I Hate Jill Zarin Simon’s Webisode / Housewives News

I Hate Jill Zarin  

Simon VanKempen Webisode by Quincy IL  

Lingerie Shopping with Simon

Watch Simon’s Webisode here:  http://bit.ly/SimonsWebisodes

 Well, it had to happen.  This week’s webisode was boring.  I am not surprised that Simon knows his way around a lingerie shop or that he would buy panties in bulk.  I am not surprised that he supports the small shops near his Brownstone in Brooklyn.  I am not surprised that Alex goes au natural for sleep or that she probably has a white thong at home.

So now that the webisode blog is done, let’s get into the good stuff. Let’s compare what Jill Zarin called, “soft porn” or what Kelly Bensimon calls PDA (public displays of affection) that we saw when the women in Ioving, committed relationships returned after a week of living with reality stars in a riad in Marrakesh.  

Ramona invited her husband to a hotel, put rose petals on the floor, dressed in a red slip, drank pinot gricio and spent an inordinate amount of time on a couch waiting and wondering where Mario was.  Thank goodness, he found her message and followed her trail of bread crumbs to the little red slip in a room with an incredible view.  When Mario arrived, Ramona knew how to turn on the heat.  She told him that a fortuneteller in Dubai, I mean Morocco, told everyone on the planet Earth that another woman was thinking of him.  In a completely unrehearsed, spontaneous moment of synchronous brain waves, Mario said that the only other woman in his life was Avery, their daughter.  Has there ever been a greater melding of two minds that we witnessed on that couch? 

Ramona has prepared a special oil, no doubt a product from the tanneries found in the souks, and she started to rub her husband’s chest and she admired his pecks.  Mario wisely asked Ramona to work on a kink in his shoulder muscle.  After watching Ramona rub her husband’s neck and induce pain, we suspect that she has never done this before in her life. Finally, Ramona discovered the secret to a man’s heart, his foot.  She slathered oil on his foot and he goes into a trance  Mario is a foot man.  I would never have guessed that and I am a soothsayer by trade.  We don’t get to see what happens next, but we can predict their future. 

Alex has returned home and she is hungry.  There are no little ones underfoot.  Simon lets Alex know that good things are to come in a playful manner.  There are hints that this is a couple that actually loves being together.  They are young and frisky.  Simon gives Alex the items purchased in the lingerie shop.  She models the outfits for him and for prospective lingerie designers who might need a model for their runways. Simon and Alex announce that they are coming and they too close the door on us. 

Jill loves cloth too.  She also loves to shop so when she got home from Marrakesh she went to a custom tailor shop so she could give us a lesson on what looks good on Bobby.  Bobby was not allowed to speak, but that isn’t the first time Jill played the role of dominatrix wearing her girdle for support and whipping Bobby into submission.

There were no PDAs for the Countess.  The waiter brought the wine for Luann to approve which is odd because Jacques is in the business.  They smile and make eyes.  It’s Chapter 5 in her book: “Look, but don’t touch.”

Kelly shared in her blog  that she has someone special and she sits next to him in cabs. 

Cindy shared that she has no one special and she thinks New Yorkers should look orange in winter before their sex scenes are filmed.

Sonja flirted with a plastic surgeon, but we think there might be something to her comment that she met him on a trampoline and can’t wait for that scene next week. This show just keeps getting better and better.

I have to admit that Ramona’s attempts give me hope.  I am going to make dinner, give an old man some pinot grigio, turn on Ramona’s soft porn and hope for the best.  Thanks for the idea, Jill Zarin. 

Housewives News by LynnNChicago

Bravo has released it’s typical two video previews of next week’s episode.  One is gross but is actually pretty cool as it is 50 seconds of Jill Zarin in pain as she gets her “liquid facelift” and is repeatedly stabbed in the face as she squirms and moans in pain.  Sweet!

The other is this week’s raving bitch, Luann deLesseps taking her daughter shopping for dresses for her Sweet Sixteen Birthday Party.  Every dress that Lulu likes, naturally the pot smoking, vulgar mouthed, racist kid doesn’t like since you certainly can’t wear anything that the rude, vile, ignorant mother likes.  Why is Bravo forcing this woman on us?  She’s always been the 2nd banana to Jill, her place on the reunion couch has always been on the end, even Kelly got a more premium spot on the couch last season.

Sonja Morgan joined the cast half way through last season and ended the season more popular than Luann, Luann has 61,900 followers on Twitter after four years on television.  Sonja has 53,800 after less than a full season on the air.  (Jill has 148,000 followers but rumor has it she buys them)  Kelly has 79,500 but keep in mind she tweets all day long and people love to make fun of her.  Sonja and Luann typically only tweet during the show and if they’re promoting something.  In the case of these housewives, Twitter followers aren’t so much about popularity, they’re all about the interesting tweets, controversal tweets and people love when the Housewives make fools of themselves.  Jill and Kelly …. no one does it better!  The same trend can be seen with the Atlanta Housewives, Nene and Kim have a ton of followers, mostly because people like to see them battle, and they do it frequently.  (Alex has 85,600)

Lulu’s blog was just as ignorant as she is:

I felt uncomfortable that “Ramario” and “Silex” decided to share their intimate moments with the viewers. On the other hand, I do think that couples need to make an effort to please each other and keep it sexy — but this is a great example as to why they should do it in private.

Oh grow up you moron!  I thought they were sweet!  Alex and Simon are YOUNG and enjoy being together, Ramona and Mario are adorable!  Jealousy is so ugly Lulu, just because no one would ever want to see you and your feathered haired tooyoungforyou Frenchman in sexy scenes don’t criticize others!  Can you imagine how Lulu feels about Tamra’s bathtub scenes?  “Daaahlig, never show your bedroom or bathroom on television.”

Lulu drones on…

How many times will Cindy get to ride a camel? Sonja should have thought of that before cropping Cindy out. I think the camel pictures are a great memory for all of us to share.

Why didn’t you take some photos if it was so important to you?  You could have made sure only the Brunette’s were taken.  Sonja didn’t even get to ride a camel but she should have thought of Cindy’s experience?  Cindy managed to ruin half the trip for Sonja with her childish nonsense!  I think Cindy has plenty of Bravo FILM of her riding a camel in any case, dumbass!  (come to think of it Bravo rarely showed Cindy on a camel either..haha)

More babble from Lulu…

It is always best to avoid discussing a friend’s personal financial matters unless he or she asks you directly for advice. Jill is a sharp businesswoman and I’m sure that she understands more about contracts and financial matters than Sonja, but I wish Jill had let Sonja ask for her advice.

Luann de Lesseps

I absolutely love how the blondes stick together but Lulu is always good for a nice dig at anyone, no loyalty whatsoever from this one.  If Jill waited to be asked for advice, she’d still be waiting, why would Sonja ever ask Jill Zarin for any kind of advice?   Last week Lulu threw a dig at Cindy for her car seat blow up, and before that for the hanger nonsense, now she’s criticizing Jill.  I can’t wait until she nails Kelly then it’ll be a Hat trick!

Luann claimed in her blog that Alex should have asked her to speak with her alone after her Henna Tattoo, once again Luann forgets that she’s being filmed and viewers aren’t stupid.  Alex DID ask to speak to you alone after your tattoo Lulu!  Some of the comments that Bravo approved are pretty good for a change, here are a few:

Please talk less and listen more.

Luann
You should take your own advice! You always get in between of Jill and Ramona. And last season you got in between Betheny and Jill. I think you should tone down your Countess attitude.

She did ask you to meet in private and you wanted to talk to her about it in front of Cindy and Kelly. She asked you several times to talk in private.

I guess that we all have different perspectives and vantage points of how things happen blame it on editing. You did not allow Alex to say or explain because you talked over her…. sometimes you need to sit back and listen.

She did ask you to meet with her privately…it was you who said she could say what she wanted to in front of everyone!!!

LuAnn,
I usually agree with you because you are a very classy lady. However, tonite’s encounter with Alex, I have to say, wasn’t very classy. She was trying to have a civilized discussion with you about how you treated her, not Ramona. Instead, you shut her down and stooped to name calling. I think you owe her an apology. You really did not handle it very well. Next time, LISTEN to her. She is a good, level-headed person, just like you are. There is no need to treat her like she is an idiot.

LuAnn, I find you to be a pretty classy lady, however, you need to practice what you preach! Yes, Alex shouldn’t have come flying down the steps like a bat outta hell, but she was defending her friend, Ramona. You of all people are too familiar with meddling in the middle. For example, Jill and Bethenny fight, and now Ramona and Jill. You even went as far as having Ramona out to lunch, to ensure that Ramona would make things right w/Jill prior to the Morocco trip. Messenger yourself, maybe? Tonight’s showdown with Alex and yourself was too frustrating bc you wouldn’t let Alex get a word in. You kept talking over her, and it was annoying. Alex has trouble spitting out her words, and everybody knows that, but you needed to “lose your voice, and zip it”

I don’t know what this viewer was watching or who she was writing to but it’s pretty darn funny:

Luann, I am so happy the other girls are gentle with you. I bet that in time you will feel better about yourself. You have potential. Please stop comparing yourself to others. You are enough just the way you are. When you get nervous, try to calm down without running away. In time you will have more confidence. In the meantime, try to learn from the other girls. They genuinely want to help you realize your potential.

How is reprimanding Ramona for “causing problems” a way of showing your support?

I appreciate that you know and follow form.
To be fair Alex did ask to speak with you after henna. .

Even the dopey Luann fans can see that she was wrong and that Alex did, in fact, ask her to speak in private after she was finished getting her tattoo.  Off with your Head Lulu!!!

WoW, Kelly Bensimon proves that she is an absolute moron every day!  Here’s some of what she had to say:

What did all of you guys think of the soft porn? Did you like the scenes with Alex and Simon, and Ramona and Mario? And why did Simon’s present to Alex come in messenger garment bag (that’s how fashion PR folks send clothes back and forth to borrow for photo shoots) and not a paper bag with a label? I’ve never been a big fan of PDA, even when its filmed for television. I love holding hands with my cutie, whom I adore and giving a little nuzzle in the back of a taxi, but wearing lingerie on TV isn’t my style. To each his own.

Kel Kel must have gotten the “soft porn” description from her good friend Jill.  Kelly is questioning the packaging that Simon’s gift came in?  I am fairly sure that the VanKempens own a black garment bag, hell I own a black garment bag, half the country owns a black garment bag.  What the hell is Kelly trying to say?  Who puts clothes in a paper bag with a label on it?  What the hell is this woman talking about?  I don’t pretend to speak for Simon but I would guess he was “HIDING” the outfits he purchased for his wife in the garment bag.  DUH KELLY!

Kelly went on to talk about Sonja and even asked viewers to give Sonja advice.  I think Sonja has plenty of advice, she doesn’t need Kelly recruiting viewers to give their two cents.  The last thing Sonja Morgan needs is help from Kelly Bensimon or Jill Zarin!

Cindy Barshop is proving to be a hateful, spiteful, ignorant and clearly jealous bitch!  Her blog is so horrible I refuse to post any of it!  Let’s just say she called the YOUNGER and HOTTER couples on the show “granny porn”.  Your ugly old ass should know about granny porn Cindy!  This woman is so jealous of the loving couples on the show, it’s sad really.  Cindy chose to have children in a rocky relationship that ended soon after she gave birth and I think she’s surrounded by only paid employees and she’s lonely.  Instead of admitting it like Sonja, she lashes out at the happy couples.

Sonja was quick to point out in her blog that Jill’s advice was beyond completely useless, it was downright STUPID:

Speaking of experts I love when Jill says “When you add on your assets of $12 million and you add on that liability of $7 million, that’s where the $19 million comes from. I think that’s where they got it.”  Well Jill, I do know when you take seven from 12 its not 19, it’s five. These are the kinds of experts and friends that got me in this mess! Of course my lawyers tell me later that I had to list my ex-husbands mortgages as well, because we haven’t settled our divorce. Things aren’t how they may appear. That’s why one needs the right “experts.”

Touche’ Sonja!

Ramona’s blog was short and sweet, she had the same opinion of Luann as the rest of us did…

I was flabbergasted by LuAnn and Alex’s lunch together. I could not believe how condescending, pompous, and dismissive LuAnn was toward Alex. LuAnn obviously lost her rule book of manners somewhere along the way.

Alex’s blog, as always, is brilliant!  She gives her opinions and witty digs and I love them all!  There’s no point in posting just snippets here, you really should read the whole thing:

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-4/blogs/alex-mccord/arms-length?page=0,2

There’s a bit of a blogging war going on over at Bravotv.com.  Jill Zarin refuses to post her blog until all the others have posted their’s first.  She wants hers to be on top and she wants to be able to read all of the others so she can get her digs into the Blondes.  It is petty and childish but I expect nothing less of Jill Zarin.

Jill is completely unable to write a blog without half of it being an advertisement for her crap!  Her book, her underwear, her husband’s fabric store, and of course her newsletter which is full of ads for her book, her underwear, her husband’s fabric store….omg enough!!!  She has really gotten out of hand, it is all she talks about!

Jill talks about how Luann and Alex’s argument went, of course she sides with Lulu, Jill’s another NY Housewife who forgets that everything is being filmed and it’s all shown to viewers.

Worst of all Jilzy continues to believe that viewers are stupid.  Jill was trying to help Sonja?  By adding together assets and debts?  That number means nothing Jill, you moron!  Most people know that you would subtract your assets from your debts, you can even subtract your debts from your assets but you never add them together…even lawyers know that.

