part of the article was removed (because otherwise, I LOVE this article too!).

    • Sha2000 says:

      RCH commented on that piece :

      “August 29, 2010 at 11:52 AM

      Jacqueline told me that Teresa said “bring up my family” not “break”. I also heard “break” in the previews, but Jac is saying no. She may be lying, but it would be a stupid lie to tell knowing that we are going to hear the truth either tomorrow or next week.
      I guess we’ll find out soon enough.”

      I agree. On a second listen I heard “bring” too. T sounds very incoherent when she’s upset & screaming. I’ve rewound the table flip sever times & still don’t know what she said beyond the infamous (& redundant, lol) “prostitution whore” insult.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Guess I don’t have Jersey ears because I heard “break” up the first time and every time after that!

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Someone came up with “destitution whore” for Teresa a while back, still LMFAO.

  13. boston02127 says:

    Thank you for the new blog Lynn. I think the reason Dina quit is because she’s lazy. Straight out just a lazy boring person.

    About Jacqueline spouting off about Danielle on twitter. Odd that during the table flipping episode Jacqueline was hell bent on defending Danielle. Even to the point of fighting with her own family. Jacqueline knew about Danielle’s past at that point and at the time she defended her. She didn’t have a problem keeping Danielle as a friend back then. Now Jacqueline puts on this holier than thou act.

    • felony stupid says:

      Boston – I totally agree with you. I think Dina is completely lazy and just wants everyone to gather around her and admire her. I get the feeling that she has always been the “pretty” Laurita and that she is used to being the center of attention with little or no effort. When she found herself a 2nd tier bit player on this show, who would actually have to put in some effort for camera time, she walked.

      Kind of a tangent…but a Dina tangent…another thing I’ve always thought but I have no proof of – I think Caroline pushed her to marry Tommy so that she and Lexi would be financial secure. That is why, IMO, Dina doesn’t seem too upset on either the Millionaire Wedding show or RHoNJ that Tommy both cheated on her multiple times and isn’t interested in interacting with her on camera. I don’t think she’s all that interested in him either but by just keeping her mouth shut, she keeps her and Lexi in Louis Vuitton and Prada.

    • tuzentswurth says:

      I agree with you both. After hearing that Jac has some scrappy-do street fighting assault history and then seeing her low-class behavior at the country club, I don’t think she is so ladylike either. Her running (lumbering actually) after Danielle shouting about 25 yr old crimes and then standing with that nasty stare on her face outside of Danielle’s car showed her to be as classless as the rest of them. Wow, scum with money (or in T’s case, without money).

  14. anniieee says:

    I can’t stand any of the New Jersey Housewives. Low-no class..an embarrassment to any rational member of their family (are there any) and an embarrassment to the state of New Jersey. I am sick of “we are ticker dan tieves” Caroline–ignorant Jac O chin lantern and her spawn of satan, Chewy and Juicy–no class low class thieves, and Danielle…she paid her dues as a kid–but behaves in a way as an adult that is humiliating for her children. Keep your stuff behind closed doors!! I will be glad it is over and all I can say to the lot of the is….KARMA IS A BITCH!!

    • anniieee says:

      Oh puleeeezeee… $30,000 an episode…. That’s what first year teachers get. And they have to have an education. Our values are screwed up.

      • twoile says:

        Ditto! ?& some how we R contributing 2 this mentality as well by watching blogging etc =guilty pleasure !!!!!

    • icantstandthetoxicity says:

      They are not going to make as much as Snooki. The Jersey Shore has over 5 million viewers, RHONY’s ratings don’t come close to that. I think the RHONY cast deserves a raise but they are living in a fantasy world if they think they will get “Snooki money”.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      1. RHONY doesn’t pull in the ratings compared to Snooki’s show. Different demos, different networks. Apples and oranges.

      2. If any of them are asking for sympathy from the public…..go fish. It’s insulting to actual working folks who are using their incomes (sometimes more than one job) just to feed, clothe and house their families. No houses in the Hamptons, no ritzy vacays, no freebies from designers, etc.

      3. Who’s the idiot playing the pity card and behind this story? Any guesses? *cough* Can’t flash conspicuous consumption, their “fabulous” lifestyles and then cry “poor me.” Bullshit. From the article it says reps for Sonja, Ramona, Lulu, & Bethenny didn’t get back to them. Alex’s rep did. They have a direct quote from Kiki. Who did they leave out as not getting back to them or giving them a direct quote? But they made sure to plug. There’s your source. Foghorn & Co.

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Since Bravo has viewers for any RH show they do, it shouldn’t take a genius to figure out that they could drop any one of the housewives, bring in the next cheap hire, and move on. Really, we’ll find entertainment from someone else, I’m sure.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      One commenter said:

      “I do feel sorry for LuAnn though. She had such a promising career as an equestrian athlete. The only problem is that with her attitude they always have trouble getting the bridle and saddle on her. Hopefully they’ll find someone willing to ride her soon. Her best offer right now is to pull the wagon at a hayride this fall.” LMAO!

    • Wow, does Jill have a new set of pearly whites? Caps? I don’t remember her teeth being that perfect or that white…?

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Reminds me of the Cheshire Cat grin. Imagine the rest of her disappearing and only the grin remaining.

        I suspect foghorn’s been doing subtle things to try to improve her appearance. At least it looks like that from the pics.

  15. anniieee says:

    lot of *them*

  16. kats2 says:

    I also wonder what that creepy Steve guy (friend of the Giudice’s and briefly dated Danielle) shared with Danielle (besides the obvious STD’s) about the Giudice Happy Marriage. I bet that guy is a fame whore too and could be bought. Let’s see if he’s on Twitter. . . . .

    • Squirrels says:

      EWWWWW! STD’s.

      lmao

    • felony stupid says:

      Interesting thought Kats…pls keep us posted!!! I’m awful on twitter and rely on you and the other twitter masters here to keep me safely informed. 🙂

    • truelifediva says:

      As sweaty and greasy as he looked on tv, I doubt it would take much to buy him off. He did claim to have loaned Danielle money. She claims he was disgusting. I think she discovered her disgust once his little 27yr old money ran out….(not that I believe his bald ass is a day under 40)

  17. Blue Sky says:

    Gotta hand it to Danielle, she knows how to get them where it going to hurt! It may be really frustrating at the reunion, if D doesn’t tell everything she found out. Remember she said something like “I’m going to leave you wanting even more of (or from?) me” in one post reunion interview. Hmm, maybe she has plans to do a “tell all” book, now that she’s off the show. Could be her plan to make more $. Paybacks a bitch, eh MLG gang!

    **I think that thing she pulls out of the bag is a black wig/extension hair piece that Teresa uses to make her hair look thicker. It’s the right color, and Teresa is always bragging about “it’s all my hair, really!”

    • Sha2000 says:

      I’m sure Bravo, will edit a lot of the juicy hearsay out : (

      • Squirrels says:

        TOO LATE!!!! muhaaahhhh….

      • dumberries says:

        I hope not Sha2000, but I fear they may edit out the juicy details too. I think they owe it to the viewers to keep it all in. Bravo allowed Danielle’s secrets to be aired last season, and they focused this season around a feud without ever letting us in on what the feud is really about. It’s time to put all the cards on the table…

        • Sha2000 says:

          “It’s time to put all the cards on the table…’

          I bet they show us an interview w/Ben Weiner than all the cards.

          • dumberries says:

            LOL… Now, that would be infuriating. I might have to flip a table myself…

          • Blue Sky says:

            Speaking of Ben Weiner…is it me or is Andy’s fascination with that boy creepy or what?? Andy better keep that kid off tv, it really got annoying listening to the kid’s comments, & the way Andy slobbered all over him. Yech!

            • dumberries says:

              It’s not you Blue Sky. It’s weird…

            • Di says:

              I couldn’t agree more. I flipped away from WWHL everytime little Ben came on (after I heard Andy talk to him the first time). It was disturbing to hear a drunk Andy gushing about his love for this kid. I would never dream of letting my 12 yr old step daughter watch the HWs with me, let alone call drunk Andy to discuss it on national tv wayyy past bedtime!

              Where are Ben’s parents and why would Bravo think it’s ok for this kid to call in?

  18. boston02127 says:

    @kats2–I think his last name is Zalewski.

  19. LynnNChicago says:

    I was just told about a web site that is great for people who are outside of the US, I know that Bravotv.com blocks Canadian viewers but I was told that

    Sidereel.com has a download that will allow you to view them! I’m sorry that I don’t remember who posted here saying that they couldn’t watch the video’s but I hope this helps!

  20. Adgirl says:

    Amazongate vs Sextape.
    I think the difference here for Andy is Jill claims “I didn’t do it”, “someone hacked into my account”, “I’m not Susan Saunders (!)” etc. Thereby making it a gossip & legal issue for Andy to bring up (Slander). Lawyers and PR team on speed dial!

    Danielle doesn’t deny that she is starring in the sex tape and because she herself released it wasn’t stolen and distributed without her knowledge.

    Danielle’s motives? She is obviously a broken person. I feel (mostly) sorry for her. Her motives are unfathomable because her thinking is convoluted. And she is dangerous to herself and others. Hope the kids dad takes custody of them with generous visitation for Danielle.

    • truelifediva says:

      Actually Danielle did claim it was released without her consent and claimed “she couldn’t do anything about it” as the reason she didn’t sic her team of lawyers on the mystery man in the video. I’m not good at posting links but it sounded very flimsy to me at the time.
      For all of Danielle’s “Karma” talk, I find it funny that her ex is taking her baby away. Yeah, that’s a bitch aint it? She tried to start some shit by suggesting to Dina’s ex that something illegal went down regarding Lexi (hoping dirt would be uncovered) and FAILED. She wished ill will on Dina and now her ex is taking HER daughter away from her. Should have left well enough alone. 🙂

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Wasn’t all that Dina and custody business rumor and innuendo? That was a story that circulated but never really got off the ground
        IIRC.

    • Yeah, that’s what I was thinking, too. Well said.

      • Adgirl says:

        Weren’t there 2 tapes? First was released “without her consent” and the other she promoted?

        • Danielle claimed in at least one interview that she was, “blackmailed”-ie:forced, to release her sex-video.
          Really? So, she spent all that energy & time prosecuting Ashley for pulling her hair, yet the people who supposedly molested her when she was a baby & child, and people who allegedly blackmailed her into profiting from a sex-video no prosecution?

          I’m not picking sides though-I don’t think I like any of them very much.

          Danielle also says that she has a big, “surprise”, person with her at the reunion. We know she has her singing partner, but I’m wondering if that’s who it is.

    • emt2 says:

      Why does everyone think that Danielle’s ex wants custody? I don’t believe this at all. Not for one second. He just got remarried last year and his new wife is pregnant/just had a new baby. Does he even live in Jersey? I don’t believe it, at all.

      I don’t think that Danielle wished ill on Dina and wanted her ex to get custody of Lexie. That doesn’t make sense either.

  21. Tam5115 says:

    Can you smell the excrement? er, excitement?

    If Danielle did have an investigator dig up some dirt on the “mob” and she starts spilling it at the reunion… this is gonna be goooood!

  22. dumberries says:

    Posted this on Friday night. Interesting interview with Danielle, especially in light of today’s articles about Tara.
    http://video.tvguide.com/Access+Hollywood/Danielle+Staub+On+The+Fiery+Real+Housewives+Reunion/6329407?autoplay=true

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Interesting. People are “shocked” and “shamed” makes me want to watch what the heck happens. Another thing, why does Danielle sound more articulate in this interview? Or is it just me?

    • emt2 says:

      Danielle was very articulate and she looks softer. Maybe she has found a little happiness in her life?

      I agree when she that she is vilified by the others because of their refusal to deal with their own problems.

      OT, Billy Bush is a tool and the WORST interviewer I have ever seen. lol

  23. Kansas Girl says:

    My first, and off-and-on continuing impression of Andy is that he’s rather a doofus. He seems like a happy-go-lucky party boy who likes to drink. His interview style is to ask the simple questions and not follow through. Etc. However, just when I get to thinking that, I remember or read another statement by him on something related to these shows that actually sounds like an intelligent network executive. For example, fairly recently there was a statement by him in one of the interviews someone linked to here where he said these shows are a fascinating social experiment and that the idea is to turn cameras on people and then watch what develops, and that it’s astounding that people behave in totally unexpected ways. Each time I read one of these statements, I revise my opinion of Andy. I think there may be some substance behind his boyish behavior!

    It also seems to me that he is gradually learning how to interview better. The earliest reunions were not very enlightening. Now I wonder if he learned from the last NY reunion that we all want him to ask about things that happen outside the show, so he’s included those topics. He also is learning how to control his interviewees somewhat better (i.e. making the NY ladies be quiet so Kelly could speak), so his getting shoved is a new experience for him to figure out.

    I find Andy fascinating!

    • Had Enough! says:

      If I had to spend 8 hours with Teresa OR Danielle, much less the both of them, I’d be drinking, too. I am guessing Andy’s got a case of SGM hidden on the set somewhere.

    • emt2 says:

      I find Andy infuriating and the complete opposite of fascinating. His double standards, his inconsistencies, his blatant favoritism, his dumb jokes, his dumb WWHL, his shit eating grin, his dislike for women except for SJP, his disturbing obsession with a middle school aged boy, etc.

      I mean, he should stick to being an executive and stop trying to compete with the ladies for face time. He is not THE star.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Andy actually has a legit news background.

      • Di says:

        Interesting. I wouldn’t have guessed that since since he can’t conduct a interview to save his life!

        • emt2 says:

          i know! i think that being in reality tv has rotted his brain!

        • Need a Hobby says:

          He was a producer at one of the networks news ops….CBS? Can’t remember. His bio’s around on the net. His job wasn’t in front of the camera as I recall.

          His Bravo interviews on WWHL are mainly about marketing. Not to really grill the bravolebrities. Reunion shows feature viewers’ questions and he’s the circus ringmaster, or trying to be. Must be like trying to herd cats. Even so, he’s not going to go all 60 minutes, Mike Wallace on them.

  24. dumberries says:

    And here’s the Access Hollywood interview with Caroline and Teresa from yesterday (hadn’t seen it before)
    WindyCityWondering: the host asks them about the hairy thing in Danielle’s bag…

    http://www.accesshollywood.com/real-housewives-feud-danielle-staub-vs-everyone_video_1246304

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      the turnpike tantrum queens – loved it! still am not sure why that hair in the bag meant…..

      • dumberries says:

        I loved Caroline getting all uptight when the interviewer suggested that Caroline had apologized to Danielle on her blog. Caroline sure talked in circles in response. Still, don’t understand her point…

  25. emt2 says:

    Hi Duchess of Dryer Lint! I’m good. Thanks for asking! How are you doing?

    I love your name, by the way. lol I did laundry for my parents yesterday so I feel your pain. lol

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      I am good! Today I am definately the Laundry Queen–5 loads down, 2 to go. Scrubbed the entire house yesterday, top to bottom and uncovered some hidden stashes (!?) of t-shirts and winter jackets. Decided to just get it all done and hung up–then tomorrow I will feel veeerrrry validated to just sit and watch TV aaaalllll day! 🙂 And I made a strawberry shortcake today, so in just a little while I shall be in sugar heaven! Yummmm!

      • emt2 says:

        That’s so funny that you made a strawberry shortcake! I love that dessert. I made my mom and dad an angel’s food cake with berries (blueberries, raspberries, etc.) because my mom can’t have a lot of sugar, especially bad bad, so I checked my diabetic cookbook for desserts and found the angel’s food cake.