Jill is DESPERATE for people to sign up for her Newsletter, she is even having a contest where you can win one of her husband Bobby’s ties and a photo of the two of them together but you “MUST” sign up for her newsletter to be eligible to enter.  Pathetic desperation!  If you are currently on Jill’s mailing list, according to her you are one of 55,000 people, where is that “unsubscribe” button?

If you’ve just eaten, you may want to skip this part, it could be vomit-inducing… Jill said:

Parts of the episode, I still maintain were like soft porn. I consider myself an aficionado on romance and could write a book with suggestions on how to seduce your man — but some things are just better left to your imagination.

Jill considers what we saw on the show “soft porn”?  Ramona gave Mario a massage, mostly his feet and Alex tried on some lingerie, she was more covered up than those OC housewives in bathing suits.  Both couples were having fun and enjoying being together.  I think Jill is jealous because her reunion with Bobby was so sad, mostly for Bobby!  Did Bobby even need to be there to pick out a suit for himself?  Watching this woman dominate her husband is not sexy or cute or anything close to amusing, Bobby never looks happy!  Poor guy!  Jill must give good BJ’s.  ewwwww

Jill is an “aficionado on romance”?  This is the woman who gives BJ’s for diamonds and treats Bobby like a slave boy, doesn’t allow him to speak and announced that she married him for his money.  (Never settle “for a poor guy”,  make sure he loves you more than you love him and pour your drink on your food)  Sorry I had to add that last one, it’s just so stupid!   Only Vicki Gunvalson treats her husband worse than Jill Zarin treats Bobby!

I hope she does try to write a book on seducing a man, she’ll be laughed out of her publishers office!  If there is one thing Jill Zarin is NOT, it’s a sexy seductress!  Jill encourages people to email her with advice questions.  Great idea!  She can add your assets and debts together to come up with your net worth!  Then she’ll tell you to give  your guy a BJ to get diamond earrings or a great new watch!  Better yet, she’ll tell you to marry a guy you can’t stand as long as he has money and don’t forget to dump your wine on your french fries…  augh!  I hate Jill Zarin!

Simon tweeted during the show, this had to be the best of the night:

@SimonvanKempen  Bully is the catchword of the Brunettes. #Pathetic! Bullying is a serious issue but disagreements between 40 yo realty TV people #NotSoMuch

Amen Simon!

More of Simon’s tweets:

@SimonVanKempen:  The #WWHL poll spoke for 75% of the viewers. LuAnn lost hands down. I also fail to see how a public figure in their 40’s gets so aggrieved by tweets.

@SimonvanKempen  So despite “no graphic” @McCordAlex won her 3rd #WWHL poll of the season 75% to 25% “condescending, haughty & vile” @CountessLuann Tk u USA

SimonvanKempen   Who else thinks @BravoAndy should have had @McCordAlex on #WWHL tonight? LuAnn was on last week for Part1 so only right 4 Alex 2 b on 2nite

I thought about that too, I really don’t understand why they  had two “other” Bravo cast members on after The Real Housewives of New York rather than Alex who could have really gotten into the show and answer some of the questions viewers had for Alex.  We did have to tolerate sitting through Lulu last week, why not do something for the fans this time and put Alex on!?!?!  Comeon Cohen, time to listen to the viewers!  Alex took 75% of the vote on WWHL, Andy skimmed over that but he can’t ignore viewers forever!

Sonja tweeted:

SonjatMorgan   This morning I’m just reading all your tweets and feeling the positive energy. Love the support you guys threw my way last night. I’m lucky.

Alex and Simon have new jobs….They’re both great writers, it was only a matter of time.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110617005055/en/Metro-NY-Announces-Real-Housewife-Alex-McCord%E2%80%99s

As I’ve mentioned a few times, there is a great campaign to get Cat Ommanney onto The Real Housewives of New York.  Cat posted on her Facebook a tidbit about her former cast mate Michaele Salahi:

Cat Ommanney:  At last I made it back to my hairdresser-Hooray!!Only to hear that MS BS had been there,had 4hr treatment and then left without paying #tellmesomethingnew

The Salahi’s will never change, they’re thugs and losers!  I hope they contact the police and press charges against her for non payment of a service.

I hope you’ll all join me in sending Andy your messages asking him to add Cat to the cast of The Real Housewives of New York, I think she’d make a perfect addition to the cast.  Love her or hate her, you can’t deny she would stir things up a lot!

The Real Housewives of New York are filming their reunion on June 22 and Andy’s asking for questions….you can post on his Facebook (Andy Cohen) or Tweet him @BravoAndy or email him at andysblog@nbcuni.com.

Bethenny announced Baby Bryn is talking!  I can’t wait to see how she’s grown and changed next season on Bethenny Ever After!  What a lovely family!

Exclusive: Bethenny Frankel’s baby Bryn is talking! http://t.co/4TUqZNF

Don’t forget to check out some great blogs:

Real City Housewife:  http://www.realitycrackhouse.com/

Imajustsaying:  http://www.tvtime101.com

RawVeggies:  http://www.terryaley.com

Carly Hall and I dissed on the Real Housewives of New York after the show, if you missed it you can still listen here:

“Carly Hall Presents REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NEW YORK …with .Lynn Hudson..” by Carly Hall on #BlogTalkRadio http://t.co/x5ko5c4

Happy Father’s Day to all you dad’s out there!

Until Next Time…

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355 Responses to I Hate Jill Zarin Simon’s Webisode / Housewives News

  1. cabbie413 says:

    you gotta tell us more when ur on blog talk radio! i would’ve listened to it!

    • quincyil says:

      Lynn links it to the NY chat blogs. It’s on right after WWHL for 30 minutes. If you decide to call in, turn off your radio. You can hear the show on the phone.

      Next Thurs. I will put a reminder on the board to look up at the link.

      Q

    • LynnNChicago says:

      I posted it on the Chat blog right before RHONY, we always do it right after Thursday’s WWHL 🙂 I’ll post a reminder on Thursday too!

      • cabbie413 says:

        thanks Q and Lynn

        i’ve been here all this time and never knew about this!!!! I’ll definitely try to catch the next one!

  2. essexgirl2286 says:

    I’ve been thinking about it and Jill is even more devious then we give her credit for i think her whole plan in Morocco was to have a huge blow up with ramona say she’s DONE, well actually i think she said something like never again but basically the same a we’re done and then make up with Ramona bf going back home to show viewers that when she says we’re done, it doesn’t mean that, she would never be that childish and spiteful and we all believe her and can forgive her for last season right???

    seriously Jill!?!

  3. I think the impression that Ramona waited an inordinate amount of time may be more Bravo BS. If you check the level of wine in her glass it never really changes.

  4. WindyCityWondering says:

    Bravo’s housewives’ brunette blogs are vile – full of vitrole, vile and venom!
    Jill needs to give up – no one will like her or want to be her fan when she continues to lie, justify and teardown her castmates – this is the housewives not survivor!
    LuAnn needs to go back to being a quiet, pretentious bore – her mouth is not wired to her brain and apparently her ears aren’t wired to anything either – she tried to make the Morocco trip a nightmare for the blondes and she is still seething that they managed to have fun in spite of her horrid hostessing skills. And as for any sign of real class or basic manners – they just aren’t in the package she thinks she is selling the viewers.
    Kelly and Cindy are bit players on the team and basically have been reduced to b filler scenes.

    • I don’t know what Bravo was thinking when they cast Cindy. She looks annoyed most of the time, like she doesn’t want to be there. I hope Cindy and Kelly are gone next season, if there is a next season. They don’t add anything to the show.

      • Cindy is the mean old aunt who sits in the corner making sure no one else has fun. I suppose they kept her own the show because of her drama with Ramona over Howie – but she’s not likable or worth hating, just blah.

        Kelly is odd. I guess I can see why they keep her on the show – but they shouldn’t. Taking advantage of the mentally ill is not cool.

      • twoile says:

        & she is a mouth breather!:0)

    • TLM says:

      I keeo thinking back to what Bethenny said in the first episode last year to Luann Dullest Eps (as in episodes). “I am so tired of these pleasantries and this *countessness*.” I couldn’t agree more. Everyone seems to see the condescension Luann gives off but her. She used to be condescending but reserved with words, and now she’s condescending, mouthy and vulgar. She just comes off as that much more of a poser putting on an act, or thinking she’s high and mighty enough that she can now call people names and get away with it. Well, THERE’S NO PECKING ORDER HERE, MY FRIEND!! LOL. Luann is the one who needs to get a life, and get off the show. Instead of worrying about Jill and Ramona, how about Luann actually tend to her kids and teach them how to eat and act? How about that, Luann?

      • Caitlin says:

        That particular episode sticks in my mind to this day, especially the bar scene between Bethenny and Her Countessness. That was the first time I saw LuAnn almost enjoy being vile, i.e,, the mean smirk on her face when she asked Bethenny of she (B) were picking up the tab “since you invited me.” LuAnn, to me, has been making those she thinks are beneath her pay for the Count’s dumping her ever since. She makes me want to hurl a bowling ball through my own t.v. set. Really.

      • lola says:

        That may be the very reason that she tried to keep Jill and Bethenny from becoming friends again. Bethenny was that only one that could go round for round with any of these losers especially Luann. She didn’t hold her tongue for Luann at all unlike others. Now she’s trying to be the “tough” girl on RHoNYC. She’s trying to call others out the way that Bethanny did. As far as the kids, it’s obvious that she doesn’t give a crap about them and if they turn out to be losers then she’ll either blame her divorce or say that they took after her ex-husband

  5. Off Topic: There are two new stories on Radaronline about Vicki and her boyfriend. Vicki may have been dating her boyfriend for a few years and he has been arrested more than once for DUI.

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/06/real-housewives-vicki-gunvalson-new-boyfriend-brooks-ayers-involved-years-0

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/06/real-housewives-vicki-gunvalson-boyfriend-david-ayers-brooks-dui-arrest-2009

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      It seems Vicki needs a relationship to go to before she ends the one she is in. Maybe she didn’t vet this new guy very carefully and now it seems she is blaming the media for its problems! Sadly, I just don’t feel sorry for her.

      • I don’t feel sorry for her either. I’m not a fan of Slade’s but he must be getting a kick out of this. I have a feeling that there is more information coming on Vicki’s new boyfriend. Radaronline has a new story everyday about this guy. It keeps getting worse.

        • I don’t feel sorry for her either. The grass is not always greener on the other side. She may have had issues with Donn, but after 16 years she knew what he was about, and he certainly seemed like a decent guy. He had her back.
          For similar reasons I hope NeNe holds on to Gregg. There are a lot of shady guys out there that would love to take advantage of a celebrity.

  6. I think LuAnn is more vile than Jill. (Duck and hide). No really! Jill at least has the sense to lie and try to cover her tracks because she knows she’s shady. LuAnn thinks it’s okay to be rude, condescending and vile, because she’s better than Alex and her twitter followers.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      They are so similar! Neither really have owned anything they have ever done to their castmates! Last season at the reunion LuAnn played the divorce card to absolve her of all her nasty behavior and Jill used the cancer card. ITA that LuAnn is more vile because she truly believes that others owe her endless apologies for her behavior!

  7. plainviewsue says:

    Great commentary as always.

    • I'm in Florida says:

      LuMann is ignorant and trashy and tries to come off as the voice of reason and intelligence. Her patronizing and condescending attitude has gotten worse. Remember when she told a tent full of people to be quiet–and when she told Bethenny how to introduce her? Don’t forget her penis grabbing drunken behavior at a party a few years back. Can’t take the trash out without the smell wafting along with you. I hate them both.

      • Caitlin says:

        Yeah! And didn’t Bethenny say something like “She lost a husband and grew a penis”? Lord, I miss her “zappers”!!!!

  8. Indy Anna says:

    So, this is considered “soft porn” by a woman who promises “BJ’s” for diamonds and puts a picture of her nekked daughter on Facebook. Now we know how this mental midgets brain functions. Remember her statement about Alex being “spread eagled” in the lobby of Simon’s hotel. Next she will be looking to be canonized to become a saint.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Aren’t you amazed that Jill is an authority on any kind of porn when she calls herself a prude? lol And then she says she could write a book on how to seduce the opposite sex? lol

      • Indy Anna says:

        It must not bother Bawby to know that he was chosen not for love, but for his 37 million. To Jill, any schmeckle will do if a guy is rich.

        • Indy Anna says:

          and did she not say a while ago that ‘porn crazed Bawby has Playboys dating back to the year 2,000 at his mothers? And did she not also say she and Bawby had their own little supply of sassy pictures?

        • plainviewsue says:

          Does he seriously have $37 million???? He could do so much better then Jill!!!!! At any rate, Bethenny has more then Her Highness and it must be eating Jill alive!

          I saw on line that Teresa is now looking to create an alcoholic beverage. Bethenny should get a percentage, since all Teresa wants to be is another Bethenny. Never gonna happen!!!!!

          • Indy Anna says:

            Plain

            There is a website that gives the net worth of all the housewives. That’s where I got the 37 million. However it may now be incorrect. The last time I looked there Bethenny’s fortune had not been added.

          • I’m sure their lives have completely changed with the show. She must be a terror to live with – and even more demanding. I wonder how much of his money he’s lost supporting her – cough – business – cough – ventures.
            I’m sure there are plenty of middle aged women in NY who would like to date Bobby Zarin and his millions. Heck – Trump even gets young models, and he’s hideous inside and out.

            • California35 says:

              I wond if she is still getting dimonds, jewels, purses, etc form Bobby. Fisrt f, she is not showing us that, so he might not be giving her anything right now… And secondly if he is paying for her “businesses”.
              By e way if she is such an expert on what others are doing and don’t care for her input, how come she is not an expert on her “businesses” they are not working.