        Maybe I’ll make a low-sugar/low-fat strawberry shortcake next weekend for my parents. Yum… my mouth is watering!

  26. emt2 says:

    Throw back pictures of the NJ ladies. Brace yourself. Jacqueline looks…different.

    http://www.realitytea.com/2010/08/29/photos-the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey-before-they-were-famous/#more-16778

    • dumberries says:

      Thanks for the fun link emt2!
      I’m amazed out how different Jac looks in the photos – so much face work.
      Al looks cute with hair (and without it; he seems nice to me).
      I was shocked at the picture of Teresa with her brother when they were kids; Gia looks identical to her mom, uncanny…

      • emt2 says:

        yeah. it’s kinda creepy how much they look alike. it’s like something out of a horror movie or something. like children of the corn or the omen or something like that. lol

      • Quincy IL says:

        Holy cow! She really has done work on her face. How did she afford all of that? I thought she cried because she was so poor and it was so hard to put food on the table.

        • tuzentswurth says:

          IMO Jac took way too much off her nose. It looks so obvious b/c it is so small now and it makes the rest of her face look huge and unbalanced. I spotted that bad nose-job right away.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Dina looks different too – and as for our skinny italian – she has definately put on some poundage – what the hell kind of recipes is she pushing???

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Anyone could eat loads of Italian food and stay trim and fit IF you walk up and down steep hills all day. If you sit on the couch till you walk out to the SUV, not gonna work.

    • AZ Girl says:

      This is amazing. Gia is Teresa’s clone. Al looks so hansom and happy in all the pictures. Obviously he is different than what they edit on the show. He seems much more laid back in real life.

  27. majnon says:

    Thanks Lynn for all the blogs. I, like many found you a few months ago while typing in “I hate Jill Zarin” and have been reading and enjoying all the blogs and comments. Since I have never posted anything online before I was a little scared to join in.
    Well, I figured I have something to say, so here goes.
    I watched the second season of NJ and have a few observations about Danielle and her behavior She is still the one that irritates me the most. Her interviews during the show make me think she is a little off her rocker. While I don’t think Teresa’s actions are by any means stellar, Danielle seems to have a way of goading them all. Let me give you an example of something that happened to me that seems similar.
    I worked for a small local company and the owners were two women who worked there everyday. At first everything was fine, until I watched how they treated the young girls that worked there and how they talked behind different customers backs. They were rude, judgemental and sometimes didn’t hold back even to the customers faces. I started to speak up about it, and life became hell. They would describe my behavior as equally horrible. The point I’m trying to make is I sank to their level, and I became just as miserable. I was unable to rise above the crap, so I quit. I know that made them happy, in fact, I’m sure that’s what they intended.
    I don’t think any of the NJHW’s know how to let it go and move on. It took me awhile, but I finally was able to let it go.
    I hope I can figure out how to post this. Thanks again Lynn for doing this blog.

    • dumberries says:

      Welcome majnon! Good observations; sometimes it’s hard to pull yourself back up when you sink to someone else’s level. What bothers me most about the Manzos and Giudices is how they continuously bring up Danielle’s old criminal acts and associates. Meanwhile, they associate with corrupt officials, drunk drive, default on payments owed… They didn’t have to step too far down to sink to Danielle’s level, imo. But, I totally agree with you, Danielle is off her rocker in many ways! Teresa too!

    • Di says:

      Hi Majnon, welcome. I really liked your post! I agree about Danielle, but I find all the NJ HWs (and Ashley) really morally and socially challenged in their own unique ways.

      I agree it’s always best if you can rid yourself of toxic people in your own life. It’s so easy to get sucked into their negativity if you don’t just run the other way.

    • boston02127 says:

      @majnon –Welcome! 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Hi Majnon – looking forward to your take on the reunions too!

  28. boston02127 says:

    Jill’s tweet: @ @McDonaldHeather and Lonny love on e red carpet! Ladies looking hot! Sorry I couldn’t be with u. Ally left yesterday.

    Jill acts as if she was invited to the Emmy Awards.

    • felony stupid says:

      Why does Jill have a such a hard-on for the Chelsea Lately comedians? I can assure here these folks (as funny as some of them are) are not her ticket to the big time.

      Oh Jillie…so misguided.

    • Squirrels says:

      I invited Jill to my bill’s are due envelope opening. I know she would have attended but for the fact I don’t have enough followers on Twitter.

      I cried into my pillow all night.

    • truelifediva says:

      Heather McDonald is not an “A” list celeb. Didn’t she mock Danielle in a skit on Chelsea Lately?

  29. boston02127 says:

    Caroline’s tweet: guess what?! I’ve been asked 2 write a weekly column answering all of YOUR questions on kids, family, food, love,… http://fb.me/vd8WfSYp

    Wonder who asked?

      • Sha2000 says:

        As one there poster said, “I thought they were so rich”…why do the need more $$$$?

        • tuzentswurth says:

          Really, we’ve all seen enough of these current casts. Dump them all and start anew. They get phonier as the seasons go on.

      • dumberries says:

        She is lucky if she even gets to come back. Kelly too. They both have more money than most people make in a lifetime. If Bravo/Shed give either of these two lame-brained fame mongers a raise, it will be a huge mistake. They have earned the right to grovel only; not to be financially rewarded. I hope Bravo tells them not to let the door hit them on the way out…

      • Need a Hobby says:

        NY Mag IMO correctly identified the Foghorn as the one behind the NY Post article.

        Here’s the clues (besides knowing how Foghorn plants items in the NY press): The NY Post article says reps for Sonja, Ramona, Lulu, & Bethenny didn’t get back to them. Alex’s rep did. They have a direct quote from Kiki.

        Who did the Post not mention as not getting back to them or cite a direct quote from? Who did the Post make sure to plug, mentioning her appearance on Animal Planet and giving her a photo in the article? There’s your source. Foghorn & Co.

        This after the rumored hand slap over the previous NY Daily News article and the tweeted filming pics? Keep “exploring other options” to flog your upcoming bedding line. You may need them. Prediction: no way is she going to turn down an opportunity to appear before the cameras, however much she has to use Bawby’s money to keep her mug before the public all year round.

        (I know she’s been chumming up to E’s talent for a purpose. But don’t know if there’s anything there for her. I instead keep expecting her to show up on Tru TV’s Smoking Gun’s “Dumbest” series that features other D Listers like Tonya Harding, etc.)

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          maybe Bravo should just show Jill and Kelly the numerous blog posts that say they won’t watch the show if they came back…………..

          • Need a Hobby says:

            IMO Bravo knows more people will still watch those two bozos than not just to see what they will do next. Kelly was boring as hell until she made herself relevant on the show by having her “breakthrough.” (No, I don’t think it was acting. As B said, Bravo didn’t shell out for a first class plane ticket for a producer to escort her back to NYC for nothing.)

            How many people swear not to watch these trashy goat rodeos (I’m in love with that term) and still do just to be horrified at them and keep going back for more, lather, rinse and repeat. Bravo sees that. If no one talked about these bozos at all or paid any attention to them, then that would be a signal that they’re way too boring for TV. But while people are keeping track of and discussing Foghorn’s Follies or following & responding to Kiki’s tweetisms and youtube nonsense, that makes them relevant.

            How Lulu keeps getting asked back I don’t know….she’s a looker but just dull in front of the cameras IMO. Last season mostly a 2nd banana to Foghorn. Most memorable line of Season 3: her exaggerated stage gasp when she saw B in Ramona’s apt. Maybe Lulu could have a career in one of Zoila’s TV novelas. ooohh, I could just see that. If she’s in for Season 4, maybe she and Sonja will do some swanning about, but Lulu needs to lose the persona of a person with stick up her butt. It’s not really her (according to reports) so let it go. (Oh God, but no more singing. Please.)

            Anyway, IMO more likely to impede Foghorn’s RHONY career is all her behind the scenes shit pulling and a demand of more money. Bravo might just get fed up with her diva ass and say take it or leave it. IMO Jill will take it since she’s addicted to the camera. Kelly’s just grateful to have her “platform” and it beats youtube so she’s in as long as they’ll have her.

        • truelifediva says:

          Doe anyone remember her appearance on Kathy Griffin’s show? Not flattering at all. I need to go look that one up, I need a good laugh 🙂

          • dumberries says:

            I saw that clip, lol! Kathy was swatting her away like a pesty fly. I think Kathy was shopping with Paris Hilton when Zarin tried to bully her way into the segment.

            • truelifediva says:

              They even played Jill talking in slow motion like Charlie Brown’s wonk,wonk,wonk adults voice while Kathy rolled her eyes and made her look like the fame whore she is. Jill later tried to spin it saying they asked her to come over and film. Yeah, right 😉

            • Need a Hobby says:

              Yes. Foghorn trying to hog the camera on someone else’s show. Classic.

  30. Squirrels says:

    Kelly spews more insightful drivel….

    Question to @kikilet Can you tell us what you meant by the infamous “Al Sharpton” comment? Was it racially motivated in some creepy way?

    @ xxxxx lol. the “al sharpton comment” was directed at ‘really telling people how it is.’ ah, we dont need a narrator, we were there.

    Me – @kikilet Not even Evelyn Wood could translate that comment. I’m guessing you are 3/4 of the way through those 2 cases of vodka.

    • felony stupid says:

      Huh wah? Hey Kell, how does you misidentifying who said “you can’t handle the truth” translate into ‘really telling people how it is’ or not needing a narrator?

      What it comes down to is that in your hyperactive gummibear(…?) induced state you incorrectly idenified the person who said “you can’t handle the truth” as Al Sharpton. Period. Own it you stupid horsefaced poser. Love peace and satchels of gold.

  31. majnon says:

    Thanks for welcoming me. Looking forward to lots of conversation in the future.

    • emt2 says:

      Yes, welcome!

      This a fine group of people here. Really, the night my mom had a stroke and I wasn’t able to visit her in the hospital because it was after-hours, they provided me with such support that I will never forget. Even afterwards, everyone has been so nice and thoughtful and even my mom tells me to say hi to my friends in the internet. lol I’ve been very appreciative and I will always champaign this blog and the community.

      You are now a part of a very diverse, caring, interesting, funny, experienced, articulate and astute group of people. Welcome, again!

  32. Had Enough! says:

    Jill Zarin is going to be on It’s Me or the Dog. This is too easy, but someone has to say it: buh bye, Jillsy. I’d rather watch Ginjuh crap all over that testament to tacky apartment than ever see you on my screen again.

    Wall St Lady – are you OK? Hope your silence for the past few hours means you are well enough to get outside. Maybe even out to the Hamptons to watch the Sasquatch fall off her horse?

    • Squirrels says:

      Hey Had Enough. She said she has company today and promised to close her laptop, lol. She is a hoot.

    • KirksvilleMo says:

      I’ve made contact with the lady that was hurt in Giudice’s apartment building.She sued and won when he didn’t show up in court but they have never paid,ofcourse.It took her 12 days to respond to my message and now I’m not sure what I should say.I obviously had something in mind when I looked her up but now it escapes me.Oldtimers disease-lol?
      The only thing that comes to mind is perhaps to suggest she could make a fair amount by selling her story.Maybe she doesn’t know what big news they currently are.
      Any suggestions?

      WSL posted she has family visiting and will be back this evening.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Maybe she can contact Star or the National Enquirer mags? They might give her a few bucks for her story. I can’t think of any others.

        • dumberries says:

          Or “The Globe” – if it still exists. Used to be the the “National Inquirer” wannabe (lofty goal)…

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        maybe she should contact the trustee – WSL could help her do that.

      • Blue Sky says:

        Kirksville, if she won a judgement against the Giudices, and they didn’t pay (sounds so much like the slimy salamis on RHODC) then what she can do is this: put a lien on the Giudice’s home so that when they sell it, her claim will have to be paid before the title can transfer to the new owner. She doesn’t need a lawyer to do this. Tell her to go to the county court house in the county that the property is located – the house is located at 6 Indian Hill Lane, in Towaco New Jersey, that’s in Morris County.

        website for Morris County info:
        http://www.co.morris.nj.us/generalHTML/teldir.asp

        COUNTY CLERK, Joan Bramhall 973-285-6120

        By contacting the county clerk’s office, she can find out how to file a lien. And here is another thing – if she needs help, tell her to email Lynn Hudson. Lynn can send me an email, and I will call her or get in touch with her. I live in New Jersey & can help her with getting the info she needs. When people don’t pay their debts, filing liens against their property is the best way to get your money.

        • KirksvilleMo says:

          Thank you Blue Sky that is very generous.I found this lady on FaceBook after learning of her.It just struck me how Joe’s neglect caused her injuries and then him kicking her when she was down by non payment and I needed to reach out to her.
          I read that liens are paid in the order they are filed so she would be low on the list by this time I’d think.
          Do you know if selling her story would go against collecting on her judgement?

          • Blue Sky says:

            Problem is, the Giudices filed for bankruptcy, so that would mean any liens filed on property that goes through bankruptcy (or a foreclosure sale as well) would “fall off” which means Giudices wouldn’t have to pay the liens. Right now, their bankruptcy trustee is considering negating their filing, if it can be proved that they lied or were hiding assets when they filed last October. So maybe she should go ahead & sell her story. It shouldn’t affect the judgement – unless she agreed not to speak about it (that’s usually part of the settlement, if they settled out of court) but hey, the damn Giudices never paid up. Nauseating, isn’t it? These grifters are getting away with too much, & belong in jail IMO. She should sell her story, then go on every TV interview show, with her court documents. Hell I would be picketing 24/7 outside that pizzeria with signs! Just isn’t right.

        • Had Enough! says:

          No please don’t tell her that! The bankruptcy proceedings by law bar any creditor from attempting to collect a debt. I am pretty sure that includes filing a lien (and in most states, a judgment automatically constitutes a lien so long as it is filed in the county where the property is located). This is something this lady needs a lawyer’s help with.

          • Blue Sky says:

            She had a lawyer, who helped her win the judgement against giudice that he never paid….at this point, attorneys will just cost her $ she doesn’t have. Further down the thread, Kirksville, I put up a website for congressmen from NJ. This poor lady will never see any $ from giudice, unless she gets help from the state legislators. She can pursue help in Trenton too, but a guy like Rush Holt has really crackerjack people in his office. They can help her, put her in contact with the right people. And picketing the pizzeria is another option – maybe they will pay her to stop! Like hush money…they understand that.

          • Carla Handy says:

            Had Enough is correct!!! She could find herself in legal difficulties by recording a lien while the automatic stay is in effect in the bankruptcy proceeding. Legal advice is needed!

    • Katie says:

      Um, I’ll take the dog!

    • boston02127 says:

      @ Had Enough—-I think WSL said she was having company.

  33. Katie says:

    Bravo ripped off everyone with this season of NJ. I remember the previews that had a gun shot noise during the country club scene( I also appreciated the fake sirens dubbed
     into the actual episode.) False advertising!
     
    They should have previewed an urn in one of Gia’s custom dresses with a weave on top, getting ham thrown at it, while Joe scavenges the ground for free toppings for his pizzas. Meanwhile, the repo man busts in to confiscate the urn and Caroline cries in the corner because it reminds her that one day when her kids are in their 40’s
    they will be moving out of the house. Thanks to the urn, the scene ends with Assley gloating that for once, she didn’t have the lowest IQ in the room.

    I am  hoping that the reunion will compensate for the rest of the snoozefest.

    I hope that bravo gets a clue and realizes that Danielle is not a worthy adversary for Teresa. She either sits there and says nothing or walks away.

    I think that Kelly would be great for this amazing opportunity to celebrate teresa. Teresa would yell and Kelly could either turn her into white noise,
    which would force Teresa to escalate and implode.Or Kelly could do cartwheels and perhaps pretend that
    she is a horse and practice jumping over Teresa while pelting her with organic gummy bears.

      

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      there should be a real losers housewives – Teresa, Kelly, Jill, NeNe, etc can all be on one show!

  34. Wall St Lady says:

    Wow had enough I was just thinking of U. I had wanted to thank u for correcting me on Alex’s nude photos cuz I haven’t seen them. I can tell u r a little like me : outspoken but gentle at the same time. What do u do when not hanging out w/our Lynn family (hence forth LynFam)
    I am great. I went to Coney Island although briefly. I had never been. I am flying to NC for 2 weeks then back to work. I am going to fully recover. Thank u for asking & also ur friendship. Why did u choose ur great name :hadenough

    • Had Enough! says:

      WSL – Simple. I have HAD ENOUGH of the drek (I know you have been in NYC long enough to know that word) on these programs.

  35. Unless these dumb cows cough up evidence of Danielle making threats or harming them physically, I’m going to call BS on all the “We’re so afraid of Danielle” whining.

    Because *IF* Danielle is so bad and *IF* she was threatening them, they would have not only called the police, they would have filed restraining orders against her. They haven’t done either of these things.

    Danielle isn’t Snow White, but that doesn’t excuse the Mad Cows of New Jersey from continuing to harass (& assault) her.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      totally agree – I don’t think that Danielle did anything to them but they know they have too many secrets and if she found out just one……..

    • Squirrels says:

      LMAO @ Mad Cows. Here in SoCal there is an ongoing cheese campaign that includes happy cows. I kid you not. They talk, but to date have never flipped a table. Only Mad Cows do that!

  36. majnon says:

    Thanks emtu. I hope as well that your mother is doing well. My mom had a stroke several years ago and continued to live a happy life for 8 more years. We were all lucky that she got great care and wonderful support thru the family and community. She was the most amazing person and mother.

  37. Wall St Lady says:

    Squirrels I would love to sail but why did I think u were in DC. Also I can tell u were the assistant from heaven (not hell)
    U have been one busy lady !

    • Squirrels says:

      I get around. No wait… that came out wrong… no wait… it came out right. Oh hell’s bells……

      Still, the offer stands.

    • Squirrels says:

      You may have gotten confused because as mentioned in my little tale, my sister still lives part time in DC. My bro in law is a partner at Sidley Austin, so until he retires, they spread their time between DC and Woods Hole, MA.

      • truelifediva says:

        Okay, I’m jealous that you offered to take her sailing and not me… 😦
        Not, really, just fishing for an invite 😉

        • Squirrels says:

          We can sail, but fishing off a sailboat freaks me out. I can just see a hook tearing my sails apart, lol.

          • Quincy IL says:

            I was with a Turkish doctor last night. His sail folds out like a curtin and there are computers that help it move into position. I want to see that boat.

  38. Wall St Lady says:

    One month Bo thank u for asking about my baby boy,Luke. He lives in NC w/my brother. I will see him in a few days. They shaved a good sized spot & he seems to b more upset about the spot than the fang wound. He had to get all his shots over again. We diced to put in a cat door. Me I am going to sit on the porch w/a broom & see if I can figure what cat it is cuz he does have lots of friends who play nice.

  39. Wall St Lady says:

    I ment one MO Bo

  40. dumberries says:

    Feeling silly today – been putting off housecleaning far too long and now it’s a huge job. The Duchess has inspired me to get off my butt and get to it. Before I log off, wondering if we should play a game during the reunion tomorrow night. Like, every time Caroline says “family”, we all take a sip? Thanks for all the smiles today….

  41. celeste says:

    I personally do not believe there will be a season 3 of NJ. It’s a total failure. Also, I think Danielle must have violated Bravo’s TOS agreement in order for them to fire her. Myabe Andy will tell us “what REALLy happened” although i doubt it. This season was a total bore. I’d rather clean my toilets than watch more of the NJ bs. Their sense of entitlement bugs the crap out of me, and Teresa GuidARSE’s non stop spending makes me sick. That bitch should be in the slammer with Neanderthal Joe.

    • truelifediva says:

      Didn’t Danielle say she only tells the truth if she’s paid for it? or something to that effect. Like denying being a stripper/coke whore/drug dealer until she put it in a book for sale. Hopefully someone will pay Danielle a chunk of money to reveal her side of the story. And then The Fambly will be forced to come out with their side. And then we can analize it here for our amusement.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Not a total failure for Bravo, not a failure at all from their perspective….it pulled in the ratings and makes them money. Which is what it’s all about. Bravo may tweak the show but they’re not going to dump a profitable show IMO.

      • dumberries says:

        I agree. I think RHNJ is considered a huge success by Bravo. Much higher ratings than OC or NY, probably lower production costs than the other cities, higher ratings = more lucrative advertising income…..

    • Quincy IL says:

      http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2010/08/27/bethenny-frankel-doubts-danielle-staub-spinoff-show/

      Bethenny says that Danielle won’t get the Bravo spin off. I don’t think she will work for them again either.

  42. Squirrels says:

    I had no idea reality TV is a category for the Emmy’s. What’s next, zoo news?

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Oh yeah. Remember Kathy Griffin has two Emmy’s? She parades them at every opportunity, LOL. It’s a part of her schtick.

  43. Squirrels says:

    Top Chef win’s Emmy for best reality show.

  44. vilzvet says:

    Hello everyone, got back from the Hampton Classic a little while ago, beautiful day! I hit the jackpot!!! Watched Kelly compete in two classes, she actually did pretty well, she ended up fourth in two classes out of 14 and 19 riders. One was a jumping class, the other was all of them in the ring together doing walk, trot, canter. She blew a chance to move up in the jumping class, though. The judge asks who he thinks is the top four to come back in the ring to do a simple test of only 3 or 4 fences instead of the usual 8 or 9. Well, Kelly had to go FIRST in the test and, heheh, guess what happened…she blew the sequence. You are not allowed to talk to the other riders when waiting to go, and when the judge gave the sequence “Fences 3, 7 and 8”, Kelly hesitated for a LONG time. We could clearly see her asking the other riders which fence he meant to be first, which is not allowed! Her problem was there were TWO gray fences in the ring but Kelly must have heard them say “The gray one” but she did the FIRST gray fence, not the correct SECOND one. In any case, we all sat there going, she did the wrong fence. And of course when the other riders went after her they did the SECOND gray fence. Her own damn fault because she should have known the fences herself. I went right up to her between courses when she was off the horse because I spotted Sea and Teddy with her at the gate studying the course. I took pics of them but even though I was right behind them I knew she was concentrating and didn’t want to ask her to pose. So I just took candids of the three of them. The younger daughter is an absolute doll. They did look bored though, I don’t think they have the horse riding gene, which is surprising because there were so many little girls there riding.

    My second scoop is I spent a good hour right next to Kelly Ripa and Mark Consuelos! Absolutely no one talked to either of them at all except two male friends, one a photographer. At one point she was all by herself right 5 feet from me waiting for her daughter to enter the ring but I again just shut my mouth even though I dearly wanted to shoot the breeze with her. Her daughter Lola did very well, Reserve Champion out of at least 20 kids! When Lola came back to join them that’s when I couldn’t resist and asked Kelly if I could take a pic of the two of them. She said of course. My two friends thought I was crazy to even do that, but I thought it was bizarre that no one approached them to take a pic! Unless they just did not recognize them at all. I took lots of pics from about 6 feet as discreetly as I could, LOL. Mark looks very handsome, and she did have a hat and sunglasses on, shorts and sandals, very petite. I have tons of pics to share with all of you very soon (my camera phone is completely dead!).

    • truelifediva says:

      AWESOME 🙂

    • Squirrels says:

      Well done Vilzvet. You were right to not interfere, but I still wish Bill tossed her on her ass. I look forward to your pics.

    • boston02127 says:

      @vilzvet–It sounded like you had fun, thanks for sharing. I can’t wait to see your pics.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      You’re a class act, V. Didn’t intrude or disturb the local fauna in their natural habitat. 😉

      I do like Kiki’s kids. Loved the younger one writing the captions during the pancake scene. She’s a recap/photocap blogger in the making. LOL.

      • Char212 says:

        Sounds like you had a great day vilzvet. I’ve been waiting for your report and can’t wait to see your pictures.

    • Kelly did a walk/trot/cantor course?
      LOL
      How embarrassing. And 4th place on top of that?
      I’m gonna go tweet her. Hahah
      Thanks for the update, I was waiting for that.
      How high were the fences? Tell me they were like 2 feet please!

      • vilzvet says:

        The fences were about 2’3″, and everyone has to do a walk trot class, it’s part of most of the divisions, there are tons of them all day. Oh yeah, there was a MALE friend who met her after she was done but have no idea who he was. I took a snap but it was accidentally on camcorder so it came out like a 12 second movie, LOL. And only the last 2 seconds was a good shot. I will have the pics up tomorrow, I still have to crop and edit them. Night all.

        • Laura aka Just done says:

          Go Viz…good for you! I was waiting to see if you (a) saw her, and (b) how she did. Kudos to you for the way you handled yourself with Kelly Ripa. I’ve met them when I was working in retail…very nice, down to earth people. Not full of themselves.

          Good job again! 🙂

        • Kat says:

          Thank you for posting and sharing the details of the HC.
          It sounds like you had a good time. I’ll be looking forward to your pictures.

    • emt2 says:

      Thanks for sharing.

      I will say that Kelly does look the part of a horse rider. It’s like she is in a Ralph Lauren ad. Maybe she wants her life to be like a RL ad or a JCREW catalog. lol

  45. Wall St Lady says:

    Blue Sky good work.
    tips@nationalenquirer.com
    646 935 6053 is the NY tip line
    I think you r correct that she could sell her story.

    • Blue Sky says:

      WSL, does make my blood boil that this poor woman suffered injuries due to the landlord’s (giudice) negligence. She should have brought criminal charges against him too. Supposedly, tenant law is very strong in New Jersey. You know that if she had had proper advice, things might have turned out differently.

      KirksvilleMo, this lady still has lots of options. She should contact the state congressmen in NJ (wouldn’t bother with the state reps in Trenton…unless they are “good” i.e. not corrupt.). I don’t know if Rush Holt is her congressman, but he is awesome. His office could help direct her to the right people. Here’s a website with all the congressmen from NJ:

      http://www.contactingthecongress.org/cgi-bin/newseek.cgi?site=ctc&state=nj

      If she is a minority, then she should contact people like Al Sharpton. There has to be a way to get her story out, and make these people pay. They continue to live the high life, flaunting jewelry, expensive parties, furs, etc. while their victims never got paid! I’ve had enough & she deserves better representation under the laws of this land.

      • KirksvilleMo says:

        Yes she is minority and by her correspondence I feel she is temid and probably lacks the ability to know what to do on her own.
        It took her 12 days to answer me and I tried very hard not to scare her when I wrote back with what I thought her options are.You know with what she has been through she has to be leary of what I want.
        I can’t believe no one reached out before,I just found out on twitter and looked her up.I was about to give up hope when I got her message this am.
        Thanks for all your help.I hope she feels comfortable enought to get back to me

        • Blue Sky says:

          KirksvilleMo, upthread someone said filing a lien on their property while giudice is in bankruptcy might get her into more legal difficulties. That’s why I think she should get in touch with Rush Holt, or whoever is her congressman. Holt has lawyers/volunteers in his office here in NJ that are just fantastic, they can help her. Her injury occurred quite awhile ago, right, so she should have filed a lien back then, before these bums declared bankruptcy. So why didn’t her attorney do that? Not all attorneys are that great (sorry, JMO!) and the best ones cost big $. So there’s lots she can do, to get some money. Selling her story, I think is a good idea. Then she (or her family/friends) should get her story out there. Contact Bravo TV & let them hear an earful, too, but hell we know they don’t care about making crooks famous – they are milking the slimy salahis ratings. Just makes me sick, when poor people get the bum rap because nobody cares. Please pass on these options to her, tell her not to give up.

  46. Mel says:

    Lynn, i don’t agree with your theory that bravo would not have invited Dina for the reunion. There are many housewives that have left the show mid season and still were invited back, i.e Lori and Jeanna.

    As far as Danielle being ganged up on and not allowed to speak, i feel that Danielle knows exactly what to say to trigger reactions from people. Whether it be making ridicules comments about the family members of these women or acting as if she is an angel and oblivious as to why people are upset with her. Danielle can dish it, but cannot take it?

    Although i by no means condone Teresa’s reaction (i think Teresa is overall obnoxious) however Danielle knows what buttons to press with this retard Teresa. Danielle makes my skin crawl and she has no doubt cause more damage behind the scenes and I hope we finally hear the whole story behind the Dina exit./

    • Squirrels says:

      Teresa is not a “retard.” She may be obnoxious, live outside her means and just plain criminal, but to equate her with those who are mentally retarded is an insult to those who are mentally retarded. I know I sound like a broken record, but it is the only button on my push me pull you scale.

      So please, use the word appropriately or do not use it at all. It is all I ask.

    • emt2 says:

      Please don’t use the word retard. We get it that Teresa is dumb but retard is kinda taboo. Thanks for understanding!

      I don’t think that Danielle acts like she doesn’t do anything. In the interview she had with Billy Bush, she admitted that she did do things but that they all did and she shouldn’t be singled out for poor behavior especially in the face of someone like Teresa who doesn’t have any boundaries.

      The amount of overwhelming criticism she faces for her actions are disproportionate compared to what some of the other women have done, in my view. Currently, her worst crime was bringing those goons to that cancer event. Her sex tape, I don’t care about. What else did she do? I believe that the Manzo clan has stalked her in the same way that she has stalked them. Ashley is a perfect example.

      She is not stealing from tax payer a la Teresa. I don’t care what she did 25 years ago. I wonder what Caroline’s and Dina’s husbands did 25 years ago to save the Brownstone in Paterson, New Jersey. Danielle fits in nicely with other ladies because they are all trash and sketchy. I love how no one has mentioned Jacqueline’s husband’s artillery of guns and weapons. I don’t know anyone who has a closet filled with guns. Regular folks who live in the suburbs don’t usually have that amount of firearms unless something strange is going on. Let’s be real.

      I don’t hate Danielle. I think she is pretty transparent. I do not like Dina because she is so fake and pretends one thing and lives another. There is most likely no back story concerning Dina’s exit. She left because of something having to do with Lexie and her ex-husband. If she hadn’t forged the signature then why isn’t she on the show? Her story has so many holes in it. Danielle doesn’t have that much influence in her life to prevent her from being on the show. Dina is a liar and not a very good one.

      Jeana was asked to appear on the reunion because Jeana actually started Real Housewives with her neighbor who is the original producer. They both concocted the idea together and she was partially responsible for casting and setting the tone of the show and you could say, by extension, the entire franchise. She was very vocal in her displeasure with Bravo for under-appreciating her efforts behind the scenes and decided that she wanted to leave, coupled with her deteriorating marriage and chaotic financial life.

      Dina is no Jeana. Dina thought she would be the star of the franchise and Danielle became the focal point. That’s what I see. You’ll never get the whole story about her departure because she lies and everyone lies for her. Why was she pretending like she bowed out of the Italy trip and the reunion when she quit the show 3 episodes in? Dina is a fraud and I guarantee that she has plenty of enemies in New Jersey other than Danielle. She’s a sneaky one.