          • nathania says:

            she already infringed on Bethenny’s brand by naming her book ‘skinny italian’ so she better be careful or she might get sued. someone married to someone with DUI’s and wrecks and who is always involved in drunken brawls should NOT have an alcohol brand.

  9. What is wrong with Kelly? No really? She’s rich enough to have someone write her blog for her? How can she be judgmental about things she does herself – like wearing skimpy outfits or posing nude? Is it memory loss or some sort of delusional state?

  10. Christine says:

    Happened to catch Cat Ommaney on FB and had a little chat with her. She loves the Countess Squash Blossom High Horse title, and says that she is aware of and grateful for her fans’ campaign to get her on RHoNY.

    • Nancy says:

      We have to get her on that show.

    • FLG says:

      I’m just doing a quick check in. I’m happy that Cat likes the CSBHH moniker. Hubs and I will be returning home tomorrow and I will send in some questions to Miss Andy. I also plan to suggest that he put in a nice sandbox (like they did on Celebrity Apprentice) so Kelly can make sand angels, while the adults have conversations. Happy Father’s Day to all the Dads, present and passed.

    • lola says:

      Although I think Cat would give those NYC women a run for their money I am unsure about all this support for her. She absolutely trashed Americans every chance she got. Now she’s trying to make money off us!!! I can’t support her. I do think she would be great but I just can’t. Sorry.

  11. NAmerican says:

    I believe Kelly was referring to porn coming in a pain brown envelope, hence the “soft porn” lingerie should have been in a “paper bag with a label on it”. She really is like a 12 year old, saying “ewwwww, that’s soooooo gross”

    The Alex Luann sit down was unwatchable. Luann is such a pompous, delusional snob, my advice to Alex is to finally realize that Luann is not worth it and will never get it. She should just say hello to Luann when they are in the same room or at the same event and not engage her any further, any time Luann says something rude or passive aggressive she should simply call her out on it by saying “Oh, that’s classy” or “here she goes again” and leave it at that. I think with Luann less is more, Alex will never get her to own her bad behavior, so why try.

    Jill’s grilling of Sonya on her finances was so inappropriate. How she thinks it’s OK to discuss that on camera is beyond me, I think her goal was to make Sonya look bad – how vile! Her scene at the tailor, was in my opinion, not so bad. I think taking over is her way of taking care of Bobby and her way of showing affection. I know it seems strange but I have seen this behavior with many family members and friends (many who are Jewish, altho I am not saying it is a “Jewish thing”). Telling your husband what to wear or what to eat or what to buy is kind of common because these couples have set up a relationship where the woman is in charge of the shopping and meals and gift giving. It is a bit old fashioned, but Jill models her marriage after her Mother and Father’s. Husbands go out to work and the wife takes care of the house and all else, albeit with nannies and maids lots of take out menus.

    I did find the Silex and Ramario reunions a little staged and creepy, but I still like Ramona and Alex the best. And Sonya’s cropping Cindy out of the pictures was priceless!

    • I have no real idea what Kelly was trying to say, but in Simon’s webisode where he buys the lingerie they put it into a brown bag with a label. Perhaps she felt that was a setup to make it look like he buys locally, but he borrowed the lingerie for the shot from other designers. I find it hard to believe Kelly would think that much about it though – so maybe she was thinking about jelly beans and hair tonic, and got confused.

    • Revenge is a dish served cold!

      • chris says:

        Revenge is a dish BEST served cold! I think that’s what Sonja said and it was perfect. I also saw on another site a picture of a camel and the caption beneath it was: ‘Bravo is thinking of replacing Cindy with this camel’.

    • nathania says:

      that was pretty stunning to me, that sonya came to jill’s girdle think tank only to have jill attack her and try to embarass her on camera. that was as classless as you can be.

  12. VAgirl says:

    I think I’ll skip the webisode this week. I like watching Simon with his chums, but really don’t want to see him shopping for lingerie for Alex. Great recap on the blogs. Cindy’s was short and mean. Nice of her to kick Sonja while she is down. Karma is a bitch and I hope she remembers that if her vajazzling business ever tanks.

  13. I just watched the LuLu/Victoria video. I can’t believe LuLu let her 16 year old daughter try on porn dresses (AKA Paris Hiltony dresses) on national TV. I just wouldn’t do that – it’s so declasse. (Okay I’m kidding, but I could totally see her judging Ramona if Avery tried on risque dresses). Victoria’s voice is very deep – I wonder if she smokes more than pot.

    • Satchels of Jelly Beans says:

      Well, I don’t know what she might smoke, but unfortunately for her, she is developing the same man voice that her mother has.

  14. California35 says:

    Good morning and happy Saturday !!!

    Great recaps, both yesterday’s and today’s.
    It is hilarious to see Kelly,Luanne,Jill talk about “soft porn” three ugly heads one brain talking about the same thing. It is obvious that they are sooo jelousof Ramona and Alex. They have good relationships and careers…that added up bring them happiness and success…. See Jill this is how adding is done.

    Jill talking to Sonya about her situation. I feel for Sonjia and I am sure she doesn’t wan her troubles on TV, but since she is on TV they have to come up…..but that does NOT mean everyone in the show has to comment on it. What She needs is support or to be left alone about it…not people telling her what she did wrong or how things work. She already knows and probably is kicking herself, she doesn’t need someone else to kick her..and as far as advice, she needs professionals that she has.

    The Salahi wife spent FOUR hours on a salon, and NOT paid for the services??!!what? Wow. It is nice to hear from Cat, I follow her on twitter.

    Rabble, I will start following you, I’m not active on twitter … I posted my first and only twits last week, but I like to read what’s going On.I don’t follow Jill, so I won’t be “unfollowing” her sorry. I only follow Ramona and Alex, I need to add Sonjia and will add more wife’s as I go along.

    Lynn, thanks for the recaps and everything you do to keep this blog. Luv ya!!

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Interesting that Sonja’s business was splashed all over this season’s taping but not a word about LuAnn’s classy pot smoking, gangsta talking video…..

      • quincyil says:

        timeline

        Sonja’s information came out in Mid Nov. around the 16th. it was Jan, when the video came out starring Victoria.

        Ramona and Luann will throw winter fesitvals for their daughter’s 16th birthdays next week.

        Sonja has a burleque part where they all wear fish net stockings and Luann has a recording in Atlantic City

        . Luann and Jill are at the hotel talking when the call went to teh proder that the video was on Ramona’s twitter.

        We must be almost over with the season if they film the reunion on the 22nd.

        I think after Marrakesh it was all down hill.

    • rabblerouser says:

      Hi. Cal pls be sure to send me a tweet so I can follow you back

  15. California35 says:

    Good morning and happy Saturday !!!

  16. sue says:

    Hey Guys,
    OK get this, one of the gals in our groups brother works out of New York, and although he can not understand for the life of him why we get so involved in RHONY he actually helped us out a little (we think a lot). So here goes what we think is a great tid bit of info, and we are going to be trying our hardest to get selected for a call on WWHL, anyway her bro., for the last month, has been working with a guy who just quit (because of more money,he wasnt fired) a job that was affiliated w/Bravo and he met LuAnn and other various people at a cook out. Jens brother and he where talking and making fun of us weird girls back here in Pa. when this helpful gentleman lmformed her bro that, in fact alot of employees and such are also getting tired of many of these shows that are letting cast members “hire PR people” to help them on the show, as he explained he can see them being allowed to hire consultants and such for their outside ventures, but in no way,shape or form should they be allowed to hire them to help them w/the show or on reunions special, meaning they should not be allowed to wear ear pieces and get prompted what to say…This guy actually said “It should not be legal to call these shows reality, when anymore, most of them are all scripted”!
    As for Miss Classless LuMan, Her Pr peeps are the ones who told her to be a Xtra uppity annoying Countless this year, because although she wanted to try to keep this regal exterior it would not guarantee her to keep her spot on the show,and also her

    • quincyil says:

      I thought someone might have told Kelly to walk in order to stop the discussion in the NY season 3 reunion.

      We were told Jill had PR people, but I did not know she may have had an ear device so they could share during the show.

      The BH girls had people on the set because I readi it in the producer’s blog on bravotv.com.

      I have also read that Darren, Jill’s assistant, is on the set when they film NY. That was in an AC article by a friend of Jill’s linked to be a reality tea article.

      Whatever they are doing is not working. Jill still looks bad on TV.

      • DiaBLa says:

        Cindy Boringshop tweeted she was off to meet with her PR people after the last episode and all her drunk tweets and then her short and not so sweet blog……….I am sure they called her in to ask her what the heck is she doing??? trying to make herself look nasty and mean?? well if that was her goal – then she did it!

      • cabbie413 says:

        lol thats what i was thinking! .. like what happened?? it just ended abruptly like Alex’s most recent blog.. lol

    • sue says:

      Sorry, had an emergency here at home and I had to stop my comment abruptly and I didnt realize I hit comment, please forgive me, I was hoping I would have had the pictures by now in order to prove to you guys here that the information we received about RHONY was on the up and up. I/we agree that they,meaning Bravo and all the other networks should not be able to call them REALality shows when it is so obvious that they are not. I/we are not saying that we dont understand that they have to “up the story line a bit to keep viewers, but they contractually should not be able to use these PR peeps,consultants and ear pieces or make up things just to keep viewers and if this in fact is common practice then we the viewers should be warned!

  17. susan says:

    Great recaps, for which I am grateful because so much of the shows have become unwatchable for me. Trying to tally JZ’s area of expertise:: Lawyer, haberdasher, clothing stylist, dentist’, interior decorator. Do I have them all? She and LuAnne are vile and make my blod boil when they are in a scene.

    • VAgirl says:

      How about sex expert and accountant?

    • quincyil says:

      Licensed realtor, but no one could find her license.

      1. Sex expert
      2. Accountant for bankruptcy/ don’t hire her she will add assets and debits… that is a big red F in an accounting class
      3. College speaker
      4.Friendship expert/ ask Jennifer the bride
      5.Photographer/bathroom photo
      6. Conflict resolution expert/screaming and raising her fists towards Ramona.

      • VAgirl says:

        Social Media Professional
        Radio personality (her sister’s radio show)
        Bully prevention expert
        Charity fundraiser
        Mentor to future millionaires
        Professional Ice Skater

        • VAgirl says:

          Memory loss expert
          Bull Crap Spreader
          Loser collector for team creation…….

          The list goes on and on

          • VAgirl says:

            Name dropping expert

          • Indy Anna says:

            author, computer expert, designer, model, fabrics expert, child development expert, dog shit expert, anger management expert, etc., etc.

            • Indy Anna says:

              oh, oh, oh we forgot – photographer extraordinaire (sp) in the category for Sir Giles Bensimon.

              • Indy Anna says:

                stop me, stop me, I’m now into looking words up in the dictionary.

                • Nancy says:

                  A BJ expert. Oh the thought…gross.

                  • Nancy says:

                    Johnny Weir’s sports agent.
                    Expert on how much money one should spend on a loved ones birthday present. (Remember Bethenny’s dinner party w/ Jason #1)
                    Door moldings (Jill told Alex and Simon that the moldings around their doors weren’t worth saving.

                    What I find funny now is that she says she is the Queen in the bedroom but tried to hire someone to give Ally “The Talk”. And on national TV. (Personally I would have killed her for that.)

      • Debbie says:

        You all forgot … New York Times Best Selling AUTHOR Bwahahahahahaha
        Founder(2) Zarin Family Trust

    • dsc60 says:

      she did say that she and her family has vast medical knowledge… so add doctor, dentist. (God she is scary) scarecrow

  18. cabbie413 says:

    Why aren’t more people talking about this? — There is NO WAY that Cindy is some savvy businesswoman. I think this is Howie’s business and she probably put in a huge chunk of money to start it and was thus made partner, but for the show she’s alluded to as owner/creater/master vajazzler .. oh please. This lady is no business mastermind – I just don’t see it.

    The picture of her above is just horrendous!!

    • She could be business smart with no social skills. As long as she doesn’t handle the staff – I can see it. Cindy was smart enough to get on the show, and do enough to impress the producers to get listed as a housewife. She might be trying to be hated to up her relevance to viewers – which might explain the horrible blogs.

      • Indy Anna says:

        any way, would you want Cindy’s brother to vajazzle you? He does need a female out front.

      • cabbie413 says:

        why would u want to be the most hated when you’re trying to promote a business??

        She got on the show because of Ramona..Ramona probably raved about her being a businesswoman (not knowing that howie is truly the person behind the business) and sold Cindy as the next new Bethenny.. little did she know…

        I can’t see being the new castmember who wants to be hated by viewers when you are trying to expand your business. Seems like bad business sense to me. It’s not true that any press is good press. Would you want to go to any of Cindy’s ..err Howie’s salons after following Cindy on the cast of Housewives? I think not. She has NO appeal whatsoever.

    • Caitlin says:

      One question I haven’t seen addressed re Cindy is what is the new product line (“Boobs and Butts”?) that she and skeevy brother and the assistant were raving about? Or – maybe never mind? – it could be just more TMI……………………

  19. Caitlin says:

    Absolutely fabulous comments and contents Lynn! Just cannot thank you enough for all the spice and crackling humor your hard work adds to my otherwise humdrum day!

  20. Jill’s blog slams Alex – I guess gloves are off for the reunion. Oh and Jill – yes Alex does have the same problem with you and LuLu – neither of you ever listen to her. Plus LuLu was really mean (remember dinner) to Alex in Morocco – so she has her own issues with her – it’s not all about Ramona.
    Hmmmm – and maybe you should watch the Bravo exclusive video where LuLu takes Alex out to coffee to be the “messenger” for you. Hypocrite much? Why don’t you call LuLu out for always being the messenger? Oh wait -because she’s on your team.

  21. We Can Never Be Friends says:

    “One is gross but is actually pretty cool as it is 50 seconds of Jill Zarin in pain as she gets her “liquid facelift” and is repeatedly stabbed in the face as she squirms and moans in pain. Sweet!” <—-ROFLMAOPIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  22. Error404 says:

    What did Kelly mean? She meant to imply that Simon did not buy any of those clothes, but burrowed them for the show. It’s basically the same thing as Ramona saying that Jill rented the sports car and said it was hers, etc…. The HW all love to accuse the others of having less money thanthey pretend to, not realizing that no one in the world gives a shut about such petty stiff but them. She’s trying to say the designer messangered the clothes over, because if Simon bought them they be in a shopping bag with the store logo on it. She’s too stupid to know that the average viewer takes stiff home from Macys in a black garment bag all the time. Maybe she really was a super model because this story betrays no understanding of everyday life. I wonder if Andy will ask her how much a gallon ofmilk costs.

    • If you watch his webisode, he did take the lingerie home in a brown paper bag with a label on it from the local store. I didn’t enough attention to see if it was the same lingerie he gave to Alex because I don’t really care.

      • quincyil says:

        i bet Simon won’t like my description of his shopping trip as boring, but I never shop for that stuff and it is not something I would share with all Earthlings.

        I think Simon was trying to prove something in the video and in the lingerie fashion show.

        I always saw them as a loving couple.

        Q

        • Simon is trying to get people to support local businesses. I like that – but I could see why you thought the scene was boring. Perhaps Bravo thought it was interesting because he was so comfortable buying lingerie – – – but we all know he shops for Alex.

        • Error404 says:

          Maybe. I actually thought it was more “isn’t she a great model!” than “look everyone, we actually have sex with each other!” but what do I know. With her connections at victoria secret, you’d think she could get a gig.

  23. Alex – if you’re reading this today – I think for the reunion you should completely ignore Kelly and Jill. If they direct something at you – smile softly and say – “now you know better” or “that’s just mean” depending on what it is. Confront LuLu directly by stating the facts: “Every time I turned around you were saying hateful things about me. I had enough! Obviously I was the one you decided to pick on this season.” Then when she retorts just roll your eyes and say – “now you know that isn’t true!” Forget all that you’ve learned about true conflict resolution – those skills only serve you well if the other person also wants to try to work things out. No one (not even the viewers) want you to work things out – they want you to win.

    • Caitlin says:

      Great suggestions, HA. I hope she reads this. And, btw, I signed up for twitter so I could follow her (good suggestion, Lynn!). Sent her a brief message of support and she tweeted back “thank you.” She really is the grounded, centered person that so many of us have come to admire. And I agree with Lynn that the more support she gets in advance of taping the Reunion shows, the better she’ll do.

      • I should add – watch Camille Grammer at the reunion. Whatever advice she got it worked – she really managed to turn make things better for herself with the way she behaved.

    • Plymouth Lighthouse says:

      I really hope she sees this. hwaddict ~ you are so on point. Alex, if you are reading this please remember you are not dealing with rational human beings (Jill & LuAnn) We want you to win. We already know you are right, don’t give them the satisfaction. ❤

    • sue says:

      Alex should not start any type of questioning until she finds out if Lulu or any of the brunettes are wearing ear pieces or have pr reps in the wings!!!

  24. What the heck happened to Cindy? She was almost human mid-season. She needs to fire her PR team.

    http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-4/videos/the-morocco-post-mortem

  25. Adgirl says:

    Ugh Vicki! What are you a teen ager now? Falling for the Bad Boy? What would you say to your daughter Brianna if she brought home a guy with Brook’s problems?
    I used to still up for you. But now We. Are. Done!

    P.S. I am also disappointed in Jennifer Aniston’s situation. He new boyfriend apparently dumped his live-in girlfriend of 14 yrs. We don’t know any particulars but it is ironic at the least.

    • VAgirl says:

      To me Jennifer Anniston is not very smart in the relationship department. She strikes me as as not having much self confidence.

      • Caitlin says:

        ITA! I mean, look at her major suitors since Brad – Vince Vaughn and John Mayer!?!?! I guess one cannot help chemistry, or the lack thereof, but her choices suggest to me that she just doesn’t know who she is yet.

        • floridagirl88 says:

          She is pretty on the outside,but seems hollow inside, like there is no there there.

  26. cabbie413 says:

    Good question housewifeaddict..

    How much do the housewives #rhony get paid per episode? Are they paid the same across the board? Anyone know?

    • Debbie says:

      In recent article about Sonja’s bankruptcy it said her income is 26,000 a month. How much of that is from her Bravo salary, I don’t know. I wonder if they get residuals when and if the shows are rerun or air on NBC.

    • Adgirl says:

      I can see why Jill & Kodak were upset about Ramona saying that. But Jill is exagerating the damage to her. Her handlers talked up an imaginary scenario where Jill’s one day party hosting gig would mroph into her becoming the world wide hostess for Kodak.

      Really? Kodak has no one else higher profile to hire?? I’m not even sure Kodak has a celeb spokesperson.

      • I agree that I’d have been aghast if I were the Kodak rep. I would think no reputable company would use the HWs franchise as a way to get “free” publicity since they don’t control the editing. Better to product place on the Apprentice.

        • quincyil says:

          Speaking of product placement on the Apprentice, the zebra and green boxes and cans of 7 up have been in all of our stores this summer. 7 up used the slogans and the packaging created on the show. I meant to mention that and kept forgetting.

  27. Indy Anna says:

    Jill did not invite Ramona to her focus group? Does anyone remember how Jill called Ramona and screamed, carried on and all but threatened to call a lawyer when Ramona had an informal dinner (seasons ago) for some of the NYH and did not invite her? My my, how the worm does turn.

    • Jill didn’t want to hear the truth about her products. She’d rather create the line and have them sit on shelves. Ramona doesn’t have a filter – but she also doesn’t lie. That said – none of these ladies listen to each other. Ramona didn’t take Bethenny’s advice on her branding. Bethenny didn’t use the logo Alex designed. And hopefully Sonja won’t take Jill’s financial advice.

    • VAgirl says:

      And got her revenge on the tennis court!

  28. kbinldo says:

    Wouldn’t it be cute if Bryn’s first words were “Adios, lunatic”? LOL. I bet, though, her first word was “Da-da” 🙂

    • VAgirl says:

      No actually she’s saying ma ma and other things but not da da.. Bethenny says she is a mommy’s girl, not a daddy’s girl, which she says surprised her. She says she wants another girl.

    • Nancy says:

      It was “ma-ma”. Remember it was on BEA.

  29. quincyil says:

    I think that the timeline is very off. When Simon walked into the bra shop there was a lot of snow on the ground. I think they filmed that in Jan. The temps in November are in the 40s during the day in NYC and that day had feet of snow and it was cold.

    I think we have been had by Bravo, the producers and the stars. My suspicion is that in Jan. 2010, the producer knew they were in trouble. The filming was to end the end of Jan 211 and we were to have the show in mid Feb.

    I think that they needed filler to make a story line and the stars filmed filler scenes for the show. Lynn and I were watching the filming schedule back then. When they announced that they would serve Miami instead of NYC, we began researching the net for the timeline for our fantasy story..

    Simon telephoned me in Jan and at that time i knew I would blog his webisodes so i asked him if they would be visiving other burroughs. (Error 404 and I had had a discussio on the board and I was interested in the burroughs of NYC.) He told me that the filming for the webisodes had taken place in winter and it was too cold to be outside. All of the other webisodes had a lot of snow on the ground so I am sure they were filmed about that time.

    Simon and Alex have learned to be good actors over the years. Alex’s interview said she has just come back from Morocco, but I don’t believe her. In Feb, I read that Ramona and Simon had mentioned filming interviews. I think this had to do with creating a plausible story line for us to follow. When you rewatch the episodes look at teh outfts, the stars are wearig, this year the interviews made in Feb. tell the story of the seaso more than the scenes themselves. A lot of us felt it was filmed differently. Well, it’s the interviews done in Feb, that make this season seem different.

    I saw the Ramona/Mario seduction as forced. Neither one of them wanted to be there. Mario did not look shocked abut the accusation of the other woman thinking about him. It’s weird for parents to think that a 16 year old girl is another woman too. I did not think of my 16 year old daughter was a woman and she went to med school out of high school. It’s odd. I think this is something invented and added on to the show to help Ramona defend her marriage.

    The discussion on the very cold day between Luann and Alex seems odd to me also. They look really cold so I suspect this was also filmed in Jan as filler. My guess is Bravo had a problems so they told the stars, you had this issue in Marrakesh and we need you to elaborate so we can have season four.

    I can beleive that the discussion of Sonja’s bankruptcy and the Jill focus group took place then as Jill’s girldle line was going to be launched on Feb. 15th with the premier. Jill would be under pressure to make those decision in Nov. The news about the bankruptcy did go to the press in Nov. I remember discussing that on this board that that time.

    Since I am the IHJZ expert on the webisodes, I will suggest that Bravo filmed webisodes with the van Kempens and a few of them were really good. Bravo needed a story line so they used footage from teh webisodes for the show. I think Simon van Kempen helped season four story line. I am using all of my super duper soothsayer powers here, but that is what you all pay me for.

    Q

    • When did Jill post on this board – the thing about what would Lynn do if she made up with Alex?
      I also doubt that Ramona would “ambush” Mario with the fortuneteller’s prediction. If I were to ask that question of my husband on national TV – I’d make sure I knew how he’d answer it LOL.

      • quincyil says:

        New Years Eve The infamous “Katrina post” asking Lynn what she would do if Jill made peace with Simon. We were on the board.

    • Adgirl says:

      I totally agree that Bravo cuts and pastes everything on their shows and also on their comment boards. One of my comments on Cindy’s blog this week was completely edted to miss the point.
      I’m surprised they haven’t overlaid more audio comments into scenes – like Jill’s off camera remark about Alex being a Fkg Bitoh at the wedding.

      • quincyil says:

        i bet Luann was told that Alex wanted to apologize and that is why she was ticked. I think that was filmed when it was very cold because they talk about it being very cold.

        Luann does not wear turtle necks in 40 degree weather in Nov. in NYC. That is still one shoulder cocktail dress time.

        • If she was waiting for an apology, she should have let Alex talk a little. I think LuAnn wanted to lecture Alex, and was mad because Alex had the audacity to want to say something. (PS – I think LuAnn was mad at Alex all the way through Marrakesh because Alex stood up to her at the bullying event when she tried to bully Ramona about the designer – that’s why there have been so many digs against Alex’s clothes IMO).

          • Adgirl says:

            I don’t know when Sonja’s party was, but LouAss said Alex should have been trown out just for wearing the black dress.
            She doesn’t say similar things about Kelly’s or Cindy’s outfits.

            • quincyil says:

              That is right. The only person Luann has attacked about clothes has been Alex and it has been since day one of season four!

              • She made digs about Ramona’s outfits in Marrakesh as well – the dresses from the designer she tried to steal LOL

              • Nancy says:

                I think this was because Alex got a modeling contract. Remember that was LuMan’s past.

                • Attacking her means of making money. Now that makes sense.

                • floridagirl88 says:

                  LuMan’s got nothing but a delinquent daughter, a closetful of one shouldered dresses, and likely small and temporary alimony payments. She has no product line, a book that gives advice she doesn’t take seriously. She can’t find a designer to dress her for the show so she tries to steal one from Ramona. If she didn’t have mean and condescending would she even be in some of the scenes? I feel sorry for her because she is aging out of the life she wants. Unless she follows Jill’s advice and also looks for a really old guy with some money.

    • Kansas Girl says:

      The snow storms were mentioned right here on the blog by the local NYers. I think it was Dec/Jan. I remember WSL commenting about how the first snow took a long time to be cleared from the streets and people were not happy about that, so the next storm it was cleared faster. I think this was also when she commented about her roses being chopped — snow was maybe pending. I’m certain those storms were mentioned right here on the blog, and the cold that went with them.

      • quincyil says:

        If it was Dec, would we not see Christmas decorations? The restaurants and streets have decorations here. Shops have decorations. None of the restauratnt or streets were decorated for the holidays. This makes me thing it was Jan. or Feb.

      • dsc60 says:

        the snow storm we had was right after Christmas. NY had snow on the ground for quite a while, in Jan and Feb because we had snow storm after snow storm. usually the snow clears somewhat quickly in NY but during a bad winter, such as this one, it can build up.

  30. butterisafruit says:

    I know I’m alone in this. I don’t like Cat I do like her ripping down LuAnnn.
    However that’s no reason to like someone. I think this HW series has turned
    very cold and nasty. Bringing in Cat will only continue the bitterness.
    When I first started watching, it was for fun. Yes there were some swipes and
    sometimes they’re would be annoying digs. It’s now evolved to teams, both setting out
    to hurt the other.
    I always found Cat to be just as smug as LuAnn, only LuAnn is better at it. When I
    watched the DC housewives shows. I would grit my teeth whenever Cat opened her
    mouth.

    • quincyil says:

      The interviews have been vicious. No humor… to lighten the mood.