      • “I don’t know anyone who has a closet filled with guns. Regular folks who live in the suburbs don’t usually have that amount of firearms unless something strange is going on.”

        I do, but then I’m from Texas where it’s almost required to have guns in the house. I love it when local newsreaders get all “shocked” when law enforcement announces they found guns in someone’s home. Well, duh. Although I would like to point out that most people with guns here use them for hunting, not crime.

        • Justanothermary says:

          I too have many many guns around the house. I have a husband and 5 sons who hunt and guns are passed down from generation to generation like great grandma’s fine china!

        • emt2 says:

          But that makes sense. You live in Texas and people hunt, etc.

          Do people hunt in New Jersey? Do people hunt in Chicago? Do people hunt in New York City?

          That is what doesn’t make sense to me. Their location and types of guns they had.

    • Quincy IL says:

      I’m sure that Dina was invited. That would have meant more fire works.

      • Justanothermary says:

        I just saw on twitter that Dina said she was invited but chose not to go.

        • dumberries says:

          Thanks! I was just nodding in agreement with Quincy when you confirmed that Dina had been invited. Why wouldn’t she be invited; the more conflict the better (from Bravo’s perspective).

          P.S. I also think she may have been invited on the Italy trip and chosen not to go (what’s one more person, and Danielle wasn’t going). If so, Dina would have passed because she would have been sharing the limelight with way too many others, imo. I get the sense that Andy and the Bravo folks favor Dina…

    • boston02127 says:

      @Mel—http://www.specialolympics.org/03-31-09_Spread_the_Word.aspx

      • MAMAZ says:

        You all know how I feel about using the R word.
        Many people use it without considering what they are saying. But it’s not just a figure of speech. It’s disrespectful of people whose intelligence is different than our own. It encourages contempt for people who have gifts and talents just like we do. People who are the children of, siblings of and yes even parents of people just like us.
        Please Mel in the future find a different way to express your disdain for Teresa’s ignorance.

        • I agree that it is insulting to retarded people to call Teresa retarded.
          -I’ll just throw-out two substitute words, ignorant, and un-educated, I’m sure there are more.
          While we’re on the topic of PC & not-pc terms used to describe Teresa, I noticed up-thread that “Mad Cow” was also used, and although almost any reference to animals seems to be a good fit for her, I would like to ask that people please realize that term isn’t funny at all for familys that have been affected by it.
          Teresa’s behavior is definitely offensive, I just hope that we don’t offend each-other in trying to describe it.

  47. truelifediva says:

    While I have enjoyed debating with everyone the charming personality traits of Danielle and Teresa, I hope this is the last season with this cast. Bravo needs to scrap everything and start with a fresh batch of wannabe’s (let’s keep it real, GENUINE socialites wouldn’t be caught dead on this show). I hope all of the women of NJ find happiness, financial stability, and their children get degrees from the college of their choice.
    I further hope Danielle is able to find a friend or two that has similiar interests so she can stop obsessing over The Fambly. She doesn’t seem to understand that people do not have to like her, friends can UNfriend you, and life does go on. I think the saying, “The best revenge is living life successfully” best applies here. Instead of hiring private investigators and armed thugs, Danielle should focus on making her life fabulous. The Fambly will self-implode… or maybe not. But that’s not for Danielle to decide. She needs to truly live in the “Love and Light”. She will be a winner if she does 😉

    • Squirrels says:

      I believe Danielle had to throw one more parting shot, if only to prove she is not the only culprit in this web of lies. Can’t say I blame her, but I do hope it’s the last shot.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Now that Danielle has some celebrity status – I bet she will continue to take shots at the MGL crew! Just saying….

      • Quincy IL says:

        She had the dream of stardom in her hand and they did take it away from her. I think she will always hate them.

  48. cdnfillie58 says:

    Danielle is very cunning, actually she’s a genius at what she’s doing. I think she has been instigating or pushing buttons as she says with the MGL gang with info they don’t want known publicly, that’s why they keep bringing up her past..to deflect, and there’s nothing else they can do about it.
    It seems to me Danielle does go out of her way to get whatever dirt she can on them, is that because Caroline called her garbage in the 1st season? Probably..is it crazy KooKoo-like…without a doubt. I mean why pay a PI to get whatever dirt on them, if she only wants them to stop “chasing” her and stop being a victim? (insert Bravo likely paid for this PI anyway)
    I truly think Bravo is deliberately editing out what Danielle is doing to them behind the scenes, to spice things up, and the MGL gang are being told not to discuss or risk getting booted off the show. I don’t think Danielle has been kicked off the show, they aren’t that stupid, she’s the main attraction and the MGL gang know it.
    This is all scripted..and badly at that…but it’s what brings in $$$ for Bravo and keeps Andy’s job.
    Although, I don’t think they anticipated the Theresa and Juicy saga I do think they’re gleefully rubbing their hands at that whole scenario and furiously trying to figure out how to use it in the new season.
    For myself, I’ll keep watching and reading about them. I love to people watch when I’m out in public trying to figure out what makes people tick and I find all this weirdness fascinating .
    That’s what happens when you take Psych 101 as a hobby .. have a great week ladies and gents..luv this blog

    • emt2 says:

      But the ladies all investigated Danielle and aired her dirty laundry, right? Better believe that they hired private investigators last year to find out more about Danielle. Caroline even admitted to this.

      Why can’t she do the same to them? Teresa calls Danielle broke when meanwhile she is the one with major financial problems and about to lose her home and embroiled in all kinds of sketchy dealings. The women talk about her parenting skills, and look at what a great job Jacqueline is doing with Ashley or look at how unruly Teresa’s kids are. Danielle is just doing back to them what they do to her. Plain and simple.

      One thing that Danielle is not, is a huge hypocrite and all the other women are hypocrites and protect each other. She said that she was broke and did regretful things and can become jealous and has a sloppy love life, etc. She is completely transparent and self-aware. She doesn’t care about collateral damage though, a la the cancer event, and that is my biggest issue with her.

      • cdnfillie58 says:

        I agree, my point is, we know nothing about what Danielle’s is supposedly doing to MGL yet we know everything they are doing to Danielle….where there’s smoke there’s definitely fire..Bravo is controlling it all and both sides are going right along with it.
        Someone else posted earlier that they felt like a pawn in Bravo’s editing hands.
        Bravo people watches the same way I love to people watch 😛

        • emt2 says:

          yeah, you’re right. Bravo edits how they want and controls/manipulates the storylines. I think that they didn’t really appreciate how much animosity there is towards Danielle, though. For the most part, they showed her in a more positive light (unlike Jill Zarin) but still Danielle is disliked. I have no idea what is real and what isn’t but I know that all those women are scandals and sketchy.

        • kats2 says:

          They have been given everything opportunity to talk about Danielle has done to them, but all they do is spew the same old same old – at some point it’s not hard to conclude that there might not be anything for them to tell us. Broken mail boxes, late night phone calls, you know who else is likely to do that stuff, any girls the husbands are keeping on the side.

      • Quincy IL says:

        Teresa held up the book, but I think Jac, Caroline and Dina talked and originally decided to keep the book out of the show.
        Teresa has no boundaries.

        25 years ago, Danielle did commit crimes. She has not gotten arrested in a long time. Unfortunately, our mistakes do follow us.

        Caroline hated the stories about Tiny Manzo and his murder. Those came out too. We know a lot about Teresa. Danielle wasn’t the only one outed.

        • dumberries says:

          We only know a lot about Teresa based on her real life indiscretions; matters of public record. Teresa’s secrets weren’t revealed on the show, they were protected (or not known). If it weren’t for the bankruptcy and DUI, viewers might still be generally positive about Teresa.

  49. boston02127 says:

    As much as I don’t like the type of person Danielle is, I hope she gets her own show, writes a tell all book, marries another filthy rich guy and I hope both her girls go on to an Ivy League college. As crappy as her new should would be, I’ll watch it to help the ratings. As crappy as her tell all book would, I’ll buy it to help sales. As long as she’s rubbing Caroline, Teresa and Jacqueline’s faces in it I’ll be cheering her on.

    • emt2 says:

      I agree because the Manzo clan are just complete hypocrites. That is what made me lose my support for them. They are all scandalous. Every single one of them. If they can pimp out their lives, Danielle should be able to, as well. It would be great if great things came to Danielle. Not sure it will happen unless she changes her approach to life and does some major emotional work. She needs a lot of therapy but she can redeem herself. Maybe…I hope. 🙂

  50. emt2 says:

    Good night all!

    I feel like I’ve been very chatty tonight. Too much coffee.

  51. Wall St Lady says:

    Boston02. I think u r on the right track. I can’t tell u the # of women that are x call girls etc. or from the makeup counter at Saks (an honorable profession) the point is they marry a very rich man then hide/lie about their past & reinvent themselves. The worst is when they become righteous & are mean to & exclude anyone they deem competion. I see it particularly in PalmBeach. I believe Dungelle
    Will marry a rich man but I don’t think she will be a hypocrite.

    • Had Enough! says:

      Like Roxanne Pulitzer. Or Jaqueline Kimberly, with whom Pulitzer reportedly had a fling. Kimberly ended up living in an apartment in Broward County and shot herself to death a few years ago. Kimberly herself was 17-yr-old art gallery receptionist when she met her sugar daddy (heir to the Kimberly Clark paper fortune). After the divorce, Kimberly supported herself as a waitress.

      Or vice versa. A few that really come from money and manage to go in the wrong direction. Sidney Biddles Barrow for instance (the Mayflower Madam).

      Hard to imagine Danielle getting anyone now – she has made herself into a freak and good lord, who wants to get mixed up with this psychological train wreck?

      • cdnfillie58 says:

        other psychological train wrecks..like attracts like sometimes 😛

      • OneMoreinBoston says:

        Or Theresa Heinz. Started out as a flight attendant from South Africa and met Mr. Heinz, married him, was widowed, and then married Sen. John Kerry.

        Money comes, money goes. Luann was right, it can’t buy you class.

  52. Squirrels says:

    All I can say is I’m grateful no housewive’s series was up for an Emmy tonight under the reality category. Bullet dodged. Top Chef won for last year’s efforts. This year? I doubt it will be nominated, but that’s just me hoping/wishing.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      lol I would think the shows selected would have to have some talent involved. Cooking or cheffing is a talent – being criminals – not so much!

  53. Had Enough! says:

    Long weekend (as in way too much work of various kinds). You people are fantastic and I can only wish I knew so many interesting people IRL. Time to try to get some sleep. Be well, everyone.

  54. Wall St Lady says:

    This is the trustee
    sywilokattorney@sywilok.com
    201)487-9390
    John Sywilok

    I was thinking about the woman injured by Juicy. She is one of many debtors but she could institute his anger so he is tougher on Juicy. Best case Sywilok rejects their petition & sells the Mc mansion & has some money to give out & attaches Juicy’s wages for life. At that point Trasha leaves Juicy & marries one of her fans.

    • Blue Sky says:

      Yahoo! Another idea…KirksvileMO, let’s put her in touch with Danielle. When D writes her tell all book, this lady’s experience as a tenant in giudice’s building will be very interesting, how she got injured due to his negligence. You know, the number of seemingly illegal things juicy joe has done really should have him in jail. I don’t know anyone with that kind of driving record, forging signatures (he lost a lawsuit on that too…remember?) belongs in jail, IMO & may I add “allegedly” as well.

  55. Squirrels says:

    Ugh. I got into it with Dina tonight and with my left thumbs didn’t get the chance to grab her tweets before she deleted them.

    Suffice to say, she’s a wench… and a coward.

    • Char212 says:

      Oh Darn, I knew I should have gotten on twitter tonight. What did she say that she needed to delete them so fast?

      • Squirrels says:

        It’s dumb yet it put me to tears (I really need to work on that). Dina Manzo, the woman of all things charitable watched (she claims her audio was off) the production staff of Temple Grandin, the woman HBO followed who happens to be born with autism, dealing with it daily and so personally, get an Emmy award, and all she could say was, I love what Claire Danes is wearing. Even Claire Danes cried in her acceptance speech because the issue was so poignant. Not so, Ms. Dina.

        Sorry my fellow commentators. I went off. Dina cared more about what Claire was wearing? Are you kidding me?

        Dina had the nerve to tell me point blank the sound was off on her TV. cough, sputter… She had no idea who the woman was, which in my book is ok. Just admit it. No one is holding you to the holy grail of knowledge. The fact she tried to hide it, pretend, shield herself from bad press because she didn’t know this woman has been a caring subject, allowing her life to be photographed and catalogued for years? It doesn’t make Dina a bad person. It just shows how shallow she is when it comes down to wow, I’m in my own world v. I had no idea and am glad to be awakened. To me it was that simple. The wow factor is nothing to be ashamed of. Dina couldn’t do that. She played the – I don’t listen I just watch the Award programs. I’m sorry, is anyone believing this crap? I don’t listen, I just watch?

        This story is indicative of the whole clan in my opinion. They shade truths and expect we the public will buy into their stories. They block us from Twitter, then corral the wagons in hopes no undesirables will penetrate their forces.

        I think I really need to go away. I’m just no good at absorbing this bullshit. I already know what’s coming down the pike with the guest blogger. She has boasted on Twitter in jest no doubt that Lynn will lose half her followers when she posts her guest blog. I find that completely self-serving, looking to ramp up controversy for her own sake, and will fall short of insidiousness just to prove she’s a good egg. Insert hahaha here. I just can’t deal with it anymore.

        Any venture Dina wants to take on for true and I do mean true caring? (note I do not say charity) I say go for it. Just don’t find yourself in a situation unfamiliar and go for the “well don’t follow me then” card. It just isn’t in my deck.

        Those who know me know where to find me. Thank you Lynn for your grace under fire, your ability to sooth wounded souls. I think for me, I am freaking out over what your guest blogger will say. I’ve been on the short end of her rants. If you can tolerate her tossing about the “retard” word with no remorse, just the “I said it, I meant it”, it’s simply too much angst for me. She claims to be a comedienne. I see nothing funny about going after people like my son born into his own goldfish bowl, comparing him to those who are quite frankly, simply not nice.

        Kisses all.

        • Need a Hobby says:

          Take a break if you need to Squirrels.

          I heard an interview with Temple Grandin on NPR. Fascinating.

          The upcoming guest blogger claims to be a comedian? Guess it’s a matter of opinion. You crack me the hell up sometimes. But then I’ve always liked squirrels.

        • felony stupid says:

          Hi Squirrels – I just started to read your book and I have to tell you I have been moved to tears. It is beautiful and funny and lovely and true. I wanted to thank you for sharing your story. My son is undiagnosed but we believe somewhere on the spectum. It has a been an uphill battle and I work everyday to get him the services he needs. He is a fantastic, amazing, smart, loving individual and I am his #1 fan and I thank heaven for sending this kid to me. And I thank you for reminding me I am not alone. It is great comfort.

          As for the guest blogger…I don’t think I read the original blog you are referring to (not sure how I missed it ’cause it sounds kinda awful) so I’m not familiar with her(?) writing style but it sounds like it is prob not my cup of tea either.

          In any event, I hope to see you around and although I don’t get to the chance to read every post, I always stop and read yours.

        • Noelle says:

          Oh no you don’t! You’re not going anywhere. This board would not be the same without you and we’re not going to let some “inconsiderate” be judge and jury of it.
          We have your back!

        • anniieee says:

          We love you…I totally agree… there are words out there that no one should toss around and that is one of them..I hear a few more at my school and always always stop them. I got your back. Sleep well…

          Annie xoxox

        • cdnfillie58 says:

          Squirrels…don’t quit.