    • You’re not alone – but with the cast the way it is there is no hitting the reset button and getting rid of the bitterness. I’d like to see LuAnn and Cindy dropped from the show – rather than Cat added to take on LuAnn. They need someone lighthearted like Lisa Vandercamp. Someone who can soften Jill a little, and be friends with everyone – the way Bethanny made Jill take herself less seriously.

      • HD says:

        I was not a Cat fan from the beginning but she grew on me. I loved her giving Luann a piece of her mind. Goodness I would have paid to be the one to tell Luann off. (There should be a Tell Luann Off Day.) I wonder, going along the lines of your thinking, would I eventually come to dislike Cat if she was on another show? I am not rallying for Cat to be on NY. Not that I don’t like her but it is not that deep to me. I am wondering how much longer these shows will be on or better yet, how much longer my dumb a$$ will keep watching. Help me!

      • butterisafruit says:

        I agree. I wonder if Sonja would have some friends that would want to jump on board. She often mentions her circle. Bringing in light hearted fun personalities would do wonders. It would also help shove Cindy, LuAnn and Kelly out the door. They’re a little too comfortable right now.

        • Yes Kelly should go too – but I think they will keep her around to see what crazy things she says or does. I’m not happy about that – but I’ve come to accept it.

    • floridagirl88 says:

      I’m glad you said that because I never warmed up to Cat either, but I acknowledge that many on this blog love her. She is certainly one who could put LuMan in her place, but it would add to the bitterness that seems to have infected this series, the NY howives. I am so glad Bethenny moved on to something more positive.

  31. HD says:

    I know everyone here loves Ramona (I like her too) but I am even more convinced from that scene with her and Mario that he is cheating. Let me first say and EVERYONE here can back me, I have ALWAYS said Mario cheated even before the medium. I have said it since season one. I just know that I know.

    Ramona was so awkward in that scene that it screamed my husband does not get attention like this on a regular basis. It is not hard to be with a married man. All you have to do is be whatever his wife is not. Most men (generally speaking) like to feel wanted. Ramona said to Mario that she put up her watch and her Blackberry and that she knows she has spent a lot of time focusing on Avery. Mario said, “that is true.” So I am certain Ramona is in her Ramona world and Mario is in his. Then she said this is the first time in 18 years. I was trying to figure out the first time in 18 years, what? That she bought lingerie? Are you kidding me? (I couldn’t really tell what she meant. Maybe someone else could and will enlighten me, please.)

    I am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt (with no proof of my own) that Mario has cheated and I think Mario is the type that cheats with escorts or something like that. Eventually this will all come out. I just know it. He has ALWAYS screamed cheater to me. And I like Ramona and heck I like Mario but I know men and I know married men and I know how they operate.

    • HD says:

      Also let me say, I know a lot of people think if he was cheating it would have come out already but just think about how many people have cheated for YEARS maybe some you even know, shoot it might be you, that has not surfaced for YEARS or shoot may have never surfaced. Just recently that Weiner guy said he had been doing this for 3 years, Arnold had an affair and hid a baby for 10, Tiger Woods, do we even need to go there? Just because Mario’s wife is on TV doesn’t mean his dirt would have already surfaced. I think he has paid well to keep it where it is. Like a Heidi Fleiss madame type of deal with her escorts.

    • You crack me up HD. God help him if he’s cheated on her and she finds out though. It won’t be a pretty scene.

      • HD says:

        I’m gonna tell you the type of woman Ramona would be if she found out…she would deal with it. Trust me. Her pride is too big, part of her persona is this “married for such and such years” stuff, she will not leave him. She is in too deep, 18 years is a long time, and of course her persona could not take it.

        Will it hurt? Yes. Will she be crushed? Yep. Will she leave? Not a snowball’s chance in hell. Most women stay when a man cheasts. Most men, walk. Ramona will eat it, might not like how it goes down, but she will swallow it. Most women do. And I am just being honest. Now me on the the other hand, you can GTFO! 🙂

      • butterisafruit says:

        Romana is worth a lot of money. I bet she has a private investigator on this now. Or maybe she already had one and told him he better put on a nice show or she’ll ruin him.

        Both Romana and Alex’s scenes were too staged for me. I felt uncomforatle. They’re lousy actors.

        • HD says:

          Right. How is Simon gonna say, “you know that modeling pic when you are in your underwear” Ummmmmmmmmm okay. Now I know my fat a$$ is working out but Alex is not a Victoria Secrets model. What modeling portfolio is she doing that is showcasing lingerie? If someone hired her and truth be told, she is not that pretty to me, they would not be hiring her to showcase bras and panties. She would be a semi “celebrity” person in an advertisement and truth be told again, I am not sure what company is looking to realy hire these woman to back a brand. (other than B)

    • cabbie413 says:

      Mario and Ramona both strike me as swingers – same with Luann and the Count.

      Ramona seems obsessed with her looks and I always found that interesting because she’s a pretty lady and even w/o all that filler mess I think she’d look nice (did you see her lips when she was talking to mario? looks like she was stung by a bee) I always felt Ramona felt like she wanted to look her best for her man (because there’s competition out there – ie swingerville .. she wants to be the one he comes home to in the end)

      All in all, I could care less about their sex life though ..there are bigger fish to fry in this sea of delusion! Luann first..then Jill..then Kelly..and Cindy, well, I’d just toss her off a cliff where she can hang from the edge with her teeth. lol

      • Ramona strikes me as very conservative. If Mario cheats, i doubt he does it openly. LuAnn and the Count had a marriage of convenience – where both were free to live independent lives. I’m not sure if I’d call them swingers. The ones that I could see being swingers are Alex and Simon. They seem very open to – well – everything – but confident in their love for each other. But who knows.

      • Caitlin says:

        Those chicklet choppers won’t grab much a cliff, baby!

    • Adgirl says:

      I don’t know. I don’t think it’s a nice thing to say about people just because they are good looking and has a libido.

      I do wish Ramona wouldn’t keep repeating how in love she is. Makes her sound unsure of herself.

    • Kats2 says:

      I don’t agree at all – IMHO!!! Everyone can say and think what they want. I just think Maria is a wimp and actually intimidated by Ramona. HE looks for sure but I don’t think he has ever touched anyone else. All show and no go.

      Now Bobby, Luann’s husband, current BF, anyone Kelly is near, and Howie – YES!

      Also as a Ramona supporter I would never give the other side (VILE HW’s – Jill, Luann Kelly and Horse-head) any ammo to work with. These VILE HW’s read this blog! LOSERS

  32. smompy says:

    I wish Ramona, Sonja and Alex would make a pact that none of them would post there blogs until AFTER Jill has posted hers. Worst case scenario, Jill stubbornly refuses to post her blog at all. That’s pretty much a win/win situation since Jill would effectively be silenced and nobody ever pays any attention to LuAnn, Kelly or Cindy’s blogs anyway.

    I didn’t find anything the least bit sexy about the reunion sex scenes between Alex & Simon or Ramona & Mario. It was painfully awkward to watch IMO. Plus, these kinds of things always piss me off because it’s obvious they were scripted, and Alex and Ramona were probably more or less order to perform that way…and then I get even more pissed off when the person who ordered them to do those scenes goes on nation TV to mock and criticize them. Go to hell, Andy Cohen, you pathetic little, two faced weasel. The last thing I need are more scenes that make me feel disturbed and uncomfortable. That said, though, who the hell are Jill, Kelly, Sonja or LuAnn to mock anyone? At least those married couples have genuine love in their lives, unlike the lonely, bitter, nasty quartet of “brunettes.”

    And I have to say I actually feel kinda bad for Victoria Delesseps. First of all, LuAnn is her mother. That’s sort of a double whammy to begin with. Not only does Victoria have what amounts to two absent parents, but she also get’s to be humiliated regularly by the awful, hypocritical actions of her mother on national television. I’ve personally never met a sixteen year old who hasn’t doesn’t do stupid things. God knows I did my share of stupid things at that age and beyond. But unlike my stupid teenage things, which generally went unnoticed, Victoria’s one stupid thing got her expelled from her school and caused her to be permanently labelled a racist and a drug addict. OK, she does appear to be familiar with pot, being that she clearly knows how to roll a doobie, but calling her a racist is a bit of a stretch IMO. I mean, yeah, she may at some point turn out to be someone who fits the definition of that word, i.e. she follows a doctrine and/or set of beliefs which assert that there are inherent differences between various ethnicities and then use this idea as proof that one ethnicity is superior to another, but so far she hasn’t demonstrated to me that she actually IS in fact “racist.” She used a single expresssion in referencing her friendship with her cohort, an expression that I’ve personally heard a million times, that happened to contain a variation of a word which has become so powerful these days that it can even inflame some people to the point of becoming violent. Sorry, but a sixteen year old’s use of this particular expression (i,e, “my n***a”) in a conversation with her close friend does not automatically make the kid a racist. I do wish, however, that LuAnn had been woman enough to deal with the issue forthrightly instead of pretending none of the fallout actually happened and insisting that she had simply decided to send Victoria to school in Paris for unrelated reasons. She really could have used the situation to her advantage. She could have started a dialogue about the race and language issue, and she could have even made herself look like a more decent and responsible human being & parent, but what can you expect from a mean-sprited, classless, delusional tranny slob who’s literally convinced herself she’s the royal, exalted Queen Mother Superior Countess of the universe and her job it is to “correct” all the little “inferior” people of Earth?!?

    • TLM says:

      Think it’s a disgrace that the self-appointed Miss Manners’ daughter chews with her mouth open constantly and Lu-man says nothing.

    • I don’t feel sorry for any of these rich kids – even if their parents are awful. Life is what you make of it – and Victoria has a lot of doors open to her that other kids don’t.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      maybe Bravo should post in the order they come in…..either way Jill will find a way to cheat the system cause she has to be on top!! Silly bitch – I read her blog last anyway cause it is always chock full of lies and petty mean spirited hooha!

    • butterisafruit says:

      I can’t load videos I wish I could. I miss out on a lot.

      • Nancy says:

        butterisafruit,
        I was GREAT. Bethenny slammed everyone. She said he would be embarrassed if her child saw that her mom was on that show. I LOVED IT!

    • cabbie413 says:

      thanks for the vid link! Bethenny makes a lot of great points during the video too. She’s got way more substance to be on a show like #rhony .. Alex is the same way..she should jump ship. I think Alex would be a great writer..she’s really good at it.

      • butterisafruit says:

        I think Alex is remaining the the show. Mostly because of Simon. His only exposure is through her.

        • Like Alex said in her blog – she can drink a glass of wine and laugh her way through these episodes. Now that she knows not to take anything seriously, she’ll be okay. Well – I wouldn’t trust the producers at all if I were her after this season and what they did to Ramona, so I’d seriously think about getting off the show.

    • Kats2 says:

      Thank you for posting this! I truly love Bethenny, this video is the perfect example of class and success. She is so right about the show and getting out when she did. The remaining NYC HW’s are clinging to it for dear life, so pathetic! This is why Ramona, Alex and Sonja need to majorly change their attitude and stop trying to be friends with the pit-bulls it won’t ever work.

      One other random thought to make my day – If Juicy Joe goes to prison (oh Lord please make this happen) does Teresa get an automatic transfer to Mob Wives?

    • Cusi77 says:

      TLM_ Thanks for sharing! This was a fantastic interview, wow!

  33. Cusi77 says:

    One afternoon a lawyer was riding in his limousine when he saw two menalong the road-side eating grass.

    Disturbed, he ordered his driver to stop and got out to investigate.

    He asked one man, “Why are you eating grass?”

    “We don’t have any money for food,” the poor man replied. “We have to eat grass.”

    “Well, then, you can come with me to my house and I’ll feed you,”the lawyer said.

    “But sir, I have a wife and two children with me. They are overthere, under that tree.”

    “Bring them along,” the lawyer replied.Turning to the other poor man he stated,”You may come with us,also.”

    The second man, in a pitiful voice, then said, “But sir, I alsohave a wife and SIX children with me!”

    “Bring them all as well,” the lawyer answered.

    They all entered the car, which was no easy task, even f or a car as large as the limousine was.

    Once under way, one of the poor fellows turned to the lawyer and said,”Sir, you are too kind.”

    “Thank you for taking all of us with you .

    The lawyer replied, “Glad to do it.”

    You’ll really love my place”The grass is almost a foot high”

  34. Jill’s extended blog for those of us that refuse to subscribe to her newsletter:

    http://jillzarin.com/2011/06/18/jill-zarin-episode-11-exclusive-newsletter-blog/

    Wow – more slams for Alex. I guess the theme of the day is that Alex is still the “messenger”. How stupid does Jill think the viewers are – we can all see LuLu being her messenger all season – and if we don’t we can watch the video of her playing messenger with Alex on Bravo. Grrrrr.

    • cabbie413 says:

      i refuse to give her any website hits

    • plainviewsue says:

      Oh why, oh why did I read it!!?? I knew it would infuriate me. Jill is in the same delusional cloud as Louman is in. I guess they feel that the brunettes have to stick together, but for the millionth time, Alex had the meeting to discuss how Lulu spoke to HER!!! These women are so dense.

      Jill did not lose a million dollar deal. But my favorite line had to be how the money isn’t the important thing to her re her granny underwear. Money is EVERYTHING to her.

      There is obviously no romance in her marriage at all. She has no real friends, just her paid assistant and hanger ons.

      Ramona posts pics all the time of her groups of friends. Sonya definitely has Jill’s number, based on what she wrote in her blog.

      I would love Andy to ask her at the reunion, why aren’t u mad about how much Lulu buttted into your relationship with Bethenny. Show a mash up of all the times Lulu has butted in.

      I really am not enjoying this show anymore, cos of the hatred of these brunettes. I’ll take NJ over this group.

  35. HD says:

    @ Nancy- For some reason I couldn’t respond upthread to the question of did my husband cheat. My response” Oh no. Not at all. If he did I would be the first to say it. Ain’t no shame in my game. I would have put him out a long time ago. I am well equipped in pleasing my husband and trust me, I would not be awkwardly rubbing his feet. Just keeping it real. Ramona already failed the game.

    Having said that, I have been on the other side. It is like when you can spot someone that is an alcoholic or a drug addict or a whatever because you have done it. You can’t play a player. I see Mario’s “tells”. It is something I just know. I can go A LOT deeper into this but of course I would look like the villain. But I just know what I know. Trust me. Mario is cheating.

    • Nancy says:

      I disagree. When Mario was saying his vows to Ramona I had tears running down my face.
      HD, that was love not cheating.

    • Dawn says:

      Cheating isn’t always about sex and partners don’t always cheat because the bedroom of what is/isn’t occurring in the bedroom. If only it were that simple….

      • HD says:

        @ Dawn, very true but most marriages do end because of sex or money or both. We have all watched Snapped. But you are correct though it is NOT always sexually related but that is a top reason but there are many other factors.

        @ Nancy-You watched a show on Tell-A-Vison just like I did. It is like Langston Hughes said and I paraphrase, two man looked through prison bars, one saw dirt one saw stars. Or something like that. I know men that can look charming, say the right things, do the right things and at the end of the day are cheating. I know many people here do not agree with me which is fine. No one has to and of course this is just my opinion. I don’t have any proof other than a gut reaction each and every season. And I wouldn’t want it to be true. I do believe in marriage, I do believe for some people it does work but I just know what I know on another side. Maybe I am jaded. 🙂 Doubt it. He’s cheating. LOL!

        • Nancy says:

          HD,
          I think it’s called projection.

            • Nancy says:

              HD,
              Maybe you are right as I know when someone has a problem with alcohol. I just don’t want it to be true because I like Ramona. I’ve been with my husband for 21 years. (married for 13 years) now and I KNOW he has never cheated on me and I on him. I should be worried because he is very good looking and he has MANY nurses at the hospital throwing themselves at him. Physicians divorce rate in this country is 90%. Maybe I have my he’d in the sand. I hope not.
              I’m glad you are in a trusting marriage now. 🙂

              • Nancy says:

                head not he’d

                • HD says:

                  @ Nancy-Goodness knows I want to be wrong. I just know that I am not. I can’t say how I know other than like you said about an alcoholic or whatever. You just know. You can’t explain other than been there, done that, got a T-shirt, When it comes to this (and I like I said I could go deeper, much deeper but I ain’t gonna put my business out there like that) but I have been there, done that, got a T-shirt AND sent out postcards.

                  I am in a trusting marriage. He ain’t cheating. If he did he better go on with her. LOL! Honey, I don’t have time for foolishness. But I do not know that most men cheat because of lack of appreciation. You know the other woman makes them feel like they are PERFECT, they are a demi God, they hung the moon and the stars, while their wife is at home in rollers, a crappy housecoat and nagging them about taking the garbage out. (ALL GENERALIZATIONS but you feel me.)

                  I am certain your husband thinks you are the next best thing to pants with pockets! After 21 years, honey if he leaves you are just going with him! 🙂

                  • HD says:

                    I meant *do know*. My daughter came in my room and was talking to me as I typed so I got off track.

        • quincyil says:

          I thought that Jill and Luann were tag teaming this year. Last year Bethenny and Ramona exposed Luann’s infidelity so this was pay back time. Luann and Jill went after Ramona.

          • HD says:

            They sure did expose it. And we never saw the Count cheat, we never saw him with another woman, we never saw Luann with another man but hindsight being 20/20 we all know what was really going down. Even the women bringing it up last season, they kept that quiet. No one brought it up, no one exposed Luann and her husband until it was pretty much toast and was going to hit the media anyway. So how many seasons did that go on and noooooooooooo one said anything? Hmmmmmm Luann’s husband didn’t just start banging other women last season.

          • Yes – although Ramona didn’t know she was on speakerphone – and the cameras weren’t at her home – so I don’t think she intentionally did it. But she’s certainly called LuAnn a slut this year – at least twice. Tit for Tat I suppose. People who live in glass houses …..

          • Nancy says:

            Q,
            What really gets me mad is that that was Jill’s fault that LuMan heard that.
            I hate both of them. It’s not a surprise that the two of them are BBF>

            • quincyil says:

              IF Jill had said she was on speaker phone Ramona would not have shared. It is evidence that Jill gossips about Luann with Ramona. Ramona thougt they were chatting like usual.

              • Caitlin says:

                Didn’t know what you guys were talking about here and got frustrated, so spent a red hot Sat. evening rewatching eps until I found it. Yowzah! LuAnn has to be dumber than I thought or she’d deduce that this wasn’t the only time Jill and Ramona had had such a conversation. By God, that Jill’s a slimy snake. Every time I think I know all the worst about that broad, she surprises me all over again. No wonder Bethenny doesn’t want Brynn to know she was on such a program or befriended such a woman. Where’s the Xanax???

      • Sonjafan says:

        I’m on the fance about Mario. His vows were awesome and full of love. However he was awkward about hugging Ramona and didn’t seems to enthusiastic about the hotel adventure where he came in. However I have to say I am jaded, because my ex-h cheated and there were little classic signs along the way. So I can’t figure out if Mario was uncomfortable because of the cameras and pda or because he is a cheat. On the other hand he has always come to Ramona’s defense and seems very loving to her and Avery.

        This brings me to Jill saying that people in her crowd say that Mario cheats. That was mean and vindictive
        and full of pure hate. I wouldn’t have said something like that about my worst enemy as that is really hitting below the belt. I wish someone would spread some serious rumors about her and Bobby and let her know how that feels. But I forgot supposedly Bobby loves her more than she loves him. I wonder does that poor man really see who and what she is. I also wonder how Bobby’s adults children really feel about his “wife”
        Jill the woman of “bj’s for jewelry” – LOL!

        • Kats2 says:

          I do think the camera adds some awkwardness to the whole situation. Lesson learned they should stop the acting and just be real, keep the sex stuff for alone time.

        • Eddie was awkward in his love scene with Tamra until he drank the entire bottle of Tequila – but after that he was ready to jump into the tub with her …..

        • Nancy says:

          Could YOU do a sex scene with your husband on camera?
          George and I would be cracking up 2 seconds into it.
          I bet Jill has sex with Baaawwwwbbbyyy once a month.

  36. Kats2 says:

    Is swearing not allowed?

  37. Kats2 says:

    YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO CHEATS? Jill’s Dad, Jill’s Husband and Jill’s Brother-In-Law

    These “MEN” have been talked into a coma state by their vile wives. They just want some peace and quiet just one day a week. While I’m sure they have their fun during the week, they all have found a place to escape where they don’t have to listen to the SHRILL (HI JILL). A place where it’s quiet, they don’t have to buy anyone anything to STFU and they are allowed to be the men they want to be. You know where you can tell your wife she’s wrong and a shrew and still live to tell your friends the story.

  38. Adgirl says:

    I think one reason Jill and LouAss hate Alex is because Alex get modeling gigs. LouAnn signed with an agency didn;t she? You never see her at photo shoots.
    Jill, well it’s obvious why she’s pissed. She can only be the model for women who need shapeware.

    • Kats2 says:

      So true, dont’ forget about Kelly “the Model”. But you know Alex needs to stop trying and lowering herself to these other scumbags. Just get it done and like Bethenny they will be playing catch-up for the rest of their lives.

    • Nancy says:

      Thats a good one.

    • Jill never liked Alex much – but when Alex humiliated her last year – and Bethenny and Ramona chose Alex over her – – – – Jill will never forgive them

      • Kats2 says:

        To be honest I don’t think any of the HW’s liked Alex and Simon. They were a lot to take in S1. They are now more who they are and being true and it helped.

        • Cusi77 says:

          Kats2_ I am with you in your take of Alex and Simon in S1… they were kind of projecting or playing to be the social climbers when they did not need to do it… Alex was a successful —- designer, Simon managing a Hotel, they were not rich, like the others HW’s (except B) but they were in a good place… somehow I think they were told to act that way… I remember when they went to St. Barts and Alex commented that she was glad to be there and not to be in a Restaurant in NY looking around trying to impress someone (??????!!!!!!) Who does make a comment like that? Or maybe she was younger and immature and they grow up! But she is a well traveled woman who speaks Italian and French

  39. Nancy says:

    Is anyone watching “Finding Sarah” on OWN?

    • sony4ou says:

      yes, I am liking it so far and you?

      • Nancy says:

        I find the whole “thing” sad. This will seem mean but she should have not married in the the Royal Family. I think Sarah has done a WONDERFUL job with her daughters. I also like that Andrew has kept by her side. Who knows maybe they will remarry?

        • sony4ou says:

          I feel really bad for her. I do wish they would get married again, they really seem to get along and her daughters support her so much that I hope she continues to get better.

          • Nancy says:

            It sort of reminds me of Jill meaning it doesn’t matter how much money you have or what things you own
            being happy is an inside job. Sadly I don’t think Jill will ever get this.

  40. Mookies1mom says:

    I haven’t read the comments yet so if this has been said my apologies in advance. “Jill considers what we saw on the show “soft porn”? Ramona gave Mario a massage, mostly his feet and Alex tried on some lingerie, she was more covered up than those OC housewives in bathing suits.” I would go so far as to say that Ramona and Alex were more covered up than the “ladies” of OC when they are in just about any clothing. Unless it’s pants. Hell, they were more covered up than Cindy in her booty shorts for the camel ride!

    Love the blog Lynn and Q! Now I’ve gotta go catch up. You all are to fast (and witty) for me today!

  41. quincyil says:

    I am not Jill Zarin so I won’t claim to be a computer genius, but I noticed that my new computer slows while reading and commenting on Lynn’s blog. I have Hugh’s Satellite Internet. so I notice speed more than some of you.

    Every time I hit this blog, wordpress gives me two tracking cookies. They stay after I close.

    I find that loading takes forever at times and now that I know about the cookie issue, I will hit the short Norton scan frequently.

    I think that word press has to make money somehow and I suspect this is the somehow. Again, I am not a computer scientist.

    I checked some other places like my email and did not find any.

    Put this in your “good to know” file.

    • I use a free program called ccleaner to get rid of all the junk. It helps.

    • Adgirl says:

      Sadly all websites track your searches and click thrus. I rep Yahoo behavioral targeting and Yahoo cross references your isp address with your Yahoo profile, your search requests and what ads and search results you click on. They “sell” that package to advertisers so you get certain ads. Also, search engines tailor results based on your previous behavior. So if I google”red sox” my results will default to clothing and when my husband puts in “red sox” he gets sports.
      I gave up on trying to manage around this. I figure every few years I will change my computer and email so they will have to start over. If I delete my cookies or block them from tracking me than I have to remember every single sign in & password to 500 sites I visit.
      The thing that makes me crazy is now many sites insist on hooking up your facebook & linkedin accounts with them. I refuse to have my every online interaction listed on my facebook! Certainly not on Linkedin! Nope!

      • quincyil says:

        I locked down my facebook. I have habits and I will just hit scan when I walk away from teh computer. It’s not a big deal.

        It’s good to know this because I do see a difference in speed when I clean it.

  42. I think Jill should throw LuAnn under the bus at the reunion. LuAnn is so hated right now, it could be one bold move to move Jill into neutral if not “you go girl” territory. LuAnn has taking a ton of digs at her so she doesn’t have to worry about loyalty. Jill needs to start thinking strategically. She won’t win against Ramona and Alex because they’ll be ready for her – but she could strike quickly against LuAnn and get a quick win.

    • Nancy says:

      It’s not going to happen. LuMan is in reality is all Jill has. Nobody takes the others seriously.

      • It would be good for LuAnn too – because she’d be guaranteed another season if the Bravo Execs thought they’d have those two fighting. Kelly is a much better BFF for filming, because she follows directions. And this way Jill wouldn’t have to give Alex any airtime. Seriously a Jill and LuAnn fight would steal all the reunion time.

  43. Sonjafan says:

    Here are my thoughts on the alex lingerie modeling for Simon and Ramona/Mario scenes: the other HW are talking out of their a$$. Especially Kelly – look at what she wore as her Halloween costume? Also her skimpy bathing suits and I mean really skimpy with her breasts pointing left and right are so revealing. What Alex wore didn’t even come close to
    some of Kelly’s outfits. The brunettes are justing spinning this because it says lingerie. Alex was more covered up than if she was in a bathing suit. I firmly believe Alex and Simon have a loving relationship and I was happy to see they appear to have a great sex life. I would love to have a husband buy me lingerie and use it as a form of foreplay – now that is sexy. Also the thought of Ramona going to all the trouble of putting together that evening for Mario was also sexy – it clearly says I love you to a Man. Sexy starts with the effort and the mind and it was clearly shown here. I believe this is much better than Jill stating in a jewelry store that one gives a bj for jewelry – puke city (but we don’t expect anything better of Jill do we). I have no doubt that Bobby would have loved an Alex/Simon or Ramona/Mario type of evening. With regard to Lumann I am sure she is the type that swings from a chandlier into a basket chair for her little Frenchman (let’s also recall her swapping spit with that scuzzy guy last season – yuck), but tries to come across as a little sweet thing, running through the fields towards her lover in a Hallmark moment. Cindy – I think she is sexless – I cannot imagine her enjoying sex or love or laughter or any kind of levity. When they showed her with her ex and the twins – I wanted to slap away all her control issues while the Dad was playing with the babies. JMHO on all the brunettes nonsense.