        • emt2 says:

          Squirrels,

          We will be here waiting for you if you need to take a break.
          Feel better.

          • tuzentswurth says:

            I will really miss you Squirrels if you step away:(
            I hope it doesn’t become necessary for you to leave.
            You make the day for me and it seems so many others here too!

        • Kat says:

          I’m still reading and trying to catch up.
          But Squirrels! I admit I could use the exercise but please don’t make me go Squirrels hunting.

  56. Wall St Lady says:

    I know Sidney. My friends warned me not to hire her but I did as a receptionist. By accident I over herd her tell a lie so I pretty much fired her on the spot. She is 58 & looks great & still a debutante (I was too) Haven’t seen her since.

    • Noelle says:

      Sidney WHO? I’m lost…?

      • Had Enough! says:

        You young ones crack me up. Google Mayflower Madam or Sidney Biddle Barrows. The Biddles were the ne plus ultra of Philadelphia society.

        Actually, she was in the news recently, albeit as a supporting character in a story about her husband, Darnay Hoffman, who is a very, very weird lawyer. He, in turn, is famous for having represented (here’s another “who?” for you) Joel Steinberg:

        http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/features/9607/

        • Quincy IL says:

          I know Joel Steinberg. He murdered his adopted daughter while his wife watched. Lawyers always think that the guilty deserve representation. The bad guys come to the hospital too and we have to care for them.

          There was a movie about Syndey. She was gorgeous.
          To tell the truth. Prostitution is something that has been with civilization since it began. Sometimes, it’s a respected occupation as the Geishas in Japan. Our own West had brothels filled with floozies (ridden with disease BTW.) In Italy in the 1400’s, there were cortisans who were in the court competing with the Ladies in Waiting for the affection of the aristocracy.

          I’ve seem some intersting marriage, like the Jill/Bobby marriage that have a financial aspect too. Note, Jill’s video in the jewelry shop. Teresa said that she would withhold sex if Joe didn’t give her an expensive 10th Anniversay gift too.

          The “other women” have always been with us too. Look at the money they take from intact families in the form of gifts.

          When someone we knew had an affair with a nurse, who was a floozie in many ways, I asked my father if my husband would ever do that to me. My dad said, No, I don’t think so. He has clothes in his closet from the early 60’s and 70’s. He has a 1972 Camero. He never throws anything old away.”

        • tuzentswurth says:

          Aww, don’t laugh at the young ones. They will have their time on the planet and soon will pass up we oldsters as technology and time keep advancing. I watched my parents finally get overwhelmed even though my Mom learned to use a computer at age 80 and had a limited education. Great thing now, you can Google anything you want to know.
          I recently had a 14 yr old house guest who couldn’t believe I was alive during the Rosa Parks incident! I was prob about her age. She was astounded……….she thought it was ancient history. Too funny!

  57. Wall St Lady says:

    Hadenough. Now don’t b shocked but wall St man sees these women I mentioned in PB. He would say they all give good BJs & often till they get married. Then they r busy looking for an even richer husband.

    • Quincy IL says:

      Rich men think they can have any woman too. They don’t care if you are married either. I think it works both ways. The woman want to change their station in life and the men wants those women. The men dump them for younger women in time. Look at Sonja, Luann, and Kelly. Thrown away. That has to hurt.

    • Noelle says:

      Hello WSL and Quincy,
      You’re both right.
      Terribly sad truths!

  58. New Blog about last week’s episode. I transcribed the Danielle/Caroline sit down. Just in time for the reunion …. sigh.

  59. WindyCityWondering says:

    OT – the entire cast of Jersey Shore is being sued for assault, along with MTV! IMO, these Jersey celebrities can say what they want – but the law applies to them – I’m not jealous of Jersey girls, I was taught to keep my hands to myself and I have no sympathy for any of the fame whores!

    • Laura aka Just done says:

      WCW – I know the title of the show is Jersey Shore, and I know it’s filmed in Jersey. Just one thing…only ONE cast member is actually FROM Jersey. We have enough problems with these horrid housewives and the other reality shows. Please realize that these people are from NY and RI too.

      • Noelle says:

        I believe (and 99% of posters here) do not believe 1% makes bad/taints the good people…anywhere. IMHO. 😉

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Sorry Laura if I offended you. I have watched Jersey Shores and have to say that they love to fight – words, fists, etc – these people may not be from Jersey but they are giving Jersey a bad name and that really bothers me!

  60. Char212 says:

    Caroline’s article that she talked about that she was writing for glo mag is up. I haven’t read it yet but here it is. http://glo.msn.com/#stackState=3__%2Frelationships%2Fcaroline-rules-1533881.story

  61. TrueLifeDiva says:

    @Squirrels, please do not go! I look forward to your posts and it wouldn’t be the same here without you. Nobody is gonna bully you here… Not on my watch 😉

    • Noelle says:

      I’m with you.

    • Had Enough! says:

      Squirrels. I know this sounds crazy, but I am really upset at the thought that you might leave permanently. Take a break, sure, but please come back. And trust that we will support you. Should this guest blogger – I only vaguely remember her last blog and your comments – continue to display insensitivity and ignorance, you know that we will all make sure she knows that Mother. Is. Not. Happy. Nicely, of course.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Yeah Squirrels – you add more to this blog on a daily basis than any guest blogger every will….her blog was somewhat offensive and I didn’t even finish reading it. So you need to stay!

        • dumberries says:

          Squirrels,
          I know you’ll be back today – I suspect a few hours break and you’ll be bouncing right back. Your apprehension is justified, imo. I too am dreading the guest blogger (and it takes so much to offend me in the slightest). I feel like she’s like a “shock blogger” – trying to get a reaction, without anything of significance to say. I felt dumbed-down trying to get through her last incoherent rant (JMO folks). I’m not gonna read this upcoming guest blog; but will interact below it with all of my friends here. Apparently, Lynn is fine with her and okay having that kind of sentiment in her house, so I respect that. It’s Lynn blog. You’re not alone here – see you back later today. YOU BETTER NOT GO ANYWHERE – YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!!!

          • Anitabee says:

            Squirrels, please do not leave us. The bad times suck ass BUT we here can bring on hilarious snark and good times.

            Of course every once in a while, we will read something that upsets us. You have a GREAT AMOUNT of support here. Come back.

            I can’t imagine not having your wit here to discuss this crazy reunion. Ur needed!

    • cdnfillie58 says:

      I don’t know who this guest blogger is or was..I must have missed it. But I’m thinking if some of you (and there seems to be quite a few) object so strongly to her blog the best thing would be to let her (and Lynn) know by way of posting here…or skip by it like I do.
      I prefer responding to what Lynn and the posters here have to say on her blog as opposed to guest bloggers. It’s Lynn’s blogs that keeps me here and lovin every minute of it.
      Unfortunately Squirrels, you won’t get everybody in the blog world to stop using offensive and hurtful words, but you can vent (albeit) nicely here and speak out and get your point across a lot more effectively here with us…(besides that it ain’t time for you to gather your nuts and hibernate) Please reconsider hugs!

  62. lillybee says:

    I will not be watching the reunion show tomorrow, due to a family emergency, but I count of all of you to keep me updated through this blog. It will be my lifeline.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      lillybee….best wishes to you & family.

    • Squirrels says:

      I am sorry to hear you have a situation you must obviously deal with. I send you many hugs, kisses, and a couple of bitch slaps if needed. Take care. The other women here will get you through. You already know that.

      • Char212 says:

        I don’t know who this guest blogger is but if she can’t write a blog without using words like that just shows how ignorant and unfeeling she is. You just don’t throw words like that around thinking she’s being funny. Not if you’re an intelligent and educated person that is. We have a neighbor who has a downs syndrome son and he’s the sweetest kid you could ever know. One time years ago he had some kind of scuffle or something with another neighbors two boys and that neighbor was complaining about him. I told her that he doesn’t understand and he doesn’t do things like our kids do. She said to me…Well he can just act like our kids and act normal. I couldn’t believe my ears. I looked at her and told her how heartless that is and that I’m sure his parents would give their right arm if he could do that. Some people just doesn’t have the ability to have compassion for anyone else.

        I hope you stay squirrels, it won’t be the same around here if you leave.

      • lillybee says:

        Bitch slaps are definitely needed. No. 2 son is having problems with his baby momma. I hate that term but he needs momma’s attention.

        • Katie says:

          I just thought I would tell you about a person on YouTube.com
          name ozus2. She uploads videos of the real hosewives the next day. They play on iPhone/smartphone etc. Hope all will be well

    • Char212 says:

      Thoughts and best wishes for you and your family lillybee.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Our thoughts and prayers will be with you! Take care.

  63. anniieee says:

    Good Morning all… Hope you all slept well… have a wonderful day..and I will see you all tonight! Off to school..and I am tired. True Blood was a good one last night.

    Hugss..
    Annie

  64. boston02127 says:

    Good morning….☼

  65. boston02127 says:

    Caroline Manzo’s new column—— http://tinyurl.com/2c524ys

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Caroline did a nice job!

      • dumberries says:

        She did do a good job – sound advice. Something tells me I’d like Caroline a lot more if I saw her outside the presence of Teresa, Jac, and Dina…

    • Justanothermary says:

      Thanks so much for the link. It’s really interesting to know the time-line of when some the crap went down. However, I’m going to have to go bleach my eyes after seeing that pic of D holding that head – ewwwww! That is truly creepy.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        So maybe Danielle will be giving (or try to give) a demo on what happens to your scalp when extentions are yanked out…..too bad she can’t use Ashley as a demo aid.

      • dumberries says:

        It was really interesting to see the timeline laid out; puts some events and reactions in better perspective (not that anything these people do makes much sense!).

  66. Quincy IL says:

    Squirrels, don’t fret or get frustracted over what someone might write here. If you disagree, state your opinion. I believe that others will agree with you. It’s a consensus, but people will be who they are. Honestly, your accomplishments and growth will be recognized here.

    I know that some people have disappeared because they were unhappy that others didn’t agree with them. I think many of our older contributors will agree with me that this is part of life.

    • boston02127 says:

      @Quincy–Well said.

    • klmh says:

      Yes, well said. No one ever agrees with me on this blog and I keep coming back! 🙂

      • Quincy IL says:

        I agree with you, but I will make a greater effort to let you know. It’s good to have different people’s perspective. It enriches us all.

      • Blue Sky says:

        klmh, keep posting. I can’t remember disagreeing with something you said. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve posted something & nobody responds. Sometimes many people may read it, agree with it or not, but doesn’t matter, you took the time to send your thoughts out into the ethernet.

    • Kat says:

      I agree with your well made point. I really respect and like both you and Squirrels. (And many posters here.)

  67. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s tweet:
    @PerezHilton I love that u comment on pop culture, but drop the “nutjob” adjective. I don’t appreciate it.

    Call her a druggie, call her a drunk, demented, unhinged, distraught, distracted, unglued, delirious, irrational. Just don’t call her a nut job! Yep, the only words that bother Kelly are nut job. She also writes, “crazy, I like. It makes me appear mysterious and sexy”.

    Mysterious? No Kelly, you tweet your life away and you’ve proven you’d do anything to get your leather mug in the press. Sexy? No Kelly, You’re a hugh over tanned man-woman with 80’s hair and bad cloths.

    • Quincy IL says:

      I had recorded an old NYC and watched Kelly tell Jill about the faux donation to the charity from Giles. Kelly face was the least attractive at that table. Her nose is odd, her face too thin. For all of her career, the photographers must have changed her face in the final photos because she does not look like the person in the ads that she put on her web site.

      All these years, I could have been a famous NYC taste and style maker if I had only known about “touch ups.”

      • Had Enough! says:

        I think she was mostly a “parts model.” Specifically her legs. There are some ads that show her face, but most don’t. She would have been modeling from about 15-25, and she’s now what? 42? So she was born in about 68, would have started her career in 83. Those were the days of pretty, perfect models – Cheryl Tiegs, Carol Alt, Christie Brinkley, and Elle MacPherson. Someone with the apparent flaws – very apparent – would never have made it. I am sure she didn’t have the bizarre abdomen back then, but the shoulders were certainly big back then. The nose certainly had a fleshy misshapen tip back then. Now, of course, they can work miracles with photoshop, but her time has largely passed. Too late for that.

        OMG! I just found a bit of her elite portfolio:

        http://www.modelscomposites.com/fullsize.php?count=22

        How freaky is this? If you didn’t know who it was you would think it was a guy! OMG another thought. Maybe Kelly was born with ambiguous genitalia and male chromosomes and maybe 1979 was the year the reassignment surgery took place?

        This would explain a lot! Like the obsession with insanely short skirts and ruffles – trying to prove she’s really a girl.

        Don’t you find it funny that no one asks Kelly to blog other HoWife shows? She’s the writer, isn’t she? I am dying to know how she is going to copy Bethenny in the book biz – after all, Bethenny’s books have WORDS in them. Words formed into SENTENCES formed into PARAGRAPHS. And they make sense. Not like slapping a bunch of photos (taken by others) into a “book” and adding some captions.

  68. boston02127 says:

    Have a good day everyone. I hate (really hate) to sound like Kelly but……………..
    Take a pledge today! http://www.specialolympics.org/r-word.aspx

  69. vilzvet says:

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=32898&id=1832274094&l=caeb43f280

    Pics of Kelly B and Kelly Ripa from the horse show. It’s a Facebook album because there are so many!

    • cusi77 says:

      Vilzvet_ Did you actually take those pics.?

      • Char212 says:

        Great pics vilsvet! Thanks for sharing. Yes cusi, she told us she was going there yesterday and was going to take pics. She posted upthread about her day there.

        • vilzvet says:

          Yes I felt like a secret agent taking these pics, trying not to be obvious! The only one I asked for was Kelly R. and her daughter. I will not be going back later in the week unfortunately when Bruuucccceee Springsteen will be there to see his daughter compete. And I did not spot LuAnn at all, I have to check the results list to see if her daughter did anything yesterday.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Great job – Kelly is so intensely into this! Your pictures are great – Kelly Ripa is so cute.

      • vilzvet says:

        Thank you! It was a really nice day. The funny part was saving and renaming all the pictures because I had unexpectedly had TWO Kellys to deal with, not just one. I also wish Kelly R. had her sons with her, they are sooooo cute! But they weren’t present, like Kelly’s daughters, they probably would’ve been bored.

        • anniieee says:

          They were great pics…and Kelly ripa and Mark and Lola are soooo cute. Was sad at the pic of Sea/Teddy? dont know which one..hugging momma and she had her back turned and arms folded…hope she turned around and hugged her back. Thanks for sharing!!

  70. MAMAZ says:

    Good morning everyone. I was away for the weekend so this is the first I’ve been on. Looks like I missed a lot of excitment.

    I disagree that this season of RHNJ has less drama than the other franchises. All the same things happened on NJ as on OC, NY, ATL ,DC and BGM? Trips, weddings, lunches, babies, issues with parents and with children. I think the real problem is that we just don’t like these women. We don’t want to go on vacation with them. We don’t want to celebrate their children’s births or birthdays. We don’t feel any sympathy when one of them is betrayed by a friend.