    • Adgirl says:

      While I fast forwarded through those unpleasant scenes I think Kelly, Cindy & LouAss were really idiots for making fun of two long term married couples.
      Jill would love to have a body good enough to flaunt it. I think the main reason she skipped SI was because she didn’t want to wear a bathing suit on tv. We didn;t want to see that either!

  44. Nancy says:

    Hi Sonjafan,
    I think Cindy has sex but it’s with her brother!

    • vilzvet says:

      I just think it was so ODD that the first line of her blog states she “couldn’t wait” to be back with him after the trip! Who talks like that about their brother?!?

      • Nancy says:

        That’s my point you dumb drag queen!

        (please dear God I hope you remember Bethenny saying that)

  45. Melissa says:

    Love the idea of Cat on RHNY, I also would love to see Laura (remember anyone?), the cool red-head mom who was on Project Runway some yrs ago, I read about her a little while ago and I think she resides in NY. But an elegant sophisticated professional w/4 kids I believe, along with sassy Cat would be two very cool and great additions to the otherwise very boring and moronic group of women jmo.

    • Adgirl says:

      i want Paulina Porizkova-Ocasek who judged on America;s Top Model for 2 seasons. She is still super tiny and in shape. A much more famous model than Kelly ever was. She would really rile up the brunettes.

      • Melissa says:

        I just googled her, she’s a beauty and I agree, a much better fit for the show if they want to take it the classier RHBH way. Perfect, Cat can replace Luann, Laura replace Jill, and Paulina replace Kelly, That would be up to BH standards or may be even better! I must say. I also googled Laura and her name is Laura Bennett and she has 6kids!

    • MAMAZ says:

      Laura does live in NYC and she would be a GREAT addition to Housewives! She’s talented, smart, accomplished, refined and doesn’t take any crap.

    • arabracer says:

      Yes, I remember Laura !!! I wonder if she was able to come up with her own line?? She is more like an Alex-type.

      • Melissa says:

        I don’t know either but I think about her from time to time, she was a very cool and interesting lady.
        I actually remember Laura as being very assertive and kind of the queen bee of the pack, not as meek and soft like Alex, though I like Alex too.

    • sue says:

      Agreed, we would love to see cat on RHNY, then we would LOVE to watch it. I/we think Cat would put most of the “REALNESS” back in the reality of RONY, but I’m sorry, Jill Zaring,LuAnn and Kelly must go.
      We have been watching these shows since they started, and although we did not expect any of the ladies to stay exactly the same, we did not expect them to turn into A list celeb as they think themselves to be.
      Look at Bethenny, she was and is always herself, she may add more of herself to storylines to keep us there, but she doesnt do fake, and the housewives show that has the most fake cast is NY and that is why they should replace them all or just get rid of the three that are really bringing the show down, and that is mainly JILL,LUann and Kelly, and I’m not just saying that because they are my least favs, I’m saying it because, if you read the mags,blogs etc, they are the ones who stand out, and not in a good way, its because they “stage everything”

      • Melissa says:

        ITA, They think they’re all A-listers now when in fact they’re at the level not so different from the Jersey Shore kids. I’m tired of watching these no talent money/fame hungry people who act like they’re high class and all the while constantly trying to sell us some crapola they slapped together. It would be nice to watch people with class for a change.

  46. Melissa says:

    If I may add, the brunettes are all a drag and should be kicked off the show, pronto.

  47. WindyCityWondering says:

    What has always bothered me about RHNY is that NYC is hugh and Bravo gives us these nitwits?
    There has to be intelligent, witty, fashionable, married with or without children women who would do the city justice!

  48. VAgirl says:

    Hey Nancy, are you there?

    • Nancy says:

      Of course I’m here like every other Sat night. My God how my life is so boring.
      I am “on call” though. Lets hope for no trauma tonight in San Fran. 🙂

      • VAgirl says:

        Did you see this in the news? This young man has ruined his future over doing something so stupid! What was he thinking?

        http://www.examiner.com/technology-in-national/facebook-and-social-media-expose-star-canadian-athlete-as-vancouver-rioter

        And yeah, me too about being here on Sat night. I lead such an exciting life. Lol.

        • Nancy says:

          VAgirl,
          It’s so strange for me to understand this. I was sick to see what happened after the Stanley Cup in Vancouver. Their Olympics were such a success. Well he just kissed his life away. Can you imagine what his parents are thinking. There is a law in Canada (coming from the Queen of England) that states
          if someone is caught rioting the punishment is LIFE IN PRISON! I’m sure the hockey players are heart broken that all this happened.
          Thanks for posting it. Have a good (but boring) Sat night. 🙂 Things could be worst, eh?

          • VAgirl says:

            I’m not complaining. Things could be much worse.

            • Nancy says:

              VAgirl,
              I spoke too soon. I’ve just been informed that my husband (George) is “dying”.
              I swear to God I’m going to make sure that happens. He has a COUGH. Nothing more.
              He’s “hurt” that I wasn’t aware of his impending death. I am now PRAYING my
              beeper goes off!

              • VAgirl says:

                Men are such babies. My hubby got a really bad ankle sprain a couple of weeks ago and it’s been slow to heal, but really, I have to hear about it several times a day. I have to look at it to see if it looks as swollen as yesterday, etc. etc. etc. You would think he broke his leg in three places and had major surgery on it. He keeps saying he needs to stay off of it, and then goes and does yard work all day. I have no sypmathy for him.

            • sue says:

              Hello guys,
              its almost 11:00 pm here in PA. and a few of us are on the porch where we just got off speaker phone with Jens bro and his “very informative” friend who used to be employed by some dept of Bravo which we are not allowed to share!
              Along with us basically making him take a blood oath that the info he supplied earlier today was legit, he also added that the way we are all “getting upset”, and all of us “crazy people” are commenting on these blogs and call in shows and such, he claims this is exactly what “bravo” and shows like it really want, its just that Andy and a lot of his staff are really pushing it and that although Andy acts as though he likes or dislikes any of them hes not sure, he said Andy is “contractually obligated” to like all of them (I know it sounds bad what this guy is saying, but he is really nice and really informative.lol)

              Look, after our conversation with him tonight, I truly dont think I am going to watch NY anymore, I mean, I/we truly believe what he is telling us is true, it just really makes sense. Especially with Kelly and the whole “lost footage/cutting room floor scenes, and how Andy never called her out, even when she said Bravo “forced her to go”, which all this time we did not believe, but it looks as though its probably true. I can go on watching all the other ones just for the “what did they come up with now”factor, but I cannot watch RHONY anymore. We feel as though LUAnn,Jill, Kelly and all the rest of them are laughing at us, the viewers and we here CANT STAND LUMAN,JILLEAOUS,KRAZELLY OR SIMPY and we will not add to ratings to keep them on….As for the picture of “our informants” and now “our heros” we will send them as soon or as soon as he figures out how he can do it so he can assure his new job isnt jeopardized……By the way, he said he has known about lynns blog for awhile, but believe it or not he never checked it out until tonight and he said it wasnt as “looney” as alot of them he has read!

              • Nancy says:

                No one is going to convince me that Kelly Bensimon isn’t crazy or Jill Zarin is not a %$^#ing B(%#@!

              • FLG says:

                Let’s not forget that these “stars” get endorsement deals and some produce “products”…books, skidmarkware, beverages, jewelry, etc. We can certainly support those whose behaviors we feel deserve it and not support those whose behaviors we don’t, by simply not buying their products. We can punish/reward by thoughtfully not endorsing/endorsing them with our hard earned dollars. They become “stars” and become “falling stars” through us, their fans. Jillz’s bedding line is already on clearance at BB&B. Do you think BB&B is going to give her another shot? She blames failure of the Kodak deal on Ramona. I don’t. I blame it on her own bad behavior. Kodak didn’t want someone who came out looking so badly at the end of last season as a representative of their company. I wouldn’t have wanted Jill representing dog food. That wasn’t Ramona’s fault. Jill did it to herself. She believes her own hype. We don’t. I see greed when I think of Jill. I don’t care how many charities she supports or doesn’t. She takes her cut first and foremost. Jillzy certainly doesn’t open her “books” up to public scrutiny. We’re supposed to blindly trust her altruistic motives. I don’t. That boat sailed off into the sunset a long time ago for me. JMHO

  49. VAgirl says:

    OMG I’m watching the local news and they have rescued over 300 dogs from a puppy mill in NC and brought a lot of them here to the SPCA in Norfolk, VA. Looks like lots of pekinese types. They said this puppy mill was selling some of these dogs for $1,000. Lots of sick dogs. People, please know where you are getting your puppies. If at all possible please get them from your local shelter or from a rescue organization. I got one of mine from a high kill shelter and he is the sweetest thing ever. The other one I got from a family with little kids who didn’t know how to care for a puppy. He had a jolly roger candy stuck in his fur.

    • Nancy says:

      VAgirl,
      This happens all the time. Cezar Millan did a show on his “Dog Whisper” about this. Other people have made their life’s mission to end Puppy Mill’s. I got my little Pug at a Pug Rescue. She was on deaths door. My next dog will be from the SPCA. I can’t believe that dogs are sold in pet stores anymore.
      We all know they come from puppy Mill’s.

      I feel your pain re: your husbands ankle. Trust me I’ve been there. Everything is an emergency.
      I wish they lived in our bodies for a month.

    • lillybee says:

      Both my doggies are rescued. One is a rescued greyhound.

      • Nancy says:

        lillybee,
        What is the other one? I have always loved Greyhounds. They are so delicate.
        Do they get along?

    • codystl says:

      I just started fostering dogs in my home in St. Louis and about half of the dogs in this particular rescue come from puppy mills. Currently, I have a 4 yr. old min. pinscher who was a mama in a mill and she is scared of humans. Its sad that these dogs do not get any human interaction in the bad mills.

      The other half of the dogs in my foster organization come from family surrenders or from the pound. I currently have a full blooded min. schnauzer who is just beautiful. She’s had some basic obedience, potty-trained, loving, etc. A lovely pet just waiting for a new family!

      I find it very frustrating that people won’t do a litttle research and get a wonderful pet from a rescue or pound. Unless you are planning to show a dog, give an existing dog a loving home!

      • Nancy says:

        codystl,
        What a gift you are. I would foster dogs but I can’t because I have 2 feral cats.
        I do volunteer at our SPCA when I have time. It breaks my heart though.
        Did you see the program that was on last year called “The Last Chance Highway”?

      • VAgirl says:

        I love, love, love miniature schnauzers. They make the best pets. I inherited one that was 15 years old from my aunt and had him for a little over a year before he died I still miss my Bo.

    • Kerry Okie says:

      I knew I was hanging with the right crowd here. We rescue golden retrievers; all three of our dogs are rescues. We had four but last week we had to put the oldest one down. It was the day before Quincy lost her mare. I hate people who run puppy mills more than Jill Zarin, and that’s a lot.

      • Nancy says:

        KO,
        I’m sorry to hear you lost a loved one as well.
        They just don’t live long enough. Our little one is 17 yrs old now
        so I know the ending is near. It’s good that your other dogs have company.
        If I got ahold of the “people” that run these miss I WOULD GIVE THEM THE SAME TREATMENT.
        And feel good about it.

  50. I’m feeling a little nostalgic. This is the article that brought me here. Comments starting at around 182 send folks to one of Lynn’s old blogs 🙂

    It just never gets old …. “Real NYC Housewife Jill Zarin Caught Reviewing Her Own Book On Amazon”

    http://www.realitytea.com/tag/allyson-paige-shapiro/

    • Nancy says:

      Lets forward this to Jill.

    • cabbie413 says:

      lol love it – i remember this and i just tweeted it! i hope more ppl tweet it and it resurfaces for more mainstream fodder

    • Adgirl says:

      I can’t even bear to read that again! What a fool she is, Really. I can’t believe how much time this woman devotes to promoting herslf. Very strange,

      All of the comments above about husbands on death’s door due to hangnails just crack me up.

      • Nancy says:

        Adgirl,
        I’m glad you are laughing as I put him on a flight directly towards your house.
        Let me know when I can pick him up!

        • Adgirl says:

          Hey, no fair! I alreay have a patient, errr, husband to attend to. LOL. My husband has a lovely toenail issue he kindly shares in deep detail with me. It must be love that keeps me from clobbering him with a skillet whenever he has the need to discuss his footies.

          • Nancy says:

            Adgirl,
            A toenail problem can hurt where as a COUGH is just a cough.
            I have an idea…let’s switch! My husband is the best doctor I’ve ever worked with but thats where it ends.
            He’s completely useless in all other areas.
            So how about it? You game?

            • Nancy says:

              Adgirl,
              I just went into the ICU (aka our bedroom) and told George of our plan.
              He responded with “Hallefrigginlujah!!”
              Too funny.

              • Adgirl says:

                LOL. Let’s not swap. Let’s you & I just go on vaca and let the guys take care of each other.

                • Nancy says:

                  Sounds like a plan but I think they would starve to death (as long as their current “illness” doesn’t get them first.) and have the lights turn off because they didn’t pay the bill. Where would we go? 🙂

    • Nancy says:

      housewifeaddict,
      This shows how crazy Jill really is. She literally went “Postal” just because of a bad review.
      Just the thought of someone not seeing her in the light that she dictates threw her into a free fall.
      When their stupid show finally ends Jill is going to have a mental breakdown. Why Bobby hasn’t gotten this “woman” some help by now kills me. That is his job as a husband IMHO.