    Part 1 of the reunion tonight. I think Teresa says “Don’t bring up my family.” Not break up. And Caroline of course tells Danielle she isn’t allowed to mention Dina, lol. What makes these women think they get to call all the shots on the reunion?
    And then we see Danielle bellowing “one at a time!” and Teresa mocking her.
    What was obvious to me after watching these clips is that none of these people have ever held a job that required them to attend a meeting. A meetings where you had to cooperate with people you don’t neccesarily like to reach a common goal. Or resolve an crisis. They don’t know how to express themselves without screaming. They each think they are the most important person there.
    At the NY reunions we saw things get heated and occasionally several people would speak at once. But they were quick to rein it in when chided by Andy or even each other. Because most of them work or have worked in the past in a professional capacity.

    I worked for a company once that had been bought out. The new CEO pitched a fit during our initial meeting. He started screaming and throwing papers around the room. Most of the execs that stayed from the previous ownership got up and walked out. He yelled that if they left they wouldn’t have a job anymore. One man turned and said , “No I just won’t have a job with you. But when you are gone, I’ll be back.” I was young and inexperienced. I stayed at the meeting terrified and near tears. And spent the next 9 or 10 months feeling the same way. But the older exec was right. The new CEO was gone within a year after nearly destorying the business. And the man who walked out came back, helped save the comapny and stayed until he retired. You can’t command respect when you behave like a thug! And you can’t run a business properly when you don’t have the respect of your employees.

    ALL the NJ houswives behave like thugs. They don’t respect each other and we don’t respect them. They don’t entertain or amuse us. Mostly they make us feel uncomfortable or bored.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      It goes beyond being a professional – they have no manners!
      They interrupt each other, they clearly don’t listen to the questions being asked because they don’t take the time to form an intelligent answer. They scream, shout and make demands that they clearly are in no position to make. Every last one of them needs a time out and another lesson in polite conversation.

  71. Quincy IL says:

    Danielle living in a house with leaky sinks and water damage just bothered me so much. I took classes at Home Depot and had some knowledge passed down from my family so I do a lot of repairs around here. In June, every day I got on my scaffolds and painted my house when I got home from the hospital. I just couldn’t live with the mess she lived in when many repairs like the faucet are so easy to fix.

    • Blue Sky says:

      Quincy, you are really something. A scientific whiz at the hospital (read what you do downthread), wonder woman fixer upper, and you have horses & know how to muck out a stall. I think NASA needs you on the space station!

      • Quincy IL says:

        I applied to NASA in 1976. They requested an interview in 1978, but I was pregnant and decided to stay in IL.

  72. Had Enough! says:

    The old eps are on and I have to say you people are right. We don’t know the origin of the problem between Danielle and Dina. It could be just plain “I don’t like you” or it could be that Dina knows that Danielle knows something that she doesn’t want aired. Dina is talking about Danielle spreading rumors about her, but I don’t think we ever learn what those rumors were.

    Good think the lady in this kid’s clothing store got paid in cash.

    • cusi77 says:

      Had enough_ Me too I am watching the old episodes of RHONJ… I am paying close attention to Teresa’s jewelry… I am a Jeweler and I can tell you… that tennis bracelet she was wearing at the store with the girls… IS REAL! Where are those pieces of jewelry if they just have “the wedding” rings in the auction???

      • Blue Sky says:

        Exactly, where are the “crown jewels?” Recently T admitted that they had “all their jewels stolen” and received $120,000 from the insurance company. This did not jibe with the $20,000 that was reported on their bankruptcy documents. T then has the nerve to say the insurance company inflated the true value. What?? These people have been cheating everyone for years. They planned the bankruptcy, not putting off their creditors, and then ramping up the spending on credit cards, etc. to the max. IMO, they belong in jail.

        • cusi77 says:

          Ditto!

        • Blue Sky says:

          oops, putting = paying! and may I add “alledgedly” to the above, it is all JMHO = “just my honest opinion!”

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          I wish that trustee would have the episodes gone over frame by frame and then ask the questions again. All her jewelry was stolen so match the police report to the insurance report! What is on the show should be purchased after the “theft” so where is all the bling she has been wearing – costume my a$$!

  73. Wall St Lady says:

    I hate stupid people who come up to an existing conversation between several people & start going on about a light silly topic while interrupting a serious & personal discussion.
    Squirrels up stream my post popped into ur concerns about the rude guest & I wanted to say although not my in tension. Sorry !

  74. Wall St Lady says:

    “Get Ready to Rumble”

    Squirrels I promise if that FOOL ,who ever she is, is inconsiderate in any way I will say to her “Hey Bitch I am gonna pin u down !” Now Trasha didn’t say what she would do but I would have lye soap & I would wash her mouth out good ! She would remember her words & regret them.
    Look we have an opportunity here to give her a piece of our minds (which Rock). I have gained a sensitivity from u I didn’t have b4 & I so appreciate that. Basically we r all imperfect folks just looking to get better. I have gotten better by my LynFam (Lynn Family) & I am so grateful. Who knows maybe we can even convert her to a higher standard. Less than 2 months ago I cam on board & introduced a topic that was not popular to the point I felt ambushed. I cried. Thankfully Lynn intervened like an omnipresent angel. The point is you LynFam will defend u like the tigresses we r.
    I am sensitive to people who say :some version of :I want to go kill myself or a joke like suicide would be the best option for him he is so lost. U get my point. I had a 17 year old brother who took a gun & shot him self. “Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem”. I still live w/a 17 year old boy who is always w/m. And I wish I had been kinder his last day on earth but I was only 15 & I have totally forgiven myself. When there is a scuffle w/ anyone I am the 1st one to seek peace. Enough about me. I just want u you know GOOD will come out of this & U R NOT ALONE !
    God can make good out of any bad thing. & I am living proof.
    U Rock Rock Rock !
    Big Kiss Bigger Hug

    • Blue Sky says:

      Squirrels, don’t worry. If that “guest blogger” gets outta line the response will be thundering. Maybe Lynn should go over the blog first, so nothing offensive will be in there? Whatever happens, you know we won’t let anything slide by.
      Love all your comments, so don’t even think about leaving, please!

      WSL, Quincy, Mamaz, Boston(s), Hadenough, Needahobby, TrueLifeDiva, Di,Cusi,Char,Vilzvet,klmh,dumberries,windycitywondering,realcityhousewife, Noelle,lilybee,anitabee,anniieee,emt2,kirksvilleMo,Sha2000,felonystupid,scorpiosue,MNsue, TLM, tuzentswurth,kit,katz2,Dani,ZipitZarin,icantstandthetoxicity,Kansasgirl, Error, Olivia,Mickey and so many more, make this blog special. All thanks to Lynn who started her blog, giving us all a special place to communicate.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      WSL-
      It wasn’t that your topic wasn’t valid. But we had just had a troll on earlier in the blog that was being crazy and insulting everyone
      Then WSL Man posted, and it just looked to me like more absurd ramblings, I get it now and understand what was happening at the time.
      It really wasn’t the topic that was being posted but the way it was posted. I was wicked PMS (why does it get worse when you get older?) and just wanted to FIGHT.
      Again I feel like a Piece of Sh*t, and I apologize that anything I wrote put you in tears.

      I am also so sorry to hear about your brother. The light of my life, my soul mate on earth, the man I thought I would spend the rest of my life with…my angel…well, I guess he really is an angel now, as he also took his life. The pain is still with me, I still cry into my pillow at night when the anniversary of his death comes.
      Such a waste.

  75. Wall St Lady says:

    Qioncy what do u do at the hospital. I am Aug 1 BL. (B4 Lynn)

    • Quincy IL says:

      Microbiology/Immunology… Fluorescence microscopy, histology, DNA pathogen identification… I have lab techs helping too…but I like hands on…

  76. Ellabean says:

    Good Morning everyone. As usual routine, as an east coaster I catch up morning of the next day – after reading evening before of great great posts – that go from the interesting snark of reality Tv to the utmost poignant personal.

    Squirrels – I have your back too. I was very moved by your posts about said word. Pls know.

    Wall Street – I am so glad you are here .

    Sometimes I feel a bit left out – which is silly. My own issues. But I hope that I can be included here too.

    All the best to everyone – and thank you so much Lynn for this blog. Such good writers here – so many interesting personal lives – stories – life experiences.

    I am leaving another TV blog ( not referring to TWoP) – after over 2 years of posting and a little family that developed there. That blog has sadly dwindled down for various reasons. Some people that were friends got into it with each other – peeps got pissed off – some lines were drawn in the sand. Not nice. Hurt everyone that remained. I hope to some how participate and fit into the wonderful group I am seeing here – when , where I can. Thank you all.

    • Blue Sky says:

      Ellabean, missed your name above. Love your comments too, we must convince Squirrels that without her, this space wouldn’t be the same. I am becoming a better person because of some of the bloggers here, getting new points of view, & learning a lot from the stories well told here.

      • Ellabean says:

        Oh Blue Sky – fellow Jersey gal (and Laura too, right ?). So very nice of you – I did not take it as slight not to have my name on your shout out above. My goodness – all great names and I ‘d be hardpressed to name everybody here. Big fan of yours too !
        Ditto on the Squirrels support.Thx much.

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      EllaBean,

      Are you kidding me? Jumping balls of Jesophat! You are one of the names I look for when I come on here! You may not pop in every day, but when you comment I love what you have to say! You fit in. Hell, you make it a better place! I, for one, and I am pretty darn sure others will second the motion, think everyone here adds to this family! Wall St. Lady is 100% correct when she calls us that! And there are no “middle children syndromes” here–you are valued and loved as is, Lady! 🙂

      • Char212 says:

        I second that motion 🙂

      • Blue Sky says:

        you too duchess, I love your style & look forward to seeing your comments.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        Beans! We love you and you always add another layer to the discussions so your opinions and observations are needed!

      • Ellabean says:

        Oh Duchess, I am humble to your Mastery of Laundry and delicious humor and wit. So sweet of you.

        • Ellabean says:

          Hugs to windy, Char, and db….so sweet. Big fan of you all.

          I wasn’t looking for shout outs – honestly – but very very nice of you all. It’s okay. Think I was just feeling a bit sad about my “other” blog – and in awe of the great minds here. Just want to fit in and find a new home.
          No middle child – ah hem. I’m an only. Maybe that ‘splains it.

      • Kat says:

        I second this. I lack the font but not the heart. 😉

        • anniieee says:

          awe… this is the best place… I truly look forward to seeing you all everyday–learning from you all…sharing your life..the ups and downs…a few tears, a lot of laughs..sending lots of prayers to a lot of our members here. You all are the best. What a wonderful bunch of people. I thank you all for including me–and allowing me to peek into your lives. We are here for each other.

          Much much love and hugs to all of you!! (feeling really warm and fuzzy and haven’t even had a cocktail.)

  77. cusi77 says:

    Have a great day everyone! First day of Fall Semester. Catch up with you this evening!

  78. Wall St Lady says:

    Gosh ellabean I already love u , ur husband & ur dog !

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      Oh man, he says that tonight we see Teresa flip out, and that the last 10 minutes of part 2 are the best-so here is my fantasty–wouldn’t it be wonderful if THAT is when Danielle is fired—ON CAMERA—not that I am commenting on if she should be fired or not, I’m just saying that if he got to yell “YA KNOW WHAT, YOU ARE OUTTA HERE!” to just one of them it would be brilliant! Any one of them.

    • Blue Sky says:

      One of the comments after this article called Andy the “Jerry Springer” to the housewives. So true, but he needs to control the hw’s better, and get them to answer our questions! Tired of seeing the firework antics and no resolution to what we, the viewers want answered.

  79. Justanothermary says:

    See ya all later – off to chemo therapy – UGH!!! I’d rather do cart wheels, drink beer and eat gumberries!

  80. Laura aka Just done says:

    OK…I have to post this since so many reacted to the announcement of the guest blogger. I know the word she uses offensively, and I have to state my opinion. If there was a blogger who came on here and used the “N” word, she would not be allowed to guest blog. Why is it that this person can throw the word “retard” around and people not be as offended. I will not read the guest blog, and I might also be gone for awhile.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      Well.

      Now I really don’t know what to do.

      Squirrels is right about everything she’s posted.

      And I am concerned that this guest blogger didn’t acknowledge that she had used a completely unacceptable term in her guest blog.

      She was an assh*le not respond to Squirrels in a more positive way.

      But shock comedians are trying to build up controversy, so have developed a thick skin, and a “who care’s what you think” attitude.

      It doesn’t in any way make it right but she may have been flip and cavalier to save face, but will be more careful , or completely change her use of that word in the future.

      So…let’s not do the time before someone does the crime.

    • kats2 says:

      I totally agree Laura. It’s Lynn’s home I’m just a visitor but my preference would be to read Lynn’s blog/recap and this other guest blogger that so many of us find offensive can be a link (if even that) for the few who would like to read it. For me even if the guest blogger cleans up the specific offensive language, the attitude she/he had about the sitation was just as offensive so frankly I will stay away until a new blog is posted and we are past this.

      • Laura aka Just done says:

        Problem with this blogger is she knows she offensive – she made a statement on Twitter saying that Lynn was going to lose half of her following after her guest blog. I can’t understand why she would be allowed to blog knowing full well that she is trying to offend people.

        • OneMoreinBoston says:

          The twitter comment may have been a form of advertising for her blog to garner more attention for herself and may not be indicative of what she will post here. Sort of like ” …stay tuned!”

          I’m going to have to trust Lynn on this and see what come of it.

          • Char212 says:

            The fact that she thinks Lynn would lose half of her followers after she posts her blog is offensive to me. Why would she do that to Lynn who graciously allows her to guest blog in the first place. Is she trying to make Lynn lose followers?

        • kats2 says:

          @Laura – I know and for me that makes this “blogger” a troll. But it is up to Lynn, all we can do is ignore it and stay away while it’s happening. Besides I’d rather be on twitter letting the NJ HW’s directly know what I think of them vs reading or supporting someone elses rage filled rant.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        As Lynn points out – skip over what you don’t find interesting. Vote accordingly and get the the real party – dishing on NJ Reunion Part One!

    • JazzNightOut says:

      I have been thinking the same thing about the “N” word. I wouldn’t stay on a blog that allowed that word to be cavalierly thrown around, so why stay when another word which is offensive to so many is used cavalierly.

      Back when Otaypanky was popping in here under different names, I assumed that Lynn allowed her to be here because even after being banned, she would show up. I wrote to Lynn and learned that Lynn was trying really hard to get her off. I misjudged Lynn at that time. I am going to wait to see how this is handled by Lynn in fairness to her. But if the word is used again as offensively as it was last time, I have some issues about being part of a blog which allows that to happen.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      The first time she blogged, I was underwelmed – it didn’t entertain me, she yelled at Teresa more than she made observations about her actions. My personal preference is more tougue in cheek – there are so many clever ways to get a point across…. What bothers me is that the responses to her blog were treated to the same vitrol that she spews Teresa’s way! Offending the readers will not gain her a following – an apology would have gone a long way…..

      • dumberries says:

        Yes, and there were a lot of positive responses to her first guest blog (which surprised me, but to each his/her own). Looked like a lot of her twitter followers came to the sight and praised the blog… For me, it wasn’t just the offensive use of the term, it was the explosive tone and lack of insight that also turned me off to reading any more of her blogs. She has the right to come here and blog what she wants if Lynn invites her. We have the right to respond, or just not read it.

      • klmh says:

        Ah, that’s why I can’t remember the word being used in a derogatory way. When I first started to read this lady’s summation, I just skipped over it because it was so poorly written and was more of a rant than a synopsis of the hour long show.
        Since everyone is so angered by this person, why not just skip her version of the reunion, read someone else’s, and then come back to voice your own opinion? That’s what I plan to do anyway.
        I grew up with “mental retardation” being the catch-all for the mentally challenged . In nursing school, this was the phrase used by those in the medical field, as well as those whose family members were afflicted. It was not offensive to use this phrase! God, I am probably making someone mad now. I mean no offense, and am sorry it brings so many harsh and negative comments to this board, but I do not know the context of the word in her sentence, and am glad I missed her poorly written blog.

        • dumberries says:

          klmh: Yeah, I don’t think it was in the blog itself – it was in her replies to comments that came later that night (if I recall the sequence correctly).

  81. Wall St Lady says:

    “We are Family !
    I got all my Sisters & me”
    (Music playing loudly & WSL singing just as loud”
    LynnFam Rocks !

  82. Wall St Lady says:

    One Mo Bo (one more Boston)
    One of my best tickles from this blog is our nicknames.
    I didn’t even remember it was u. Besides I went through a stage as a kid where I bit every play mate I had. They have forgiven me but continue to call me the shark.
    My bro passed 42 years ago & it hasn’t stopped hurting. I wish I could say “this to will pass”. But I do believe one day that child will embrace a very old woman & say “I ‘ve been watching You & u did a good job & I am sorry I left u too soon & so abruptly”.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      WSL, that is beautiful. Thank you for saying that.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      oh WSL…

      misty eyed

      I hope he thinks I’m doing a good job, I try and represent him as best I can

      he has to see me trying

      miss him so much- it still feels like a knife in my stomach when I think that he could do this, would do this

      the light had gone out of his eyes, but I didn’t know what to do

      • Kat says:

        That feeling of helplessness, not being able to fix it, makes depression so hard to cope with. It scars everyone I think.

  83. Wall St Lady says:

    Lynn Where r u ? Your flock is all over the place & bellowing loudly.
    There may be a wolf lurking near by. Somebody may need the hook. Or someone may need a ride on ur shoulders. (Religious pun intended)

    • Blue Sky says:

      I’ve seen too many miracles here on earth not to believe in an afterlife with God. It’s those beliefs that keep me going. Every thing we do here on earth does affect what will be. WSL, you will be reunited with your brother. When the pain gets too much, hold on to that thought.

      There are angels guiding us, just open up your heart & listen…what we suffer here on earth should enable us to help others & become a better person.

      My husband often tells me, “what I am is God’s gift to me. What I become is my gift to God.”

  84. Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

    Wall St. Lady,

    I have a tremedous faith in a vision I have often. When I “go to the light” My father and my son will be waiting for me in a Bass Boat, and the lake will have nothing less than 5 pounders in it! Problem is, my Grandmother will be screaming about wearing life jackets and not bringing those “filthy” fish into her afterlife home! LOL

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      laughing in my tears

    • dumberries says:

      You have a wonderful way with words Duchess. Your post yesterday also inspired me to clean my house last night (long overdue) and tackle the piles of dirty laundry occupying my study. Still working on that one, but the piles are dwindling down…

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        I am down to a vacuum, and a bedspread for the laundry. Avoiding it like the plague today—doing homework instead. Just got 2 exam results back and they were A’s YIPPEE!!!!

        And thanks for the kind comments. I have always enjoyed writing–comes to me in the blood I guess. Family full of great story tellers, I won’t even try to compete with them—they are the best!

  85. TrueLifeDiva says:

    In regards to the blogger who is promising to offend us…
    I am someone who has worked with the disabled and mentally challenged for the past ten years, and I have a cousin who is struggling as a single parent to an Autistic son.
    I just want to say this. If this BITCH can dish it, by golly she better be able to take it. It’s one thing to unknowingly offend, it’s another to do it on purpose. Folks might see another side of me after this. My given name is Saint but I can show you hell too…

    • MAMAZ says:

      I’m not sure who the guest blogger is, I don’t recognize the name. If I understand what others have said she’s a stand up comic so the word is being used to shock. Okay, I get it. I will even defend a comics use of certain words in certain context. Sometimes it is to take the sting out of the word, to reduce it’s power. But I can’t see how using it to describe Teresa would accomplish that. Using it to insult Teresa also insults people who don’t CHOOSE to live in a self centered bubble of ignorance. Many who have far more eagerness to learn, self awareness, morals and capacity for giving and loving than any of the Housewives.

      I think we all agree that using the R word is offensive. When I saw it used in a comment several blogs ago I nicely asked the commenter not to use that word in the future. She apologized and agreed. It was a civilized exchange with a great outcome.

      Let’s ask the same of the guest blogger –
      Please don’t use that word. It is as bad as the N word , as bad as the F** word. It’s demeaning and encourages contempt. Some of the regular guests of this blog have particular reasons to be hurt by the use of this word. Out of respect for us and respect for Lynn we are asking you NOT to repeat the word on this blog. We hope you will reconsider using it at all in any forum but at the very least not here.

      That’s all we can do for now. Let’s wait and see what happens before we go all Teresa on her ass.

      • JazzNightOut says:

        I think that this request is very fair, especially because you explain the ‘why’ for the request. I will wait to see what happens.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      well, we know your eyeliner and eyebrows aren’t going to run if you have to take off your earrings and smear some vaseline on your face!

      btw, I did that once, you know, tried to be a tough girl, and not only did my makeup run , I got Vaseline in my eyes and couldn’t even see the hits coming. Then I broke out for two weeks from the Vaseline. I was ugly, inside and out!

      I’ll stick to verbal jabs from now on

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      Go on Diva! I have 6 foot 200 pounds that I will throw behind you! Yeah, I am a WHOLE lotta woman coming at you LOL LOL LOL (and the 200 is shrinking as we speak–down 35 already!—-But I did have a small strawberry shortcake last night–I aint no saint either 😉 )

      • MAMAZ says:

        Good for you Duchess! We love you whatever you weigh, but we are happy that you are getting healthier.
        By the way strawberry shortcake isn’t that bad. Just go heavy on the berries, light on the cake. I make the old fashioned Bisquick kind. It’s fairly low fat. After I split the cake I only use half, as many berries as I want and Fat free cool whip.

        • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

          Unless, of course, you masserate the berries in grandmarnier and sugar—-I don’t do anything half assed! LOL

    • tuzentswurth says:

      OMG Patti…STFU. If you know it, just do it yourself. You could have done within the time frame of this self-absorbed rant. Patti, you need medication!

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Oh that’s effin’ lovely. So classy. LOL

      What’s really funny is that Patti is SO concerned with what she wears and yet whatever she picks and wears in public, she still winds up looking like a ho. The problem isn’t her body, it’s just that she has no taste, no grace. And do something with that hair!

      Is Stanger in Elle’s September issue? The mind boggles. They’ll need Industrial Light & Magic’s special effects team to make that look good. Oh, here it is…..ironically, the Elle piece is about Stanger and Joe Zee “styling” women (this season’s Millionaire Matchmaker castmates) for a first date. Now you just know Elle’s little elves and Joe did all the work. And pulled in their photoshop team for classy Patti.

      http://www.elle.com/Fashion/Fashion-Spotlight/Style-A-to-Zee-Joe-Zee-vs.-Patti-Stanger
      http://www.elle.com/Fashion/Fashion-Spotlight/Style-A-to-Zee-Joe-Zee-vs.-Patti-Stanger/Joe-and-Patti-s-Date-Makeovers

      Oh Elle, you dumped Nina Garcia and then lost the Project Runway association to Marie Claire who had the sense to hire Garcia. Now dapper Joe has to embrace the Stanger and look like he likes it.

      • Blue Sky says:

        It looked to me like Patti took these girls & turned them into hookers…that last brunch outfit was especially hideous! Yech, who would want to be styled by this skank. Joe Zee’s looks were so much better!

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      Holy crap! No wonder she and Foghorn are good friends. Twins.

  86. Wall St Lady says:

    Duchess I am already crying. U r so good at turning the tear to a chuckle.
    Thanks

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      Laughter through tears is my favorite emotion! 🙂

      I have just always known that God (or whatever name you use) has a purpose. It may not be known to us, but he DOES have one. So if you can find just a little laughter in the tearful moments, that is called Grace, and it happens in it’s own time. It is his gift to me and lets me just get on with things, even when the times are really rough. Joy will triumph in the end, if you are willing to let it in. End of Sermon LOL

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        P.S. Joy will triumph ….. One of my Grandma’s quotes. She lost a daughter, 2 sisters and a brother at a young age…she was wise beyond her time, and a pistol to boot!

      • tuzentswurth says:

        Lovely and well said. 😉

  87. Lovebeth says:

    how funny is this tweet from Kelly. Is she finally admitting to her obsession to Bethenny?

    #somewhereintheworld a baby is being born, someone is getting married, someone is feeling love, and someone is wishing they had what u have
    about 2 hours ago via web

    • dumberries says:

      @Lovebeth, I’m just impressed that she expressed a coherent thought and used all of her words properly in context!

    • Ellabean says:

      Wow. It might indeed by a reference to Bethenny. She chose this sequence of events: baby – then marriage. Could Kelly be having a ‘break through’ at long last?

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      someone is tweeting for Kelly! or she read that in a magazine…..that is so not an original thought!

    • Scorpiosue1102 says:

      Kelly and I went around about her veiled digs at Bethenny. When asked her why she did it she didn’t deny it but said that she was an excellent judge of character. I then responded that it was kind of stalkerish.

      Kelly is DEFINITELY digging at Bethenny and to use a Kelly word…it is downright “creepy”.

      • Kat says:

        Kelly can be stalkerish. It is sad that Kelly chooses to make her jealousy public and emphasize her character flaws.

  88. WindyCityWondering says:

    OMG – Teresa is saying that Danielle is defensive and lashes out because she has a guilty conscious…….so does that mean Teresa’s current behavior is because she has a guilty conscious????

    • MAMAZ says:

      No, Teresa is OFFENSIVE and lashes out because she has NO conscious.

      • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

        duchess snorts and spits coffee on the desk. Nice One!

        • Kat says:

          I had to stop reading this blog and drinking anything at the same time. I usually read quietly… but not this blog.
          I used to mind my own business but now I’m all up in HW business. 😉

  89. tuzentswurth says:

    On the topic of the NY bunch wanting more money…Remember how refreshing it was to meet Sonja? I say just move on to new people, I am tired of these people trying to “act” and ” bring drama”. That is what tires these shows out. Look how stupid OC got. Now NJ and please, no more Jill and Kelly.

  90. aedgar1244 says:

    This is in response to Teresa’s “F**K HATERS” blog titled “F**K YOU TOO TERESA:”

    For a long time now Teresa, I’ve wanted to tell you those of

    Us who really liked you from the beginning

    Cannot, in good conscience,

    Keep supporting you with your over-the-top spending habits.

    You have filed for bankruptcy and yet you are still shown

    Outspending even the wealthiest (who really have money).

    Unbelievable!

    Today’s economy is rough

    On everyone.

    Other’s are doing their best just to make ends meet; not you.

    Teresa what you are doing is a slap in the face to your fans.

    Each time we see you, you spend like you’re a millionnaire, but

    Remember, Karma is a b!tch!

    Enough with the charade.

    Stop pretending you are really the lady of the manor.

    And be careful of what you write, it gives people ideas.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      so @aedgar1244…

      how do you really feel?

      Love the rant!

      • aedgar1244 says:

        LOL! Thanks. I wrote that way back when she first wrote her blog but Bravo wouldn’t post it in the comments section. I have a brand new one for her now.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      too cool! loved it! send it to her website…..bet she doesn’t get it even with the capital letteres lined up. IMO – I always thought that Ashley had a hand in that blog.

    • tuzentswurth says:

      Love it. I don’t think T could write a sentence that long and then write her paragraph to match. You summed it all up very nicely! Kudos

  91. tuzentswurth says:

    Picture on Reality Tea from Aug 28, Jill holding a tennis racquet……..what the heck is KKB wearing? It looks like she has a pillow stuffed up in her boobs? Weird photo, weird dress, weird Kelly.

    • Pantry Viewer says:

      “They’ve got a lot more to say,” Jill Zarin (on Reality Tea, her name is crossed through, but that didn’t copy over here) a source close to the Housewives tells the Post, adding that the ladies “have little choice but to pimp themselves out with side gigs to bump up their earnings.”

      That just cracks me up that they “x’d” out Jill Zarin and then said “a source”. She is so transparent.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        She’s so transparent and yet thinks she’s so clever. If the Foghorn seriously asked for $30K an episode, I’m surprised I in California didn’t hear the Shed Media/Bravo execs laughing their asses off in NYC.

  92. Quincy IL says:

    Ladies and Gents…. there is no problem with the guest blogger. Simply boycott the blog. We could order a sit in, but we are probably all sitting when reading this anyway.
    Maybe, that’s the best time for a sit in…

    Just post… I did not read it.

    Then, move on.

    • Had Enough! says:

      I agree. The world is full of people who say things we don’t like and do things we don’t like. You can ignore them or engage them, but you can’t make them go away. Me, I prefer to ignore. I have learned after decades of trying that they aren’t going to change and all it does is upset me. Some prefer to fight. But they aren’t going away. There is always another one to take their place. I skip a whole lot of stuff. Think of it as fast forwarding through the blog. You know – like you do when the Sasquatch is on your screen.

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        And as I explain this over and over again to my children (and husband), I add the following “May you never be the cheese – as the cheese stands alone!”

    • klmh says:

      Absolutely. Great post++++

      • Quincy IL says:

        My first chance to agree. rotfl. I was going to compliment you, but it’s embarrassing to agree with this one. rotfl…

        I hope you have a wonderful day, klmh.

  93. boston02127 says:

    Kelly’s tweet— Observer playground thank u for talking to me

    As much of a snark a** as I am, I can’t bring myself to make fun of this.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      The NY Observer Playground is a publication. They must have interviewed Kelly.

      Look who was on their June cover: http://www.observer.com/playground

      (Wanna bet Kelly contacted them and asked for an interview?)

      • dumberries says:

        Way to put the dots together! Now the tweet and Kiki’s desire to “talk to them” make complete sense. She really is obsessive…

        • Need a Hobby says:

          I sometimes read the regular NY Observer online. So I figured Kiki was talking about something related to that mag.

          Imagine my surprise when I hit on their Playground pub link and saw Bethenny on the June cover!

          Kelly clearly has issues…..her apparent obsession with Bethenny and her attempts to emulate her are “creepy.” Seriously.

          I know people speculated & joked, etc. about it. But after seeing that, it’s real IMO. Creeped me out.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            While it is very creepy – think about this – all Kelly wanted was Mr Right…then she wanted a baby…..Bethenny had those wishes literally fall in her lap! Add hughly successful businesses, A list media attention and her own show. Kelly probably wants to skin her and wear her like last year’s Bethenny! The more successful B is the more stalkerella Kelly becomes.

      • boston02127 says:

        @ Need a Hobby—I did not know that. Thank you. I pictured Kelly alone in a park and some stranger striking up a conversation with her and her later thanking him on tweeter.

        • Need a Hobby says:

          boston: A normal person like you and me would think that…at first.

          But we’re talking Kelly here….so on second thought, I remembered the NY Observer and Kelly who would do almost anything for attention and bingo.

          Seriously, when I saw that B was on the cover of the Observer Playground’s June issue, I got the spidery tingles. I’m not saying Kelly would go all “Play Misty For Me” but B clearly represents something to her. It’s not B as an actual person, IMO, but something else.

          More like Dina’s “Does she want to be me?” Whatever it is, it’s creepy.

          I do suspect Kelly approached the mag for an interview or item rather than the other way around.

          • WindyCityWondering says:

            spooky – I had a Dina thought too!

          • OneMoreinBoston says:

            OMG you’re right- this girl IS getting/has always been creepy!