  51. Hey Lynn – I have a new photo for your writeups. Check out DSCF3709 on this page. Ewwwwww.

    http://www.hamptonscene.com/webready_zarin7407/page9.htm

  52. Okay – bored on a Saturday night and I stumble across Jill’s father posting a positive review about Zarin Fabrics – like we’re supposed to believe he was shopping there and just “happened” to meet his son in law LOL. The apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree LOL.

    “It has everything you can think of and then some.I met the owner, Bobby Zarin who was friendly and very helpful. That’s the reason they have the great reputation they enjoy. They do things the old fashion way, you, the customer come’s first.
    posted by Sol J. Kamen on May 11th 2005 at 7:01am ”

    http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/lower-east-side/harry-zarin-co-001811

    • Holy cow it gets better. After someone wrote a bad review about samples and postage, there was this one:

      “I also ordered samples from Zarin. I didn’t mind the price for shipping because I know what a pain it is to cut and send sample. I am in a similar business and lose money doing it. I can only imagine how many swatches they cut and probably very few turn into orders. In any case…when the swatches were not marked properly..they couldn’t have been nicer. They even scanned in the swatches and emailed me the information. I saved over $800 so it was worth the trouble. David, the man I spoke to, said they have improved thier sampling process and even credited me the money for the swatches against my order. I didn’t expect that when I am saving so much money off the listed price everywhere else. I would DEFINITELY order again. Just compare thier prices to anyone else..you will see too. Good Luck!
      Show More
      posted by Reid Wexler on February 19th 2006 at 7:43pm ”

      Wexler – hmmmmm – .

      THIS IS TOO FUNNY!

      • And then this one. You can’t make this stuff up….

        “Zarn is great. I am in the middle of redecorating my room and Zarin is doing everything. I custom orderd apink tufted headboard, a pink carpet and i got all of my furniture from them. Best quality and low prices. i highly rercomend Zarin to everyone.

        p.s i found zarin in Zagat as the #1 upholstery store….check them out!
        posted by ally shapiro on May 23rd 2006 at 5:27pm ”

        HER OWN DAUGHTER.

        • Nancy says:

          Ally,
          We’ve seen your room and it’s blue and white, not pink, but good try.
          Does your mom pay you for lying?

        • Golden Girl says:

          OMG housewifeaddict those finds are hilarious!

        • Debbie says:

          I love this one too:
          “Bobby Zarin has something do with the success of this firm? If so, quite remarkable for an airhead who could not even master his courses at the University of Miami in the late 60’s…a real lightweight!”
          posted by UM Alumnus

  53. VAgirl says:

    Apparently this writing your own great reviews is not a new thing with the Zarins. Unbelievable.

    • I guess they never thought they’d be well known enough that people would put it all together.

      • cabbie413 says:

        clearly they forgot about the internet lol

      • Adgirl says:

        They probably have their eulogies prepared too.

      • Nancy says:

        Keep it up Zarin’s. I haven’t had this much fun that has lasted over a year
        on a daily basis in my entire life.
        I owe you my first born because of this. You have connected me with people all over the USA and Canada.
        Thank-you from the bottom of my heart.
        N

    • MichellefromNY says:

      This one is classic:
      Bobby Zarin has something do with the success of this firm? If so, quite remarkable for an airhead who could not even master his courses at the University of Miami in the late 60’s…a real lightweight!
      posted by UM Alumnus on December 11th 2006 at 1:22pm

      I totally LOLed…I guess that’s why he married jill cuz he’s too stupid to see past her smile into her scheming lies? LOL!!

  54. Nice photo of Ramoner dancing up a storm from July 4 2007 at Jill’s party. Life must have been simpler then – trying out for the show 🙂

    http://www.hamptonscene.com/webready_zarin7407/ppages/ppage385.htm

  55. Adgirl says:

    Sue, about your earlier posts about information by a Bravi insider …

    1. Earpieces and PR people dictating responses on the reunions. I will stop watching for sure. I never liked the reunions anyway.

    2. Bravo loves how upset and crazy we react? Again, maybe I should stop commenting on LouAss, Jill & Kelly. I feel like I am enabling them. I should quit NY until the cast changes.

    I’m not surprised about any of this. I feel like I only watch out of habit so I can follow this blog.

    I absolutely refuse to follow on twitter , facebook or signup for newletters of people I despise. They don;t care why I am following the, They care their number are up.

    • Of course Bravo likes it that we’re emotionally attached to their shows – it keeps us watching. If we really want someone off the show, then not ever mentioning them will probably help. No one could be as oblivious as LuAnn on how she’s behaved in the last few episodes, so it has to be to ramp up her relevance so she’s asked back next year. Same with Alex finding her voice. We know from Lisa Hartwell that the producers tell them to bring the drama or leave the show. It’s the way it is now. But no one made Kelly act crazy, or made Jill leave the reviews on Amazon.

      • sue says:

        Again, I agree, but that is why I think that if Bravo or any other “reality” show is feeding them on what to say or do, then it should not be allowed to be labeled reality. For instance, I have watched a lot of movies, TV shows and such that have made me mad, sad,happy etc., but its not like I wanted to wake up and slap the actor portraying the character, I wanted to slap the character. When its a supposed “reality” show, that word reality means this is how it is, this is how this person is, and that is not the case anymore with these “reality” shows or their cast (or should I say characters). I also believe Kelly and Jill are the two that cant distinguish fantasy from reality and I do believe they are a danger to others as well as themselves, and after hearing all these stories tonight (when we were on my porch lol) Not only would I love to view Bravo exposing Jill, Luann and Kelly for all the crappy things they have done over the years on the show, my “reality” part of my brain if you will also is a little afraid of what Kelly and Jill are capable of and I feel concerned for their kids and family members when they are behind the scenes.

        • Debbie says:

          I wonder too what these Housewive’s are Really Like off camera.Regardless of how scripted these shows are or how much editing is done the fact remains that they continue their bad behaviors, almost daily, using the press, social media, talk shows. I believe the shows are edited to make the most of bad behavior and we rarely seem to see positive relationships explored on HW’s shows. On theses shows good is bad. Sue, I would like to know if your Bravo Mole gave you any more insight into Kelly or Jill’s behavior while filming. Are they truly that nuts and nasty?

    • sue says:

      I agree. Its sad, we have been watching Housewives since it started, and though we loved watching in the beginning because we loved Bethenny and especially the friendship w/Jill and B, the NY women are truly nasty and I just feel that if they are going to stoop to really trying to hurt each other behind the scenes just to keep themselves in front of the cameras, that is going to far. These shows were initially interesting because we thought this is/was their daily lives but, Jill Zarin and a few others take it too far.
      Look, I’m sure most of us here would admit that when the series began Jill was likable, and I truly believe that the fame and the cameras turned her into a vicious person. I am sure Jill wasnt all peaches and cream anyway, and I believe she always did that type of thing she does w/writing her own reviews and wanting to be center of attention, but not to the degree she has like in the past few years. As for Kelly, I do believe she is and always has been a “closet mental case”, but because all of her life and because she was not that well known, she could get away w/popping in and out of parties and such and people thinking she is just a free spirit, when in fact I truly believe (as do many) that she needs serious help and to let her remain on this show something awful is going to happen. After hearing all this info we were privy to today, and although I loved hearing alot of it, It made me a little peeved at Andy and Bravo,because they know it and choose not to let them go because like it or not the ones like us keep commenting on them (good or bad) but either way Bravo gets the ratings. I really is sad. Excuse my writing, I had a few cocktails!

  56. VAgirl says:

    Well, I must say good night. I’m singing a solo in church tomorrow and must get my beauty sleep. LOL

    • Nancy says:

      VAgirl,
      Oh that brings back memories. I used to play my cello (in church) every Sunday.
      What are you singing?

      • VAgirl says:

        I’m singing “He Touched Me.” I randomly picked that song and when I told my mom what I am singing, she said Oh, that was one of your Dad’s most favorite songs. Isn’t that ironic that I’m singing that on Father’s day? Don’t know if you know the song, but it’s a southern gospel song I believe written by Bill and Gloria Gaither. It’s been around for years and years.

        • Nancy says:

          VAgirl,
          What a sweet story. I’ll look up the song. It doesn’t matter how many years ago a parent leaves us, Mother’s Day & Fathers Day are hard. My dad died in 1996 and I still find myself walking to the phone to call him. I’m sure your father will be hearing you sing tomorrow. 🙂

  57. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Good morning~Happy Papa’s Day to all who are here & one’s who have passed like mine & hubby’s.
    We have 4 furry children who think are their parents too..

  58. butterisafruit says:

    Good Morning BaaBee, a wonderful day to you too.

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      Thank you Butterisafruit~how are you this morning? Where are you? We are in Kentucky & we have gotten so much rain & more expected today.

      • butterisafruit says:

        I’m near Boston. Our weather is perfect. It’s a rare day for sure. We’ve had a lot of rain and humidity. But today is lovely. Low dewpoint and clear skies.

        • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

          You are very lucky~weather channel just put up tornado watch for us & it’s black outside right now so I will be back after the storms. 🙂

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      lol she quotes Bethenny – mo money, mo problems! Sadly, you can’t blame your lawyer/advisors when you elect to make a risky business decision. John Morgan can wait forever to finalize the divorce, meanwhile Sonja is left swinging in the breeze.

    • Caitlin says:

      I feel for her. I was left swinging in the wind for five years between separation and settlement – just because he could get away with it. You never think you are going to survive that kind of thing, and the resulting anxiety creeps into every aspect of your existence, clouding what otherwise might be better judgement. In retrospect, this knowledge makes some of her earlier behavior far more understandable, if not totally defensible. She needs to buckle her seat belt, get a spiritual life, and trust only a handful of tried and true friends.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMO – Jacques will hang around until there are no more opportunities to hawk his wine on tv. His relationship with LuAnn sure didn’t make her any nicer – in fact she is now the condesendess of mean!.

      • Well – according to Sue’s inside source – that’s all calculated meanness to get her more air time on housewives- and it’s working. Deep sigh. At least Kelly has the common sense to TRY to appear less crazy this year.

        • MAMAZ says:

          We all know this isn’t a “reality show” anymore. Yes the women bring the drama. But I think that’s also an excuse for them to say some things they really mean. It’s what they tell their families and friends to try and justify the way they behave.

          But I think the camera is like a magnifying glass. We are seeing a bigger version of who these women really are.

          For some of the Housewives the cameras bring out the best in them: Bethenny and Ramona for example. While Ramona still says some truly awful things,( telling a grieving Sonja that SHE married for love), she has also softened. And is much quicker to recognize and apologize for the hurt she causes. Because Ramona has a good heart.

          For most of the women it brings out the worst.JZ and NeNe are the best examples. I loved NeNe on S1! I thought she was funny and sassy. I would have liked to be her friend. Not any more. Like JZ she takes herself and her new found fame way too seriously.

          I Believe LuAnn is looking for more camera time. Lord knows she needs the paycheck. But IMO she getting it by being MORE herself. LuAnn is haughty, condescending and dismissive. She now gets to be a ramped up version of herself and explain it away to Jaques and her children by saying, “I’m just acting dahling”.

  59. Mmboley says:

    How is it that LuAnn think herself above it all? She is one of six kids form a middle class upbringing. A catalog model, a nurse for one second and a domestic whore because she married for money and now thinks she is royalty? Please. Me thinks she forgets her roots.

  60. Katiecoo says:

    Luann is emerging as a close second to the most hideous Housewife of All Time, second to JZ of course. She’s a haughty bullying nasty insecure mean girl! Go Alex!!!

  61. Leslie says:

    i have to say i used to be a big fan of Bethenny’s. Not anymore. She was in Vancouver, June 18, promoting Skinnygirl. My mom was in Holt Renfrew and spotted her trying on shoes. She at first didn’t want to go up and bother her for a picture, but my dad coaxed her into it. She timidly went up and asked if she was Bethenny Frankel and got “Yeah” in a snarky tone. She then went to ask if she could have a picture because her daughter (me) was a huge fan of her show. She got back along the terms “not right now, I’m trying to catch my flight out of Vancouver, maybe you can get a picture when I’m leaving the store.” so my mom left humiliated and embarassed that she even asked her for a picture. She was standing in the mirror while telling my mom this posing with her shoes she was trying on. She was stilling contemplating her choices for a good while after the trying to catch her flight comment. The people at Holt Renfew couldn’t believe she didn’t give my mom a picture. They have many celebrities and such that come into the store when filming or performing in Vancouver and gladly give people pictures and autographs. Needless to say, she did miss her flight because she took too long deciding on shoes to buy that were on sale, and ended up back at the hotel she was staying at and crashed some grad party and posted pics of her and people at the event. I thought she was all about her fans. I understand they need their privacy and such as any other person does, but all my mom wanted was a quick picture and was rudely shot down. I know she just came from the event at the liquor store around the corner, but my mom was not aware she was even in town until she spotted her there. I was a big fan of her, thought she was great, loved her fans etc. but after embarassing my mom like that not anymore. We were in Beverly Hills at Villa Blanca having lunch on vacation, and spotted Lisa Vanderpump having lunch with her husband. My brother took his phone out and wanted to sneak a shot of her. She noticed and immediately came over and called her hubby to come over as well. We apologized and said we didn’t want to bother her lunch, and she couldn’t be happier to give us a picture, she insisted on taking one and wanted her husband to come over too. I couldn’t believe how nice she was! Complete opposite of Bethenny.

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