            No really, this is starting to freak me out!

            She’s like the crazy character in Single white female!

  94. Suebhoney says:

    ewwwww….this was blurb on Reality Tea: There is also a rumor that has been going around for the past couple of weeks stating that Teresa’s husband Joe Giudice has been having an affair with a Jersey woman named Tara G. We received an email about this a while back, with someone telling us that everyone in the Giudices hometown is aware of this woman and the affair, including Teresa.

    We didn’t publish this as there was no proof attached to the email. So, if there’s anyone out there with proof, photos, last names, facebook pages etc, Please feel free to email us the details using our site contact page or at Realitytea@yahoo.com.

    How very interesting! You just know after a first name and last name initial is out…the rest of the story (in the spirit of Paul Harvey) isn’t far behind! No wonder T is such a raving lunatic! She’s pissed that her man (icky man) is steppin’ out!

    • Suebhoney says:

      Okay…I obviously don’t know how to use HTML tags…the last para is mine and shouldn’t be italicized. I suck…But Joe Giudice sucks more! ha!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      A majority of my relatives live in a very small town – when I visits the stories I hear are amazing! Who is stepping out with who, etc. So Joe has never struck me as a discreet guy and Teresa’s ever increasingly violent behavior may be because it is getting to be public knowledge and she will have to either let it be or divorce the fireplug. Debt might be the only thing that is keeping them together at this point.

  95. boston02127 says:

    Page Six has reported the Real Housewives of New York City want more money or are threatening not to return next season.

    This is a well-known negotiating tactic used by the Real Housewives. Kim Zolciak and Nene Leakes did the same thing before returning to the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Vicki Gunvalson, the longest tenured “Real Housewife” now filming her sixth season of Real Housewives of Orange County, made more money and had more comps than the other housewives. Jeana Keough expected the same salary hike Vicki received, her request was rejected and she was featured on season 5 for only a couple of episodes.

    Truth is, these famewhores will come back for fifty cents. Remember the original premise of the franchise? Rich women living in luxury in gated communities that we were all supposed to envy as we watched their extravagant lives unfold in our livingrooms. In the meantime, we have:

    Foreclosures and Short Sales: Tamra Barney, Teresa Giudice, Sheree Whitfield, Lisa Wu Hartwell, Alexis Bellino

    Near-foreclosures: Jeana Keough, Peggy Tanous (the newest Orange County housewife)

    Evictions: Lynne Curtin (three in one year) Nene Leakes, Michaele Salahi from Oasis Winery

    Bankruptcy: Teresa Giudice

    Divorces and Near- Divorces: DeShawn Snow, Tamra Barney, NeNe Leakes, LuAnn de Lesseps, Jeana Keough, Catherine Ommanney,Camille Grammer

    Adult Children Behaving Badly: Bryson Bryant, son of NeNe Leakes, arrested at least twice, Josh Waring, son of Lauri Waring, in jail now. Ashley Holmes, daughter of Jacqueline Laurita, charged with assault in the weave pulling incident.

    On the other hand, some of them have had great opportunities come their way because of these shows: Bethenny Frankel has turned her stint on the Real Housewives of New York City into a multi-million dollar corporation, selling everything from books, booze to baby must-have items, and the only one with a life interesting enough for a spin-off series.

    Some have been allowed to “sing”, and teach us all about the use of auto-tune. Most have books, with varying degrees of success. Let’s face it, except for the circles they run in, who would have ever heard of these women? they also need to remember they don’t attract the MTV generation, they are the big spenders. Television is all about the advertising. Some markets don’t even carry Bravo. Take the money and run, ladies.

    from–absurdtosublime

  96. boston02127 says:

    Jill Zarin Tells Us Why She’s Turned Against Michaele Salahi & Who’s Going To Rule ‘DC!’

    http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2010/08/30/jill-zarin-michaele-salahi-mary-schmidt-amons-real-housewives-dc/

    • Had Enough! says:

      Figures that Jill doesn’t care about the Salahis being grifters and crashing the WH. No. The only reason she doesn’t like Michaela is because Missy is passive aggressive. Great values, Jillsy.

    • sss says:

      To Zippity Zarin” 1) Who cares what you think?
      2) People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

  97. icantstandthetoxicity says:

    Kim G. is at it again.

    Kimgranatell : can.t blame Barney Rubble 4 cheating. Who would want to “F” that all the time. It.s like f…ing a man F…ing her.
    less than a minute ago via TweetToGo

    • boston02127 says:

      @icantstandthetoxicity–Kim G. never bothered me until she started with her tweets. I always thought she was a looney toon but now I think she’s a pig too. She could have easily tweeted exactly what she did by wording it differently.

      • icantstandthetoxicity says:

        @boston02127: Kim G’s tweets are an act of desperation. She is trying to start a fight with Teresa so she can become a “Real Housewife”. I think Teresa is aware of Kim G’s motives and she isn’t taking the bait.

      • kats2 says:

        @boston2127 funny Kim G always bothered me, but I’m enjoying some of these tweets about Teresa.

    • JazzNightOut says:

      WOWsa! No subtlety at all, lol.

    • dumberries says:

      I’m not an twitter, just wondering:
      does this Kim G take credit for these tweets? Is this definitely her account and not an imposter? I find it so hard to believe that anyone her age would really be tweeting this stuff…

      • Sha2000 says:

        Jacqueline tweets are just as stupid but in a diffrent way:

        “I’m in the city and my phone is going to die. I have no charger.:0(”

        I tweeted back:
        So stop tweeting & save your battery.

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        I don’t think class automatically comes with age 😀

        • dumberries says:

          So true. Guess if this was an imposter, Kim G would have publicly asked him/her to stop already… You know what she is? She’s a clown! (I just love that word again, it’s making a comeback with me)…

          • Sha2000 says:

            I think it’s her. She’s tweeted when she was just going out w/friends & that she had crashed the party & that pics will follow.

          • Zipit Zarin says:

            LOL Clowns are scary and so is she. She’s funny in a classless way. Kinda like Kathy Griffin and Joan Rivers. ;o0

            • Justanothermary says:

              I HAVE to think that the Kim G twitters aren’t actually her. I mean she’s demented, but those tweets are truly nasty. Wouldn’t a woman of her age and station have SOME manners. But then she went to Jac’s and swore like a sailor infront of a baby sooooo . . .

      • Need a Hobby says:

        Jacqueline tweeted back to her the other day when Kim G was on a roll. So I think it’s Kim G for real and the stuff she says lines up with her real life activities, etc. It’s also consistent with her other behavior.

        My guess is Kim G’s got piles of money, lots of time, is probably 3 sheets to the wind most of the time and doesn’t give a flying fu…..fig. She got a hobby. 😉

        • dumberries says:

          Need A Hobby: I read all the blogs, but only watched 4 episodes (the first one, 2 in Italy, and the clown dinner). Only piece I feel I’m missing is Kim G’s wrath at Teresa. I read about her blow up with Danielle; don’t remember Teresa being involved. Are we assuming something happened between Teresa and Kim G at the reunion, or did I miss something on the show?

          • Need a Hobby says:

            I only watched the first episode so you’ve seen more than me of that “goat rodeo.” LOL

            I don’t recall reading about a specific dust up between Kim G & Teresa? But didn’t T refer to Kim G as “old” or “elderly” somewhere? Someone else here will remember I’m sure.

            That elderly remark and probably Kim’s sheer glee at seeing Teresa’s pretensions (to wealth, etc.) unmasked likely was enough to set Kim off on this roll. Maybe there’s something else too we don’t (yet) know about.

  98. I just saw an advertisement for a new Dr Phil episode, “Dr. Phil Housewives – 6 Women, Real Issues.” Wonder who they will have as a guest? All I saw were feet.

  99. I propose a drinking game for tonight’s reunion. Just some starters….

    Drinks of choice: Bellini, Coke/red wine, Butter Baby, red wine….suggestions?

    Take a drink each time Danielle says “love and light” or “real close.”
    Take a drink each time Teresa says “foreclosure.”
    Take a drink each time Caroline says Danielle went after “the children” or “that child”
    Take a drink each time they show baby Nicholas dressed like Eminem.
    Take a drink each time Dina’s name is mentioned.
    Drain the glass when Teresa or Danielle jumps off couch.

    More???

  100. Zipit Zarin says:

    I always wanted to drink (cuz it drove me nuts) whenever one of the HWoNY said “You know what” before every sentence. Gaaaaaaaaahhhhhh

    • dumberries says:

      That’s a good one – they always do that!
      For anyone that doesn’t mind a Tuesday hangover, drink up every time Caroline says “family”…

      • Zipit Zarin says:

        I watch the Kardashians and decided to count how many times someone said “like”. I put a hash mark on paper. (I know, I’m sick) I got distracted by someone and missed a bunch so I stopped. Imina try it again next Sunday and not give up. If I drank each time I’d get alcohol poisoning and die. Like seriously, I would! “Bible!”

  101. boston02127 says:

    from Jill’s Facebook page— I have a great idea and I need your help! Let’s put together a photo album of pictures you guys took over the summer at my book signings. Pictures of me,Lisa, Gloria and pics of us with you! I can’t wait to see what you have! Please send them to Maggie at Maggierey7046@hotmail.com.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Jill is such an a$$hole – she will put all the ones she took up and claim it is from her fans. I hate Jill.

  102. I guess I’m in the minority when it comes to thinking that the Housewives should get more money.
    What Teresa did is ridiculous. But she is just the most outrageous example of what NeNe, Lynn, and probably even more of the others have done. (which is gone into hock trying to make their home look nice)
    One of the perks of being on the show is the professional make-up.
    I don’t know if they have an allowance, or how that is accounted-for, but I’m pretty sure that make-up is gratis.
    Designer duds and accessories? If anyone knows exactly how it works, please let me know, but I think the ladies bargain with boutiques & designers as a trade-off.
    Hair is something else-$200. wigs for Kim Z., a new one every other day??
    I don’t think Bravo wants to pay for that, or hair extensions..or, plastic surgery, but (and I’m assuming again), I think they bargain with vendors there too.
    My point is that I think that the ladies are given the “title” of “Real Housewife”, and what they do with it is up to how hard they work it.
    There seems to be a groundswell of complaints lately that The Housewives are not living-up to the original premise of the show.
    The Kim G. attitude, that a Housewife has to be independently wealthy to be on the show, is what I’m talking about.
    Maybe someone at Bravo should clarify this?
    Because if Kim G. is right, they sure let a lot of fakers & wanna-bees get involved.
    If not, my problem is, where else, except reality television, are actors responsible for paying for the sets?
    Teresa’s home is a set, but not only that, just like people want to look their best on television, of course they want their home to look nice.
    Unfortunately, Teresa’s definition of nice is more-like expensive & gaudy.
    Maybe MTV was right all-along by picking people to “live in a house”?
    Also-because Bravo won’t budge with the “reality” definition, all of the drama & dialogue is supposedly real.
    I’ve heard more than one of the women refer to “they want us to keep talking”, “We’re not supposed to walk-away from confrontation”, or whatever they tell them to do to create dialogue.
    To me, this is improvisation, and they are essentially script-writing.
    Yet-they are not being paid for that either or getting the benefits that most television writers get.
    When you look at it from my point of view, and that is actors paying for the sets, writing the script, hustling for your “costumes”, plus the chance that your character will get the “bitch edit”, and you & your family are judged by everyone…. well, I think they should at the very least be paid what other cable series drama actors are getting, and maybe more.
    They’re making a lot of money for Bravo & the celebrity gossip industry, and maybe Teresa took it too far, but I don’t think that Bravo should complain or be cheap about it.

    • Zipit Zarin says:

      Wow, those are really interesting and valid points. Never thought of it that way.

    • dumberries says:

      You make some good points. If they want to make it a scripted show with housewives playing roles (becoming actors) and writing their own dialogue, I’m with you 100%. But, currently these are ladies who raise their hands to being filmed in their own “real” environment and displaying their own “real” personalities/words. If they don’t want the confrontation or if they’re embarrassed of the environment they can afford, they should not sign up.
      If Bravo wants to keep it reality tv, I would like to see all of them in the same city get the same fair salary, with consistent increases for subsequent seasons. Giving some of them higher salaries for the same tenure just breeds more competition – there’s enough already! Plus, inconsistent salaries seems to imply someone “performed” better than the others and that contradicts Bravo’s definition of reality. Just thinking out loud (via keyboard)…

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Ah, but these HoWives are already to supposed to have big bucks, be self sufficient and glam. (And those who are pretenders get found out after a while as we’ve seen.)

      They also have attorneys when they sign contracts—-at least the smart ones do. (Kelly probably just makes an “x” and they hand her a bag of jelly beans.)

      Seriously, no one’s forcing them to be on a reality show. They know what they’re in for if they’ve seen the other shows or been on one for a while. And it’s not the money that has them lining up to be on the shows. It’s for the public exposure and to “hawk their wares” as the foghorn would say. It’s their choice if they want to rent snazzy cars that they pretend they own (foghorn) or to doll themselves up like movie stars when they’re having a sleepover with another housewife (the foghorn with Lulu). They know what they’re signing up for, and it’s not for the pay.

      And it’s the foghorn who was behind the NY Post article—she’s the one holding out for more money, having a diva moment. And she (thanks to Bawby) is richer than most of the HoWives. But she will cry the loudest, demanding freebies and perks. She’s got a real sense of entitlement. Now she’s crying poor me, like she can’t put food in her family’s mouths because she’s so poor? Please. No one forces her to spend Bawby’s money promoting herself all year round…..that’s her choice. And if she could find a better deal elsewhere, don’t you think she would take it instead of haggling with Bravo over what is for her chump change? In contrast, Kiki’s just grateful that they’ll have her and signs up as soon as she can before they can change their minds.

      Bravo gives these women their 15 minutes, and it’s up to them what they make of it. Bethenny’s smart and used it to build a real brand and line of products. Jill’s product is essentially herself and if she had anything better to go to she wouldn’t be messing with Bravo at all.

      Bravo’s made it clear in word and deed that participation in a reality show is not compulsory and no one on these shows is expendable. I’ve noticed that Andy’s said it repeatedly this spring in interviews. I suspect he was sending a message to those HoWives who perhaps have turned into loose cannons and risk becoming more trouble than they’re worth to the network.

    • OneMoreinBoston says:

      um… that’s not professional makeup. No how, No way.

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  104. sss says:

    Re: Zippy Zarin thoughts. I am shocked that Zippy may be more into the $$$$$ than the publicity. Who would have thought it? Then again, she gets publicity by saying she won’t return to RHONY unless she gets more money. Devilshly clever ploy. Zippy. If i were Bravo I would take Zippy at her word and let her go the way of Danielle Staub.

  105. Go To Sleep says:

    I don’t think Dina was lying about being invited to the reunion….Jeana quit OC and was invited to the reunion. Andy went with Dina to the horse races after she had already quit…and they put it all on bravotv.com. She was also invited to continue blogging and on WWHL….Andy LOVES Dina.

  106. Kay says:

    Will the real friends of Danielle please stand up? Thought so! She is a disgrace and should lose her children because of the bad male friends Danielle brings to the home. The laws in most states say a child cannot leave the primary custody home until they are a certain age, around 11. So maybe the older one is leaving, and she should leave after how her mother let it be filmed at the doctors office and what was said should have been private, not filmed. Also all these women should be on strong antidepressants, especially Theresa and Danielle. Theresa is a mess, anger issues probably resulting because of all her money problems. What does she look like without all that hair and makeup, probably not very interesting.

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